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Topic: T.U.C Tango Ultimate Coin
Message: Posted by: Sammy J. (Jul 5, 2009 12:14PM)
I just watched the video trailer for this. It is on the banner ad at the top of this forum, Trick coin trickery. Anyone know anything about this? The ad says it's coming soon. Although the demo moves along quite rapidly, it looks like you can do some good stuff with this.

Sammy
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jul 5, 2009 08:03PM)
Hello Sammy,

T.U.C will be available in one week (July 10). It's the result of several years working with gaffed coins. T.U.C allows you make all the effects that the video shows and many more.


I'm sure that TUC will the next classic gaffed coin that everybody will have in his pockets.

Bye.
Message: Posted by: AaronishMagic (Jul 14, 2009 05:54AM)
Any updates in this?
Message: Posted by: Sammy J. (Jul 14, 2009 07:34AM)
I see that it is now for sale on the Tango website in Spanish, but when I switch the language to english, it is no longer there.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jul 14, 2009 09:50AM)
Dear Sammy,

We'll have the product ready to send from this Friday 16 July.

Bye
Message: Posted by: allen_m (Jul 15, 2009 08:40AM)
[quote]
On 2009-07-14 10:50, Mr. Tango wrote:
Dear Sammy,

We'll have the product ready to send from this Friday 16 July.

Bye
[/quote]
Isn't Friday the 17th of July?
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jul 15, 2009 02:37PM)
Sorry, Friday 17 July is correct. So, next Friday.
Message: Posted by: jconstantine (Jul 24, 2009 05:04PM)
Any way we can know what kind of gaff it is? Is it a nest of S***ls is it magnetic like triple threat and or 3cm? Is a slippery sam involved??? Ya know what kind of gaff is it? I can do the effect in the video with the gaffs I alread own. Most of them can be done with just 4 coins and a S***L or 3 coins and a slippery sam. So what are we getting with the T.U.C coin set is what I want to know.
Message: Posted by: Sammy J. (Jul 24, 2009 10:28PM)
Good question jconstantine. A lot of us have multiple coin gaffs and would like to make an intelligent decision as to whether this is right for us. Mr. Tango, can you let us know what this is (even if by PM), or is it one of those "sell the secret" items?
Thanks,
Sammy
Message: Posted by: Sam Weiss (Jul 26, 2009 10:22PM)
The video won't work for me... anywheres else I can see it?
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jul 30, 2009 11:40AM)
T.U.C is available, you can ask to your favorite dealer now.
The set include the gaffed coin and a instructional DVD in English, Español, French and Japanese.
There are different coin versions:
Half dollar
One Dollar
50 euro cent
2 euros
2 pounds
100 mexican pesos
T.U.C is the coin of the future. It's a revolution.
Message: Posted by: ToHan (Jul 31, 2009 04:43AM)
Here is a video for Tango Ultimate Coin
http://www.tannens.com/shop/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=7757
Message: Posted by: mwmagic (Jul 31, 2009 02:12PM)
Video runs sweetly for me. So is this a split coin or what? It's not clear what you are buying here. Good choice of coin options though. I will watch out for the first review, before I even consider this one.
Message: Posted by: Rizzo (Jul 31, 2009 02:25PM)
Wow, , looks like unlimited potential and video looks good but would like to know what is included.
Message: Posted by: allen_m (Jul 31, 2009 04:27PM)
My suspicion is that this gaff only duplicates one or more gaffs already in my arsenal. I would love to be convinced that this is both [i]new[/i] as well as [i]revolutionary[/i]; however, someone other than me will need to be the first to purchase and review...
Message: Posted by: TC Ryder (Aug 2, 2009 03:15PM)
Has anyone got one of these yet? I would be curious on how you like it. I am tempted to get one just to play with it.

TC
Message: Posted by: pabloinus (Aug 4, 2009 05:02PM)
I am just back from Argentina where I went to visit my family. I took the opportunity to stop by Mr Tango place and bought several coins, some from Argentina and also a T.U.C., actually I got the TUC yesterday so I played very little on the plane with it.
I am a hobbist not a skilled magician like many of you, so I will need some days to feel confidence with the TUC and be able to report something meaningful to you guys.
I will try to post a brief review by Friday.

Pablo
Message: Posted by: daveboldt (Aug 5, 2009 12:03PM)
Just saw the video at MagicWarehouse.com. Wondering if Tango's Ultimate Coin is similar to Super Triple Coin by Wong? hmmm...
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 5, 2009 05:41PM)
Dear Dave,

T.U.C is different that Super Triple coin. The coin is available in the US magic stores. I prefer that a costumer give his opinion.

Bye
Message: Posted by: Lawrence O (Aug 6, 2009 07:44AM)
This is a true performer's prop: as a strolling performer, I simply love it. If I could regularly use tables, I'd be mad over hill with it.
You can do miracles with T.U.C. and the variety of possibilities substantially exceeds today's often seen routines which are possible with some more usual gaffs.

For any creative mind, T.U.C. is a bless and we will be able to fool a lot of magicians with it for quite a while.

Great work Marcelo. Congratulations and gratitude.
Message: Posted by: daveboldt (Aug 6, 2009 08:10AM)
Mr. Tango. You have me interested. I have enjoyed your Make The Difference and Euro-Dollar Copper and Silver sets. Actually, my first Tango bought coins. Both very well made. No problems at all. How about a special discount on T.U.C.? - Boy, bet you didn't see that coming. :) Dave davidboldt@verizon.net Dallas, Texas
Message: Posted by: allen_m (Aug 6, 2009 08:44AM)
Lawrence,

I will assess your post as an [i]endorsement[/i]; still, if anyone in the know could post a review... Inquiring minds want to know!

-A
Message: Posted by: pabloinus (Aug 6, 2009 03:51PM)
I just put a review of the T.U.C. under the Good, the Bad and the Garbage, tricks and effects, I hope it'll be usefull for some of you

Pablo
Message: Posted by: allen_m (Aug 6, 2009 07:09PM)
Read the review...

It certainly does [i]seem[/i] to be something new, and perhaps, worth a look...

Thanks Pablo!
Message: Posted by: TC Ryder (Aug 6, 2009 09:16PM)
I will have to get one of these. Will order one next week.
Will let you all know what I think

TC
Message: Posted by: Rainboguy (Aug 9, 2009 10:55AM)
Mr. Tango:

I have just returned from Abbott's 71st Get-Together, where I purchased a set of your Tango Flying Coins.

I'm very impressed with your work, sir, and look forward to adding this routine to my repertoire.

Best regards and thank you for your hard work!
Message: Posted by: Rizzo (Aug 9, 2009 02:22PM)
Rainboguy, a review please as far as your likes/dislikes quality etc? Thanks!
Message: Posted by: Rainboguy (Aug 9, 2009 07:57PM)
Rizzo:

I haven't had time to work through the routine, yet, but the quality of the gaff, the DVD instructions, and the premise (3 fly with a gaffed coin)seem great.

This is a very good value, in my opinion.
Message: Posted by: Rizzo (Aug 10, 2009 04:33PM)
Pablo and Rainboguy, thanks for the feedback on this.
Message: Posted by: dsalley13 (Aug 14, 2009 02:43PM)
Another TANGO T.U.C review:

I received my TANGO T.U.C. this week. I wanted to work with it for a few days before reviewing it here.

This T.U.C. coin/gaff is marvelous! I didn't really know what to expect on this one. The ads and movie that Mr. Tango has been teasing us all with had me guessing what kind of gaff it was. Well, it's like nothing I could have imagined. It works differently than any other gaffed coin I have. I have flippers, gravity-flippers, sh##ls (of every possible kind), slippery sh##ls, etc.. It's nothing like any of those. In fact, for me it replaces all of those other gaffs.

This is the work of true and very devious genius! (more on that later). Mr. Tango has come up with a coin/gaff that works impossibly well. The only other coin/gaff I have that is as smooth and easy to operate is a Slippery-Sam. The T.U.C. is far better because you can lay the coin/gaff down on the table and no one would ever know how it works unless you let them pick it up and play with it (so don't do that!).

I asked Mr. Tango how he came up with this idea.....he responded by saying "It came to me in a dream, seriously it did!."

You could tell that he was laughing, even in the e-mail. What I wouldn't give to have dreams like this!

What a good dream that must have been!!! One has to wonder what stimulated his mind to have this dream? I hope he has many more, in fact I am sending him my chili-sauce recipe to have as a late night munchy and see if we can keep his dream state so well stimulated. I suggested duct-taping half-dollars and silver dollars all over his body before bed, too. Mrs. Tango is still considering if she can allow him doing this. :o)

I can't go into details about the workings of this gaff. You'll have to buy one and then sit drooling on the floor as you mumble "Why didn't I think of this?"

The DVD that comes with each complete T.U.C. kit is wonderfully thought out (in 4 languages). It was produced at Bar-Magico in Buenos Aries, Argentina. This is Mr. Tango's private cocktail lounge and Magic theater. The music on the DVD is a nice change from the clamor of most modern Magic DVDs. Mr. Tango takes the time to fully immerse you in all things regarding his T.U.C. This is one of the first DVDs I have ever fully appreciated. I don't feel like I need a book, like I wish I had to go along with most other DVD/video Magic presentations. After you have watched this a few times, you can feel confident that you have something you can actually work with in this coin/gaff. The DVD is just the beginning, as you realize the full potential of this coin/gaff has had it's surface just barely scratched. There are so many things you can find to do with a T.U.C. It's already got me thinking in ways I couldn't before I had it.

Suffice it to say that with your sleeves rolled up and your hands otherwise empty, in a very simple move (way simple!) you suddenly have 2 coins in your fingers, where there was only one before. Now before you ask, no, it's nothing like a split-coin/clone-coin, etc. It is the most unique coin-gaff I have ever seen. Making those two coins back into one coin is just as fast and simple of an operation. No fumbling, stumbling or complicated hand and finger moves. No sleights at all. As a teaser, all I can say is that if you can put a coin in your hand and hold it in 2 fingers (thumb and index fingers), you can make some seriously mind-damaging Magic with the TANGO T.U.C.

I recommend this highly to Magicians of all capabilities. From rank amateur (which I am just a couple steps above) to the most skilled coin manipulator there is, all will enjoy using a TANGO T.U.C. You'll love the looks on the faces of all the specs. you fry too Especially if they are magicians.

This coin-gaff is literally coming from dreamland! Buy one! I bet you will buy more once you take the first leap of faith by adding one to your coin/gaff arsenal.

I want this coin/gaff in silver dollar (Ike) next and then a silver/copper version in half-dollar.I've never used silver-dollars for anything, because my hands are too small to do any sleights with them. This T.U.C changes everything for me.

I feel confident that I can now use some silver dollar routines that I have never attempted before. This coin/gaff and your already existing routines are fully compatible. I think you'll find that like what has happened to me, this coin/gaff replaces all the others you might use for a variety of classical coin magic.

Thank you Mr. Tango!


dsalley13

PS: This coin-gaff is adjustable for your personal touch. Mr. Tango forgot to put that in the DVD or the written instructions (this will be remedied very soon!) Just give Mr. Tango an e-mail at:

insua@tangomagic.com

He'll be glad to tell you about the adjustment if you can't figure it out on your own. If that doesn't work for you, you can tell me here and I will PM you the explanation for adjusting it.

Thanks for reading this. This is something I just couldn't keep to myself, unlike many of the other Magic devices I buy and regret. No regrets here, this is unique and will make my Magic better. It may do the same for your Magic too.
Message: Posted by: Sammy J. (Aug 14, 2009 04:21PM)
Thanks for the review, dsalley13. Sounds very exciting. Without revealing too much, can you tell me the difference between the half dollar and the copper silver edition? Are the effects different? Then there's the Ike. I assume it would work the same as the half.
Thanks,
Sammy
Message: Posted by: dsalley13 (Aug 14, 2009 04:46PM)
PM'd you

dsalley13
Message: Posted by: DP the Great (Aug 18, 2009 12:40PM)
Before that review I was skeptical. I might have to check this out now. Thanks again
Message: Posted by: dsalley13 (Aug 19, 2009 01:57PM)
I just put a little tip in "Secret Sessions" that you will find very helpful in using the TANGO T.U.C. coin/gaff, especially if you keep your coins brightly polished. Here's the link:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=326868&forum=37&0

I am having so much fun using this coin/gaff. I hope everybody gets to try it.


dsalley13
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Aug 21, 2009 02:27PM)
I just received my TUC and I lvoe it. I'm already starting to assemble a multiple-illusion routine based on some of the ideas on the video.

One wish- I do wish the demonstrations on the video were a little slower. I'm VERY impressed by how fast and smooth you are with the device, sir, but it makes it hard to try to emulate :)

I also have a question... which I need to ask in a way that I don't reveal anything. So here goes...

My gimmick appears to be mounted a bit off center such that it works *very* well when I squeeze at one side but not well at all when I squeeze at the other. Is this on purpose or do I have a defective unit?

[quote]
On 2009-08-19 14:57, dsalley13 wrote:
I just put a little tip in "Secret Sessions" that you will find very helpful in using the TANGO T.U.C. coin/gaff, especially if you keep your coins brightly polished.
[/quote]

Wondeful suggestion thank you, that will solve the only real handling problem I've been having. I just added my one little suggestion from my own experiments to your thread.
Message: Posted by: dsalley13 (Aug 21, 2009 08:55PM)
I checked mine and it's dead-on in the center. You should ask Mr. Tango for some help.

I don't think what you're describing is how he wants us to have them. Sometimes employees don't do things the way the Boss does. When his small factory produces a few thousand of these, he can't personally check each one and still try to stay on top of all his other projects.

Tell him how yours is working. I am sure he will take care of it. He needs the feedback anyway, so at the next employee meeting he can tell the quality-control guy to shape up or be replaced himself.


dsalley13
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 21, 2009 09:53PM)
Hello Ciberqat,

Thanks for your words about T.U.C
About the magnet position, is the same if it is exactly in the center or not, I'm sending to you a private message where I give you instruction to adjust the coin as your preference.

Bye.
Message: Posted by: dsalley13 (Aug 23, 2009 05:06PM)
Sorry for the wrong advice. I didn't realize that the T.U.C. "adjustment feature" would take into account a not perfectly centered gimmick.


dsalley13
Message: Posted by: DP the Great (Aug 24, 2009 11:55AM)
I just got mine the other day and it is very interesting. Many routines I can use with this even though I am concentrating on the three fly.

My one concern is that it will "wear out" if you know what I mean -DP
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Aug 24, 2009 01:31PM)
[quote]
On 2009-08-23 18:06, dsalley13 wrote:
Sorry for the wrong advice. I didn't realize that the T.U.C. "adjustment feature" would take into account a not perfectly centered gimmick.


dsalley13
[/quote]

No problem. the adjustment worked a treat :)
Message: Posted by: dsalley13 (Aug 24, 2009 02:02PM)
DP,

I sent you a PM. No worries. A rebuild is easy and Mr. Tango has just what you need to do it for a very low price. ($1.00 USD)

dsalley13
Message: Posted by: mwmagic (Aug 31, 2009 04:44AM)
Tango really seems to be in the News lately, with lots of favourable posts about their products. So I had a look at the TUC video in detail. The video runs a bit fast and is not the best quality. The effects look great, but sometimes the dollar coin looks 'thinner' than the rest of the coins. For this reason I have avoided the Split coin/Super coin. For those that own TUC, need I worry about this feature? Is it less preceptable for 3 Fly where coins are 'front on' than say matrix?
Message: Posted by: dsalley13 (Aug 31, 2009 12:13PM)
MW

You can't set a whole "Split-Coin" down on a mat (at normal working distance, seated) unless the spec.'s angle of view is extremely steep. You'd need a very low table and have the specs sitting on normal chairs or standing. Otherwise, they will see the split that goes all the way around.

You can easily do this with a T.U.C. at almost eye-level, no severe angle needed. The secondary part of the T.U.C. is thin. It would have to be to do what it does, but it can be easily worked around by not flashing the edge when it's naked. You can flash it a bit, because it has milled edges, but I would never lay it down next to the Primary part of the gaff or any natural coin unless I was working with a similar steep viewing angle as needed by a "Split-Coin". I move it quickly from the table so the spec.s can't see that the diameter is a bit smaller than normal.

All of these things we have taught ourselves to do since we started using gaffed coins. I try to keep things in motion and that always has solved the problem for me.


dsalley13
Message: Posted by: mwmagic (Aug 31, 2009 01:10PM)
Thanks dsalley, that has helped me understand.
Message: Posted by: dsalley13 (Aug 31, 2009 01:34PM)
I think I might be using the wrong terminology. When I say the edge of the secondary coin is milled all around. I mean it has those notches (a representation of them actually) or little flutes(?) that enable you to grip USA half-dollar coins (quarters, dimes and silver dollar sized too). If someone will please tell me the correct term, that would be great.

Thanks


dsalley13
Message: Posted by: mike storz (Aug 31, 2009 08:22PM)
Hello!

Just because I had some free time on my hands tonight. Lol!

The edge runs around the entire circumference of the coin, and is the portion that has the reeding on it if it's a dime or quarter dollar. The edge is plain on pennies and nickels.

Definition: The reeded edge of a coin is the series of grooved lines that encircle the perimeter of some U.S. coins, such as the dime and quarter.
Examples: The reeded edge was originally added to coins to prevent clipping and counterfeiting.



Hope that helps. :)
Message: Posted by: dsalley13 (Sep 1, 2009 07:24AM)
Reeding! Yes, that's the word I've been looking for. Thank you.

dsalley13
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Sep 1, 2009 11:32AM)
My experience is that the secondary coin looks fine shown to people or on a table top.

What I wouldn't do (which I tried to do in my first attempt at a routine) is hand it to someone. My wife spotted that it felt a bit thin.
Message: Posted by: mike storz (Sep 1, 2009 08:25PM)
[quote]
On 2009-09-01 08:24, dsalley13 wrote:
Reeding! Yes, that's the word I've been looking for. Thank you.

dsalley13
[/quote]

You're welcome! Glad to help. :)
Message: Posted by: mwmagic (Sep 2, 2009 06:21AM)
Cyberqat

"My experience is that the secondary coin looks fine shown to people or on a table top"


Are you referring to the dollar version or penny half dollar version here?
Message: Posted by: dsalley13 (Sep 2, 2009 02:16PM)
[quote]
On 2009-09-02 07:21, mwmagic wrote:
Cyberqat

"My experience is that the secondary coin looks fine shown to people or on a table top"


Are you referring to the dollar version or penny half dollar version here?
[/quote]



The Half-dollar is what I have so far. I don't have an "Ike" version of the T.U.C. yet. That is coming soon. I special-ordered a copper/copper English penny size too. That's going to keep me busy trying to routine the use of the T.U.C. gaff/coins. So many possibilities!

I recently bought a silver-dollar sized Okito box from Epiphany (formerly of RNT2) and I'm dying to try it with a T.U.C. "Ike" in the mix. If it works as easily as the half-dollar version, it will be the first time I will actually use silver-dollar sized coins. My very small hand size has made that impossible so far in my Magical pursuits. It takes 3-1/2 of my fingers to do a finger-palm with a silver dollar. Classic palming is out of the question. The T.U.C. "Ike" may just might make using silver-dollars possible for for me.


dsalley13
Message: Posted by: magicman1 (Sep 9, 2009 04:47PM)
Any other reviews on this?
Thanks

Don
Message: Posted by: Desmond67 (Sep 26, 2009 06:45PM)
I love TUC Ike, this is really and advance in coin magic. I didn't use my expanded shell and my flipper since I have this coin.
Message: Posted by: ian22202 (Sep 30, 2009 10:22AM)
I just got my set a few days ago (dollar version). I am pleased with the set. It is good quality, and a clever gimmick. Moreover the DVD that comes with the set is quite complete in its coverage of the coin and how to use it. Some clever thinking in there. Because the T.U.C. is a somewhat different gaff it will take a bit of practice on my part to become comfortable with it. But, I think it will come quite quickly.

My only complaint is that I now also want a half-dollar set, lol!

Now that I'm thinking about it I think I'd also like to see a set released in the current "gold" dollar format. But from a technical point of view, that might not be an easy task.
Message: Posted by: lithyem (Sep 30, 2009 01:10PM)
I have a Morgan TUC coming - sent Mr Tango the coins myself which he gaffed for me. Excited to see it!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Sep 30, 2009 04:02PM)
Dear Ian,

We could make TUC in gold dollar, but is this coin available for the current use in USA ?
Message: Posted by: Sammy J. (Sep 30, 2009 05:25PM)
I think what Ian is speaking of is the new "gold" colored dollar coin. They are available in the US. You don't see them too often, unless you ask for them at a bank.

As I recall, they are larger than a quarter, but smaller than a half dollar.

Sammy
Message: Posted by: HaraldM (Sep 30, 2009 07:00PM)
Hi there,

I am new to coin trickery as well as to this forum, so I first want to say "hello".
I came here because I was searching for some information about the TUC which I saw on the Internet. For me as a student it is quite expensive, that's why I would like to know before WHAT I really buy.

I have a Scotch and Soda Coinset by Tango and am satisfied so far. But I would like to advance.

I always only read that the TUC is beautiful but I still do not know, WHAT it really is - is it a flipper coin? Or magnetic shell? Can perform serveral tricks directly after a first trick? I mean, the Scotch and Soda trick can only be performed once, than you have to reset it.

Would very appreciate some information on that!

Thank you so much!
Message: Posted by: lithyem (Oct 1, 2009 12:20PM)
Hi Harald - I think you are going to be hard-pressed to get that kind of secret from the Café here. In general it's considered bad form to request the secret of a gaff or an effect. I understand your hesitation but I think the best advice would be to have a look at the video from Mr Tango (on his site) and watch the effects he does with the TUC. If they look like things you'd be interested in performing, it might be a good purchase for you. From what I hear it's a very versatile gimmick.
Hope that helps.
Michael
Message: Posted by: HaraldM (Oct 1, 2009 03:52PM)
Ok, I see. Sorry for asking. Did not know it. Well, I now ordered the 2 EURO version for 80 euros, which is very, very expensive. I hope, it is worth paying that much.
Especially for people like me that do not earn money with it but just do it for fun, it would be very helpful to know a little bit more as I always try to avoid buying the same effect twice or three times.
So, I think it arrives on Monday and then we'll see...
Message: Posted by: professorwhut (Oct 1, 2009 07:57PM)
You will not be disappointed.
Message: Posted by: HaraldM (Oct 5, 2009 12:35PM)
Well, I today received the TUC. Frankly spoken, I am kind of disappointed because

1. the gimmick is way too big -
Well, I think, it is not worth the 80 euros - or do I have a broken one.
Normally I am very satisfied with the quality of the cheaper coins, like copper brass, or scotch soda - but THAT is really disappointing...
Message: Posted by: pabloinus (Oct 5, 2009 12:47PM)
HaraldM, there has to be something wrong with your coin. I have 2 TUCs one on Kennedy and one on C/S, and neither one has a problem

The gimmick is a little large to allow the effect to work. When I show the coin, it looks like a regular coin.

I suggest to contact Mr Tango directly and discuss with him the problems with the coin.

Sorry about your experience, it is a nice gimmick
Pablo
Message: Posted by: jd999 (Oct 5, 2009 01:38PM)
Does anyone know if it is possible to get the half dollar version with a 2001 date on ?

I have contacted a few suppliers and they all seem to be 2009 date on the half dollars. I am in UK but happy to use oversees suppliers.

Thanks
JD
Message: Posted by: pabloinus (Oct 5, 2009 02:00PM)
JD, contact Mr Tango directly here at the Café and ask him about the dates.
Both of my coins are 2009
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Oct 5, 2009 03:15PM)
Hi JD,

We use new coins to make our products. But, if you send me the coins we can make T.U.C with any coin.

Posted: Oct 5, 2009 6:06pm
Dear Harald,

I sent a pm to solve your problem.
Message: Posted by: ian22202 (Oct 5, 2009 05:28PM)
[quote]

We could make TUC in gold dollar, but is this coin available for the current use in USA ?

[/quote]

[quote]
On 2009-09-30 18:25, Sammy J. wrote:
I think what Ian is speaking of is the new "gold" colored dollar coin. They are available in the US. You don't see them too often, unless you ask for them at a bank.

As I recall, they are larger than a quarter, but smaller than a half dollar.

Sammy
[/quote]

Mr. Tango, indeed Sammy is right. The current series of US dollar coins are the "President's series" they are gold in color and about the size of a US quarter. In fact I believe the "President's series" dollar coins are based on the popularity of the quarter dollar "state and territory series". All of that is just detail.

My point is that while I love working with the current TUC, some would be less suspicious of the coins themselves if they were based in current issue coins. Half dollars are currently the largest physical coins in current circulation but, they are pretty uncommon. The next largest are the gold-toned dollars. However, I suspect that they may be too small to adapt to the TUC design.

Just thinking out loud here...
Message: Posted by: sharpace (Oct 5, 2009 06:30PM)
I just received it, I found the gimmick is too thin, spectators will very easy find out the difference.
Message: Posted by: lithyem (Oct 5, 2009 06:42PM)
In my opinion - the gimmick is only too thin if you don't manage it properly. When fully assembled the gaff is a dead ringer for a normal coin - when in use, sure you don't have every angle available but I bet you don't show a spectator the back side of a shell or the edges of a C/S, etc. The gaff is what it is and you use it as creatively as you can. Ever use a slippery sam shell? That's a bit thin too huh? With proper misdirection, timing and routining you could pass off a dinner plate as a Morgan and nobody would suspect it. Just my 2 cents.

Posted: Oct 5, 2009 7:47pm
I just received my custom Morgan TUC today from Mr Tango. I must say I am extremely pleased with the quality of the product. When assembled - you simply cannot tell the gaff from the real coin, the tolerances are that tight. I think this is a fantastic addition an arsenal of gaffed coins - lots of potential and a unique execution. My compliments! -Michael
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Oct 6, 2009 10:36AM)
I will try to make a TUC with gold-toned dollars and let you know.
Message: Posted by: dsalley13 (Oct 6, 2009 12:22PM)
I received my "IKE" dollar T.U.C. last week. This changes everything for me. I can finally do some routines using full sized dollar coins. I can't classic palm a dollar sized coin at all, so I decided to just stick with half dollar sized coins. With the "IKE" T.U.C. I am able to do a few minor sleights and then unleash the T.U.C. on the spec.(s). The results I am getting are wonderful. This is the first time of my being able to use silver dollar sized coins and I am delighted. It works really well in my RNT2 dollar-sized Okito box, No one has any idea at all that the T.U.C. isn't a regular coin. I use it to vanish one coin, every time I fill the Okito box with what I haven't sleighted away. If you have a T.U.C., you will understand what I mean. It works perfectly.

Mr. Tango also sent me a companion gaff for the half-dollar sized T.U.C. coins that I have. He made me a special copper/copper T.U.C. for me and provided this new gaff for it as a "Beta" test. When he releases this new gaff, coin Magic will be changed. It's really that good. I can't say what it is yet. You'll have to wait for Mr. Tango to let this new gaff become available. It makes the T.U.C. even more devastating. It rocks!

I've had the new Tango coin rattle for just over a month now and am using it everyday I perform. It is totally fantastic.

Now we wait for the Tangopedia, Mr. Tango's encyclopedia of gaffed coin Magic. It's going to be wonderful to have all that information in just one place. I've already got my order in for one of them and a few more of his other gaffed coins too. His new Tango made Chinese style coins are wonderful. I am ordering an expanded shell in Chinese style because of the quality of his new Chinese coins.


dsalley13
Message: Posted by: Desmond67 (Oct 9, 2009 05:56PM)
Today I put together my TUC copper and silver, TUC half dollar and TUC penny and for the magnet effect it works as a stack of coins. So, I palmed the 3 TUCs and I made appear three coins first and them I duplicated the coins, totaly I made appear 6 coins. I'm wondering if I would have 8 TUC palm, 4 in every hand, I could make appear 16 coins. Wow, It would be fantastic.
Mr. Tango, could you make a special price for 8 identical TUCs ?
Message: Posted by: Carl Andrews (Oct 11, 2009 09:53AM)
Can split coin routines be done with TUC?
Message: Posted by: Desmond67 (Oct 11, 2009 11:07AM)
I think you can do all the split routines with TUC, because you can duplicate your coin when you want. Better that split because TUC can be show it very clear.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Oct 13, 2009 01:40PM)
Thanks Desmond,

I have just tried with 8 TUC Morgan and I made the best coin production that I could ever imagine. I took 4 in any hand and it happens.

I will send a pm, thanks for the idea.
Message: Posted by: Desmond67 (Oct 18, 2009 10:15AM)
I got 4 Ike TUC to make a multiplying coins and "this is incredible". I can make the explotion or the coin bomber effect and show the coins super clear for his edges.
Somebody say that it's an inteligent coin and I'm thinking that's true, when the 4 coins are together they works like a stack to be palm very easy and when I want they separete really easy.

Thanks once again Tango.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Oct 22, 2009 12:41AM)
[quote]
On 2009-10-18 11:15, Desmond67 wrote:
I got 4 Ike TUC to make a multiplying coins and "this is incredible". I can make the explotion or the coin bomber effect and show the coins super clear for his edges.
Somebody say that it's an inteligent coin and I'm thinking that's true, when the 4 coins are together they works like a stack to be palm very easy and when I want they separete really easy.

Thanks once again Tango.
[/quote]

I'm curious - I have three TUCs and you cannot place one on top of the other because of the magnetic fields repelling each other. E.g., if you lay one down on a table and then try to place another on top the second TUC will at first try to hover about 1/2" over it and then it gets pushed off to the side quickly. You can invert one and they will attract each other, but that can only occur with two - any more and they are pushing each other away, fairly strong.

I can't see palming a stack of these. Won't work here.

Thank you.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Oct 23, 2009 08:31AM)
Hello Jim,

Actually, we discovered that stack option one week ago and for this reason we are trying to make the coins with the same magnet polarity. It's a new thing with TUC I didn't notice about it.
Message: Posted by: HS (Oct 23, 2009 11:30AM)
I have been playing around with the TUC for about 2 weeks now and after a first shock (I thought I received a broken one) it turned out to be a real high quality gimmick.

I always used Mr. Tango's Scotch and Soda and thought that it would be quite better to let the vanished coin re-appear easily and with the TUC this problem is now really solved. I only needed about 5 to 10 minutes to learn the movement, which by the way is very well explained on the fabulous DVD, so that now a lot of tricks are possible - not only those showed in the trailer but many more.

So, I just want to congratulate Mr. Tango to this product and by the way: I have never met someone in the cyberspace before that so much worries about the customers! Very very recommendable!
Message: Posted by: Rory111 (Oct 28, 2009 09:16PM)
Mr. Tango,
My T.U.C. arrived today..1964 Kennedy Half...WOW....I cannot put it down....I cannot say enough about the quality of my coin...Thank you for the most gracious and finest customer service someone could ask for. If you work with gaffed coins, you could certainly benefit from a T.U.C. in your repertoire.

I must also add, as "HS" posted....I just want to congratulate Mr. Tango on this product and I too, have never met someone previously in the cyberspace that demonstrates such world-class customer service! I too, do HIGHLY recommend Mr. Tango to others!
Message: Posted by: dsalley13 (Oct 29, 2009 01:54PM)
I am still stunned by my T.U.C. "Ike". It goes with me everywhere in a little coin purse with 4 stock "Ikes". It's a marvelous coin-gaff. I feel very Magical using it. I can do 4 effects with it now, perfectly, so I am always ready for a little impromptu coin Magic. It works quite well with a pair of Trabucco holdouts too, after a very small adjustment to the hold-outs (something had to be reversed, but you know what that is if you have a Trabucco set).

Thank you Mr. Tango


dsalley13
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Oct 29, 2009 03:31PM)
Thanks, thanks and more thanks for your words.

Doris, great coincidence, I'm trying a new effect with TUC Morgan and the Invisible Hand of Vernet, it's about a signed coin that disappear and appear inside a fruit.

By the way, I will be giving my lecture of TUC in Mexico November 20 at El Toque Mágico de Dino, in Miami in the IBM ring November 24, in Blackpool in February 20 and Madrid February 23,24,25 and 26.

Bye
Message: Posted by: Ruldar (Oct 29, 2009 06:25PM)
This sounds so great, I have to try one. Mr. Tango, do you have Morgan dollar TUC in stock?
Message: Posted by: dsalley13 (Oct 31, 2009 01:36PM)
[quote]
On 2009-10-29 16:31, Mr. Tango wrote:
Thanks, thanks and more thanks for your words.

Doris, great coincidence, I'm trying a new effect with TUC Morgan and the Invisible Hand of Vernet, it's about a signed coin that disappear and appear inside a fruit.

By the way, I will be giving my lecture of TUC in Mexico November 20 at El Toque Mágico de Dino, in Miami in the IBM ring November 24, in Blackpool in February 20 and Madrid February 23,24,25 and 26.

Bye
[/quote]



Mr. Tango,

I use a Trabucco Hold-out for your T.U.C. coins. It's static, in that it doesn't move. All it requires is a shirt, or a vest, or a jacket. It is a devastating hold-out and has no moving parts at all. I can use it/them wearing just a t-shirt for a top.

I am usually always rigged up with a Vernet Invisible-Hand when I perform, but I use it for other things than coins, mostly.

The only place you can get a set of Trabucco hold outs is from Elmwood Magic, USA. They aren't cheap, but what they can do is priceless!

Trabucco Hold Out:

http://www.elmwoodmagic.com/?nd=full&key=2062

PM me if you need more information.

I sure would love to see your lectures. Will you be making your lecture notes available? I would really love to buy a set if you do.



dsalley13
Message: Posted by: Desmond67 (Nov 7, 2009 06:24PM)
I got the Invisible Hand of vernet, it includes an accessory with a magnet. I used this accessory with an Ike TUC and it works perfectly. I can load one TUC and two more coins in this way.
Message: Posted by: Markythewiz (Nov 8, 2009 12:16PM)
Hi all, I am new to the magic Café and hope I have posted this message in the right place! All I would like to know is what is the difference between T.u.c copper/silver and the normal T.u.c coin? I have bought Tango coins before and have always been impressed with the quality, so no questions needed there! I hope someone can help as I don't know which is best to buy. Thanks, Markythewiz.
Message: Posted by: pabloinus (Nov 8, 2009 02:12PM)
The TUC Silver allows from 1 silver coins to end as 2 silver coins, you can do 3 fly, matrix and some other routines where 1 silver become 2 and 2 become 1.

The TUC Copper/Silver, allows from 1 Silver coin to show as 1 Silver and 1 Copper, or 2 silvers (more limited that the above option). The TUC C/S is very useful for transpositions, spellbounds and things like that.

I have both in half dollar size. If you can only buy one, I think the Silver option is the most versatile.

Pablo
Message: Posted by: dsalley13 (Nov 8, 2009 04:00PM)
[quote]
On 2009-11-07 19:24, Desmond67 wrote:
I got the Invisible Hand of vernet, it includes an accessory with a magnet. I used this accessory with an Ike TUC and it works perfectly. I can load one TUC and two more coins in this way.
[/quote]

The Trabuccos will hold at least 4-5 coins each easily (individually accessible) and the set is 2 of these hold-outs, for a total of 8 steel or magnet gaffed coins held out. The Invisible hand makes for a great finisher, as it can empty your hand of the last coin(s) in a routine without your having to travel that hand at all. Just activate the Vernet, make a flourish of turning your hand over while doing it and the coin disappears right in front of a spectator's eyes. Then roll your sleeves up. For a lot of switching in and out, the Trabuccos shine, as that is their job. I keep copper coins on one side of me and silver on the other, ready and waiting in a pair of Trabucco hold-outs. That works good for me. Your needs may differ. There's so many wonderful hold-outs available now. Combine them with TopIts and people start to wonder if you're not in league with Satan after all...... ):o)>


dsalley13
Message: Posted by: Markythewiz (Nov 9, 2009 08:46AM)
Thanks Pablo. That clears things up in my mind. I will take your advice and go for the silver/silver version. Thanks again, all the best, Mark.
Message: Posted by: Mike Heitkamper (Nov 15, 2009 12:24PM)
Mr. Tango, I love my T.U.C. half and I am ordering a TUC Silver/Copper. Are you considering making a Copper TUC with a Silver insert?
Message: Posted by: davidpaul$ (Nov 16, 2009 08:00AM)
Just Received the Eisenhower Dollar Coin.
Very-very nice. It does replace the sh*** as well as the Fl****r coin.
It will take a little practice to get used to, but once you understand
the mechanics it's a dream to work with.

Will probably go for the Kennedy Half and another Ike.
Once you find a good thing it's always a good idea to have a back-up.
Well Done!!
Message: Posted by: mmreed (Nov 16, 2009 07:06PM)
I would like to say that the TUC has been a great seller in our online store and our local location.

Those that have gotten it, have come back with some really great routines with it.

We have yet to see any with a quality issue - Tango is getting much better at making sure you get top notch props.

I whole-heartedly suggest anyone with a love for coins to snag one of these!
Message: Posted by: davidpaul$ (Nov 17, 2009 09:43PM)
[quote]
On 2009-11-16 20:06, mmreed wrote:
I would like to say that the TUC has been a great seller in our online store and our local location.

Those that have gotten it, have come back with some really great routines with it.

We have yet to see any with a quality issue - Tango is getting much better at making sure you get top notch props.

I whole-heartedly suggest anyone with a love for coins to snag one of these!
[/quote]

TUC doesn't appear to be on your website (on-line store)!!
Message: Posted by: ReDeFiNe (Nov 18, 2009 11:53AM)
I have both the Half Dollar & Eisenhower Dollar TUC. I love them both! I added a shim expanded shell to the half dollar TUC. I modified the Shell slightly so that it works like 2 TUC in one. I get 3 coins out of 1 for this and you can toss up the coin as well, kind of like a T/T.
Message: Posted by: mmreed (Nov 18, 2009 08:16PM)
[quote]
On 2009-11-17 22:43, davidpaul$ wrote:
[quote]
On 2009-11-16 20:06, mmreed wrote:
I would like to say that the TUC has been a great seller in our online store and our local location.

Those that have gotten it, have come back with some really great routines with it.

We have yet to see any with a quality issue - Tango is getting much better at making sure you get top notch props.

I whole-heartedly suggest anyone with a love for coins to snag one of these!
[/quote]

TUC doesn't appear to be on your website (on-line store)!!
[/quote]

Ahhh they are back in stock now. They were sold out for a week till we got more in. Both halves and dollars are in stock now.

I find the half dollar to be my favorite - nice weight, size, and feel.
Message: Posted by: Tom G (Nov 24, 2009 09:49AM)
I'll have to say I was hesitant to by a Tango coin due to all the quality issues that were posted a while ago. There haven't been many lately, so I took the plunge for a silver TUC. Gotta say the quality is very good. I am concerned about the issue sharpace mentions, but agree with lithyem about management.
Tom
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Nov 25, 2009 04:34AM)
As someone who hasn't purchased anything in about 10 years, I'm really impressed with the personal involvement of manufacturers like Mr. Tango and even the dealers here on these forums. It used to be that you would buy a mysterious bag and took your chances.
Good to see that customer service has greatly improved. Bravo.
Message: Posted by: goldeneye007 (Nov 27, 2009 04:09AM)
Well I must admit I thought I had an idea about the workings of the TUC and I was a little worried that people may see what was happening or even that if may not work properly and I must say that it's not at all what I thought it was. It's really something new indeed and which works extremely well. I even ordered a second one. :)

Just a few words though concerning people who said that it would replace their flipper or slippery sam... well I kind of agree for the slippery sam but certainly not for the flipper. TUC is great but Tango's flipper is more visual for vanishes like coins through table routines.

Well done in any case!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Nov 29, 2009 10:53AM)
Hello friends,

Here a new important TIP TUC

I coming back of my lectures in Mexico and Miami.
In Miami, I gave my lecture in Fantasio's house and he discovered a new very important tip for TUC.
Fantasio had problems to open the coin, so he added a small square of masking tape in the center of the magnet and the coin opened so much better.
Of course the size of the tape must be smaller that the magnet.
Thank you very much my friend Fantasio, your magic continues making miracles.

Thanks to everybody for your reviews, I will try to give all the lectures as I can next year about TUC so if somebody want to book me please let me know.

Bye.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Nov 30, 2009 06:36PM)
When it doesn't matter to the effect, I have found that placing the Leaf in backwards makes it easier to open quckly, i.e. the Tail slides easier than the Heads and sits a bit higher.
Message: Posted by: magiclee (Nov 30, 2009 09:53PM)
You are right Funsway!

magiclee
Message: Posted by: funsway (Dec 1, 2009 08:18PM)
This afternoon I sent a problem to Mr. Tango and received a useful and comprehensive reply wihtin a half hour. Most impressive. I further clarification request was also answered almost immediately. I can't judge if he is setting a standard for the coin-gaff industry, but he certainly is on the customer service end.
Message: Posted by: goldeneye007 (Dec 2, 2009 06:50AM)
Completely agree to that!

My TUC works perfectly well, but I'll try your tip funsway :)
Message: Posted by: funsway (Dec 2, 2009 11:18AM)
I have also found that when having other coins in the hand the S***l & L**f would sometimes attempt to scuddle together. By using a St**l S**m have for the other coin(s), the slight attraction helps keep the S***l from wandering.
Message: Posted by: Desmond67 (Dec 7, 2009 08:46PM)
I´m thinking to use TUC to perform some mental effect using her instant double side coin chance.
Does anybody do something similar ?
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Dec 8, 2009 05:10AM)
Got mine Thursday. The s***l was slightly convex so It didn't want to release at first
Gentle pressure on the face flattened it out just fine.
Love it!
Message: Posted by: fbnc (Dec 8, 2009 08:32AM)
This new coin gaff has created a lot of intrest. Does this gaff improve/streamline an in the hands coins acrosss,is there a routine included. Sorry if this has been asked before.
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Dec 8, 2009 10:53AM)
There's a nice DVD with it that covers everything performed in the demo.
Wish the translator was a little closer to the microphone but that's OK.
I think you'll be delighted with it.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Dec 8, 2009 04:40PM)
This routine can be done with a T.U.C. or an Expanded Shell or three normal coins. The difference is the naturalness of the movements and sleights, and the angles of view.

http://s563.photobucket.com/albums/ss76/funsway/?action=view¤t=32Tangle.flv
Message: Posted by: Desmond67 (Dec 8, 2009 04:41PM)
The DVD has many routines as 3 fly coin, matrix reverse, coins to glass (in this case you can use the same routine without the glass and make a coin across), coin thru hand, coin thru deck, instant double side coin and more that I don´t remember right now.
Actually, I think that Mr. Tango invented the best gaffed coin after the expanded shell. Maybe better, because I replaced the expanded shell many times by TUC to perform classic routines.
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Dec 8, 2009 04:48PM)
Definitely better. Its the expanded [ on steroids with a twist.
Message: Posted by: fbnc (Dec 9, 2009 08:15AM)
Very nice routine Funsway,you used a TUC in that routine?
Thanks for sharing that video
Message: Posted by: funsway (Dec 9, 2009 10:39AM)
Yes, that and one other coin. You have to be able to open the T.U.C. with the Shell on top -- a problem discussed earlier. I actually flip the single coin in my hand at three points not shown on the Step-Video. The rest of the Sleights are Sway Moves to get the coins across. The routine is available as a PDF, but not listed on eversway.com yet. Not sure what to charge. (Three Two Tangle)

The original effect was developed 10 years ago using three stones or nuts for Medieval event where I likes to use 'found' objects. The T.U.C. makes it possible with Coins. The "invisible shelf" wrinkle is 30 years old.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Dec 9, 2009 10:38PM)
A few comments on my TUCs (3 of them).

They all mostly work well, with a few little glitches:

They can be tough to keep apart, which is what I believe Funsway is talking about a few posts above this one. When in my palm with the [ overlapping slightly, they can suddenly draw together unexpectedly. I don't even try that anymore. Too easy to give it all away like that.

Secondly, the copper-silver is much more difficult to slide than the others. English pennies have a running bead on the obverse - front - side. Normally that isn't a problem because it also has a flat edge that is higher than the beading. But on the TUC, that edge is removed to make everything fit OK, and thus the beading is trying to slide directly against the ['s edge. Makes it more of a stutter slide as it "catches" all along the beading. NOT a defect, mind you; just the way English pennies are made and what was needed to be done to make it work in the TUC. This is only an issue when the copper side's down. Sorry if this is not easy to comprehend but this is a public forum and I don't want to say it any clearer.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Desmond67 (Dec 9, 2009 11:35PM)
I have the TUC copper and silver. Is true that the half dollar and Ike versions works better, but I applied the adjusted procedure and the coin works well.

Yesterday I got the rosin powder that Mr. Tango advise to use and it's incredible, I put just a little of this powder in my thumb and my TUC opened alone.
Message: Posted by: dsalley13 (Dec 10, 2009 10:03AM)
One of my T.U.C. gaff/coins is copper/copper, i.e.: it's all copper (English Pennies). It is the easiest working of my half-dollar sized T.U.C.s. However and hands down, the T.U.C. Ike that I have is the easiest to work with of them all. It truly does almost open itself. This brought about a great thing for me. I can now finally use dollar sized coins for effects with my very small hands and I don't have to palm anything.

As to the rosin powder, I think I was the first to suggest it's use. I've found a new application device for it.

I got one of those tiny sampler bottles of natural tears when I last went to my eye doctor for an exam. I emptied it out and before I tossed the then empty bottle, inspiration struck. I washed out the little bottle, it's nozzle, and cap and let them all dry overnight. I then filled it with powdered violin rosin and replaced the nozzle. It didn't flow very well, so I used an Exacto knife to slice the nozzle's tip off a bit, thus enlarging the delivery hole. Now it's perfect and easy to keep in a pocket or even some coin cases. Just a tiny tap on the inverted bottom of the bottle delivers a small amount of rosin to my waiting finger tips. Close the bottle with it's cap and put it away when you're done. Try it and see if you like it. The little plastic bottles I am referring to are about 1-1/2 inch tall with the cap on. All Optometrists give them out as free samples. Free is good!


dsalley13

PS: Don't forget to scratch off or tape-over the natural tears bottle label and re-label it (I put skulls and crossbones on mine). It could be disaster to have someone grab your bottle of powdered rosin and dump some in their eyes!!!!
Message: Posted by: Sammy J. (Dec 13, 2009 06:16PM)
A bid off topic but...Great minds think alike dsalley!
I use one of those bottles for lighter fluid so I can refill my fire wallet. I also mark it with skull and crossbones!

Sammy
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Dec 14, 2009 12:31AM)
[quote]
On 2009-12-10 11:03, dsalley13 wrote:

As to the rosin powder, I think I was the first to suggest it's use. I've found a new application device for it.
[/quote]

Mr. Tango mentions it right on the DVD.

The natural tears trick sounds interesting.

Thank you.

Jim
Message: Posted by: dsalley13 (Dec 14, 2009 12:36PM)
[quote]
On 2009-12-13 19:16, Sammy J. wrote:
A bid off topic but...Great minds think alike dsalley!
I use one of those bottles for lighter fluid so I can refill my fire wallet. I also mark it with skull and crossbones!

Sammy
[/quote]


[b]:o)[/b]


dsalley13
Message: Posted by: Desmond67 (Dec 16, 2009 09:20PM)
Yes Salley, you was the first to suggest to use the rosin. Thanks.
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Dec 17, 2009 09:15AM)
I dissolved some powdered rosin in alcohol and applied it to the edges with a Q-Tip. Seems to work pretty well.
Message: Posted by: dsalley13 (Dec 17, 2009 06:50PM)
That sounds like an OK way to help you classic palm a coin, but the idea here is to get some powdered rosin on the tips of your thumb and first two fingers of the hand you work your T.U.C. with (in my case, both hands). This gives you a superb grip as you rotate one coin out of the other with no hesitation of fumbling.

For a real easy way to rosin a coin's rim, just buy the cheapest violin rosin you can find ($1.50 to $2.00 on eBay) as a solid little brick or puck shape. Then you just drag the coins rim across the block of rosin as you rotate the coin. No muss, no fuss. No alcohol needed. This works well for milled-edged coins or smooth.


dsalley13
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Dec 17, 2009 07:18PM)
Ah, I see. My rosin might be too crumbly for that. Maybe try some bass rosin.
Thanks.
Message: Posted by: Flyswatter (Dec 18, 2009 11:01PM)
Just ordered a Kennedy half TUC for myself for a very nice discount price, I can't wait to test it out!!
Message: Posted by: dsalley13 (Dec 28, 2009 11:31AM)
Mr. Tango,

Has the orientation of the magnetic poles been standardized for T.U.C. sets yet? If you could would you give me a compass reading of the "Head" side of the main T.U.C. part? I'd like to compare that reading to the T.U.C. sets I have now. I want to be able to stack 2-3 sets (half-dollar/Brit. Penny size) and put them in a Babel coin dropper.

Just take a cheap toy compass and see if it points South or North on your now standardized (I hope!) T.U.C. Just hold the compass close to the head side of the gaff part. That will tell you the orientation instantly. If any of mine are different, I'll turn the gaff)s) over and re-glue it/them.

Please let us all know. There has been some talk of doing this, but I haven't heard any results from you yet.

Thanks in advance,


dsalley13
Message: Posted by: Scott F. Guinn (Dec 28, 2009 03:03PM)
Can't remember my early school science classes well, but wouldn't the fact that Tango is south of the equator have a "bearing" on his compass results?

Got my TUC a while back and I am very pleased with the value, quality, and versatility of this item. It really does replace / substitute a number of coin gaffs, making it much easier to do a wide variety of routines with just the one gimmick. This coin definitely opens new windows of opportunity for creativity and performance.

Well done, Mr. Tango! Thanks!
Message: Posted by: MillsJW (Dec 28, 2009 03:15PM)
[quote]
On 2009-12-28 16:03, Scott F. Guinn wrote:
Can't remember my early school science classes well, but wouldn't the fact that Tango is south of the equator have a "bearing" on his compass results?
[/quote]

Only if it is not near a coin. The coin will influence the "pointer" of the compass. Same for anyone else- anywhere in the world. Move the coin away and the compass will point back north. Slight skew in different areas - but north.

Posted: Dec 28, 2009 4:16pm
Thanks to all on this thread. I ordered my "half dollar" TUC coin yesterday.

Great ideas - great comments.
Message: Posted by: MikeTheKid (Dec 31, 2009 03:53PM)
After a long review lol ..I have decieded to get one...does any one know any website where I can purchase with discount?

Thanks

kid
Message: Posted by: Flyswatter (Jan 3, 2010 01:21PM)
[quote]
On 2009-12-31 16:53, MikeTheKid wrote:
After a long review lol ..I have decieded to get one...does any one know any website where I can purchase with discount?

Thanks

kid
[/quote]

I got mine from PenguinMagic with a 10% discount. And I love my TUC, although I have never performed it live with anyone yet, this is my first and only gaffed coin, and I'm still practicing/playing around with it.
Message: Posted by: MikeTheKid (Jan 4, 2010 11:13AM)
Thank you Flyswatter

I have ordered my from penguin last week, they have it on sale :D

cant wait to see mine ~
Message: Posted by: Flyswatter (Jan 6, 2010 12:34PM)
[quote]
On 2010-01-04 12:13, MikeTheKid wrote:
Thank you Flyswatter

I have ordered my from penguin last week, they have it on sale :D

cant wait to see mine ~
[/quote]

Awesome, let us know how you like it :]
Message: Posted by: mwmagic (Jan 6, 2010 01:16PM)
Five pages of 'TUC' posts; any video clips of performances apart from Tango?
Message: Posted by: Rizzo (Jan 6, 2010 02:18PM)
I get more use out of STC than this but....thats just me.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jan 6, 2010 03:11PM)
[quote]
On 2010-01-06 14:16, mwmagic wrote:
Five pages of 'TUC' posts; any video clips of performances apart from Tango?
[/quote]

I have four new eBooks on effects using the T.U.C. -- all in the hands of Mr.Tango to insure continuity. I have some poor videos, but not of the quality to support sales, and am shooting still photos now. I use the T.U.C. in many ways not covered by Tango. Not necessarily better, just different. PM me about what you are looking for.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jan 6, 2010 05:46PM)
Hello friends,

I'm really surprised and very happy for this post.
Funsway, sent me 4 ebooks, o maybe one more I should check my mail today.
All this ebooks are very well with theory and effect with TUC.
I'm planing to print a book with all the effects that people is sending me, of course if I obtain the permissions.
Besides, we'll be introducing a new DVD this year called "TUC Miracles" with new routines.

I will be giving my TUC lecture in Blackpool Magic Convention next February and I'm thinking to give lectures in USA this year.

Thank you very much for your reviews.
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Jan 6, 2010 06:25PM)
Sounds great Mr. Tango.
Ken has a very inventive mind and is a great storyteller. I think we will always be searching for new things to do with T.U.C.
Looking forward to it.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jan 7, 2010 07:32PM)
Here is a little preview -freeby. Say you want the T.U.C. under the edge of your coat or vest for a Steal and Switch-in at some point. You don't need a fancy drop loader or clamp. If you Pinch one side of the T.U.C. it is a Clamp! Tie a bit of thread with a knot at the end to a pin and place under your coat. Open the "mouth" of the T.U.C. and place over the knot and clamp shut. It will hang happily there until you claim it later. Just a little pressure from your wrist and it falls into your hand. Of course you could always use a magnet, but it won't quick release.
Message: Posted by: ebinary (Jan 7, 2010 08:11PM)
Mr Tango,

Is the m****t supposed to be centered in the coin? Mine just arrived and its a little off center, making the opening work differently depending on the orientation of the coin. Is this a defect?

Strangely, I can open it easily with my left hand, but not easily with my right (and I'm right handed). I don't know if its related.

Thanks,
Eric
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Jan 7, 2010 08:23PM)
Yes, That happened with mine too.
Perhaps a round piece instead of square would improve it.

Place the s***l face up on a table and press down SLIGHTLY on the center.
Should work perfectly after that.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Jan 8, 2010 03:13AM)
I have three TUCs. Two were just fine - well, one needed a little of the recommended adjustment. The third, however, a half dollar TUC, was extremely loose. If I held the [ portion by the edges the other part hung down on one side or the other; about a full 1/8" to 3/16". Way too sloppy to work with. What I do is the opposite of the adjustment recommended when the TUC is too tight: I hold the [ portion only with the tips of my fingers of both hands - coin face pointing away from me - and then press hard in the center of the inside with my thumbs. That usually makes it a lot better though it doesn't last too long. I have to repeat that every two or three uses. Every one is going to be different I guess. I just hope it doesn't reduce the life of the TUC.

Thank you.

Jim
Message: Posted by: ebinary (Jan 8, 2010 11:21AM)
[quote]
On 2010-01-08 04:13, J-Mac wrote:
I have three TUCs. Two were just fine - well, one needed a little of the recommended adjustment. The third, however, a half dollar TUC, was extremely loose. If I held the [ portion by the edges the other part hung down on one side or the other; about a full 1/8" to 3/16". Way too sloppy to work with. What I do is the opposite of the adjustment recommended when the TUC is too tight: I hold the [ portion only with the tips of my fingers of both hands - coin face pointing away from me - and then press hard in the center of the inside with my thumbs. That usually makes it a lot better though it doesn't last too long. I have to repeat that every two or three uses. Every one is going to be different I guess. I just hope it doesn't reduce the life of the TUC.

Thank you.

Jim
[/quote]

Are all your m****ts right in the center of the ] ? mine is off by an easily visible amount, and I am trying to figure out if that is normal.

Thanks, Eric
Message: Posted by: Flyswatter (Jan 8, 2010 12:27PM)
Mine is perfectly at the center, however I don't know how would you define "loose". How easily should the two parts be spun? Mine works well, but I wonder if it's the right amount of tension.
Message: Posted by: konjurer (Jan 8, 2010 03:55PM)
Mine is not perfectly centered either. The adjustment procedure worked fairly well. However if my thumb is close to Kennedy's forehead there is a 50% chance that the coin will not open. I'm learning to work with it but it does worry me a bit. I'm trying to do some tightly timed appearances from one hand to the next (ala a 3 Fly routine) and when it doesn't open it pretty much kills the moment. Aside from this flaw, it's a wonderful coin.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Jan 8, 2010 04:27PM)
[quote]
On 2010-01-08 12:21, ebinary wrote:
Are all your m****ts right in the center of the ] ? mine is off by an easily visible amount, and I am trying to figure out if that is normal.

Thanks, Eric
[/quote]

Pretty much centered. It's off a little but not enough to matter IMO.

Jim

[quote]
On 2010-01-08 13:27, Flyswatter wrote:
Mine is perfectly at the center, however I don't know how would you define "loose". How easily should the two parts be spun? Mine works well, but I wonder if it's the right amount of tension.
[/quote]

I defined it in my post above - take another look at it.

Does yours hang open as much as I reported above?

Jim
Message: Posted by: Flyswatter (Jan 8, 2010 06:00PM)
[quote]
On 2010-01-08 17:28, J-Mac wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-01-08 13:27, Flyswatter wrote:
Mine is perfectly at the center, however I don't know how would you define "loose". How easily should the two parts be spun? Mine works well, but I wonder if it's the right amount of tension.
[/quote]

I defined it in my post above - take another look at it.

Does yours hang open as much as I reported above?

Jim
[/quote]

No, only when I press on it it opens like that. I guess mine's pretty good.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jan 9, 2010 04:49AM)
There are two ways to adjust a T.U.C.
One is the traditional adjusted that we included in the pack, making pression on the Kennedy face.
The other one is the way that my friend Fantasio discovered few days ago. He put a little square mask tape in the center of the magnet, it makes that the magnet loss force and the coin opened incredible easy.
Message: Posted by: ebinary (Jan 9, 2010 11:55PM)
[quote]
On 2010-01-09 05:49, Mr. Tango wrote:
There are two ways to adjust a T.U.C.
One is the traditional adjusted that we included in the pack, making pression on the Kennedy face.
The other one is the way that my friend Fantasio discovered few days ago. He put a little square mask tape in the center of the magnet, it makes that the magnet loss force and the coin opened incredible easy.
[/quote]

Although I can probably make it work, its frustrating to pay this much for one coin and not have the gimmick centered so that it works identically in all situations. In my case, it is 5.5mm from one edge and 7.0mm from the other. 1.5mm is like the length of a football field in a metal working shop, so its kind of baffling.

Is this the type of thing you normally offer to replace, or am I stuck with this one?

Thanks, Eric
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jan 10, 2010 05:42AM)
Mr. Tango is very accomodating, and will want to know
of this 'quality contol issue'

He is traveling right now, so be patient for a response.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jan 10, 2010 06:51AM)
Dear Eric,

Yes, we change your coin if you want.
But, believe me, the magnet not in the center is not a problem. Try with the adjust procedures and your TUC will work very well. Another, tip is that the TUC needs to be used a couple of days to work very well.

If not, send a PM and we'll change your coin.
Message: Posted by: ebinary (Jan 11, 2010 06:45AM)
[quote]
On 2010-01-10 07:51, Mr. Tango wrote:
Dear Eric,

Yes, we change your coin if you want.
But, believe me, the magnet not in the center is not a problem. Try with the adjust procedures and your TUC will work very well. Another, tip is that the TUC needs to be used a couple of days to work very well.

If not, send a PM and we'll change your coin.
[/quote]

Thanks Mr. Tango,

I will play with it for a few more days and decide if it is worth retuning. It opens pretty well with the "masking-tape" trick, but it still doesn't seem right now to open as easily in some orientations. And because the magnet is the only thing that is not place symetrically, I tend to blame the magnet placement.

Eric
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jan 11, 2010 07:37AM)
Ok, let me know.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jan 11, 2010 08:20AM)
I just learned something critical for me -- the Leaves of the C/S and standrad sets are individually fitted and not interchangeable. I am not completely sure about extra Leaves for the same set.

Of course, this only matters if you have devious intension ...

like using two T.U.C. in the same effect
Message: Posted by: ebinary (Jan 11, 2010 11:04AM)
[quote]
On 2010-01-11 09:20, funsway wrote:

Of course, this only matters if you have devious intension ...

[/quote]

And who on this board has devious intentions?
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jan 11, 2010 02:11PM)
About why is not possible to use the same leaves for different shells. It happen because the coins haven't the exactly size. If you take 10 new coins and you compare sure you will find 5 or 6 different measures. It's incredible but the diameter of the coins can have 4 or 5 tenth of millimeter of difference.


For this reason to make gimmicked coins is a so hard work. In this case every TUC is finished by hand to get the final product.
Message: Posted by: goldeneye007 (Jan 14, 2010 03:29AM)
[quote]
On 2010-01-11 09:20, funsway wrote:
I just learned something critical for me -- the Leaves of the C/S and standrad sets are individually fitted and not interchangeable. I am not completely sure about extra Leaves for the same set.

Of course, this only matters if you have devious intension ...

like using two T.U.C. in the same effect
[/quote]
:lol: me too :lol:
Message: Posted by: armatoj (Jan 16, 2010 06:39PM)
Another review and related thoughts.

I've had my dollar-size TUC for about four days now. First of all, I echo previous comments about the ingenuity of the gimmick. It's a brilliant idea and as someone who's been in magic for about 30 years and played with lots of gimmicked coins, I think this will become a new standard gimmick in years to come.

For those still deciding, I think this is a worthy purchase and most people will be happy to have it. It's an obvious replacement for flippers and slippery sams. I'm not sure it is a good replacement for ALL s----s, simply because there are times when you want an insert to release by gravity alone. But it's a delight to be able to flip or toss this coin knowing the insert is secure.

I'm still pretty partial to my Wong Super Triple Coin for the easiest/cleanest 3 Fly I know of, but the TUC is much more angle friendly.

I do have a few concerns about the sound of the TUC. It talks a bit on separation and tends to "rattle" when flipped. Not a lot, and I'm sure I can find ways to compensate for it, but it's something to be aware of.

My magnet also is off center, but I'll take Mr. Tango's word for it if he says that should not affect the operation of the TUC. More to my concern is the fact that the magnet is square. There are times when executing the separation that I hit a corner rather than a side, and it hangs up the smooth operation of the move. I know the move is supposed to involve a bit of a rotation, but I have to wonder why not use a circular magnet so there are no corners to ever hit at all? I'm sure this has occurred to you, Mr. Tango and I'm curious what your thoughts are.

There have been some questions previously in the thread about the thickness of the insert. It is somewhat thin, but certainly no more so than a Wong coin, or than a Triple Threat inner coin. Overall, this is a great, great gimmick. When closed it can be shown sooooo cleanly front and back, slowly -- it's a thing of beauty. When the separation works easily for me, it's pure magic. When it gets hung up, I get frustrated, but for the moment I'm chalking it up to learning curve. It's not difficult, but I wouldn't consider this a "self-working" coin by any means. It definitely requires practice.

Mr. Tango -- have you given thought to a three-coin version of the gimmick? It seems like this has Triple Threat-like potential.

Bottom line: despite a couple questions, a couple minor disappointments, and some learning curve still ahead, I love this coin and am planning to buy the half dollar version and the copper silver version. I'm particularly excited to integrate the C/S into my Spellbound routine.

Congratulations on your fine work, Mr. Tango!
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Jan 19, 2010 01:18PM)
Just a thought...

Since we now have a number of TUC owners here at the Café, it would be nice if we can find out if anyone has developed any nice routines using TUCs. Besides the DVD that comes with the coin. Maybe a separate thread in a restricted forum?

I had thought that Mr. Tango was going to come out with some sort of additional material for the TUC, perhaps in the Tangopedia? (BTW, what ever happened with Tangopedia, Mr. Tango?)

Anyway, is anyone else interested in posting unique uses for the TUC?

Thanks!

Jim
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jan 19, 2010 05:27PM)
Actually, I'm doing only one routine of the original DVD in my lectures. I found an incredible chink a chink, because I take the extra coin when I want and to finish the 4 coins makes the reverse travel and them disappear.

Tangopedia won't includes TUC routines, Tangopedia will include about 60 or 70 routines with many gimmicked coins. But I will be introducing a second DVD for TUC called TUC Miracles for mid year. Besides we are working in a book about TUC with FunSway.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Jan 19, 2010 09:27PM)
OK! Both sound good Mr. Tango. Mid-year? Can't wait!

Thank you for the quick reply. :)

Jim

PS - So Tangopedia will indeed be going online? Any time frame for that?
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jan 21, 2010 06:25PM)
The problem of writing a book on Features, Attributes and possible Effects with the TUC is that every day I come up with something new, but Mr. Tango and I will draw a line in the sand and "Essential TUC" will be available in a few months as a written, published book addressing practical and extended uses of the TUC, and a journey through the innovative process. Many of these new effects and ideas may also appear in DVD's and eBooks to follow.
Message: Posted by: wingz (Jan 23, 2010 12:58AM)
Any chance to create a Canadian version of TUC?

May be a Loonie TUC and a Loonie/Toonie of C/S TUC?
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jan 24, 2010 10:20PM)
Yes, we can make Canadian version TUC , I will send a pm.
Message: Posted by: Desmond67 (Feb 3, 2010 08:05AM)
I got a new TUC half dollar yesterday. Actually, I was in the dealer shop and asked a TUC to play and I felt this one better that the oldest. I think this coin softer and the handling is easier.
Mr. Tango, is possible that you improved the quality of this gimmick ? Did you applied some change in the new coins ?
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Feb 4, 2010 10:56PM)
[quote]
On 2010-02-03 09:05, Desmond67 wrote:
I got a new TUC half dollar yesterday. Actually, I was in the dealer shop and asked a TUC to play and I felt this one better that the oldest. I think this coin softer and the handling is easier.
Mr. Tango, is possible that you improved the quality of this gimmick ? Did you applied some change in the new coins ?
[/quote]

Hmm, if so then maybe it's time for me to spring for the Eisenhower Dollar TUC. That's the one I don’t yet have!

Thanks!

Jim
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Feb 5, 2010 11:04AM)
Yes, I think that we improved the TUC coin in the last months, specially half dollar version.
Message: Posted by: RCP (Feb 5, 2010 06:12PM)
Mr. Tango made me a custom Walking Liberty and Walking Liberty/English Penny TUC. Work of art! Quick turnaround. If you need custom coin work the price/value/quality is second to none. Highly recommend!
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Feb 5, 2010 09:39PM)
Sounds like an awesome set RCP. That's one of my favorite coins.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Feb 6, 2010 06:08AM)
I have found that using the Leaf inverted chafes the corners of the Teflon at the corners of the magnet. No Problem -- Mr. Tango will send you another Teflon disk.

Nice to have someone so responsive!
Message: Posted by: Hare (Feb 8, 2010 03:27PM)
I've really been impressed with my recent purchases from Tango. I think they have gone from being a medium-quality maker of machined coins similar to Sasco, to generally being just as good as Johnson. I might add the caveat that you get less English-friendly instructions from Tango, but generally superb customer service and much more personal attention from Mr. Tango and company. Good stuff, and really, for instructional material, I go to books and performers anyways.

I've just ordered my first T.U.C. in half dollar size. If it's as useful and practical a gaffe as it seems it might be, I'm considering contacting Mr. Tango and sending a nice fat stack of earlier, matching date Morgan's off to Argentina for some various custom work.

Kudos to a company who cares and listens to it's customers with a creative ear and one willing to work to improve itself, and not just settle for the quick buck.
Message: Posted by: magicjackson (Feb 10, 2010 03:22PM)
Don't really have the time right now to read through the whole thread, but how difficult is it to use T.U.C.? If there are levels of BEGINNER, INTERMEDIATE, and ADVANCED, I'd say I'm between Beginner and Intermediate, but closer to intermediate...if that helps at all =D
Message: Posted by: pabloinus (Feb 10, 2010 03:28PM)
I am a hobbist and it is easier to use the TUC than a shell if this comparison help you. Or as easy as a slippery sam
Message: Posted by: magicjackson (Feb 10, 2010 03:40PM)
Thanks for the quick response pablonius. I don't know how much longer I will be able to hold off...!
Message: Posted by: Scott F. Guinn (Feb 10, 2010 03:42PM)
Hey magicjackson,

You'll have trouble learning how to use the TUC,
Message: Posted by: magicjackson (Feb 10, 2010 04:49PM)
That's unfortuntate... well at least I can stay focused on what I have.

Any reason as to why?
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Feb 11, 2010 12:18AM)
[quote]
On 2010-02-10 17:49, magicjackson wrote:
That's unfortuntate... well at least I can stay focused on what I have.

Any reason as to why?
[/quote]

Hmm, that's a little confusing to me also. I have a feeling that Scott meant to say that you WON'T have any trouble learning to use a TUC. Scott has previously posted only praise for the TUC. You'll have to wait for Scott to check back, but I am pretty sure that he meant the opposite.

FWIW, I don’t think you'll have any difficulty at all. The operation of the TUC is not a complicated thing; not a knucklebuster at all. It is very simple to work with. Like anything you ever try that is new, you will need to take some time to get used to it. Like maybe about 15 minutes!! A little longer to get completely comfortable performing with it!!

Jim
Message: Posted by: magicjackson (Feb 11, 2010 12:06PM)
Either way, it's good to see that T.U.C. is doing so well. Never wanted to use gaffs but it opens up so many different effects...you can't help but have some.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Feb 12, 2010 05:02AM)
[quote]
On 2010-02-10 16:22, magicjackson wrote:
but how difficult is it to use T.U.C.? If there are levels of BEGINNER, INTERMEDIATE, and ADVANCED
[/quote]

Using the T.U.C. is as easy or as complex as you wish it to be. Some of the effects on the DVD like his four Matrix are almost self-working. The real beauty of theis Coin is that you will be insired to use the basic tools to create more and better effects of your own.

There is a book in the works called "Essential T.U.C." that offers dozens of new effects and alternative uses of this Coin, and new DVDs as well. There is also a plan for another book filled with contributions from Coin Workers around the world. SO, you are not just getting a 'gaff', but tapping into a new source of creative energy.
Message: Posted by: Hare (Feb 13, 2010 08:25PM)
I recieved my first half dollar T.U.C. today, and wanted to pass along my thoughts on this really practical tool for coin workers.

First of all, the idea itself is really wonderful. It is a sort of combination of the most useful sorts of coin gimmickery all rolled into one coin with a perfectly unique delivery system. Nothing is ever really "new", but this coin comes about as close as a person is likely to find.

Here is a list of what I feel are it's strength and weaknesses as a magician's lil' pal.

Strong Points.

1. The number one great feature of this gimmicked coin is that you start off with a single, realistic looking Kennedy half that you can handle very casually, and you end up with the same natural innocence. It is perfectly convincing visually as a regular new half dollar coin.

2. This trick coin combines the handy features of two classes of gimmicked coins into one sly device. You can produce and vanish using multiple coins mechanically, with only middling talent, and you also get the advantages of the marvels of magnet-fication as a side benefit. I happen to use a magnetic holdout, so this adds up to brilliant extra-credit points in my review of this solid gimmick.

This jolly combination opens up the world to the shrewd magician. Possible routines are limited only by one's imagination. It's really a "do all" coin TOOL on the magician's belt. I like the fact I can do holds and passes with this thing without worrying about it unfolding into a bouquet of aluminum screws and washers.

don't you hate when that happens?

3. It's well crafted. No seams on the innocent starting and ending coin. It doesn't have a big assed hook on Kennedy's nose, nor does the eagle skwak 'fake!' at the audience whenever he is viewed.

I appreciate this.

When it does it's 'magic' vanish, it's snug and fast and seems reliable. The "produced" coin is two sided with simulated milled edges. In my opinion, it's crafted to standards that give you very good value for your dollar and gets the job done handsomely.

4. No set up. No clean up. No bang ring nor rang bing. Always ready to go!

5. People ask about "ease of use" for this gimmick. As funsway has indicated, that's going to depend mostly on what you want to do with it. The actual physical "move" to cause an appearance is probably slightly harded than making a coin vanish, which is very nearly automatic, but it really is pretty easy, when compared to say, a convincing pass to make a coin go away.

Like any coin routine, practice will be needed to time the simple move here to make believable magic. A person using a device like this ought to have the respect to take the time to use it properly. It's cool and fun to practice. I dig the physical way the coin is activated or unfurled, or whatever you call-it, and have never seen anything quite like it before.

6. Adjustable to your comfort level. For goodness sakes, that's pretty awesome!

Weaknesses.

All coin gimmicks have some sore points. Here are my observations on T.U.C.

1. Noise. There is some inevitable clicking when you make two coins become one. It's certainly not insurmountable, and I guess it's somewhat covered by the fact you are smacking two coins together, but still it is there.

2. Coin cant be handed out. I didn't expect that it could be when I bought the trick, but was surprised that it nearly is pick-up-able up by an audience member. It's really pretty decieving. It's just a bit funnier feeling than a regular half. It wont unravel or spew poison upon them, but you don't want anyone fiddling with it either, because it easily performs a sort of cartwheeling acrobatic my other half dollars arent wont to attempt.

3. The "second" coin isn't as perfect looking as the initial coin, but it is convincing in practice, with nurling and good relief. You wouldnt want to set it beside a regular half for a long side by side comparison, but then, that isn't it's purpose, either. It's obviously meant for routines that move along, appearing and vanishing as needed. Just mentioning this at all to highlight the coin's limitations fairly.

***

I think the combination of "Casual handling abilty" when not in "active mode", and it's general practical versatility beyond that of other gimmicked coins add up to a home run for Tango Coins. This will probably become a "regular" gimmick used by most everyone as a standard, because of it's general superiority to other gimmicks that it outguns with it's ingenuity.

This is the best thing to come out of Tango Coins, an ingenious idea crafted into a very practical gimmick reasonably priced and well made.

Next up for me are some T.U.C. Morgans!
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Feb 14, 2010 01:32AM)
Bingo, Hare! :)

Now you see why this is such a lengthy thread with most of the posts being praise for the TUC!

Thank you.

Jim
Message: Posted by: funsway (Feb 14, 2010 06:35AM)
Hare observed, "2. Coin cant be handed out."

dozens of pages of the new book "Essential T.U.C." address multiple ways to Switch-In and Switch-Out the TUC. Many routines address handling of the TUC to 'validate' it as a normal coin. Other cover ways to use the 'Attributes' of the gaff in ways never considerd by Mr. Tango (Features being the normal working).

It will be a couple of months before this is published, but I will be happy to field individual questions about expandeduses at gusarimagic@comcast.net

The key is that using the coin fuels innovation --
Message: Posted by: Hare (Feb 14, 2010 11:07AM)
An excellent way to dispose of the T.U.C. at the end of a routine using it is to switch it out with one of the finest completely invisible, perfectly quiet one- handed moves in existance...the old DeManche Change.

A switch like this happens in front of the spectator's nose. He never knows it takes place, he doesn't know it needs to happen.

In my case, I steal a regular half with my left from my handout, while producing the T.U.C. for the final hand with my right. I transfer the T.U.C. to the fingertips of my left, while the regular half is in Regular Finger Palm.

I do the transposition right in front of them as I talk. They can be looking right at it.

After the switch, the T.U.C. can go to the holdout when convenient.

This change happens instantaneously. I suspect it is the move Ponta makes in the first visual change between Morgan and Japanese coin right at the start of his advertisement for Sick. It's one of the most useful switches/changes in all of magic, and I imagine by now it is known by some other, more modern name...but DeManche Change is the name I learned for that slick move back in about '75.

I highly reccomend learning this efficent one handed switch. Everyone working with coins needs something like this in their magical arsenal, and it isn't tremendously difficult to learn.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Feb 20, 2010 04:23PM)
Hello friends,

I'm in Blackpool Congress, I gave my lecture this morning, 100 % about TUC, the people received the lecture very well and they loved TUC.
Now I'm going to Madrid to give 4 lectures and then I will work full for the book "Essential TUC" that Ken Mule is writing.

Thank you very much for your support.

Bye.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Feb 20, 2010 04:59PM)
Good luck over there, Mr. Tango. Oh - and have a good time!

We'll keep you busy as soon as you get back!

Jim
Message: Posted by: funsway (Feb 21, 2010 06:12AM)
[quote]
On 2010-02-14 12:07, Hare wrote:
An excellent way to dispose of the T.U.C. at the end of a routine using it is to switch it out with one of the finest completely invisible, perfectly quiet one- handed moves in existance...the old DeManche Change.
[/quote]

in the book it is called a Shuttle Pass if the new coin is the same as the first, and a Utility Switch if it is different. I'll happy to include your name if you can document that it precedes BoBo.

There are several other methods for a SwitchIn or SwitchOut in the book also including idea for using one effect to provide the proper set up for the next.
Message: Posted by: Hare (Feb 21, 2010 10:55AM)
The Demanche Change precedes the Bobo version in the "The Amateur Magician's Handbook" from 1950. Bobo calls this "The One Handed Switch". Hay's sticks to what Bobo calls the "crotch" thumb position throughout, (which Hays refers to that as a "regular thumb palm", instead of moving it from crotch to a pinch style thumb hold...Bobo adds that extra movement, muddying up the move and making it harder to repeat.

In my opinion, as is usual when comparing Bobo to Hays, the Hay's version is simpler, more perfect, and infinately superior in clearness. TAH only contains a smidgeon of coin hand magic next to CM, but, it's superior photos and unrushed explanations make it a better learning tool with what it chooses to teach.

Bobo is a cover-all encyclopedia...but Hay's teaches what it offers.

For my money, this transposition, whether it's "The Demanche Change" or "The One Handed Switch", is the gem of all one handed instant transpositions between 2 coins. Soundless, safe, instantaneous and invisible in skilled hands. It can be a trick unto itself, or a tool with countless uses and is a must have little series of seamless chicanery.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Feb 21, 2010 03:07PM)
Thanks, Hare -- it is different from the ones I descibe, but certainly would have a use -- if even for variety. I avoid one-hand switches because of arthritic thumbs. I do include Mb's one hand Crimp Change that I con't do either.
Message: Posted by: Van Helmont (Feb 25, 2010 05:05AM)
Wouldn't a Spellbound work?
Message: Posted by: funsway (Feb 25, 2010 06:56AM)
[quote]
On 2010-02-25 06:05, Van Helmont wrote:
Wouldn't a Spellbound work?
[/quote]

In some cases, but many of my Sway Sleights can't get from there. For me, a Spellbound position is an unnatural way of holding a coin -- making me perhaps the only person in the world who doesn't like it. I try to hold my hands and fingers the same way a lay person would when tossed a coin, which is why I also perform 3Fly type effect with my hands at waist height and palms up and fingers empty except for the displayed coins.
Message: Posted by: Salby (Feb 26, 2010 02:39PM)
.
Does the T.U.C. come in Walking Liberty coins?

If so, how much is the cost in US dollars and where to get it??

I understand that the Kennedy 50 cent T.U.C. costs $79.00.

How many coins would be needed if I need to send him the coins??
.
Message: Posted by: MoonBeam (Feb 27, 2010 10:25AM)
Awaiting shipment of a T.U.C. !!!
Message: Posted by: pabloinus (Feb 27, 2010 12:21PM)
Sal, Mr Tango was flying from Spain yesterday, so he just arrived to Buenos Aires, contact him directly and he will be able to help you

pablo
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Feb 27, 2010 10:02PM)
Salby, I don’t believe that he has them in stock, but he does make them on request. I don’t know how many coins must be provided but I would expect two at the least and three at most.

Jim
Message: Posted by: NYVetteGuy (Feb 28, 2010 06:30AM)
Three coins must be provided...a few days ago I inquired about it from Mr. Tango and he responded with the requirement and price for the custom piece...

I am now gonna gather up three matching (soft) Morgans to send to him...
Message: Posted by: Salby (Mar 1, 2010 10:36AM)
Yes...

He did get back to me (He's been busy with touring at the moment).

He will take 3 of my WL's and make a T.U.C.

Such a nice guy :)
Message: Posted by: Lawrence O (Mar 2, 2010 01:00PM)
[quote]
On 2010-02-21 07:12, funsway wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-02-14 12:07, Hare wrote:
An excellent way to dispose of the T.U.C. at the end of a routine using it is to switch it out with one of the finest completely invisible, perfectly quiet one- handed moves in existance...the old DeManche Change.
[/quote]

in the book it is called a Shuttle Pass if the new coin is the same as the first, and a Utility Switch if it is different. I'll happy to include your name if you can document that it precedes BoBo.

There are several other methods for a SwitchIn or SwitchOut in the book also including idea for using one effect to provide the proper set up for the next.
[/quote]

The technique with several or with one single coin appeared in print for the first time in Ponsin, Jean Nicolas: La sorcellerie ancienne et moderne expliquée. 1853 and Librairie Encyclopédique Roret reprint - 1858. Ponsin’s book is the first book, after Scott’s Discovery of Witchcraft with a full section purely on coin effects: it was the first to offer the classic palm, the thumb palm, the click pass and... the Shuttle Pass (p 211 in the first edition or p 154 in the Roret edition)

The names of Stanley Collins and David Roth are however attached for ever to the Shuttle Pass. Stanley Collins substantially predates Bobo on the Utility Switch and he is the one who coined the name Shuttle Pass. David Roth is the one who popularized the versatility of the move with only one coin (using the name created by Stanley Collins for what we now call the Utility Switch) to a point where he engraved his own name into the sleight.

Jay Sankey also has a variant where the coin is seen falling (actually from the same hand finger palm) in the receiving palm and many other magicians have brought subtleties to the Shuttle Pass

Now in Michael Rubinstein's fabulous Encyclopedia of Coin Sleights DVDs, there is a full section on the Shuttle Pass including very interesting and precious fingertip variants of the move which deserve being honored by using them with a creation as revolutionary as Mr Tango's TUC.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 4, 2010 08:39AM)
Hello friend,

Just to put a link where you can see a review of my lecture about TUC in Blackpool
http://www.magicconventionguide.com/2010/blackpool-magicians-convention-mr-tango-star-lecture/

I'm trying to organize a lecture tour in USA, if somebody has interest to have my lecture in your magic club, please let me know.

Bye
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Mar 5, 2010 12:07AM)
Mr. Tango.... A signed coin to pepper?!?! C'mon now, you have to show us that one! BTW, was that with a TUC?

Thanks!

Jim
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 5, 2010 04:28AM)
Yes a signed coin (both sides signed) to a pepper. This is part of my lecture
Message: Posted by: pabloinus (Mar 5, 2010 07:12AM)
Actually the routine been from Argentina should be "Coin to the Morron" or "Moneda al Morron", we call the bell peppers Morron, it is the Spanish name for a type of peeper that in Argentina we extended to almost every squaring rounded shaped pepper

Morron sounds more mysterious I think ...

We need a video of this routine ...
Message: Posted by: mrdane (Mar 8, 2010 02:59AM)
Hello everyone

I've been performing Joshua Jay's Invisible Coins Routine using a Flipper and ]. Recently I have been planning on upgrading my flipper to Tango's Gravity Pro although I wonder if the TUC along with an expanded shell would do the job better.
Any thoughts and help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Guys
Message: Posted by: funsway (Mar 8, 2010 05:47PM)
PM sent
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Mar 9, 2010 03:21AM)
Mr. Tango - sent you a PM yesterday about a problem with two of my TUCs; did you get it? I never heard anything.

Thanks!

Jim
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 9, 2010 02:01PM)
I have news !!!!
T.U.C quarter dollar version will be available from April.

Bye
Message: Posted by: Desmond67 (Mar 9, 2010 09:07PM)
I want my TUC quarter, now I will ask coins to the people to do the matrix. Great!!
Message: Posted by: funsway (Mar 10, 2010 06:29AM)
[quote]
On 2010-03-09 22:07, Desmond67 wrote:
I want my TUC quarter, now I will ask coins to the people to do the matrix. Great!!
[/quote]

I have just released an eBook with three TUC routines called Cherub Wings. One effect is based on a Colombini Matrix using borrowed quarters. I use folded dollar bills that can also be borrowed. It works with Half Dollars or quarters, but the smaller coin allows for some additional Sleights.
Message: Posted by: Desmond67 (Mar 15, 2010 07:37PM)
Where can I take my quarter version ?
Message: Posted by: kollo (Mar 16, 2010 02:40PM)
Hi,
i´ve got two questions about T.U.C:

1. I perform "Coin thru table" with a Flipper Coin (Troy Hooser Version)
Does an Ultimate coin does have an advantage in use to do the routine?

2. I like giving spectators "4 coins" (3 Coins and a shell)in their hands. They
close their hands and open them again: One coin has vanished.
Can I do exactly the same with a T.U.C?

Thank you very much!
Message: Posted by: funsway (Mar 16, 2010 04:42PM)
[quote]
On 2010-03-16 15:40, kollo wrote:
Hi,
i´ve got two questions about T.U.C:

[/quote]

the answer is yes to both, but details are reserved for Secret Sessions. Many would feel you have already said too much for this forum, prefering Sh**l and F**p*r.

With you apparent knowledge it won't take long to get up to 50 posts.
Message: Posted by: kollo (Mar 16, 2010 04:50PM)
SORRY,

I didn´t meant to "say too much"! Thanks, funsway, for answering!
Message: Posted by: Desmond67 (Mar 16, 2010 10:22PM)
Yes, you can do it. I have a clear coins thru table routine with TUC half dollar
Message: Posted by: Alexander Wells (Mar 17, 2010 08:45AM)
Kollo,
I would say that on question 2, a TUC would have a disadvantage over a normal S**** set. However, I guess it would also have an advantage in that same situation. I.e. the spectator could open their hand more quickly without you worrying about something going wrong.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 17, 2010 12:28PM)
I show a coins through table routine in my lectures that finish with the glass going through the table.
Message: Posted by: magicjackson (Mar 25, 2010 11:16AM)
Would anyone suggest getting a dollar size over a half dollar? Right now I use both sizes equally...
Message: Posted by: Calvin Tong (Mar 26, 2010 05:29AM)
I have a similar question. the Ike coin is much larger than the kennedy. As such, any design features present on the edge of the gaff coin may not be noticable in the kennedy gaff. However,......will it be noticable on the Ike Gaff since it is a much larger coin?

For example, this was the issue with the old style flipper coins between the kennedy and ikes, before the invention of the gravity flipper (not that the TUC is anywhere remotely similar to the flipper, but this is just an example).
Message: Posted by: funsway (Mar 26, 2010 06:35AM)
I am holding an IKE TUC and a regular coin in my hand and there is no visual difference. For me the Ike is a little harder to open than the Kennedy because I do so as a DownSplit rather than a FrontSplit action on my open palm -- just practice, I guess. Thus, switching back and forth might be a problem while using just Ikes or Kennedys will not be.

But visibility is not an issue.
Message: Posted by: Calvin Tong (Mar 26, 2010 10:13AM)
Ah....thank you!
Message: Posted by: autfan (Mar 26, 2010 09:52PM)
I just received my t.u.c. I love this coin. I have several different gaffed coins but this one is definitely one of my favorites.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Mar 27, 2010 07:38AM)
[quote]
On 2010-03-26 22:52, autfan wrote:
I just received my t.u.c. I love this coin. I have several different gaffed coins but this one is definitely one of my favorites.
[/quote]

you will love the pending book (Essential T.U.C.)-- more than 40 effects using the TUC in intriguing ways, complete routines and more than 100 defined Sleights, Moves and Subtleties -- with contributions from famous personages.

be patient -- a published book has many 'cooks' involved, but you can get the eBook "Cherub Coins" as an extract of three powerful effects completely different from those on the companion DVD.
Message: Posted by: Davy Davis (Mar 27, 2010 03:23PM)
Also just received my T.U.C. and think the workmanship is great. I've browsed the DVD and the effects are well photographed and the commentary is clear and simple. A very nice product well worth the money. I look forward to both the upcoming book and DVD.
Davy
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 27, 2010 07:05PM)
From April 10th, will be available TUC quarter "the small great revolution". I will include 3 new routines in the DVD with quarter TUC.
Signed coin to the coke
Signed coin to the pepper
Coin thru bill

Next week, I will be uploading the trailer, the cost of this version will be $ 60 and will included the coin, a shimmed card and an another special gimmick
Message: Posted by: funsway (Mar 31, 2010 07:17AM)
I have been surprised at the number of PM queries about this Quarter TUC that indicate the power of using apparently borrowed coins in an effect despite thier smaller size. Now I must get busy and create effects using this new wonder ;-)
Message: Posted by: jbz (Apr 1, 2010 04:52PM)
What is the difficulty level of this effect? It seems quite interesting, but is it complex?
Message: Posted by: feher (Apr 1, 2010 06:31PM)
Theirs not just one routine you can do with this gaff. It's for all levels. Your only limited to your own imagination.
I highly recommend this gaff, and I usually don't use gaffs.
Tim
Message: Posted by: funsway (Apr 2, 2010 06:25AM)
[quote]
On 2010-04-01 17:52, jbz wrote:
What is the difficulty level of this effect? It seems quite interesting, but is it complex?
[/quote]

There are multiple ways to use the 'Features" of this Gaff, in the Book labled FrontSplit, DownSplit, TopSplit,FrontFlip, etc. -- and ways to use its 'Attributes' as a Gimmick. Thus, it can be as simple or complex as you wish to make it -- the key being that the TUC can be handled and shown as a normal coin -- dropped and tossed about and shown on all sides. You can start using it five minutes out of the box -- and innovate new effects for the rest of your life!
Message: Posted by: jbz (Apr 2, 2010 08:16AM)
[quote]
On 2010-04-02 07:25, funsway wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-04-01 17:52, jbz wrote:
What is the difficulty level of this effect? It seems quite interesting, but is it complex?
[/quote]

There are multiple ways to use the 'Features" of this Gaff, in the Book labled FrontSplit, DownSplit, TopSplit,FrontFlip, etc. -- and ways to use its 'Attributes' as a Gimmick. Thus, it can be as simple or complex as you wish to make it -- the key being that the TUC can be handled and shown as a normal coin -- dropped and tossed about and shown on all sides. You can start using it five minutes out of the box -- and innovate new effects for the rest of your life!
[/quote]

Wow... sounds really interesting. I'm going to have to go pick one up!
Message: Posted by: Desmond67 (Apr 2, 2010 01:30PM)
See this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhLUnFWv9C8

I think this is the new TUC quarter.
Message: Posted by: jbz (Apr 2, 2010 03:12PM)
[quote]
On 2010-04-02 14:30, Desmond67 wrote:
See this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhLUnFWv9C8

I think this is the new TUC quarter.
[/quote]

All I can say is WOW! I can't wait to get this. Wonder where this person obtained the video? It's not listed on Mr. Tango's website.
Message: Posted by: Desmond67 (Apr 2, 2010 11:20PM)
First, I saw the video in the pre sale area of Murphys magic, but it hadn't a good quality so I looked for it in youtube and it was there.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Apr 3, 2010 07:20AM)
All of these will be explained in the Book "Essential T.U.C." -- the 'Coin to Can' must use the Quarter TUC, but the other effects can be done with any of the TUC's --
Kennedy Half, Ike Dollar, C/S Half, Euro, or custom coins.

In addition to Mr. Tango's exciting effects, there will be more than 30 additional effects and routines, with detailed descriptions of more than 100 sleights and moves using the TUC. Worth waiting for -- but get your TUC now and master the basic moves.
Message: Posted by: Salby (Apr 3, 2010 08:57AM)
I received my T.U.C. in Walking Liberties (WL)... TRULY INNOVATIVE!!!

(Tango has great communication and keeps you updated with his progress as I sent him 3 of my own WL's to his country (Argentina) to make my own customized T.U.C. to match my other coins-- I received it within 3 weeks... VERY FAST, relatively speaking.)

Yes-- It is like a FL***** and a SH*** Combo, but it is NOT what one may think. Let's put it this way... There is NO maintenance, like fixing rubber bands or anything of the sort. Again...

This is something BRAND NEW and No One has created ANYTHING like this before.

If you don't have this and you are guessing how it's done... I KNOW you'll be wrong.

To tell you the truth, it is much much easier to use than a FL***** and a SH*** (If that is possible). Separating the "Coin(s)" for a T.U.C. is done right in plain view of the spectators because it is such a natural-looking move.

Tango has outdone himself and has moved Coin Magic to a NEW LEVEL!

Like all these reviews are basically saying...

*** GET A T.U.C.-- You won't be sorry!! ***

Posted: Apr 3, 2010 10:06am
Wondering what Gimmicked Coin is used in this Tango Routine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_01PgKPSn2E

Since I am still learning the uses of my newly acquired T.U.C. (Yes-- I take it to bed with me ), I'm not confident of ALL the possibilities I can do with it. Studying the performance of the link to this routine... It may seem possible using the T.U.C. to perform it, but I'm not too sure.

What is Tango using (you can PM me if that would be more appropriate)?

Posted: Apr 3, 2010 10:17am
Look what I found.

Celebration of Mr. Tango's NEW and REVOLUTIONARY Coin Gimmick for the Coin Realm.

It seems EVERYONE is Celebrating of the Birth of a New Legend!

Let us all Get Up and Dance and Praise Him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnQEh4M1ZJE&feature=related
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Apr 3, 2010 02:01PM)
Salby,

The Walking Liberty TUC sounds really nice - I might have to get one of those myself. :)

Thanks!

Jim
Message: Posted by: funsway (Apr 3, 2010 04:06PM)
[quote]
On 2010-04-03 10:06, Salby wrote:
.
Wondering what Gimmicked Coin is used in this Tango Routine:

[/quote]

one TUC and three matching coins

this effect is also explained in "Essential T.U.C." -- be patient
Message: Posted by: bwarren3 (Apr 4, 2010 12:47AM)
I just ordered my TUC in Ike Dollar size, should be here by the end of the week.
It took me awhile to decide between the Ike and the Kennedy Half but I do more Street Magic & Stand up than Restaurant work now adays...
Bill
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Apr 9, 2010 09:47PM)
Next week TUC quarter will be arriving to USA stores thru Murphys Magic Supplies, we are finishing the first 100 units.

The price will be $ 60 and it will includes the coin, the DVD, the special card and an accesories to do the coin to can.

Bye.
Message: Posted by: Desmond67 (Apr 12, 2010 10:05PM)
I want to get a TUC quarter, please Mr. Tango let me know where can I order it. The coin to can that you showed in youtube is incredible. I don't know exactly how you did it, but as I can see is not only with the coin. Isn't true ? I can figure out how you did the coin thru note and the signed coin to the pepper but I have not a clue about the coin to can.
Message: Posted by: bwarren3 (Apr 15, 2010 12:03AM)
My Ike TUC arrived and have been playing with it for hours, very very nice.
I was trying to decide between the Ike and the Half alos but decided to go with the Ike because of the visibility...
Bill
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Apr 15, 2010 01:51PM)
TUC quarter dollar will be in USA next week, Murphys Murphys Supplies will have 100 in stock and they are doing pre sale now.
Message: Posted by: jbz (Apr 17, 2010 09:58AM)
How can we get a TUC Quarter if we're not a dealer? I'm interested in one.
Message: Posted by: Coin Nut (Apr 18, 2010 12:13PM)
Just got to post that I received my TUC in £2 size and I am very happy with it.
It has a different operation than I expected but I am becoming smoother with it with practice.
Message: Posted by: jbz (Apr 18, 2010 01:34PM)
For those of you that have the Ike version, do you feel that it is a good size or too big? I really like Ike coins but I'm worried about the size compared to the Half, Quarter, etc.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Apr 19, 2010 03:50PM)
[quote]
On 2010-04-18 14:34, jbz wrote:
For those of you that have the Ike version, do you feel that it is a good size or too big? I really like Ike coins but I'm worried about the size compared to the Half, Quarter, etc.
[/quote]

I don’t understand what you are asking. Too big? Too big for what? It is the size of a regular US Ike dollar; it is made from a US Ike dollar. Take a regular Ike and perform a few different palms and sleights. If it feels comfortable in your hand then the TUC Ike will too. If not... (Lather, rinse, repeat!)

Really, if you can work with a regular Ike dollar then the TUC Ike will work fine for you, jibz. It can only be too big or small for each individual; no one can tell you how it will fit in your hands.

Jim
Message: Posted by: feher (Apr 19, 2010 04:59PM)
That's what she said.....lol
Message: Posted by: B Hackler (Apr 19, 2010 05:49PM)
That's funny feher.(LOL)
Message: Posted by: Desmond67 (Apr 19, 2010 08:33PM)
About TUC sizes, I use Ike dollar for 3 fly coin and coin across, Half dollar for many flipper coin routines and to do the coins thru table. I'm anxious waiting the quarter size to perform the coin to can and to replace the half dollar one in the matrix effects.
Message: Posted by: bwarren3 (Apr 19, 2010 11:36PM)
JBZ,
I guess the question should be, what coins are you using now with which coins, Ike Dollars or Kennedy Halves?
If you're doing Kennedy Halves now then trying to jump to an Ike????
I would think it all depends on what you're comfortable using right now and what effects you are currently performing?
I personally like the Ike because everybody can see the coins whether doing Street Magic or Stand up...
Bill
Message: Posted by: jbz (Apr 20, 2010 09:36AM)
I use mostly halves, but I really like Ikes. They're not as common, and as you said, are of a good size. I just wanted to see if you guys felt like more sleights were possible with halves due to their size, etc.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Apr 20, 2010 04:59PM)
The size is not the issue for the TUC. Each size works the same way - very smoth, one handed - no spellbound moves required. The issue of size IMHO relates only to visibility: if you are doing a 3fly, you want people to see the coins from a greater distance, but if you are working at a table, half's are sufficient as Desmond67 says. As to angles, whether you are using a sh**l or TUC, the angles are the same so size would not be an issue there either. As for Matrix routines, I would think the smaller the better (the quarter size TUC seems awsome for that), but since I don't perform any matrix routines I will leave that to someone else for comment.

Posted: Apr 20, 2010 6:19pm
I currently have a half and a copper/silver TUC and love both. My next purchase will be for a custom Morgan TUC. I agree with all the other posters who have said that Mr. Tango is extremely easy to work with. I have PM'd him twice and he has been very responsive. I just need to take the time to go to my local old coin dealer to select the coins I want to use.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Apr 20, 2010 07:20PM)
Since the TUC works well in conjunction with other Gaffs, you might get the size for which you already have an EXP S***l, S***t coin, Fl****r, etc. One big advantage of the TUC is being able to handle it as a normal coin. For this reason the Kennedy Half will probably be the most popular version and have the most effects created for it. However, most of the 70+ TUC effects I have reviewed can be performed with any size TUC.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Apr 27, 2010 10:29AM)
Hello friends,

These are my confirmed T.U.C lectures in July:

July 11th, San Diego, Town and Country hotel 10:00 AM (the same hotel as the IBM Convention one day after congress)
July 15th, Knoxville, Tn

I have open dates, so if you have interest, please let me know.
Message: Posted by: Marc Frese (Apr 29, 2010 06:01AM)
Hi,
I need help!

I have the 2 € coin, and I am not happy!

My coin has small dents on the side.
The coin is very loud at the slightest movement.
Also I can not put the coin from one hand to the other.
I would have to deal with the coin as a raw egg.
Always there is the noise!

Does anyone have an idea?

all the best
marc
Message: Posted by: funsway (Apr 29, 2010 10:25AM)
Write/PM Mr. Tango directly
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Apr 29, 2010 12:27PM)
Dear Marc,


It's strange, maybe the coin fall to the floor, anyway I will send a pm to solve your problem.

bye
Message: Posted by: griffindance (Apr 29, 2010 04:44PM)
Hey Marc,

I also have the €2 TUC. I'm really happy with it. I only received it this week but its such a great gaff that I was practicing a normal matrix routine (normal as in without gaffs/gimmicks) when I realised that one of my coins was the TUC.
As for the coin talking. Like any trick we have to practice in order to make it seemless. You will have to get used to when you need to distract the audience but its not really a problem with TUC routines. Most of the time you are showing the audience that you have two or more coins or your are making coins multiple. Coins normally "talk." You can use it.

Like I said Im really happy with my TUC. Im in Germany and our Mr Tango even supplied me with a specificly german version.

Griffin
Message: Posted by: bghost (Apr 29, 2010 10:26PM)
Can anyone compare T.U.C Tango Ultimate Coin and Super Triple Coin by Johnny Wong for me? what is the most different pros and cons between these two? which one is more versatile?
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Apr 29, 2010 10:58PM)
Wong coin is a split coin and a slipery steel shell that you can not show as a regular coin. T.U.C. Is a totaly diferent concept because you can show the coin as a regular coin. By the way if you add a slippery steel shell to a T.U.C you can produce three coins from one
Message: Posted by: funsway (Apr 30, 2010 06:42AM)
I have developed several routines combining the T.U.C. with other Gaffs like an EXP Sh**l. The difference in what Mr. Tango suggests is that the triple combo can also be tossed about like a normal coin. Also, several TUC can be handled as a single coin for St**ls and D**ches.

It is the most versitile of all of the avialable gaffs I have explored.
Message: Posted by: bghost (Apr 30, 2010 12:21PM)
Thank you Mr. Tango and funsway.
Now I am really intrigued!!
Message: Posted by: bghost (Apr 30, 2010 12:38PM)
By the way where can I get a slippery steel shell?
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Apr 30, 2010 01:17PM)
We make it
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Apr 30, 2010 02:59PM)
That sounds very interesting. I've never used a slippery sam or similar gaff; never seen one for that matter. But I think I am going to... :)

Thanks!

Jim

[quote]
On 2010-04-29 23:58, Mr. Tango wrote:
Wong coin is a split coin and a slipery steel shell that you can not show as a regular coin. T.U.C. Is a totaly diferent concept because you can show the coin as a regular coin. By the way if you add a slippery steel shell to a T.U.C you can produce three coins from one
[/quote]

Mr. Tango:

Where can I find this? And what is it actually called? On your site I cannot find much at all - search doesn’t work most of the time, and there is no category for coin s other than the specific ones listed on the left. Searching "slippery" brings no results; searching "sh**l" gets only 12 results, and I know you have more than that.

I did find the "Slippery Exp. Sh***" at other magic shops just now but none mention "steel". Is the steel required for magnetic purposes?

Thank you.

Jim
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Apr 30, 2010 03:54PM)
Same here.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Apr 30, 2010 04:48PM)
Since one of the Features of the TUC is being able to flip it, drop it on the table, toss it from hand to hand, etc -- having another Gaff shimmed would allow the combo unit to be handled in similar manner. It's an advantage for ease of handling rather than a requirement. I am perfectly happy using a standard EXP or "slippery" in many effects. If I had the shimmed ones I would add more twirls and flips to my presentations.

However, most effects documented so far use only the TUC and normal coins. Additional Gaffs should not be considered a factor in getting your first TUC.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Apr 30, 2010 11:19PM)
As I discovered that a Slip.... Steel Exp... Sh... Works very well together a TUC we are making this kind of coin steel.

I will be introducing this coin thru our site and our distributers soon.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (May 1, 2010 01:32AM)
[quote]
On 2010-05-01 00:19, Mr. Tango wrote:
As I discovered that a Slip.... Steel Exp... Sh... Works very well together a TUC we are making this kind of coin steel.

I will be introducing this coin thru our site and our distributers soon.
[/quote]

OK - I think I misunderstood your previous post; I thought that you already sold this. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Thanks!

Jim
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (May 1, 2010 05:04PM)
Yes, we sold some of them to the members of the caffe. But now we'll be selling them in massive way.
Message: Posted by: wingz (May 3, 2010 03:35PM)
Please let us know when the SSES Kennedy Half is General Available.

I'll be interest in ordering one.

Another happy TUC owner.
Message: Posted by: funsway (May 3, 2010 05:49PM)
I'm calling it the "ShimSlip" in the Book unless someone comes up with something better. I already have a couple of new Effects using this Gaff and haven't even seen one.
Message: Posted by: Red Neck Magician (May 3, 2010 07:40PM)
Mr.Tango what will be the name of the coin be when it reaches the magic shops? I am interested in purchasing one.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (May 3, 2010 08:46PM)
In another topic there is a discussion of some new TUC's being made with round rather than square gaffs. I am amazed with the fast pace of innovation with the TUC. I suggest that anyone considering custom orders discuss the merits of this option with Mr. Tango. I like the Slippery sam option. I have already discussed ordering a sh**med E-] made to fit a custom TUC. The possibilities with that combination are endless.
A.
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (May 3, 2010 09:16PM)
Yes ! Definitely like a round gaff.
Message: Posted by: funsway (May 4, 2010 07:15AM)
Please notice the offer of a free TUC effect as a Sneak Preview at
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=363258&forum=202&0

the "Coins Across" selection can use the new ShimSlip, SSES or whatever you call it -- or an old trusty Expanded Shell --

a completely different 3Fly type effect in which the hands never touch and each transport (6) appears different to the audience.

the "Copper-Silver" uses a signed Copper coin and the multiple Changes happen in the spectator's hand.

the "Quarter" is an incredible impromptu Transportation using change from your pocket.

the "Production/Vanish" is a lead in to other effects in which three coins are produced one at a time in spectacular fashion.

enjoy!

Posted: May 5, 2010 12:00pm
It seems that the Effect offered for "Quarter" can work with the Euro TUC also.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (May 7, 2010 10:39AM)
I was receiving some pm asking about the teflon circles for TUC and Slippery shell coins.
I want to say that we sell them and you can get them in your favorite magic store.
One very good tip for TUC is this one: if your teflon circle is damaged for the friction between the magnet and the metal, don't take out the teflon, put a new one over the oldest. 99 per cent of the times the coin works better with 2 teflon circles one over other.
Message: Posted by: Flyswatter (May 7, 2010 12:34PM)
Mr. Tango, funsway, or anyone, where can I get an expanded shimmed shell/shimslip?
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (May 8, 2010 01:19AM)
[quote]
On 2010-05-07 13:34, Flyswatter wrote:
Mr. Tango, funsway, or anyone, where can I get an expanded shimmed shell/shimslip?
[/quote]

You're better off waiting for the magnetic version Mr. Tango said he will begin making soon. For now you will do much better with a good exp. sh**l instead.

When Mr. Tango first mentioned that he had the slippery sh**ls I went and bought one of Tango's regular non-magnetic ones. Mistake. It is not very good - the heads side is way too flat, similar to Tango's regular exp. sh**l; not enough relief on Kennedy's head/face. Plus I hope they make the new magnetic ones a good bit deeper because the non-magnetic one that I purchased is too shallow and you can see the edge of the TUC much too easily.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (May 9, 2010 05:31PM)
We use new half dollar coins to make our coins, and the new coins has less relief comparing with the old coins.
Message: Posted by: Bambu (May 9, 2010 08:35PM)
I have the dollar size T.U.C and noticed that if it is not used for a while the insert is hard to slide off the shell but after a warm up of sliding the insert in and out a few times, it becomes much easier to do it. I also stuck a piece of tape on top of the magnet as suggested in one of the post.

Seems that the the magnet loses some strength while in use and then regains full force when it's idling.
Message: Posted by: Marc Frese (May 11, 2010 09:31AM)
[quote]
On 2010-04-29 07:01, Marc Frese wrote:
Hi,
I need help!

I have the 2 € coin, and I am not happy!

My coin has small dents on the side.
The coin is very loud at the slightest movement.
Also I can not put the coin from one hand to the other.
I would have to deal with the coin as a raw egg.
Always there is the noise!

Does anyone have an idea?

all the best
marc
[/quote]

Hello, little great news!
Tango has replaced my coins!
The new coin has even a german back.
Great! I call that great customer service!!
Very big thanks to tango magic!
And everything was quite simple, a photo and a mail was enough.
Many thanks!

The new coin is really fantastic.
Well made and accurate.
I have played for hours with the coin.

Highly recommended.

10/10
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (May 28, 2010 10:07AM)
Dear Friends,

I want to remember you that I will be lecturing in Sand Diego July 11st, the day after IBM congress finish. I will be in Knoxville too July 15th. I will be 3 days in Knoxville at Funsway house, so if somebody wants to meet me I will be there playing with my T.U.Cs

See you there.

PD: I will take a good number of silver TUC in Morgan and Walking Liberty versions to sell in my lectures.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jun 15, 2010 02:03PM)
Offer extended

while final editing is progressing with the "Essential T.U.C." book
the offer of a free effect has been extended

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=320107&forum=202&277&start=270

the feedback has been most helpful -- so, let me know which T.U.C. you have, get a special effect and drop me a line
Message: Posted by: sdmagic (Jun 15, 2010 04:15PM)
If you or anyone you know is going to be in San Diego July 11th, be sure to attend Mr. Tango's 2 hour long TUC Lecture. It will be held at the same hotel as the convention (the IBM convention finishes the day before Mr. Tango's lecture).

This will be an INCREDIBLE opportunity to learn how to use the Tango Ultimate Coin. Mr. Tango will present the lecture and teach basic technique as well as these effects:

3 Fly

One Coin Routine

Coins through table

Matrix (with reverse)

Chink a Chink

Coin Through Borrowed Bill

Signed Coin to Can

Signed Coin to Pepper

Coins Across

Coins To Glass

Coins to Spectator's Hand

Always 3

Coin Production(s)

Copper and Silver Routines

What a great opportunity to learn from the creator of the Tango Ultimate Coin!

See you there!

sdmagic
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Jul 1, 2010 10:25AM)
I just received my custom made Morgan TUC. This gaff is blowing me away. I already had a standard TUC half so I already knew its workings and how useful it is, but I had no idea that it would make such a difference to get the Morgan version. I am so glad that I saved up to do it. The Morgan size makes all the difference in the world. It just works more smoothly, effortlessly in fact. I also requested a round m****t rather than square - I prefer it - and the operation is smooth as glass. I can see where the square might be helpful under certain circumstances (ie, if you do a lot of coin magic in the spec's hands), but for me, the circle works great.

Quite simply, this is the most useful coin gaff I own.

Another thing, Dealing with Mr. Tango was an absolute pleasure. Not only is he creating revolutionary magic, but he is humble and easy to deal with. What a combination!

Regards,

Alan
Message: Posted by: revmike (Jul 1, 2010 04:14PM)
I second the opinion - we had some mailing issues and when the one Mr Tango sent me didn't come, he instead sent me another one - I am very pleased with it.

Mike
Message: Posted by: sdmagic (Jul 1, 2010 09:45PM)
Don't forget to mark your calendar for Mr. Tango's July 11th TUC Lecture (2 Hours!) in San Diego. It will be held at the Town and Country Hotel the morning AFTER the IBM Convention finishes. PM me if you need details...

sdmagic
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jul 2, 2010 06:21PM)
Dear Friends,

See you in San Diego, I will have a lot Morgan and Walking liberty TUC there. I'm really anxious to give my lecture there.

Bye
Message: Posted by: superpixel (Jul 13, 2010 09:09AM)
Looking forward to your lecture this week in Knoxville! Will you have any quarter size TUC inventory with you?
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jul 13, 2010 09:17AM)
Yes, I have it.
Message: Posted by: sdmagic (Jul 14, 2010 10:58AM)
I attended Mr. Tango's "Stress Free Magic" seminar last weekend. It was excellent! Mr. Tango explained several effects that are SO EASY to do using the Tango Ultimate Coin (TUC). The lecture/workshop was 2 hours long, and packed with great coin routines including Reverse Matrix, Coins Across, Chink-A-Chink, Coins Through Table, Coins to Glass and a killer Copper/Silver effect.

If you're not a skilled sleight of hand artist, you should get a TUC and learn these effects. Mr. Tango calls it Stress Free Magic, and it really is!

The TUC enables even beginning coin magicians to perform numerous effects that used to require difficult moves. With the TUC the handling is simplified, and there are no fast moves.

The TUC is a revolutionary new way to do close up coin magic. If you get a chance to attend Mr. Tango's lecture I highly recommend it!!
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Jul 14, 2010 04:18PM)
Ouch! It appears that prices have gone up for TUCs recently! Rats!

I purchased three of them when they were released and noticed that most magic shops online offered reasonable discounts on them. I just took another look at several shops this week and it looks like all are holding to the retail price or very close to it. I'll probably find discounts somewhere but I wonder if the dealer agreement now calls for a "minimum advertised price" for TUCs?

Jim
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jul 16, 2010 10:14AM)
During my couple of days with Mr. Tango the subject of pricing, packaging, support materials, etc. came up frequently. Tango has not raised its prices, and if anything you should see a price reduction in future years on standard sized (available coins) but an increase in custom coins like a Morgan Set. It's a matter of producion efficiency vs. material/labor costs.

Mr. Tango does not dictate pricing -- don't know about Murphy's. The fact that people are hanging onto their TUC's may have an impact, i.e. dealers are not competing with a used TUC market. If the idea of "Keep on TUCing" support/mentoring groups catches on that may be a source for TUC's where people are "moving up" to other models.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Jul 16, 2010 12:13PM)
Hi Ken!

I should have made my post more clear: I was referring to the prices that most online magic shops are charging. For a few months after the initial debut of the TUC all that I visited offered their usual discounts. Lately though the shops' pricing is either retail or just a tad under retail.

Ken, quite often creators dictate a MAP - Minimum Advertised Price - which sets the prices a retailer must adhere to, at least in their advertising. See this link for an example: http://consumerist.com/2007/09/what-is-minimum-advertised-price.html

I wasn’t stating that this has been done with the TUC, and I didn't say that this was fact and that Mr. Tango has such a policy; I said "I wonder if the dealer agreement now calls for a "minimum advertised price" for TUCs" in my last post.

When you see prices for a certain item suddenly appear to be the same at various shops it crosses one's mind. At least this mind! ;)

Thank you.

Jim

Posted: Jul 16, 2010 1:16pm
And by the way, this won't keep me from purchasing more TUCs - I still haven't picked up any TUC Quarters and I do want a couple of those, along with at least one Ike TUC. What IS stopping me for now is very simple: my available funds to spend on magic. Most has been going toward more magic books lately.

I'll get 'em sooner or later.

Thank you.

Jim
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jul 17, 2010 06:53AM)
Mr. Tango presented a Lecture in Knoxville, TN last week. Naturally, to enthusiastic response and whispered comments as eyes and hearts were opened to the possibilities of the Tango Ultimate Coin.

I had the opportunity to spend several days with Mr. Tango prior to his Lecture in. Thus, during the Lecture I was able to observe the audience rather than his performance. It is fun to notice when the “magic moment” occurs in the mind of the spectator in comparison to when the magician plans it. The T.U.C. wins again! There were multiple “aw-ha” experiences for each effect – especially for those magicians well versed in coin sleights. The magic of the TUC works for lay people and magicians alike – just in different ways. A big hit was his unique approach to ”stress free” body loads, and how the TUC Features allows for misdirection not available with other gaffs.

Mr. Tango is now refining his Lectures to focus on “Stress Free Magic” rather than just demonstrations of this TUC. There is no question that this gaff allows many traditional coin effects to be performed smoothly and easily without difficult sleights or a need to conceal or ditch extra coins. More importantly, this allows the performer to focus on audience engagement and a presentation tailored to both setting and spectator needs.

The TUC does not allow you to just do “a trick or two,” but is a tool upon which entire routines can be built. Each magician will be able to innovate new ways of using this tool beyond the dozens of effects described on the DVDs. The old problem of written instructions has been eliminated. A continuous supply of new effects will also be available in future books, eBooks, DVDs and through the “Keep on TUCing” mentoring groups.

To expand the “Stress Free” concept he also presented several card effects based on a unique but simple principle. The “card mechanics” in the audience were even more amazed than the main group – proving once again that presentation is more important that the trick. Future Lectures will include effects other than the TUC and a discussion/workshop on handing the special coin. He has come to understand that the real magic is getting your hands on a TUC and discovering the potential for yourself. I have now created more than 40 new effects using this invention. How about you?

Look for a Lecture in your area next year, join a Keep on TUCing Group, and take your coin magic to a new level of simplicity and astonishment.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Jul 18, 2010 05:22PM)
Funsway, will a lecture be coming to Florida any time soon?

As to the comment about people hanging on to their TUC's, I have a TUC Morgan, a TUC Kennedy, and a TUC copper/silver. All being used regularly, and none will be for sale in the near future. If anything, I will be purchasing more and having more sets customized.

Regards,

Alan
Message: Posted by: Eric Johnson (Jul 18, 2010 07:07PM)
Hi can anyone tell me if the copper/silver T.U.C. is an English penny with the Half dollar leaf or a half Dollar with the english pennyleaf?
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Jul 18, 2010 11:23PM)
Eric, sent you a PM.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jul 20, 2010 12:45AM)
I have had a couple of TUC's for the past several weeks. This is really an innovative coin. I have an Ike and a Kennedy half. The possibilities with these coins are marvelous. Most of you already know that.

I met Mr. Tango at the IBM convention in San Diego, and almost immediately purchased a Morgan TUC from him, because I tend to use larger coins in my work, and I tend to use Morgans instead of Ikes.

Mr. Tango keeps a very high quality to price ratio on all his products. He is also a nice person.

He wants everyone who buys his products to be happy with them.
Message: Posted by: knite (Jul 25, 2010 05:20PM)
I just ordered a TUC quarter from Penguin. I'm really looking forward to playing with this gaff!

Is there an ETA for the Essential TUC book?
Message: Posted by: Salah AAZEDINE (Jul 27, 2010 09:46AM)
I'v always ordered all my custon gaffed coin from Mr Tongo, he is a great person to deal with and a great service and a good quality.
I don't have the T.U.C yet but I had to chance to meet Mr Tango and see it in action it's a very clever gaff with a lot of possibilities.
Message: Posted by: Sammy J. (Jul 31, 2010 10:48PM)
I just got my first T.U.C in the mail today. After reading this thread, the method is exactly what I thought it would be.

I am very excited about working with this coin (I got the Kennedy half). The DVD explains a number of effects nicely, and there is a lot of new material on the way.

Only glitch is the orientation of the heads and tails sides of the "extra" coin. They are incorrect on mine. Having said that, I don't think anyone would notice except an overly observant magician.

Overall, a great investment in a new tool that will be fun to experiment with!

Congrats and Cheers to Mr. Tango.

Sammy
Message: Posted by: funsway (Aug 1, 2010 08:07AM)
Good eye -- something I had never noticed, perhaps because when I do either a real twirl or a fake "Twirl" to show both sides I rotate the coin about a quarter turn. Since the sides of the Joined TUC are never aligned properly, Mr. Tango probaly did not think it an issue. I'll have to ask.

If it is a concern I am sure he can correct it in production as each Leaf and Shell combination is hand made.
Message: Posted by: Woland (Aug 3, 2010 09:26AM)
I just checked the heads/tails orientation of the "extra" of my JFK half T.U.C. It is correct, and I verified with a side by side comparison of an ungaffed coin rather than rely on memory/knowledge of what it should be.

Woland
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Aug 3, 2010 09:16PM)
Pretty good price here: http://madhattermagicshop.com/magicshop/product_info.php?products_id=8200

Even if you just want an "extra".

Just sayin'
Message: Posted by: knite (Aug 5, 2010 01:33PM)
I just received my TUC quarter. I love the design and feel of the coin, but there's one improvement I would love to see - the shell's edge is not milled/ridged.
Message: Posted by: Brian Proctor (Aug 7, 2010 03:32AM)
I got the Ike dollar last week and it's amazing. I love the way it is so easy to use. I hace been using it for Troy Hoosers Extroydinary routine, and it just makes life that much easier!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 17, 2010 11:59AM)
We have available shiny Morgan T.U.C $ 250 and walking liberty T.U.C $ 150, both case the shipping fee is included.
I have 20 units each. Contact me if you have interest.
Message: Posted by: whiteoakcanyon (Aug 27, 2010 09:45PM)
I very recently purchased the TUC and am very impressed. It is even better than advertised - what a great product. I highly recommend it to anyone.
Message: Posted by: NYVetteGuy (Aug 31, 2010 09:19PM)
[quote]
On 2010-08-17 12:59, Mr. Tango wrote:
We have available shiny Morgan T.U.C $ 250 and walking liberty T.U.C $ 150, both case the shipping fee is included.
I have 20 units each. Contact me if you have interest.
[/quote]

I had Mr. Tango make me a custom Morgan set....his work is top notch...
Message: Posted by: robbyrob (Sep 17, 2010 09:19PM)
Mr Tango - I am very interested in the walking liberty TUC if it is still available. I'll PM you.

Thanks,

Rob
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Sep 20, 2010 10:44AM)
Yes, Rob I have them in stock right now.
Message: Posted by: ralphs007 (Sep 26, 2010 02:06PM)
Hi
I can't remember who recommended using rosin on your thumb's . I'd like to thank you because it works great. I have dry hand's and was very discouraged when I first tried my TUC.
I remember reading a post about a year ago, and the poster said using rosin is a crutch. That's one of the most ridiculous reply's I've ever read! Using his logic a golfer who uses a golf glove also needs a crutch .
hth
Ralph
Message: Posted by: Bambu (Sep 26, 2010 02:24PM)
Is the Ike TUC available now with a round m*****?
Message: Posted by: alibaba (Sep 27, 2010 02:04PM)
Chamberlain's Lotion (Golden Touch) helps make things easier as well.
Message: Posted by: ralphs007 (Sep 27, 2010 04:37PM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-27 15:04, alibaba wrote:
Chamberlain's Lotion (Golden Touch) helps make things easier as well.
[/quote]
Hi
I tried that too but the rosin works better for me.
thanks
Message: Posted by: mavericklancer (Sep 28, 2010 01:55AM)
I just got my TUC and I'd like to add my humble recommendations. Thanks to everyone who suggested it! This allows one of the cleanest and easiest 3Flys (among other awesome effects) I've come across. There's so much potential here, it's ridiculous. Any coin worker who doesn't have this should seriously look into it!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Sep 28, 2010 03:23PM)
Hy friends,

Yes, ALL TUC VERSION, has now circle m****. About 3 fly routine, I improved the one that I included at the TUC dvd, I will think to introduce a new DVD called TUC miracles before Christmas. Anyway I will upload the routine to youtube next week and the T.U.C users will know how to do it just watching the performance.
Message: Posted by: ralphs007 (Oct 4, 2010 09:56AM)
Hi Mr. Tango
Could you list the link when it's ready?
Thanks
Ralph
Message: Posted by: rhettbryson (Oct 4, 2010 02:12PM)
Mr. Tango.... How do I go about getting my TUC half dollar's m****t changed to a round one - and at the same time get an additional teflon disc? Please advise.

Posted: Oct 4, 2010 3:37pm
Another thought from me - on the Ultimate coin.... I had initially a lot of trouble getting the needed separation to work. I tried the adjustment method suggested - the thumb press and the tape addition. My thinking is that the addition of masking tape defeats the purpose of the slippery tape the coins use. Anyone with advice for me would be most appreciated as I can not seem to get consistent results.
Message: Posted by: David P (Oct 4, 2010 02:56PM)
I had the same problem, that of getting the needed separation. My success rate was only about 70%, certainly not enough to feel confident. Then I tried a loop of scotch t... in middle of sq....this raised the pivot point slightly and improved my success rate, but too sticky. Now I have some Tango tef... di..s, cut down, placed on top of neo....ium . This works better and I think the way to go (for me). My ma...et is square. I wonder if a round one would be better across the board???
Message: Posted by: rhettbryson (Oct 4, 2010 05:51PM)
David P - How/where did you get the t****n t**e?
Message: Posted by: Salby (Oct 4, 2010 06:05PM)
.
I used 2 pieces of "Mouse Tape" to the Magnet portion... That thickness is PERFECT!!!

You also get the benefit of the "Teflon (slippery)" feature.

Try-- What do you have to lose??... You can alway remove it.
.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Oct 4, 2010 07:04PM)
David P.
I prefer round (I have both a square Kennedy half and a round custom Morgan dollar). The advantages of square is that the coin is somewhat more stable when you are handling the coin (finger rolls, etc.), but I too have had problems in getting it to open consistently without some struggle. You have to be more careful with the round as it is easier to open when you are not wanting it to open. However, the round opens flawlessly (for me anyway). No struggle, no rosin, no mouse tape, no problems.

[quote]
On 2010-10-04 18:51, rhettbryson wrote:
David P - How/where did you get the t****n t**e?
[/quote]

As for the tef**n, you can buy them here:

http://themagicwarehouse.com/cgi-bin/findit.pl?x_item=TA4370&keyword=TEFLON

Regards,

Alan
Message: Posted by: David P (Oct 4, 2010 10:56PM)
Rhett, Alan,
My t....n circles came from Tango as well. For my half dollar TUC, I cut the circle down about 1/8" and placed it overhanging square a bit but not touching edge - if that makes sense. I've been practicing with this setup and it works much better.
Message: Posted by: magicmind (Oct 5, 2010 09:31AM)
Is it possible to just get the "extra" coin in c/s? Or do I have to buy a second TUC?
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Oct 5, 2010 10:52AM)
[quote]
On 2010-10-05 10:31, magicmind wrote:
Is it possible to just get the "extra" coin in c/s? Or do I have to buy a second TUC?
[/quote]

Just pm Mr. Tango. He is really responsive (unless he is traveling) and you pay him through paypal.

Regards,

Alan
Message: Posted by: funsway (Oct 5, 2010 07:46PM)
As each TUC is individually fitted it is doubtful you can use the same S***l with several different Leaves. I asked Mr. Tango this last year and he said no -- but things might have changed.
Message: Posted by: Brian Proctor (Oct 5, 2010 07:59PM)
Just a heads up, I have a new Ike dollar tuc for sale in the tricks dealer section. Lettin it go at a 15 buck loss. My loss is your gain.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Oct 6, 2010 01:29AM)
Question: When I watched one of the T.U.C. videos I saw a trick using the quarter coin appearing in a can of soda. Is that taught on the DVD with the quarter? Also, could all that orange soda harm the Teflon coating?

*Also, the video demo showed the T.U.C. quarter appearing in a vegetable (red pepper!). I'm assuming the cutting utensil is an integral part of this - which cutting utensil were they using, and does Tango sell them on their site?

I bought a T.U.C. half dollar about a month ago but I just haven't had time to watch the entire DVD or play with it BUT it is definitely an ingenious gaff - I'm amazed at how easy & smoothly it works!

Thanks.
BRETT
Message: Posted by: funsway (Oct 6, 2010 06:11AM)
Saysold1 - yes, both effects are on the Quarter DVD and are included in the pending book "Essential TUC"

I'll try and answer since Mr. Tango is on Lecture Tour.

No, you can wipe the Leaf after showing the initials to the spectator and Joining the TUC

The cutting utensil is not important -- you can have the spectaror break open the pepper with their fingers with no knife at all. The pepper is used because there is no mess like fruit.

send me an email at gusarimagic@comcast.net and I'll send you a Sneak Preview effect
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Oct 6, 2010 01:09PM)
[quote]
On 2010-08-07 04:32, Brian Proctor wrote:
I got the Ike dollar last week and it's amazing. I love the way it is so easy to use. I hace been using it for Troy Hoosers Extroydinary routine, and it just makes life that much easier!
[/quote]

So now you are now apparently selling this at a $15 loss - why what happened in month you owned it? Don't love your T.U.C. as much anymore?
Message: Posted by: rhettbryson (Oct 7, 2010 10:40AM)
Anyone having any trouble with the corners and edges of the card "delaminating?"
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Oct 7, 2010 09:27PM)
[quote]
On 2010-10-07 11:40, rhettbryson wrote:
Anyone having any trouble with the corners and edges of the card "delaminating?"
[/quote]

Yes, but to be honest this is pretty common with this type of shimmed card. If you check around the online magic shops replacements are pretty inexpensive. Remember you don’t need a magnetic shim; just a plain steel shimmed card.

Jim

Then again, before you replace the card a glue stick will do wonders! I bought a handful of additional cards though as backup.

Jim
Message: Posted by: 8thking (Oct 8, 2010 04:14AM)
I've read as much as I can find on this coin and Istill can't work out which is the easiest to handle? It seems that the Ike is for some reason, could anybody please explain how / why? thanks
Message: Posted by: funsway (Oct 8, 2010 06:20AM)
I think it is the weight of the various parts of the TUC. I have arthritus problems and the Ike just "feels better" to me -- more confidence. I have a lot of trouble with the Quarter TUC -- which could be from lessened acuity of my finger for smaller objects.

I had the Kennedy Half first and developed dozens of new effects using it. Then I got the Ike which I like better, but still use the Kennedy for many effects.

Thus, the size is a personal preference rather than any function of the TUC itself.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Oct 15, 2010 12:31AM)
Why this tread was moved from Trick coin trickery ? I think that it would be moved back.
Message: Posted by: Brian Proctor (Oct 15, 2010 07:49PM)
I couldn't find a place for it in my current repetitore. There is nothing wrong with it. I am going to hang on to it a bit longer and brainstorm ideas for use in my restaurant. I heard there is one made with a circular magnet now. The one I have is square and it's hard on the corners to do the move.

[quote]
On 2010-10-06 14:09, saysold1 wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-08-07 04:32, Brian Proctor wrote:
I got the Ike dollar last week and it's amazing. I love the way it is so easy to use. I hace been using it for Troy Hoosers Extroydinary routine, and it just makes life that much easier!
[/quote]

So now you are now apparently selling this at a $15 loss - why what happened in month you owned it? Don't love your T.U.C. as much anymore?
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: funsway (Oct 16, 2010 06:40AM)
I'll wager that if you returned it to Mr. Tango he would replace the magnet -- worth asking anyway.
Message: Posted by: ralphs007 (Oct 21, 2010 11:04PM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-28 16:23, Mr. Tango wrote:
Hy friends,

Yes, ALL TUC VERSION, has now circle m****. About 3 fly routine, I improved the one that I included at the TUC dvd, I will think to introduce a new DVD called TUC miracles before Christmas. Anyway I will upload the routine to youtube next week and the T.U.C users will know how to do it just watching the performance.
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Has this been uploaded yet?
Thanks
Ralph
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Oct 25, 2010 03:43PM)
No yet, sorry, I will do it soon
Message: Posted by: The Great Dave (Nov 11, 2010 07:59AM)
I purchased Brian Proctor's Ike Dollar. I modified it with three layers of scotch tape cut to the size of the square. It works perfectly now. The instructions have a fix/repair memo about pressing the coin with my finger to change the configuration of the shell so it works better. I think the tape solution is easier and much more adjustable. You can change the coin setup by adding or taking off a layer of tape.

I have a lot of experience handling gaffed coins and I can tell you that the tape solution has this set working spot on.

Best,
Dave
Message: Posted by: ralphs007 (Nov 11, 2010 10:25AM)
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On 2010-10-25 16:43, Mr. Tango wrote:
No yet, sorry, I will do it soon
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No hurry,I thought I was using the wrong title in my youtube search.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Nov 30, 2010 04:16PM)
Hello friends,

I will in New York City in December, 14th to 20th. I would love to give my lecture there, so if somebody has a magic club or same place where I could go, please contact me.

Bye
Message: Posted by: bicycle66 (Dec 9, 2010 10:16PM)
Wow so many pages on 1 coin gaff (I thought I was reading a Schoolcraft Lassen debate LOL) it took me a very long time to read through it all after I did I contacted Mr. Tango and ordered my T.U.C. there is just too much positive to pass this by maybe just in time too because with so much chatter about this coin......do I hear a price increase ha ha ha.....actually its great there are so many people buzzing about this and new projects with the new video and book soon it will be nice to see what everyone elses minds are thinking I have thought of some routines that I hope this coin will be able to fit in perfectally with and I am sure if its all what people are saying about it I will think of many other uses the videos I've seen so far all look great I can't wait. So far the comunication with the people I've talked to has been unbelievable I can't believe how hands on the maker Mr. Tango has been in answering my so many questions as well as funsway very helpful if that's any indication if that is any indication to their effort and work ethic then their project should be great once finalized. Sean.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Dec 13, 2010 12:38PM)
The book "T.U.C. Alchemy" for the C/S Version of the TUC is now available

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=393600&forum=218&0

112 pages dedicated exclusively to performing with the C/S TUC,
none of which is from the Tango DVD.
Message: Posted by: pabloinus (Dec 13, 2010 03:25PM)
I am lost on the books for the TUC
Funsway has 2 as far as I know, the Pocket TUC and TUC Alchemy, which is Essential TUC? the hardcover to come?

Thank you ... Pablo
Message: Posted by: funsway (Dec 14, 2010 04:00AM)
Yes, "Essential T.U.C." is a hard-bound book in progress,
now in the hands of Mr. Tango and Argentine printers.

I will be releasing eBooks and some paperbacks of exerpts of this Book on selected themes,
plus adding new effects as they evolve such as the Christmas themed "Family Ties"

So -- the Master Book will represent an exploration into every imagined use of the TUC
from which the reader can pick and choose what works for them. Smaller releases will
enable the magician to focus on a specific range of effects -- or to "sample the water" before plunging into the depths of Essential TUC.

the Master Work is a combination of effects from Mr. Tango, myself and a few other contibuters. As popularity of the TUC grows I am sure that other compilations of effects will be possible -- and that others will publish sets of effects.

Thus, if you plan to get Essential I would not recommend "Pocket TUC" unless you like the idea of carrying around a study guide in your pocket. However, getting the Download version of "Pocket" will give you glimps of what "Essential" contains as a way of justifying the expense -- whatever that is -- probaably $60-75

Me? I'm just anxious to get these new effects into the hands of performers and keep the dream alive.
Message: Posted by: BarryTX (Dec 14, 2010 08:04AM)
Funsway,

From the above and descriptions at Lulu I understand TUC Alchemy to be specifically for the C/S version of TUC. For a silver-only version of TUC, is Pocket TUC the only (and right?) choice at the moment or is there another book that I'm missing? Do I understand correctly that Essential TUC will be all-encompassing across the different versions of TUC?
Message: Posted by: funsway (Dec 14, 2010 04:45PM)
Yes, on all counts. There is little in Pocket TUC that is not in Essential TUC. I released it for folks who can't wait or want to explore the investment in the master book. Essential covers every idea related to the TUC I could embrace before last June. Now I have a couple of things I might add -- but too late

TUC Alchemy does contain some effects not in Essential -- created after the draft was finalized.

There are also come eBooks on the TUC available on everswy.com -- and more will be made available -- small collections of effects on a theme like "Cherub Coins."


Some hints on Essential T.U.C. -- the original 400-500 page estimate was reduced by changing font, line spacing and enlarging the book to 81/2" swaure -- now 358 pages. More than 60 effects and 100 unique sleights and moves, plus many ideas for using the TUC in ways Mr. Tango never envisioned. Edited by Bill Palmer with contributions from some big name people -- but 38 of the effects are mine.
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Dec 14, 2010 05:06PM)
Just to catch the typo on Ken's website, it is...
http://www.eversway.com

Looking forward to the book.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Dec 16, 2010 09:16PM)
The "big book" has been released as a paperback under the title "T.U.C. Appreciation" though it is already nicknamed "TUC & SWAY"

The original plans have now been split into two separate books with Essential T.U.C. coming out in mid-2011 with a different approach and structure. Dealer distribution issues require the book to be published in the USA instead of Argentina, so we made the decision to get this material out now to meet the many requests.

more details at http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=394124&forum=218&0

There is 10% for book orders placed in 2010 -- and might even make it for Christmas.

PS. we will be looking for additional contributors of unique TUC effects
Message: Posted by: Dale Houck (Dec 21, 2010 08:35PM)
I ordered the T.U.C. Appreciation today from LULU because they sent me an email with a 15% off code that only works today (according to the email). I'm looking forward to getting the book.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Dec 21, 2010 11:06PM)
I did the same, but my email said that there would be a new coupon every day until Christmas. If tomorrow's coupon is for 25% off, I guess we made a bad decision, Dale. Incidentally, I bought the downloadable version and I am hoping that it is the same as the hardbound TUC Appreciation despite having a slightly different description. Ken?

Regards,

Alan
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Dec 21, 2010 11:23PM)
Darn! I have a Lulu account and I didn't get any email from them!

Jim
Message: Posted by: AngeloR (Dec 21, 2010 11:40PM)
At Lulu the hardcover book is discounted 15%. An additional 15% discount is available if ordered by 11:59 PM Pacific Time today (Dec. 21st).
Message: Posted by: funsway (Dec 29, 2010 08:12PM)
The contents of both the hardbound and paperback are the same though the page size is slightly different. The first is 8.5X8.5" square and the HB is 8.25X10.75" with a top header and wider top-bottom borders. Both are 358 pages single spaced.
Message: Posted by: leaycraft (Dec 29, 2010 08:58PM)
I can recommend this book highly not for the routines but as a beginner its the philospophy and thinking behind each or should I say the process that I am enjoying very much.
Thank-you Its a valuable resource.
Message: Posted by: AngeloR (Jan 5, 2011 12:07PM)
Just received my Kennedy Half T.U.C.. As already stated many times, GREAT concept!

I have been strictly a card man and this is my first "special" coin, so this may be an "eye-roller" of a question, but how quiet should the coin be when handled? Mine makes noise when moved gently side-to-side. It also will talk when casually, but gently, placed down or flipped over on my close-up pad. Many posts on the Café mention the advantages of what sounds like casual handling. This has led me to expect that my coin would be quiet with normal, natural handling.

If the talking/noise I have described is normal, fine; I will work around it.
If not normal: Is there any adjustment I can make to "tighten up" the fit a bit (without compromising easy handling)? Or should I contact Mr. Tango?
Feel free to PM if there are exposure issues connected to a response.

Again, a revolutionary product! Thanks Mr. Tango.

Regards,
Angelo
Message: Posted by: 8thking (Jan 5, 2011 12:18PM)
Thank you for your reply funsway I think I am getting this mixed up with another coin I have a clad kenedy that splits into 3 and I was looking for ike because I cant stretch to morgans
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Jan 5, 2011 04:13PM)
[quote]
On 2011-01-05 13:07, AngeloR wrote:
Just received my Kennedy Half T.U.C..

I have been strictly a card man and this is my first "special" coin, so this may be an "eye-roller" of a question, but how quiet should the coin be when handled? Mine makes noise when moved gently side-to-side. It also will talk when casually, but gently, placed down or flipped over on my close-up pad. Many posts on the Café mention the advantages of what sounds like casual handling. This has led me to expect that my coin would be quiet with normal, natural handling.

Angelo
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Noise is an issue with any S***l set, and I have found that the newer clad coins have a increased amount of "talking" when compared to silver coins. In addition, high relief (XF or better for coin collectors) silver coins always "talk" more than well worn silver coins (called "soft" by coin magicians). There are a lot of threads on the Café regarding coins talking and how to reduce the noise such as: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=207852&forum=202

As for me, I have a 1921 Morgan TUC that is high relief (a near uncirculated coin) and it's talking is minimal. Also, most of the noise problems can be solved with well timed patter.

Regards,

Alan
Message: Posted by: feher (Jan 5, 2011 07:42PM)
Just having some fun with my oldest boy. First routine I came up when I recieved my TUC coin.
Ken, Did this routine make it in the TUC book?
Enjoy
Tim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5UOx5qcM68
Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Jan 5, 2011 08:06PM)
[quote]
On 2010-11-11 08:59, The Great Dave wrote:
I purchased Brian Proctor's Ike Dollar. I modified it with three layers of scotch tape cut to the size of the square. It works perfectly now. The instructions have a fix/repair memo about pressing the coin with my finger to change the configuration of the shell so it works better. I think the tape solution is easier and much more adjustable. You can change the coin setup by adding or taking off a layer of tape.

I have a lot of experience handling gaffed coins and I can tell you that the tape solution has this set working spot on.
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This is an excellent post on 2 levels:

- Provides a wonderful solution to the problem I had that caused me to eventually sell my TUC. It just would not open consistently. This is a great solution, which can be modified even further, if needed, by adding a smller piece/pieces of tape to a particular area of the gaff.

- It encourages us to not just say, "This won't work, so I will sell it" but to think "How can I make this work?" Works the same in routines, as well. For example, not saying, "I don't care for this trick" but "How can I work this gaff to its best advantage?"

I recently purchased a Trinity Coin Set, by Johnny Wong. The gaffs held together way too stongly, making it very difficult to work with. A PK ring created a partial solution, but I wasn't satisfied. So, I ripped out the inside sh*m and replaced it with a smaller one from a Nickel to Penny to Dime trick. Now it operates just like a Triple Threat - you can flip it in the air, but also separate it with the greatest of ease.

Lesson for me? Think before you sell!
Message: Posted by: Rizzo (Jan 5, 2011 08:44PM)
Well stated and good advice.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Jan 5, 2011 09:28PM)
[quote]
On 2011-01-05 21:06, Chessmann wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-11-11 08:59, The Great Dave wrote:
I modified it with three layers of scotch tape cut to the size of the square. It works perfectly now.
[/quote]

This is an excellent post on 2 levels:

- Provides a wonderful solution to the problem I had that caused me to eventually sell my TUC. It just would not open consistently. This is a great solution, which can be modified even further, if needed, by adding a smller piece/pieces of tape to a particular area of the gaff.

- It encourages us to not just say, "This won't work, so I will sell it" but to think "How can I make this work?" Works the same in routines, as well. For example, not saying, "I don't care for this trick" but "How can I work this gaff to its best advantage?"
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Hey Chess,

Angelo pm'd me and in answering him I got to thinking that the square/round issue might just be the problem. Although this thread has gotten very long, it contains a bunch of good advice on care and use of this great gaff, and is well worth reading (at least the last 6-8 months worth).

By the way my Morgan TUC is a twin of the one I think you just bought (made in the same run). Hope you enjoy it as much as I have been enjoying mine.

Regards,

Alan
Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Jan 6, 2011 12:04AM)
There's a point.

I can't say for sure if the square/round was a big thing. We do know that Mr. Tango now makes all his gaffs round, so I guess there was something to it. I purchased another very recently (the first one was square, but the pressing of the coin as a remedy for inconsistent opening was not consistent for me), tested it out, applied the "Great Dave" remedy, and bingo.

You are right, this is a great thread.

Yes, I am awaiting the Morgan TUC I just purchased, and looking forward to it.

All the best -
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Jan 6, 2011 01:47AM)
Problem is that most magic shops still have TUCs with the square magnets in them. Even when they get "new" shipments they still have square magnets - I guess the distributors still have back stock. And there is no way for them to know which they have without opening the package and the TUC itself. Not having local brick & mortar shops around can be a real PITA. I have purchased three additional TUCs since the round magnets came out and only the quarter TUC has a round magnet. And that's because I believe that all quarter TUCs have round.

Thank you.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Meshuggina (Jan 6, 2011 10:08AM)
Oh good! I just ordered a quarter and was hoping it would be round, but I figured I could live with it if it wasn't. I'm hoping you're right and it's round though.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jan 7, 2011 10:58AM)
Hello Friends,

I confirm all the quarter coins has circle magnet and we all making all TUC versions with circle magnet now.
Message: Posted by: funnybiz (Jan 12, 2011 05:36PM)
I got my first TUC today and I have to say that initially I was underwhelmed. However, after working with it throughout the day I have to say that I think it's likely to become one of the gaffs I utilize the most. It's versatility is impressive. For me it has required the least amount of practice and acclimation to a gimmick that I can recall. I got a Morgan set and it's too heavy for the matrix/card stuff. That's fine, though...since that's really, for me, a half dollar routine anyway. I plan to get this gimmick for all my coin sets. I was a little dubious that something like this could warrant books like Funsway has made. In fact, I bought his book before I got the gimmick almost out of sheer skepticism (sorry Funsway--no lack of confidence in you implied). However, after only a day of working with this. I'm pretty much happy to admit I was wrong. Chalk up another TUC convert.
Message: Posted by: ralphs007 (Jan 15, 2011 09:57AM)
Hi
I have dry hands so I'm looking for something to apply to the T.U.C so that it's easier to handle.I use rosin and golden touch lotion on my hands now. I was wondering if there was something like roughing fluid, that I could apply to the T.U.C every once in awhile, to make it easier to work with.
Does anyone have some kind of recommendation? I might try roughing fluid on a regular half dollar to see if it works.
thanks
Ralph
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Jan 15, 2011 09:48PM)
[quote]
On 2011-01-15 10:57, ralphs007 wrote:
Hi
I have dry hands so I'm looking for something to apply to the T.U.C so that it's easier to handle.I use rosin and golden touch lotion on my hands now. I was wondering if there was something like roughing fluid, that I could apply to the T.U.C every once in awhile, to make it easier to work with.
Does anyone have some kind of recommendation? I might try roughing fluid on a regular half dollar to see if it works.
thanks
Ralph
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In my experience, the larger the coin, the better it works generally. With dry hands, I would consider Ikes or spring for a Morgan TUC. Some other users have had luck adding tape to the m****t to make it work better for them. Read back a few pages on this thread to see if the problems they were having sound similar to what you are dealing with.

Regards,

Alan
Message: Posted by: ralphs007 (Jan 17, 2011 04:28PM)
[quote]
On 2011-01-15 22:48, BanzaiMagic wrote:
[quote]
On 2011-01-15 10:57, ralphs007 wrote:
Hi
I have dry hands so I'm looking for something to apply to the T.U.C so that it's easier to handle.I use rosin and golden touch lotion on my hands now. I was wondering if there was something like roughing fluid, that I could apply to the T.U.C every once in awhile, to make it easier to work with.
Does anyone have some kind of recommendation? I might try roughing fluid on a regular half dollar to see if it works.
thanks
Ralph
Hi
My T.U.C works great as long as I use lotion or put violin resin on my thumbs. My set also works great after I wash my hands.I sprayed roughing fluid on my TUC and it really helped. I'll have to see how long it holds up before I have to spray it again.I don't think there is a problem with my set. I think my dry hands are the real problem.
Thanks
Ralph
[/quote]

In my experience, the larger the coin, the better it works generally. With dry hands, I would consider Ikes or spring for a Morgan TUC. Some other users have had luck adding tape to the m****t to make it work better for them. Read back a few pages on this thread to see if the problems they were having sound similar to what you are dealing with.

Regards,

Alan
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Message: Posted by: ralphs007 (Jan 27, 2011 05:31PM)
Hi
I used roughing fluid on my TUC and it did the trick. It's been over a week now and it still works great for me.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Jan 27, 2011 09:29PM)
Ralph, I have started using a little helper that I originally began using for some card work - mostly separating cards in an Invisible Deck or Brainwave deck: I get the round plastic container of SortKwik and I cut out a hole in the lid - a fairly large hole. Then I keep that in my pants pocket and rub my fingers in it when needed. Gives me a great grip with my fingertips! The SortKwik container comes with a secondary kind of "lid" that is meant to keep on even when the lid it on - I think it says it's to prevent moisture. I keep that on under the lid with the hole when I am not using it.

Jim
Message: Posted by: ralphs007 (Jan 28, 2011 02:57PM)
Hi Jim
Thanks for the tip,I'll definitely give it a try! I carry a small atomizer of Golden Touch lotion with me when I know I'll be doing magic.
Thanks again
Ralph
P.S
Is this the right stuff? http://www.staples.com/Lee-Sortkwik-Fingertip-Moistener-1.75-oz./product_113571
Message: Posted by: ralphs007 (Jan 30, 2011 08:52AM)
Hi Jim
I picked some up yesterday. It works very well,thanks again!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Feb 4, 2011 10:44AM)
TUC walking liberty half dollar available now from our distributor http://www.murphysmagic.com/Product.aspx?id=46930
Message: Posted by: RNK (Feb 4, 2011 12:58PM)
TUC Walking Libert Half Dollar- looking for this- Madhatter Magic Shop has this for $129.00! The cheapest price I have found- anyone else?

RNK
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Feb 5, 2011 06:24PM)
[quote]
On 2011-01-28 15:57, ralphs007 wrote:
Hi Jim
Thanks for the tip,I'll definitely give it a try! I carry a small atomizer of Golden Touch lotion with me when I know I'll be doing magic.
Thanks again
Ralph
P.S
Is this the right stuff? http://www.staples.com/Lee-Sortkwik-Fingertip-Moistener-1.75-oz./product_113571
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Yes, that's it ralph. Sorry for the late post back but the lack of reply notification here makes it difficult to know what threads to check!

Jim
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Feb 5, 2011 06:26PM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-04 13:58, RNK wrote:
TUC Walking Libert Half Dollar- looking for this- Madhatter Magic Shop has this for $129.00! The cheapest price I have found- anyone else?

RNK
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Madhatter usually has super good prices; I would guess that's about the best price you'll find for this, but it's hard to say for sure as you don’t see these advertised generally. The last price I saw for this was on Tango's site - $200 plus S&H!

Jim

Found it again at Tango, though it is listed as a "Morgan". The actual Morgan dollar TUC however is $300 there. http://www.tangomagic.com/product.php?productid=17462&cat=368&page=1
Message: Posted by: sal (Feb 6, 2011 03:03PM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-04 13:58, RNK wrote:
TUC Walking Libert Half Dollar- looking for this- Madhatter Magic Shop has this for $129.00! The cheapest price I have found- anyone else?

RNK
[/quote]

Yep - Just went and looked and is is selling for 129.95 , That price is just insane! Don't want to tip anything but if I were Mr Tango I would put a price Lock on his items- like most -- because with prices like this it really hurts the other shops that carry it-- not to say that Mad Hatter is wrong or anything, Competition is the name of the game-- but to put a NEW product like this up for $... over wholesale is just plain ridiculous.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Feb 6, 2011 03:54PM)
Sal,

Why do you think that $129.95 is high for a heavily gaffed Walking Liberty half dollar coin? Are you kidding? Or do you just not realize how expensive Walkers are nowadays?

Please do a little research and I think you will see differently.

Jim
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Feb 6, 2011 04:54PM)
That's a good price. Do these have round m*****s?
Message: Posted by: jprace (Feb 6, 2011 04:56PM)
I actually believe he is saying it's too low, and the low price at that shop slows down the sales of other shops carrying it at MSRP. A 'price lock' would ensure equal competition between vendors as all their prices would be the same.
Message: Posted by: sal (Feb 6, 2011 05:13PM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-06 17:56, jprace wrote:
I actually believe he is saying it's too low, and the low price at that shop slows down the sales of other shops carrying it at MSRP. A 'price lock' would ensure equal competition between vendors as all their prices would be the same.
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Yes that is exactly what I am talking about, The Price seems to low and Yes I know what Walkers and Morgans go for , One of the reasons for this post,

But My point is as jprace has said "the low price at that shop slows down the sales of other shops carrying it at MSRP. A 'price lock' would ensure equal competition between vendors as all their prices would be the same".
Thank You for understanding.
Sal
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Feb 6, 2011 09:43PM)
But isn't that how competition is supposed to work? Do you guys mean to say that you support "price locks"?

Not me! Price wars are a good thing! Besides, it has a way of working itself out eventually.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Sammy J. (Feb 6, 2011 10:39PM)
I agree with Jim. Free enterprise is what America is all about.
Many will only buy this set because is is affordable. If it was $200.00, they wouldn't buy it.
What is better for the producer? No sales at $200.00 or many sales at $129.00?
I own a lot of coin gaffs, and to me $200.00 is way to pricey for this gaff.

Sammy
Message: Posted by: sal (Feb 7, 2011 08:39AM)
Hi guys,
I see your point, but if you look at the shop side of this -- the producer of the product has been paid by selling an amount of items to a major supplier as mentioned above, to be bought at a wholesale price by either Brick & Mortar shops or online shops so that all can benefit. This is only one example as to how the online craze has hurt the Brick & mortar shops. Agreed free enterprise is what America is all about -- I guess I'm a little biased as our little brick and mortar shop had taken a major hit by online shops that undercut so drastically the prices of just about Anything. It is contributing to the demise of the Live Local Magic shop that people can actually visit. I,m sure if you owned a shop(you may or may not) you would look at it a little differently--I read somewhere here in the Café that 75% of the brick and mortar shops will be out of business due to the ease of buying online and the price cutting competition amongst the online shops that offer things so cheap just to make a sale, or to bring people to there site in hope that if they do not by that item in particular they will find something else that strikes there fancy.I just don't want to see the struggling Brick & Mortar shops that are left fall due to this type of practice. I cannot count how many times someone came into the shop and said " no thanks I can get them cheaper on line' -after 10-20mins of demo's --Just looking at the Ethics of it all Not Just This One Item-- and Yes I agree $200.00 retail is to much for this gaff-- But then again the wholesale price is up there also which leaves little room for profit after ship,ect for the live shop- The worker that buys an item and use it in there work -will pay for it's self after only a couple/few gigs whether bought online or at a shop ---Basically "Price Locks" that more and more producers are implementing were supposed to help stop this very thing and to try to keep the high end gaffs out of the hands of the 'Just curious,so to speak & to help keep the secret-if that mean anything nowadays" Just my opinion --not intended to offend
Thanks
Sal
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Feb 8, 2011 09:48PM)
Hey Sal.

Your opinion is valid. It's just that life tends to move on, whether we like it or not.

The days of a young David Roth working and learning at a brick and mortar shop are becoming quaint. There are no brick and mortar shops in my geographical area, certainly none that are easy to reach. Nowadays, the way to learn is by traveling to conventions and video. Exceptions abound and there still are many brick and mortar shops that offer what you are talking about, but unfortunately they are becoming just that - the exceptions. The upside is that with the internet and conventions, you get to meet or talk to the very best of the field on a frequent basis (many on this forum and the Nothing Up My Sleeve forum), which would have been unheard of only a few decades ago. As an example, since we are in the TUC topic, I have "talked" to Mr. Tango by PM multiple times, getting advice and asking about custom work. He is extremely forthcoming with help, advice and support. Since Mr. Tango is usually in Argentina, such conversations would be difficult over the phone and trying to communicate with him through a middleman shop owner would be impractical at best.

As for minimum prices, there are already quite a few manufacturers that have "price locks" and they don't always work - for example see what happened with the Kohler Ultimate 3-fly and how it was undercut by Magic Makers (Illusion coins).

Your heart's in the right place, though.

Regards,

Alan
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Feb 8, 2011 10:55PM)
Same problem here, unfortunately. I haven't seen a brick-and-mortar magic shop in Philadelphia for about 30 years! It's hard for me to feel as you do, Sal, because in my life what you predict already happened; to me there are no good old-fashioned magic shops. Online shops are all I have now, for quite some time.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Feb 9, 2011 01:06AM)
I suppose the question then may be, "Do we still try to favor things that will help brick and mortar shops stay in business, even if it cannot benefit me directly?"
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Feb 9, 2011 10:26AM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-09 02:06, Chessmann wrote:
I suppose the question then may be, "Do we still try to favor things that will help brick and mortar shops stay in business, even if it cannot benefit me directly?"
[/quote]

Well, I'm not quite sure how you expect that to be accomplished. Ask online what the prices are in local magic shops and then refuse to order any effect online that sells it for less? Surely you are not serious!

Presently I have about three or four regular online magic shops I buy from. I don’t go crazy looking for lower and lower prices but if two of my usual places have the same effect but one is significantly lower, guess which one I buy?

Sorry Chessman but there are already way too many obstacles thrown in the path of we who purchase magic effects, online or at local shops. Deceptive advertising and demo videos; reviews bought and paid for usually via the mutual back-scratching method. How often have you wondered if a given effect was right for you, desperately trying to find out more about the effect - not for negative reasons but purely to see if it is something you should be breaking your magic-spending budget on? How many items have you purchased only to discover that the effect is not quite what it was marketed as? And then of course there are no refunds because you now know the deep dark secret of that effect! I have a closet and a half filled with such stuff.

Sorry but buying at the best price available is non-supportive? Give me a break!!

Jim
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Feb 9, 2011 03:58PM)
My preference is to support the manufacturer/artist/creator anyway, not necessarily the magic reseller. If I can, I buy from Lassen, Schoolcraft, Mr. Tango, Mark Mason, etc. directly.

Regards,

Alan
Message: Posted by: sal (Feb 9, 2011 06:00PM)
Thanks everyone for the input and I agree with a-lot of what all have said, I believe that "Magic" is truly moving forward due to the internet and online shops and such, Giving some, that might not have found the Passion otherwise, -This has been an education for me -that's for sure and I cannot argue with the with facts --online is the Next Big Thing so to speak- and the local shop IS going away, in most places,It's just a shame. but I understand the thinking behind the best offer/same product idea, but I to try to buy from the Creator of an effect for my personal use, as I understand just how much work,research etc, that goes into it.
This has been a fun conservation and thanks all.
Sal
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Feb 9, 2011 11:34PM)
Can someone send an older 1/2 dollar (or other coins) TUC to Mr. Tango to retrofit with the newer round mag**t?

What would the cost be - or can someone do it themselves?
Message: Posted by: funsway (Feb 10, 2011 08:26AM)
He is starting a European tour but I am sure he will answer an email request
Message: Posted by: DGabbay (Feb 14, 2011 03:46PM)
I just purchased a T.U.C. and at first I wasn't to impressed but it has slowly grew on me. I just have one issue with it. And that is that it sounds nothing like a real coin. I cannot flip/throw it in the air because it surely gives off that tiny metal sound. I can only imagine that this may be the most difficult aspect to overcome when a gimmick like this is created. I have the same issue when flipping a 3cf in the air. Do any of these "multiplying coin gimmicks" when nested as one, sound like just one coin when it falls from a flip? I don't believe I have a defective set but rather it is the reality of such a gimmick. What are your thoughts?
Message: Posted by: HerbLarry (Feb 14, 2011 04:37PM)
Don't flip it.
Message: Posted by: inigmntoya (Feb 14, 2011 04:56PM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-14 16:46, DGabbay wrote:
Do any of these "multiplying coin gimmicks" when nested as one, sound like just one coin when it falls from a flip? I don't believe I have a defective set but rather it is the reality of such a gimmick. What are your thoughts?
[/quote]

I know of no gaffed coin that sounds like a real one. If it's not a single solid hunk of metal it's just not going to "ring" like one.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Feb 15, 2011 02:02PM)
In "T.U.C. Appreciation" many methods for Switching In/Out the Gaff are discussed including ways to ovecome the "click" problem. Proper handling can give the illusion that all coins are dropped, clinked and shown to be normal. For example, there is a "Bounch Pass" technique in which several coins are tossed into the left hand and clink against each other, except that ...
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Feb 17, 2011 07:40AM)
Yes, I agree the sound of TUC is different to a regular coin and unfortunately this problem is common of any no solid coin. But is not difficult to avoid this problem. As Funsway say in the book there are many ways for that.

I will be in Blackpool magic convention with my stand. After the congress I will two lectures in Spain: Barcelona El Rey de la Magia February 22 and in Reus February 25. Then in Paris I will give a lecture and a work shop at Henry Mayol Magic School, lecture March 1 and work shop march 5.

Bye
Message: Posted by: DGabbay (Feb 18, 2011 12:05PM)
I agree, in the sense that many things are possible to mask the sound. Though laymen probably do not notice, when you have a T.U.C. and several other coins and jingle them, the sound is flat and has a diminished ring than that which silver coins would have. Maybe this is a bigger issue when mixing silver gaffs with real silver coins than mixing clad gimmicks with clad coins. Of course proper routineing can overcome this problem, however the only thing I am truly critical of is performing a simple French drop with my T.U.C. Half the time the gimmick will click and rock creating a very tiny audible sound. Hand washing and things evolving just the single coin are hopeless, unless you have music loud music playing for your audience. However tiny that sound is, the fact is, single coins don't sound like that. The T.U.C. is a great gimmick but it is not the best thing since the shell. It is just a stepping stone for more superior practical gimmicks of the future. I mean this with all do respect and I like the way Mr. Tango is taking coin magic and can't wait to see what new gimmick he comes out with 10 years from now.
Message: Posted by: Bambu (Feb 22, 2011 10:30PM)
I wonder if a regular or slipp*** expan*** Sh*** will fit a Kennedy or Ike T.U.C.
Message: Posted by: Hare (Feb 22, 2011 10:40PM)
I believe Mr. Tango once mentioned the possibility of a combined TUC/SS gimmick being introduced.
Message: Posted by: jbz (Feb 26, 2011 09:47PM)
For those that have purchased the Walking Liberty TUC, is the coin fairly soft? Does it have a nice amount of patina on it or is it more of an uncirculated condition?
Message: Posted by: ljsviol (Feb 27, 2011 03:37PM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-26 22:47, jbz wrote:
For those that have purchased the Walking Liberty TUC, is the coin fairly soft? Does it have a nice amount of patina on it or is it more of an uncirculated condition?
[/quote]

jbz
I've got a Walking Liberty TUC on the way; once it arrives, I'll let you know how it seems to me (a data point of only one, of course).

Larry S.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Feb 27, 2011 11:22PM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-22 23:40, Hare wrote:
I believe Mr. Tango once mentioned the possibility of a combined TUC/SS gimmick being introduced.
[/quote]

Some time ago I purchased a sh****d s***l to match my Morgan TUC. Mr. Tango sent me a sh****d slippery Sam instead (he apparently believes that the SS works better with his TUC). My only complaint is that the SS is somewhat looser than I expected (probably an unfair comparison with my vacuum fit Lassen gaffs), and given the looser fit, SS is probably the better bet. The SS matches my Uncirc TUC quite well.

FYI you probably will need to get this directly from Mr. Tango and Mr. Tango is very responsive to PM's here on the Café.

Regards,

Alan
Message: Posted by: ljsviol (Mar 7, 2011 04:59PM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-26 22:47, jbz wrote:
For those that have purchased the Walking Liberty TUC, is the coin fairly soft? Does it have a nice amount of patina on it or is it more of an uncirculated condition?
[/quote]

jbz,
My Walking Liberty TUC arrived and I've had a chance to work with it a bit. To answer your above questions:
1. 'softness' - I'm not very experienced here, but to my ears the TUC I have is as quiet (or quieter) than the real (and well-worn) Walking Liberty (WL) halves I have, in terms of coins speaking against each other. I think the TUC is a bit lighter in weight, which seems to make it easier to move quietly, as well.

2. Patina: definitely not UNC condition. Enough wear on the face so the the Liberty figure is smoothed down a bit; the eagle on the reverse has some wear, but still a good bit of detail on the wings. My real WL coins have a lot more tarnish in the crevices; the TUC is cleaner.

Of course, probably every coin is slightly different. I'm pleased with this one. And it works well. -)

By the way, it has a round ... you-know.

Larry S.
Message: Posted by: Lawrence O (Mar 7, 2011 08:30PM)
Tango's TUC is a gem. Funsway's book of routines using the TUC (on Lulu.com) inclusdes more routine than we will ever be able to perform.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 21, 2011 07:49PM)
Hello Friends

I will in San Francisco May 1 and 2, I will be available to give a lecture there. Let me know if somebody has interest.

Bye

Mr Tango
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Apr 20, 2011 03:07PM)
Hello friend, next week I'll be lecturing at 4 F with my TUC, somebody go there ?
Message: Posted by: hbenod (Apr 24, 2011 07:52AM)
Mr. Tango:

Are you planning to attend "Magic Live" in Las Vegas as a dealer? I'd love to see you there and see personally some of your creations.

Thanks,

hbenod
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (May 11, 2011 04:48PM)
Sorry but I'm not going to Magic Live. I was in 4 F and I'm planing another tour lecture for next year.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (May 24, 2011 01:25PM)
Hello friends,

I can believe the quantity of people entered to this post, more than 44.000 view, I think we can ask to Steve Brooks that open an area exclusivelly for TUC users. That would be great.

I receive some questions about routines using more than one TUC. I have to say that I use only one in 99 per cent of the routines that I perform, but if you want to produce a large quantity of coins as final of your routine, you can use 10 TUC and 20 coins will appear so so so easy.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jun 17, 2011 01:30PM)
This is an interview for Murphy's TV about TUC.

http://tv.murphysmagic.com/Video.aspx?id=204
Message: Posted by: Sammy J. (Jun 17, 2011 07:00PM)
Mr. Tango,
It is obvious that you created a masterpiece with TUC. I congratulate you on a brilliant invention!

Sammy
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jun 19, 2011 10:47PM)
Dear Sammy,

I don't know if I invented a masterpiece, but I'm sure that you create a incredible post, it has more than 45.000 visits.
Message: Posted by: FlightRisk (Jun 24, 2011 03:52PM)
Should the TUC allow the move whether the coin is in head/tails, double headed configuration? Mine will only work with the head in. Obviously the rounded relief on the head rocks perfectly against the thing is it supposed to rock against. But with the tail in, no go. Obviously the surface of the eagle is more flat, almost concave. In fact, if I put the inner piece on the table face up and press, I can see that it moves down just like the [ does if you do the adjustment. I tried the adjustment procedure on the [ and that makes the face in effect too loose and the face out effect still not work, but at least gives me some clearance so I can get my fingernail in there to get it out. The reason I ask all this is that I thought the DVD gave a routine that showed a double headed effect.

Also, due to the principle involved, should the gaff be stored together or apart? I don't want to reduce it's power.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Jun 24, 2011 11:16PM)
[quote]
On 2011-06-24 16:52, FlightRisk wrote:
Also, due to the principle involved, should the gaff be stored together or apart? I don't want to reduce it's power.
[/quote]

To answer your question, I did a search and came up with this interesting post:
[quote]
I've several magnets - the phrase "keeper" is often used to ensure that the magnet doesn't lose it's strength.

For example I've a very powerful magnet for my archery kit (to test the straightness of arrows). That's over 20 years old and still as strong.

Coins, on the other hand, seem to leak. I overcome this by periodically using a very strong magnet (with the right polarity) stuck against the weaker magnets in the coins/okito box etc.

My Gibson Coin unique and nest of coins is kept with a "keeper" and never let me down, where recently I've found a old half dollar (PK Coin) that seems to have lost is magnetic properties.

A few hours next to the very strong magnet and all worked fine again.

Depends on what the manufacture used for the magnetic inserts - sometimes (in my experience) the magnets are inferior (perhaps by design) quality and lose their magnetism over time.

You can also reduce magnetic pull by heat, dropping them (this can cause magnetic dipoles to simply mis-align - at a molecular level - sounds weird - but look up a basic physic book and you'll find how to reduce magnetic pull - it doesn't shatter - just the nature of magnetic materials.
[/quote]

I was looking for a different thread, but instead found something I didn't know.

The thread the above came from is here: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=185257&forum=202&16

Alan
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Jun 24, 2011 11:24PM)
I second Sammy's sentiments, Mr. Tango. The TUC was a flash of true brilliance.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jun 26, 2011 05:59AM)
[quote]
On 2011-06-24 16:52, FlightRisk wrote:
Should the TUC allow the move whether the coin is in head/tails, double headed configuration? Mine will only work with the head in. Obviously the rounded relief on the head rocks perfectly against the thing is it supposed to rock against. But with the tail in, no go. Obviously the surface of the eagle is more flat, almost concave. In fact, if I put the inner piece on the table face up and press, I can see that it moves down just like the [ does if you do the adjustment. I tried the adjustment procedure on the [ and that makes the face in effect too loose and the face out effect still not work, but at least gives me some clearance so I can get my fingernail in there to get it out. The reason I ask all this is that I thought the DVD gave a routine that showed a double headed effect.

Also, due to the principle involved, should the gaff be stored together or apart? I don't want to reduce it's power.
[/quote]

The are numerous effects in T.U.C. Appreciation is which the Leaf parity is switched. This not only works Ok but is essential to some sleights. Personally, I have never had a problem getting the Leaf out either way.

PM me if you continue to have problems.
Message: Posted by: PhilMagicGuy (Jul 8, 2011 03:08PM)
This thread was a huge help and motivating factor in picking up one a TUC for myself. Thanks to all. I've got a nice little routine worked out (roughly-so, I've only had this a week) and will hopefully post a video link soon.
Message: Posted by: mysterious_guy (Jul 16, 2011 11:54AM)
Does anyone have any experiences with the £2 T.U.C? Is the insert deceptive enough?

Also, am I right in thinking I can combine this with a regular expanded shell? Or do I have to order a special shell to fit this coin?
Message: Posted by: Father Photius (Jul 19, 2011 02:15PM)
I bought a dollar TUC off of Joe Morgar at IBM convention after reading all about it here. Glad I did, great coin. Going to work very well for me.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Jul 20, 2011 10:48AM)
Huh - I didn't realize Joe sold TUC's. Anything special about these? Or just handling them as a regular dealer?

Thank you.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jul 31, 2011 09:14AM)
Yes, Joe sell our coins.
Dear Father, you should see my routine about the Judas betrayal, I produce the 30 silver denarius using TUC.
Message: Posted by: mrpiper (Aug 6, 2011 03:54PM)
Mr. Tango, I can only add to the MANY people here who say "Thank you!" for all of your hard work. You have made my strolling / on the spot magic SO much more fun with your T.U.C. products!
Message: Posted by: bowers (Aug 22, 2011 06:49PM)
MR TANGO IS MAKING ME A REVERSE COPPER SILVER TUC
I HAVE SEVERAL TUCS AND ABOUT EVERY GIMMICK COIN THERE ARE.
BUT THE TUC IS THE BEST GIMMICK COIN OF THE CENTURY
IN MY OPINION.THANKS MR TANGO
TODD BOWERS
Message: Posted by: NexusMagicShop (Aug 22, 2011 08:38PM)
TUC is Brilliant and nothing compares... It's like comparing snowboarding on Xbox vs the real thing!
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Aug 23, 2011 12:12PM)
Well I've made a decision...after reading this post, I'm thinking about making the purchase of a TUC in a half dollar coin!
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Aug 23, 2011 04:03PM)
[quote]
On 2011-08-23 13:12, Trooper11040 wrote:
Well I've made a decision...after reading this post, I'm thinking about making the purchase of a TUC in a half dollar coin!
[/quote]

Don't 'think' about it fella - do it!

You can sell most of your other gimmicked coins on ebaY to fund your purchase; as with a TUC, you can just about do every coin effect in the book. ;)

Greatest magical prop I've EVER purchased.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Aug 23, 2011 04:09PM)
HA TROOPER
YOU WONT REGRET IT.
YOU WILL BE VERY PLEASED
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Aug 23, 2011 09:11PM)
Ok...I'm convinced...I'll do it! Can't wait!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 24, 2011 01:20PM)
Hello TUC friends,

I will be shooting a new DVD called TUC Miracles in a couple of weeks. I will include routines such as:

3 fly coin
coins thru table
coin across
coins production
matrix reverse
one coin routine
signed coins to a fruit

So, if you want to participate in my DVD, you can do it. Just send me a video in the best possible conditions in .avi and if I can I will put it in the final edition. It would be great to have in my DVD many of yours routines.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Aug 24, 2011 01:40PM)
Will this new DVD be distributed with newly purchased TUCs? Also will it be available otherwise? For purchase?

Thank you Mr. Tango!

Jim
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 25, 2011 11:05AM)
The idea is to sell only the DVD
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Aug 26, 2011 12:56AM)
Sign me up.
Message: Posted by: mrpiper (Aug 30, 2011 04:47PM)
Mr. Tango

Will you be making T.U.C. in a Morgan Dollar? I already have morgans would like to add this to my collection.

Thanks,

Piper
Message: Posted by: Tommytallica (Aug 30, 2011 04:51PM)
There you go.


https://www.tangomagic.com/product.php?productid=17461&cat=0&page=1
Message: Posted by: mrpiper (Aug 31, 2011 02:51PM)
Thank you Tommy...
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Sep 6, 2011 09:54AM)
Yes, I have TUC morgan dollar and walking liberty in stock
Message: Posted by: maxnew40 (Sep 15, 2011 11:09AM)
I just placed an order for a TUC in the English Penny format. (I do some renaissance magic and my persona is English, the coin is not period but coins in general are).

After all the great reviews I am really looking forward to getting this little gem.

-Max
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Sep 15, 2011 10:03PM)
[quote]
On 2011-09-15 12:09, maxnew40 wrote:
I just placed an order for a TUC in the English Penny format. (I do some renaissance magic and my persona is English, the coin is not period but coins in general are).

After all the great reviews I am really looking forward to getting this little gem.

-Max
[/quote]

Great idea. You made the perfect choice. The TUC is very robust and can stand some abuse (unlike tight sh**l coin sets).

Also, using English coins (hopefully with a little patina on them) will look very "period" - especially as English pennies have changed very little in size over the years (at least since 1672 when they began to be made in copper rather than silver). Of course, since decimalization they are quite a bit smaller, but the fact that modern English pennies are now so much different from what you would see as recently as the sixties (if I am not mistaken large format pennies were made up to 1972?) makes almost any large English pennies seem ancient by comparison. This is especially true for American audiences since we changed our penny size from large to small back in the eighteen hundreds.

The fact that a "penny" is so big lends itself to some great patter about how much you can buy with just a penny in "your" time.

Regards,

Alan
Message: Posted by: maxnew40 (Sep 19, 2011 11:40AM)
Thanks BanzaiMagic, I like your thinking about the English Penny. I tried some reproduction medieval coins but the reproduction coins I tried were made out very light metal and just don't feel right.

-Max
Message: Posted by: jconstantine (Sep 19, 2011 09:04PM)
Just ordered a tuc in half dollar and Cooper silver half dollar. Hope it's as good as everyone says.
Message: Posted by: maxnew40 (Sep 20, 2011 08:33AM)
My TUC arrived last night. Wow! It is a real nice gimmick. Mine needed a little bit of adjustment to get it working smooth, but the instructions for adjusting solved that little issue. I should be able to do some cool stuff with this thing.

-Max
Message: Posted by: jconstantine (Sep 22, 2011 04:43PM)
Mine arrived today and wow what cool idea. Only one complaint a little noisy when separating. But a little misdirection should handle that. A- for me only because of the noise.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Sep 22, 2011 05:42PM)
[quote]
On 2011-09-22 17:43, jconstantine wrote:
Mine arrived today and wow what cool idea. Only one complaint a little noisy when separating. But a little misdirection should handle that. A- for me only because of the noise.
[/quote]

Your complaint is not unique. There are several posts in the previous pages of this thread discussing problems of noise when opening. My Morgan TUC was very nearly silent from the moment I received it (perhaps because of the high silver content in the coin), but I did have some noise issues when I first used my clad Kennedy half TUC. Although routining is a fine solution to the problem, other solutions have been suggested to solve this problem. To save you time, I have located Mr. Tango's advice on adjustments:

[quote]
There are two ways to adjust a T.U.C.
One is the [method] we included in the pack, [which is to gently press on] the Kennedy face.
The other one is the way that my friend Fantasio discovered few days ago. He put a little square mask[ing] tape in the center of the magnet, it [diminished the ma*****c] force and the coin opened incredibl[y] easy.
[/quote]

For the tape option, several people have used mouse tape. Others have used the teflon circles made by Tango (properly trimmed).

You may find that the noise diminishes with use. I am not sure whether this is because you get a better feel for how to do the "move" silently the more you do it or because the edges smooth down a bit with wear. Whichever, my experience is that the noise issue definitely improves over time even if you make no adjustments to the TUC.

Hope that helps.

Regards,

Alan
Message: Posted by: AWESOME (Sep 22, 2011 05:53PM)
[quote]
On 2011-09-22 17:43, jconstantine wrote:
Mine arrived today and wow what cool idea. Only one complaint a little noisy when separating. But a little misdirection should handle that. A- for me only because of the noise.
[/quote]

I clear my throat to cover the noise. It's natural, and being that the spectators aren't expecting a noise, it goes un-noticed.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Sep 23, 2011 05:35AM)
The noise problem seesm to be related only to the "Front" Opening Method and not with the alternative Opening Methods such as "Bottom." The ussue might be that the first is Synchonous (happens as part of the immediate displayed action), whereas the others are Asynchronous, often occuring when some other misdirective action is occuring. Thus, any noise is only a problem because the spectator's attention is focused on the coin at the moment of separation.

This is true of many other coin effects such as the Okito Box - and therefor not a limitation of the TUC specifically.

The book T.U.C. Appreciation adds many effects of an Asynchronous nature in which no comment about noise has ever been offered.

The key is to look at your presentaion and the totality of motions such as "In Transit" when considering noise, flash, click, etc. in any effect. I used to be concerned about getting a coin into a vanishing clip. When I quit worring about it -- so did the audience.
Message: Posted by: jconstantine (Sep 23, 2011 08:46AM)
[quote]
On 2011-09-23 06:35, funsway wrote:
The noise problem seesm to be related only to the "Front" Opening Method and not with the alternative Opening Methods such as "Bottom." The ussue might be that the first is Synchonous (happens as part of the immediate displayed action), whereas the others are Asynchronous, often occuring when some other misdirective action is occuring. Thus, any noise is only a problem because the spectator's attention is focused on the coin at the moment of separation.

This is true of many other coin effects such as the Okito Box - and therefor not a limitation of the TUC specifically.

The book T.U.C. Appreciation adds many effects of an Asynchronous nature in which no comment about noise has ever been offered.

Good advice thank you!

The key is to look at your presentaion and the totality of motions such as "In Transit" when considering noise, flash, click, etc. in any effect. I used to be concerned about getting a coin into a vanishing clip. When I quit worring about it -- so did the audience.
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: PAUL K (Sep 23, 2011 12:12PM)
Did the new DVD come out yet.

Paul
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Sep 28, 2011 01:43PM)
Not yet, right now I'm concentrating in an new reel called T.U.R (tango ultimate reel) that will be introduced at the market in November, so I don't have time to shout, but I promise to launch TUC DVD this year. After finish with the producing process of the reel I will make a DVD for the reel and the TUC Miracles DVD.
Message: Posted by: jconstantine (Sep 28, 2011 09:03PM)
Just ordered another tuc in Ike this time. Can't wait.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Sep 28, 2011 09:16PM)
[quote]
On 2011-09-28 14:43, Mr. Tango wrote:
Not yet, right now I'm concentrating in an new reel called T.U.R (tango ultimate reel) that will be introduced at the market in November, so I don't have time to shout, but I promise to launch TUC DVD this year. After finish with the producing process of the reel I will make a DVD for the reel and the TUC Miracles DVD.
[/quote]

OK, that has me interested. What makes it an "Ultimate" reel?

Regards,

Alan
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Oct 1, 2011 01:46PM)
I was one year working in a reel, just that, I hope market accept my reel, the most important thing for me is that every magician an open the reel, change the thread and fix any issue so easy. We are now making the first production in exclusive for Murphy, but I think this a subjet for other section.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Oct 5, 2011 06:46PM)
[quote]
On 2011-10-01 14:46, Mr. Tango wrote:
I think this a subjet for other section.
[/quote]

Probably so. When you are ready, please post on latest and greatest. In the meantime, price?

Thanks,

Alan
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Oct 6, 2011 11:18AM)
Price U$D 89. Yes, it will be cheaper for his incredible quality, just wait to see one. Some of this advantage:
. Easy to use
· Efficient
· Effective
· Error free

Just wait 30 days more. T.U.R will be a revolution as T.U.C was in coin magic.
Message: Posted by: Calvin Tong (Oct 7, 2011 03:00AM)
Mr Tango. nice Kartis Okito box. You should release a dollar size. :o)
Message: Posted by: volto (Oct 7, 2011 03:59AM)
I second that. The Kartis box has some great innovations. I love the 20 coin production; a dollar sized box would be excellent!
Nothing to do with TUC though. Also, is it possible to release a non-'Boston' Kartis box? I.e. exactly the same, just without the 'Boston' feature?
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Oct 11, 2011 11:52AM)
I will open a post only for Kartis box
Message: Posted by: bowers (Oct 11, 2011 03:41PM)
Mr tango
when do you expect your tuc dvd to come out for sale.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Oct 14, 2011 01:06PM)
After Christmas, I hope !!
Message: Posted by: Shanlip (Oct 17, 2011 04:56AM)
Mr. Tango

Is T.U.C avaliable in Australian Coins? Like the 20c
Message: Posted by: Shanlip (Oct 20, 2011 06:43AM)
Thanks Mr. Tango,

I have responded to your PM.
Message: Posted by: Sir Richard (Nov 8, 2011 06:57AM)
After reading all of the great remarks on the TUC I bought the "IKE" version. I will admit that I was curious after reading all of the posts and was emboldened by the strong testimonials and reviews. I was not, however, "blown-away" by the gaffed coin. I think it's good, not great. There are some problems with it that will require some special handling and I wouldn't dare use if for extreme close-up; not with the audiences that I get. I see why the video shows the magician moving fast. I feel that it's a bit over-rated and a tad over-priced. Without giving anything away if anybody wants any further info on what I perceive as problems PM me and I'll tell you. I had no problem with "adjusting" the coin as the instructions on how to do so are included in the small folder that the coin is enveloped in. I suggest that anybody buying this coin do the adjustment right away.

Sir Richard.
Message: Posted by: JoshuaD (Nov 8, 2011 11:55AM)
I was wondering if there is a difference in the quality of the silver versions more so the walking liberty? It is an expensive gaff and was wondering if it is any good for the silver coins?
Message: Posted by: bowers (Nov 8, 2011 07:20PM)
Not sure if I understand your question.
but the non silver versions work just as good
as the silver ones do.its just what presentation
you wont to present.
todd
Message: Posted by: Shanlip (Nov 8, 2011 07:48PM)
Sir Richard,

I have sent you a PM
Message: Posted by: DollarThief (Nov 17, 2011 06:57PM)
I got a U.S. quarter dollar T.U.C and managed to lose it almost immediately. I just spent an hour looking for it. Finally found it attached to the leg of a metal table. That's not the kind of vanish I want to perform.

In spite of that setback, it's an excellent gimmick.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Nov 17, 2011 08:30PM)
Ha the vanish might not have been so good.
but the reappearence I'm sure was great.
I'm glad you found it dollartheif.
todd
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Nov 17, 2011 11:06PM)
Good find, Dollar Thief! I swear, nothing can hide from you like a coin - nasty little creeps!

Jim
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Nov 25, 2011 09:28AM)
Hello Friends,

I'll be lecturing for England in February, I have the following lectures confirmed;

Feb 14 Fort Valley
Feb 20 Leicester
Feb 22 Zodiac Magic Circle
Feb 23 Surrey
Feb 29 Newcastle
March 1 Darlington.

I have free between Feb 24 and Feb 29, can you book some lecture in your city please contact Sean Loban (redzedents@gmail.com) he is organizing my tour.

Bye.
Message: Posted by: Sir Richard (Dec 3, 2011 10:36PM)
I sent mine back for a store credit; didn't care for it all!

Sir Richard.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Dec 3, 2011 11:07PM)
Wow Richard
your about the only one I heard that from.
What was your cons on this if I may ask?
todd
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Dec 4, 2011 08:48AM)
I'm similarly amazed - I've got 2 versions of the T.U.C. and along with the Kartis Okito Box, they are all that I now use to do around 95% of the coin magic that's out there.

Granted I can't bang one into a beer bottle (although I can get the $1/4 into a can!) nor push a fag through the middle; but this one gaff does literally everything else that you'll ever need.

What didn't you like about it Richard......please don't say the fact it requires a little practice (joking!). ;)
Message: Posted by: Sir Richard (Dec 4, 2011 01:15PM)
My cons are: Over-rated, over-priced, I can do everything that the T.U.C. does with my flipper and expanded shell, it talks, and also can't be used for extreme close up. I showed it to Nathan Kranzo and he just laughed. I also showed it to my club members and mentor, none of them were interested either. I will also state that the T.U.C. was hyped pretty strongly on this forum but was not up to my expectations. I predict that the T.U.C. will NOT be in EVERY Magician's pocket.

Sir Richard.
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Dec 4, 2011 01:53PM)
But what was it about it that you really didn't like? ;)
Message: Posted by: Sir Richard (Dec 4, 2011 04:20PM)
[quote]
On 2011-12-04 14:53, Merc Man wrote:
But what was it about it that you really didn't like? ;)
[/quote]I really can't say anymore without giving away the secret.

Sir Richard.
Message: Posted by: Sir Richard (Dec 4, 2011 04:25PM)
[quote]
On 2011-12-04 09:48, Merc Man wrote:
I'm similarly amazed - I've got 2 versions of the T.U.C. and along with the Kartis Okito Box, they are all that I now use to do around 95% of the coin magic that's out there.[/quote]

First, I don't do 95% of all the coin magic that's out there. 2nd, why would you need an expensive gaff like the T.U.C. if you already have an expanded shell and a good quality flipper coin? Even more, if you're really a good coin man...or woman, why would you even need to use gaff coins at all? There are some on here that do tricks like "Scotch & Soda" with non-gaffed coins. I believe that Bill Palmer is one of them. anyway, I used the credit to get some other much-needed stuff.

Sir Richard.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Dec 4, 2011 05:40PM)
[quote]
On 2011-12-04 14:15, Sir Richard wrote:
My cons are: Over-rated, over-priced, I can do everything that the T.U.C. does with my flipper and expanded shell, it talks, and also can't be used for extreme close up.
[/quote]

Almost everything you can do with a flipper and expanded shell can also be done with regular coins, it just requires greater skill. That's the thing about a TUC - it's the great equalizer - almost every move is easier with a TUC (once you get the hang of it). For example, try flipping a coin with a shell on it. By the way, if your TUC is talking, you are not using it right. Your point about extreme close-up is well taken - the leaf is very thin and some routines and angles are problematic - particularly if you work surrounded. If you need a thicker leaf, this is not the gaff for you.

[quote]
I showed it to Nathan Kranzo and he just laughed. I also showed it to my club members and mentor, none of them were interested either. I will also state that the T.U.C. was hyped pretty strongly on this forum but was not up to my expectations. I predict that the T.U.C. will NOT be in EVERY Magician's pocket.
Sir Richard.
[/quote]

I don't think that a TUC should be in EVERY Magician's pocket. My friend Marion certainly doesn't need one. You probably wouldn't need or want a Johnson's Magnetic Silver & Copper either. The person who should buy a TUC is the magician who wants to do spectacular looking effects without having to have Nathan Kranzo's skill level.

The great value to the TUC is its innovation, which is the life-blood of magic. Mr. Tango's TUC is a big step forward, but as you noted, it is not perfect. I am sure that in the future the leaf will be made thicker. But you have to admit that it is really neat to be living in a time when the TUC, Triple Threat, UWC, Cerberus, OXF, Split coin, locking slippery sam, Ambivalence, Swadling's next generation flipper, Miracle Chip, are all being created by some of the most creative and talented craftsmen we could hope to have working on coin gaffs. It's like having 10 Dushecks or 10 Eddie Gibsons all working at the same time, challenging each other, raising standards and producing better quality and unbelievably innovative gaffs. Not every new gaff will be to your liking, but you gotta like the direction this is going.

Alan
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Dec 4, 2011 05:54PM)
[quote]
On 2011-12-04 17:20, Sir Richard wrote:
[quote]
On 2011-12-04 14:53, Merc Man wrote:
But what was it about it that you really didn't like? ;)
[/quote]I really can't say anymore without giving away the secret.

Sir Richard.
[/quote]

I am fairly sure that Merc meant that to be funny, at least I found it so. :D
Message: Posted by: bowers (Dec 4, 2011 06:58PM)
Man I love mine. It's so versitle,
and it can be performed at close range.
Just have to watch your angles.
todd
Message: Posted by: Sir Richard (Dec 4, 2011 09:20PM)
One thing I noticed before ordering mine was that none were being offered for sale in the "sale forum"...until just lately, guess that somebody else didn't care for it either.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=444432&forum=76&0

On the plus side, I ordered several other gaffs from Tango that neither Johnson nor Roy Kueppers sells, and the DVD that comes with them, "The Tangopedia of Gaffed Coins" is a great resource!

Sir Richard.
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Dec 5, 2011 05:57AM)
[quote]
On 2011-12-04 18:54, BanzaiMagic wrote:
I am fairly sure that Merc meant that to be funny, at least I found it so. :D
[/quote]

Correct mate - I was actually; but poor old Sir R. seems to be having such a rant over it, I don't think he could see beyond my comment because of the red mist!

To pick up your other point Sir Richard - why would I want a T.U.C. if I've got a flipper and a shell? Well that's just my point old chap - I don't have a flipper or a shell. I've got a T.U.C. so therefore, I've got one gaffed coin rather than having two.

As for the 'leaf' aspect. Well using the 1/4 and 1/2 dollar versions in the UK DOESN'T cause any problem - as people aren't used to these coins anyway. I've also performed the 'coin in can' routine quite a few times now and the thickness of the coin has not been questioned. People over here aren't aware of how these coins feel as they aren't used in everyday life. Maybe, if you are in the USA, use a £2 or Euro version? Just food for thought.

I stick by my guns 100% - the T.U.C. is (in my opinion) the greatest gaffed coin to EVER hit the market and the best investment I've ever made in over 30 years involved with magic - and my God I've bought some cr*p in the past (the Alida gimmick stands out; along with a pile of other stuff I bought from Mark Mason's flyers years ago!). All part of life's rich learning curve I guess.

Finally, I really don't give two hoots whether a T.U.C. will appear in every magician's pocket. I just know that one is in mine - for life! ;)
Message: Posted by: Sir Richard (Dec 5, 2011 06:47AM)
[quote]
On 2011-12-05 06:57, Merc Man wrote:
[quote]
On 2011-12-04 18:54, BanzaiMagic wrote:
I am fairly sure that Merc meant that to be funny, at least I found it so. :D
[/quote]

Correct mate - I was actually; but poor old Sir R. seems to be having such a rant over it, I don't think he could see beyond my comment because of the red mist!

To pick up your other point Sir Richard - why would I want a T.U.C. if I've got a flipper and a shell? Well that's just my point old chap - I don't have a flipper or a shell. I've got a T.U.C. so therefore, I've got one gaffed coin rather than having two.

As for the 'leaf' aspect. Well using the 1/4 and 1/2 dollar versions in the UK DOESN'T cause any problem - as people aren't used to these coins anyway. I've also performed the 'coin in can' routine quite a few times now and the thickness of the coin has not been questioned. People over here aren't aware of how these coins feel as they aren't used in everyday life. Maybe, if you are in the USA, use a £2 or Euro version? Just food for thought.

I stick by my guns 100% - the T.U.C. is (in my opinion) the greatest gaffed coin to EVER hit the market and the best investment I've ever made in over 30 years involved with magic - and my God I've bought some cr*p in the past (the Alida gimmick stands out; along with a pile of other stuff I bought from Mark Mason's flyers years ago!). All part of life's rich learning curve I guess.

Finally, I really don't give two hoots whether a T.U.C. will appear in every magician's pocket. I just know that one is in mine - for life! ;)
[/quote]Well, Merc, I understand that you were meant to be funny and apologize for any offense I may have caused. Enjoy your gaff, Magicians have different tastes and I'm sure yours are different than mine. I just don't think that the T.U.C. was worth the price. My coach and mentor in magic just shook his head but then he uses Lassen gaffs. My main concern was the way that the coin was hyped as being better than sliced bread. Mr. Tango predicted that the TUC would be in "every magicians pocket." Like I said, I can do anything on the DVD with both my expanded shell and flipper and NOT have a "slim leaf." I can use my gaffs for extreme close-up and even hand the "insert" out before or afterwards, something you can't do with the TUC. I find that limits it's believability. Just my "duos centavos" my amigo.

Sir Richard.
Message: Posted by: Sir Richard (Dec 5, 2011 07:01AM)
[quote]
To pick up your other point Sir Richard - why would I want a T.U.C. if I've got a flipper and a shell? Well that's just my point old chap - I don't have a flipper or a shell. I've got a T.U.C. so therefore, I've got one gaffed coin rather than having two.

Maybe, if you are in the USA, use a £2 or Euro version? Just food for thought.

...and my God I've bought some cr*p in the past (the Alida gimmick stands out; along with a pile of other stuff I bought from Mark Mason's flyers years ago!). All part of life's rich learning curve I guess.
[/quote]

1st, Merc, would you say that the TUC should be viewed as a replacement for the flipper and sell?

2nd I use common US coins such as the Kennedy half dollar and the "Ike" silver dollar exclusively. All my gaffs are congruent with these two types of coins. I may do something with Chinese coins sometime in the future, but haven't done so as of yet.

3rd, just to be clear, I don't think that the TUC is cr*p, just over-priced and over-rated. I just don't believe that it's worth the asking price for the reasons that I gave. If you are happy with it, great! I'm sure you "kill" with it! Glad to hear it.

Sir Richard.

Sir Richard.
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Dec 5, 2011 12:35PM)
Sir Richard,

Sorry it wasn't to your liking mate; as I said, I've bought more than enough rubbish over the years - now thankfully all sold off! ;)

As for 'kill with it'. Well I put that comment in the same league as magicians that 'fry audiences'.....all I try and do old chap is entertain people and, if I also raise a smile, then that's a bonus.

Just a question fella - what version did you have? Just curious.

Oh and by the way there is no need whatsoever to apologize; you didn't cause any offense my friend.
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Dec 5, 2011 04:03PM)
Just a point Sir Dick regarding the price aspect that you mentioned.

Think what has to be done to produce a T.U.C. - especially the work on the leaf - which is, in effect, 2 coins with a mag. shim!

Lot of lathe work there fella. ;)
Message: Posted by: bowers (Dec 5, 2011 06:23PM)
The TUC Ike I bought at penguin magic
was only 15 bucks more than a Johnson shell.
I know one thing, Richard, you might hand out
the insert but you will not hand out the flipper
or shell or in some cases have to palm it.If
your doing a two coin to one coin. I know all
do not share the love I have for this coin
like I do and I have other gaff coins too.
And also love them but, if I could only
keep one it would be the TUC.
todd
Message: Posted by: Sir Richard (Dec 5, 2011 11:19PM)
[quote]
On 2011-12-05 17:03, Merc Man wrote:
Just a point Sir Dick regarding the price aspect that you mentioned.

Think what has to be done to produce a T.U.C. - especially the work on the leaf - which is, in effect, 2 coins with a mag. shim!

Lot of lathe work there fella. ;)
[/quote]

Okay, still didn't like it, just my preference.

Sir Richard.

[quote]
On 2011-12-05 13:35, Merc Man wrote:
Sir Richard,

Sorry it wasn't to your liking mate; as I said, I've bought more than enough rubbish over the years - now thankfully all sold off! ;)

As for 'kill with it'. Well I put that comment in the same league as magicians that 'fry audiences'.....all I try and do old chap is entertain people and, if I also raise a smile, then that's a bonus.

Just a question fella - what version did you have? Just curious.

Oh and by the way there is no need whatsoever to apologize; you didn't cause any offense my friend.
[/quote]

I had the "Ike."

Sir Richard.

[quote]
On 2011-12-05 19:23, bowers wrote:
The TUC Ike I bought at penguin magic
was only 15 bucks more than a Johnson shell.
I know one thing, Richard, you might hand out
the insert but you will not hand out the flipper
or shell or in some cases have to palm it.If
your doing a two coin to one coin. I know all
do not share the love I have for this coin
like I do and I have other gaff coins too.
And also love them but, if I could only
keep one it would be the TUC.
todd
[/quote]

I'd bought mine from the same place, which how come I got the store credit. I'm not putting down the fact that there are some of you that like it, it just wasn't for me. I was going to offer it for sale on the forum but wanted to get as much of my original investment back as I could. I'm sure that both you and Merc do well with it. I just can't see putting that much money into it for what it does.

Sir Richard.

I use a lot of material taught by Troy Hooser and Nate Kranzo. I don't find it all that difficult to learn. As for handing out the coin, well, the "insert" used with an expanded shell is a real coin and can be handed out quite easily as long as they think that it was the only coin. I've met some magicians that seem to think that the prop makes the performance. If I still had the T.U.C. I would have offered it for sale to those who like it and swear by it. I just didn't think it was "all that."

Sir Richard.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Dec 6, 2011 02:04AM)
Sir Richard -- too bad you didn't check out the dozens of other effects possible with TUC beyond what comes on the DVD -- most "not possible" with an EXP Shell. So, I don't understand "for what it does"

You may not prefer the TUC to other gaffs you have, but be fair ...

if you think it is limiting, the fault may not be with the tool.
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Dec 6, 2011 04:35AM)
[quote]
On 2011-12-06 03:04, funsway wrote:
Sir Richard -- too bad you didn't check out the dozens of other effects possible with TUC beyond what comes on the DVD -- most "not possible" with an EXP Shell. So, I don't understand "for what it does"
[/quote]

Just to echo the above point - to all advocates of the T.U.C.

In July, I purchased a book titled T.U.C. Appreciation by Funsway (top marks fella for not just putting in an unashamed direct plug yourself like so many seem to do these days). It really is the encyclopedia for the T.U.C. and, if you want to see what MORE can be done with the coin in addition to the DVD; as well as learning an excellent piece of subterfuge called 'the sway method', then this book really is a 'must buy'.

I am still working through the additional routines and ideas within this book - in fact, since Sunday, I've been practicing possibly the cleanest and most direct version possible of 'coins through silk' that it's ever been my pleasure to study.

If you are stuck for a Christmas treat for yourself, this book is unreservedly recommended.
Message: Posted by: Sir Richard (Dec 6, 2011 05:33AM)
[quote]
On 2011-12-06 03:04, funsway wrote:
Sir Richard -- too bad you didn't check out the dozens of other effects possible with TUC beyond what comes on the DVD -- most "not possible" with an EXP Shell. So, I don't understand "for what it does"

You may not prefer the TUC to other gaffs you have, but be fair ...

if you think it is limiting, the fault may not be with the tool.
[/quote]

Like I said, enjoy. I don't like it.

Sir Richard.

[quote]
On 2011-12-06 03:04, funsway wrote:
Sir Richard -- too bad you didn't check out the dozens of other effects possible with TUC beyond what comes on the DVD -- most "not possible" with an EXP Shell. So, I don't understand "for what it does"

You may not prefer the TUC to other gaffs you have, but be fair ...

if you think it is limiting, the fault may not be with the tool.
[/quote]

Well, I didn't know I had to go looking for outside material. The only faults that I've really listed are that, IMO, the TUC is over-rated and over-priced. I've learned a lot already from people like Troy Hooser, Nate Kranzo, and the late Jim Cellini. If the TUC had lived up to it's hype I probably would have kept it and be using it, but I was terribly disappointed. It still can't be used in extreme close-up. Not with that silly "Jenny Craig" insert. I don't know what the audiences are like for you folks, but they're pretty observant around here. I also own Tango's "slippery shell," and that opens up some interesting effects as well. Whatever "floats your boat."

Sir Richard.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Dec 6, 2011 08:24AM)
I guess it's a matter of presentation. Even with my crippled hands I do TUC effects in the spectator's hand and completely surrounded. For me, the ability to toss the TUC around is extremely important -- not possible with other gaffs. Admittedly, you have to be able to "Switch in/out" a real coin occasionally, but that is also true when I use another gaff.

I love doing a 3Fly in which my hands never touch -- even with my hands shackled to a stick to make it impossible. This is only possible with the TUC.

I am not trying to convince you to use it, just don't want others to be overly influenced by your experience/bias relative to other available gaffs (often even more expensive). I actually prefer to use no gaffs, but increasing disability makes some sleights I "ustacould" impossible. The TUC fills the gap. I often use an EXP in conjunction with the TUC.

I have a standing offer to send a free effect to any TUC owner to illustrate its "other" uses in addition to the available "TUC Appreciation" book. Sorry you had a bad experience.
Message: Posted by: Sir Richard (Dec 6, 2011 12:01PM)
[quote]
On 2011-12-06 09:24, funsway wrote:
I guess it's a matter of presentation. Even with my crippled hands I do TUC effects in the spectator's hand and completely surrounded. For me, the ability to toss the TUC around is extremely important -- not possible with other gaffs. Admittedly, you have to be able to "Switch in/out" a real coin occasionally, but that is also true when I use another gaff.

I love doing a 3Fly in which my hands never touch -- even with my hands shackled to a stick to make it impossible. This is only possible with the TUC.

I am not trying to convince you to use it, just don't want others to be overly influenced by your experience/bias relative to other available gaffs (often even more expensive). I actually prefer to use no gaffs, but increasing disability makes some sleights I "ustacould" impossible. The TUC fills the gap. I often use an EXP in conjunction with the TUC.

I have a standing offer to send a free effect to any TUC owner to illustrate its "other" uses in addition to the available "TUC Appreciation" book. Sorry you had a bad experience.
[/quote]I imagine it looks really great the way you do it! The other gaffs probably total up to a small bit more, but the only reason I bought the Tango "IKE" flippers is because neither Johnson or Roy Kueppers markets them, and I consider them much better quality than the Tango stuff. BTW, I CAN toss my "Ike" flipper
around pretty easy and work surrounded as well. I think Mr. Tango should hire you to do a TUC DVD, perhaps that might make a difference in how I view it, but probably not. Anyway, I applaud you for overcoming a disability with your hands and turning it into a plus. Great!

Sir Richard.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Dec 6, 2011 12:25PM)
Hello friends,

Sir Richard, of course I accept and respect your opinion, just let me say that you should try to play with a half dollar TUC version and you will see another opinion about it. Anyway I perform with Morgan all the time to do the 3 fly coin and the coin across effect and I didn't have problems. I think that IKE and Morgan version are for stand up performance (3 fly for example) where you show the front of the coin, there aren't the best to use in a table, but half dollar,quarter, 10 pence, are perfect for that.
Maybe when I say "every magicians pocket" I exaggerated because my excitation for inventing this gaffed, sorry for that.
I hope to meet you personally some time and show my TUC routines,
By the way I'll be lecturing around England in February, see you there British magicians.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Dec 6, 2011 05:51PM)
Funsway
I would love to have your appreciation book
todd
Message: Posted by: Sir Richard (Dec 7, 2011 12:08AM)
[quote]
On 2011-12-06 13:25, Mr. Tango wrote:
Hello friends,

Sir Richard, of course I accept and respect your opinion, just let me say that you should try to play with a half dollar TUC version and you will see another opinion about it. Anyway I perform with Morgan all the time to do the 3 fly coin and the coin across effect and I didn't have problems. I think that IKE and Morgan version are for stand up performance (3 fly for example) where you show the front of the coin, there aren't the best to use in a table, but half dollar,quarter, 10 pence, are perfect for that.
Maybe when I say "every magicians pocket" I exaggerated because my excitation for inventing this gaffed, sorry for that.
I hope to meet you personally some time and show my TUC routines,
By the way I'll be lecturing around England in February, see you there British magicians.
[/quote]

Mr. Tango: 1st just let me say thank you for taking the time to respond to my negative comments about your TUC out of what must be a busy schedule for you. I'm sorry, but I have no interest in the way that the gaff is made, no matter what coin is used. Though the US Quarter would probably normally be that thin, so others might wish to look into that. Now for the positive. I own several other of your gaffed coins, & use them quite often. I liked your "Tangopededia of gaffed coins" so well that I did a very positive video review of it at our magic club. Some members came up to me afterwards wanting to know how to get a copy for themselves. I turned them on to Penguin magic and told them to do some shopping. Now, a tip for you on expanding some sales here in the US. Penguin Magic has many of your products listed as "out of stock," yet in an e-mail I received from Acar of PM, he mentioned how they were going to be working on expanding their coin stuff. It is my opinion that you should see about restocking all of your products with them ASAP as their are people looking to buy them, but can't get some of them. Anyway, good luck with your sales!

Sir Richard
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Dec 7, 2011 09:53AM)
Thank you very much Sir Richard, I'll be in touch with Penguin, hope to see you in the future
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Dec 20, 2011 10:35PM)
Hello,

About shimmed shells and TUC, I have to say that I wanted to present a set as TUC 2.0, but I never did it. IF you put any Expanded shimmed shell or a Slippery shell with TUC you will have 3 coins in one.
Actually, in my opinion the best set is a Slippery Expanded shell (all our slippery are shimmed) and a TUC.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Dec 22, 2011 03:38AM)
You can get some of the advantage with a standard EXP Shell by using a magnetic Hold Out for a coin production as the Shell is pinched between the TUC and magnet. Also, two TUC will secure a Shell in the middle of a stack. A PK Ring can also be used to advantage with an EXP Shell and TUC -- but with some dangers ;-)

Rats! I have contacted Mr. Tango and am going to acquire a SS -

now I have to lie awake nights creating new effects.

I have a draft copy of a new book on the "Miracle S-S" with unique effects and usage ideas.

I will send this to a limited number for purchasers of the Tango ShimSlip gaff for review and comments.

contact me at gusarimagic@comcast.net

Merry Christmas
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Dec 24, 2011 04:24PM)
Next week I'll start to shoot TUC Myracles DVD.
I want to have it for UK tour in February.
I'll include:
3 fly coin
Coins across
Coins thru table
Matrix
Chink a chink
One coin routine
Signed coin to red pepper
Coin thru bill
Okito box routines with TUC
Copper and Silver routines
Always 3

If you have some advice or some routine to include, please let me know. I truly feel that many people here helped me a lot as my Friend Ken with his book and many others that all the time are sending me messages. Thank you very much to everybody and Merry Christmas.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Dec 24, 2011 06:29PM)
Mr Tango...

How hard is 3fly with the TUC?
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Dec 25, 2011 10:47PM)
Fairly simple to perform it with a shell. Check your PM in a little while, Trooper.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Dec 26, 2011 06:05PM)
Trooper, I invented TUC trying to find a easy way to perform 3 Fly, I saw Chriss Kenner doing the effect in my magic bar in Buenos Aires (http://www.tangomagic.com/pages.php?pageid=9) and I couldn't forget the effect for many years but when I read the effect in his book I started to find a way to do it with a gaffed coin, first I started to perform 3 Fly with Expanded shell and 3 regular coins, then with the Slippery Expanded Shell, actually I introduced some year ago my version Tango Flying Coin with 3 coins and a Slippery Expanded shell and finally trying to replace the Slippery shell for a better coin I found the TUC. So, I can say that, in my opinion, TUC was born for 3 fly coin routine.
Today I started to shoot my TUC Miracles DVD and I will include my last version of 3 fly coin there. Today I shot:
Coin across
Matrix with 4 cards, matrix with only one card
Coins thru table
Coin thru bill, two versions
Coin thru hand
Coins thru okito box
I'll continue tomorrow, I hope to finish this week.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Dec 26, 2011 07:36PM)
I found your TUC gimmick on a website for a great price and I'm very interested...once more funds become available, It will be my next purchase!
Message: Posted by: bowers (Dec 26, 2011 09:59PM)
Ha trooper
Just want to pass a little tip for you. When you buy your tuc make sure it's one of the newer made ones.The older ones had the square magnet in the shell. The newer ones have the round ones in them.
todd
Message: Posted by: funsway (Dec 28, 2011 01:52AM)
[quote]
On 2011-12-26 20:36, Trooper11040 wrote:
I found your TUC gimmick on a website for a great price and I'm very interested...once more funds become available, It will be my next purchase!
[/quote]

You can always get a replacement round mag if you don't care for the older square -- just ask Mr. Tango
Message: Posted by: charliewerner (Dec 29, 2011 09:13AM)
Does TUC ever sound and weigh like real coin? Can audience examine the coin in the beginning and the end of the routine?
Message: Posted by: Sir Richard (Dec 29, 2011 09:44AM)
[quote]
On 2011-12-29 10:13, charliewerner wrote:
Does TUC ever sound and weight like real coin? Can audience examine the coin in the beginning and the end of the routine?
[/quote]

No to both questions.

Sir Richard.
Message: Posted by: charliewerner (Dec 29, 2011 10:56AM)
Then I am going to have to switch out also.
Message: Posted by: caubeck (Dec 29, 2011 11:59AM)
Today I saw the TUC in the magic store was a 2010 Kennedy. I didn't buy it because my Kennedy halves are all older and bear a different design. I suppose if you're based in the States it doesn't look so odd.
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Dec 29, 2011 12:50PM)
The older Kennedys are definitely better caubeck.
Message: Posted by: charliewerner (Dec 29, 2011 08:02PM)
Older kennedy are thicker and better if made into expand** shell... those maker who use new kennedy coin as shell going to have hard time covering old kennedy coin...

Btw is all tango coin made using new thinner kennedy half dollar?
Message: Posted by: caubeck (Dec 30, 2011 04:52AM)
Just received a c/s TUC. It's a 2010 Kennedy. I guess I'll have to get used to the new ones.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jan 1, 2012 08:30PM)
Many people sent me pm asking for TUC walking liberty, I want to say that Murphys has in stock this coins as well all our line in Silver coins. So ask the coin your favorite dealer and they will ask to Murphys.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jan 24, 2012 02:59PM)
Hello friend,

Next month I will lecturing around England,
This is my schedule:
Feb 14 Fort Valley, Scotland
Feb 15 free for the moment
Feb 16 Blackpool Magic Convention as a Dealer
Feb 17 Blackpool Magic Convention as a Dealer
Feb 18 Blackpool Magic Convention as a Dealer
Feb 19 Blackpool Magic Convention as a Dealer
Feb 20 Leicester Magic Circle
Feb 21 Medway Magical Society, Gillinghan
Feb 22 Zodiac Magic Circle, Leatherhead.
Feb 23 Surrey Society of Magicians, London
Feb 24 free for the moment
Feb 25 free for the moment
Feb 26 High Peak Magicians Buxton
Feb 27 free for the moment
Feb 28 free for the moment
Feb 29 Newcastle Magic Circle
March 1 Darlington Magic Circle


I still have a couple of days free, so if you have interest to set up a lecture in your magic club, contact to
Sean Lobban <redzedents@gmail.com> he's the organizer.

Bye
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Jan 26, 2012 12:28AM)
[quote]
On 2011-12-29 11:56, charliewerner wrote:
Then I am going to have to switch out also.
[/quote]

Why would you want the audience to examine the coin - before, after, and at all?

I have never understood this. Do you hand out normal coins for examination? I have noticed that people only seem interested in handing out their gaffed coins!

Just perform well, and if they ask to examine anything you used, just smile and say that you never let other people handle your money! ;)

Jim
Message: Posted by: Atom3339 (Jan 26, 2012 12:53AM)
Right-on advice, Jim!
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jan 28, 2012 04:23AM)
Handing out any prop "for examination" is questionable -- but allowing spectators to casually handle objects is another. This is just part of "closing the door" in develponing a Dilemma. I have had great success in ahnading spectors a basket of mixed coins and having them select one for an effect, "I need a medium sized silver one." Switching in the gaff during the handoff is simple. Later you can say, "Your coin."

A suggestion that a spectator is imbuing a coin with magic by handling it is also very powerful -- allowing them to participate in the magic. Asking a spectator to "Keep this warm" works well.
Message: Posted by: AdamChance (Feb 3, 2012 09:21PM)
Just got my US half dollar TUC and it works great! I'm really happy with my purchase.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Feb 3, 2012 09:32PM)
I just got mine too...still not sure what to do with it lol...the DVD effects seem boring
Message: Posted by: AdamChance (Feb 3, 2012 10:04PM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-03 22:32, Trooper11040 wrote:
I just got mine too...still not sure what to do with it lol...the DVD effects seem boring
[/quote]

ya, I'm kinda in the same boat. I think the effects on the DVD are pretty decent and they're a good place to start. but there's a lot more possibilities out there. I wish there were more videos on youtube of people performing so that I can get some more ideas for routines.

this guy does a nice little routine...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5UOx5qcM68

I think I'm going to work on a matrix routine first.

I'd be interested to hear how people are incorporating an expanded shell with the TUC as well.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Feb 3, 2012 10:19PM)
Mr tango should be coming out
with his new tuc dvd soon.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Feb 4, 2012 01:23AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-03 22:32, Trooper11040 wrote:
I just got mine too...still not sure what to do with it lol...the DVD effects seem boring
[/quote]

check out "T.U.C. Appreciation" on lulu.com, and comments here on the Café' More than 70 effects explained in detail, with new moves and sleights so that you can craft a hundred more.

Yes, some include using an EXP Sh**l in conjunction with the TUC
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Feb 4, 2012 08:18AM)
Only problem with my Lassen Expanded Shell is it's shimmed like an oxf set...once it touches the tuc, it's on there!
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Feb 4, 2012 09:17AM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-04 02:23, funsway wrote:
[quote]
On 2012-02-03 22:32, Trooper11040 wrote:
I just got mine too...still not sure what to do with it lol...the DVD effects seem boring
[/quote]

check out "T.U.C. Appreciation" on lulu.com, and comments here on the Café' More than 70 effects explained in detail, with new moves and sleights so that you can craft a hundred more.

Yes, some include using an EXP Sh**l in conjunction with the TUC
[/quote]

I just bought your book!
Message: Posted by: AdamChance (Feb 4, 2012 04:04PM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-04 10:17, Trooper11040 wrote:
[quote]
On 2012-02-04 02:23, funsway wrote:
[quote]
On 2012-02-03 22:32, Trooper11040 wrote:
I just got mine too...still not sure what to do with it lol...the DVD effects seem boring
[/quote]

check out "T.U.C. Appreciation" on lulu.com, and comments here on the Café' More than 70 effects explained in detail, with new moves and sleights so that you can craft a hundred more.

Yes, some include using an EXP Sh**l in conjunction with the TUC
[/quote]

I just bought your book!
[/quote]

how is the book? useful?
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Feb 4, 2012 07:29PM)
Not sure yet...bought it but had to go to work...didn't get a chance to look at it yet
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Feb 8, 2012 06:58PM)
I was shooting the DVD but I couldn't finish it, I really want to make a better work as the first DVD, actually I know that the first DVD is not complete so this time I want to take the necessary time to make a good and new contribution to the TUC users. So, now I'm going to my lecture tour around England and when I come back in March I will start again.
Remember if somebody want to be in the DVD with his idea, send me videos to info@tangomagic.com
Message: Posted by: Dacodakid (Feb 8, 2012 08:16PM)
Just got a Walking Liberty TUC and it seems real loose and "rickety". Makes a lot of noise when I handle it. Is that normal or did I just get a bad one?
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Feb 8, 2012 08:19PM)
Sometimes silver coins need to be used some days to get the best point, play with the coin and it will adjust itself, anyway if you are not happy you can send the coin back and ask a replacement.
Message: Posted by: AdamChance (Feb 8, 2012 08:50PM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-08 21:16, Dacodakid wrote:
Just got a Walking Liberty TUC and it seems real loose and "rickety". Makes a lot of noise when I handle it. Is that normal or did I just get a bad one?
[/quote]

my US half dollar is perfect. I don't have any of those problems.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Feb 8, 2012 09:02PM)
I can't wait to get my morgen tuc.
todd
Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Feb 8, 2012 09:05PM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-08 21:16, Dacodakid wrote:
Just got a Walking Liberty TUC and it seems real loose and "rickety". Makes a lot of noise when I handle it. Is that normal or did I just get a bad one?
[/quote]

See if you can get your hands on a couple of others to compare (if you have not owned one before). One man's "loose and rickety" is another man's "really good". I've had 3, and they were all about the same.
Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Feb 8, 2012 09:06PM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-08 22:02, bowers wrote:
I can't wait to get my morgen tuc.
todd
[/quote]

I love mine. Sure you will, too.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Feb 9, 2012 04:15PM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-08 21:16, Dacodakid wrote:
Just got a Walking Liberty TUC and it seems real loose and "rickety". Makes a lot of noise when I handle it. Is that normal or did I just get a bad one?
[/quote]

I'm not sure what you mean by "loose", but the noise issue was discussed pretty extensively on this thread. You should look back a few pages. As with a sh**l, the noise is reduced with practice and routining.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Feb 10, 2012 11:16PM)
I think I know what he means, Banzai. I have an Ike TUC and it is also very loose - always has been. Loose enough that when you hold it up one edge hangs open. And if I were to hold it by the edges of the shell portion any overt move can cause the insert to fall out. When I use this TUC - which isn't very often - I have to handle it with great care. BTW, none of my half-dollar TUCs, C/S TUC, or quarter TUC are loose like that at all.

Jim
Message: Posted by: bowers (Feb 11, 2012 12:01AM)
I would talk with mr tango about
that jim I have 4 ikes and all of
then fit great.you can flip it
throw it from hand to hand without
worry of it coming loose.
todd
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Feb 11, 2012 04:09PM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-11 00:16, J-Mac wrote:
I think I know what he means, Banzai. I have an Ike TUC and it is also very loose - always has been. Loose enough that when you hold it up one edge hangs open. And if I were to hold it by the edges of the shell portion any overt move can cause the insert to fall out. When I use this TUC - which isn't very often - I have to handle it with great care. BTW, none of my half-dollar TUCs, C/S TUC, or quarter TUC are loose like that at all.

Jim
[/quote]

I have 4 TUCs (1 Morgan, 3 non-silver gaffs) and NONE are like this. You definitely got a bad one, guys. Time for a shipment to Argentina.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Feb 13, 2012 03:37PM)
No Banzai, you are wrong, every coin work different, I can say that half of my TUC are are very loose, everything depend how the coin get adjust by self. The important is that the coin work for the effect.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Feb 13, 2012 08:12PM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-13 16:37, Mr. Tango wrote:
No Banzai, you are wrong, every coin work different, I can say that half of my TUC are are very loose, everything depend how the coin get adjust by self. The important is that the coin work for the effect.
[/quote]

Jim says he has one TUC that is "loose enough that when you hold it up one edge hangs open". And further that if he was "to hold it by the edges of the shell portion any overt move can cause the insert to fall out". That doesn't sound like a properly working TUC to me, and Jim seems to agree stating that he doesn't use it very often. I don't think I would like his TUC either, the way he described it. I have always found you to be very reputable in my dealings with you and I have seen you offer to exchange coins here on the Café in the past when someone was dissatisfied. I assume that would apply if looseness was the issue.

I had never heard of a looseness problem with TUCs until these posts. In fact, with some of my TUCs, I have had the oppostie problem - too strong of an attraction until I warm up with them a bit). Thanks, Jim, for letting us know it is a potential issue.

BTW, Mr. Tango, I am really looking forward to your DVD.

Regards,

Alan
Message: Posted by: itlust (Feb 15, 2012 02:27AM)
Guys, is it possible to make T.U.C in chinese coin(black one with hole in the center,in case you don't know) ?
because I want to start perform coin magic with those coin
(my walker TUC is still on the shipment :( )
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Feb 15, 2012 05:46AM)
Hello friend,

I received your email but I was on the way to England where I'm now. I have to say that the Chinese TUC will be available in about 2 months, I'm making samples now and I'm in the progress working for that.

Bye
Message: Posted by: itlust (Feb 15, 2012 06:44AM)
@Mr. Tango
Yes,i've just read ur post after I sent that email that's why I don't keep sending you an email :)
Glad to hear that Mr. Tango :), I believe TUC in chinese coin will bring more new tricks using TUC :)
Message: Posted by: baobow (Feb 16, 2012 05:07AM)
Just noticed the potential similarities in the type of tricks you could do with a split coin vs a t.u.c
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Feb 19, 2012 12:50PM)
The first thing is that you can show the TUC without kind of problems because there aren't two coins together. TUC looks as a similar coin
Message: Posted by: tony555 (Feb 20, 2012 01:13PM)
Hi All My first post, I have just purchased tuc £2 version and I am awaiting dekivery, would an ex/s enhance the coin and provide more routines, or is a sh not necessary? i`m thinking of down loading the book from lulu.com

tony555
Message: Posted by: tony555 (Feb 20, 2012 01:25PM)
Apologies for my spelling mistakes in the previous post, I suppose being my first post I was too keen to submit it. Anyway, I forgot to mention I shall have the pleasure of meeting Mr Tango at the Newcastle Circle on Wed 29th Feb,when by that time my TUC will have arrived so I will have lots of questions to ask him.
tony555
Message: Posted by: Motor City (Feb 23, 2012 01:36AM)
Tony555, Mr. Tango is very approachable. I am sure he will answer all of the questions you have to ask. He also demos the T.U.C. very well.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Feb 27, 2012 06:03PM)
I will be in Newcastle February 29 for my lecture, I'm now at Barry Allen house in Nuneaton, UK, my last lecture is in Darlington next Thursday March 1st. See you there friends
Message: Posted by: tony555 (Mar 1, 2012 03:01AM)
Hi Motor City
I had the pleasure of meeting Marcelo at newcastle circle last night. What a TOP MAN this guy is. He gave me lots of help,besides providing our members with a first class lecture which I know all of our members appreciated. What stood out was the fact that many of the members were completely in the dark regarding the tuc and so were more impressed with the miracles that Mr Tango performed.
Mr Tango, Marcelo, if you are reading this, please accept my grateful thanks for the help you gave me, and also on behalf of the members of our circle can I give you a big THANK YOU for an excellent lecture. We look forward to your new DVD.
TONY555
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 1, 2012 09:36AM)
Thanks Tony, I really enjoyed last night at Newcastle, today I will finish my England Tour in Darlington
Message: Posted by: charliewerner (Mar 7, 2012 07:35PM)
Is the inner coin a re-edge coin?
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Mar 7, 2012 10:38PM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-07 20:35, charliewerner wrote:
Is the inner coin a re-edge coin?
[/quote]
yes.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 8, 2012 12:01PM)
I was at Wizard Magic Review in Birmingham last week, see the video, my interview starts at minute 17,45 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SejVmj_tUi4
Message: Posted by: Brian Proctor (Mar 8, 2012 01:19PM)
Just watched the interview! That coins across you performed was eye popping!
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Mar 8, 2012 03:01PM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-08 13:01, Mr. Tango wrote:
I was at Wizard Magic Review in Birmingham last week, see the video, my interview starts at minute 17,45 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SejVmj_tUi4
[/quote]

Brillient! Craig's compliments were well deserved.
When will the DVD come out?
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Mar 8, 2012 03:15PM)
Excellent Mr Tango...Morgan's look so nice!!
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Mar 8, 2012 10:46PM)
Sorry, can't type without iPad autocorrect - should have been "Brilliant"

Nevertheless, it was great to see this on film. It is so much fun to use the TUC that you forget how miraculous it looks to a spectator.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Mar 8, 2012 11:34PM)
Alsome coins across mr tango. can't wait for that new dvd.
todd
Message: Posted by: slyhand (Mar 9, 2012 06:41AM)
Is the instructions for the coins across in the DVD that comes with the coin or will I have to wait for a new DVD?
Message: Posted by: The MailMan (Mar 9, 2012 07:04AM)
Hi Mr Tango, I love my TUC but I sometimes think I would prefer the M----- to be a little stronger, is there a way to replace it with a different one or strengthen the original one? The reason I ask is that I often find the coin "slipping" during the matrix effect.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 9, 2012 08:13AM)
MailMan, you can solve the problem in 5 seconds, just put a small piece of masking paper in the center of the magnet and it will become weak.

About the coin across, thank you very much for your words, actually I think that I can make it better, I always perform that routine in my show and I didn't be comfortable with the cam angle, anyway I'm happy. In my first DVD there is a coin across but not this one, I will include this TUC Coin Across in the new DVD.
About the new DVD, let me say that one month ago before to go to my UK tour I hit my middle finger nail and I have this nail totally black now, I'm waiting to pass this small problem to continue shooting the DVD. I think it will be ready for the next FISM congress in July.
Message: Posted by: The MailMan (Mar 9, 2012 08:25AM)
Hi Mr Tango, I mean how do you make the magnet stronger not weaker, I have no problems with the gimmick staying together but the problem comes with lifting the S--- C--- with the gimmick fully assembled; I am using the 2 pound coin version and it is too heavy for the M----- to hold the whole thing together on the S--- and so it slides off.

Other than that I love the product :)
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Mar 9, 2012 11:26AM)
Great review! This is why I like Wizard Magic Review, regardless of problems recently encountered! Very informative!

Doug
Message: Posted by: Brian Proctor (Mar 9, 2012 03:02PM)
Got my Ike tuc today in the mail. Immediately I shimmed my ike expanded [. Now I have a killer 3 in 1 coin. Love it!
Message: Posted by: itlust (Mar 9, 2012 07:42PM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-09 16:02, Brian Proctor wrote:
Got my Ike tuc today in the mail. Immediately I shimmed my ike expanded [. Now I have a killer 3 in 1 coin. Love it!
[/quote]
I'm sorry for asking ? if you shimmed your expanded shell,how do you separate the shell from TUC ?wont it be stuck ?
Message: Posted by: Brian Proctor (Mar 9, 2012 10:14PM)
I took a pin on style button, used scissors and cut the tin into a small circle. I have Teflon discs from tango magic. Just placed it under the teflon and since the tin is so thin, it is attracted to the m****t just enough to toss it in the air without separating. At the same time, when holding the unit in spellbound position, it falls out under its own weight.
Message: Posted by: slyhand (Mar 10, 2012 05:46AM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-09 23:14, Brian Proctor wrote:
I took a pin on style button,
[/quote]

What is that?
Message: Posted by: Brian Proctor (Mar 10, 2012 05:57AM)
A metal button with a closing pin. Like a political button.
Message: Posted by: PRINCE (Mar 10, 2012 06:07AM)
For those who may have been fortunate to handle the 2 pound version and the 10pence version (UK) which do you feel is the better coin to handle. There is a big difference in the size of each coin and wondered if the size would make a difference in the handling and operation of the gimmicks. I know TheMailMan has expressed an issue above regarding the weight of the 2 pound version which has an effect on the workings of the gimmick.

As I would only perform this for walk around/strolling the effects I would use would probably only be 3fly and coins across. This question goes out to anyone I think. Do you feel bigger coins are easier to handle than smaller coins? Especially when having to work the gimmicks?

Thanks
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 10, 2012 06:18AM)
10 pence is better but 2 pounds works too.

If somebody has interest to take lessons with me about TUC routines by skipe please contact me by PM. I would like to try to teach thru this way.
It won't be cheap because is my time but not so expensive.
Message: Posted by: PRINCE (Mar 10, 2012 06:53AM)
Wow, Mr Tango himself! A pleasure sir, thank you. Thanks for your kind advice.
Message: Posted by: writeall (Mar 10, 2012 04:57PM)
I also fell in love with that coins across. Since I'm using Ike dollars now, I'm interested in the Eisenhower TUC. I've heard, however, that they won't pass muster in close-up situations with good lighting. If anyone has this set and can PM me about it, I'd very much appreciate it.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 10, 2012 11:33PM)
I use Morgan dollars in my close up routine so you can use the IKE without problems
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Mar 11, 2012 12:55AM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-10 17:57, writeall wrote:
I also fell in love with that coins across. Since I'm using Ike dollars now, I'm interested in the Eisenhower TUC. I've heard, however, that they won't pass muster in close-up situations with good lighting. If anyone has this set and can PM me about it, I'd very much appreciate it.
[/quote]

It depends on what you are using it for. The "leaf" is thin and should not be shown on edge. If you are doing a matrix effect and some kid's head is only 6 inches above your table, it might be an issue. In the hands and viewed from above should not be a problem with the right handling.

I don't see how lighting would be an issue. I have a Morgan TUC that can be shown on both sides with more confidence than any of my other gaffs (except my Lassen coins).
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 11, 2012 10:52AM)
If you want to perform the matrix that I perform with TUC, Ike or Morgan size doesn't work, in this case you have to use half dollars and smaller coins.
I open my shows with 3 fly routine and close with coin across and I always use Morgan coins
Message: Posted by: BaryBazz (Mar 12, 2012 12:09PM)
OK you guys have sold me on it.Just ordered the 10p version in the UK.Mr T will the coins across be on the DVD or how do I get it.

Barry
Message: Posted by: funsway (Mar 13, 2012 10:20AM)
There are a dozen "coins across" effects in "T.U.C. Appreciation" in additon to the several Tango verions.
Message: Posted by: Motor City (Mar 13, 2012 04:12PM)
"T.U.C. Appreciation" is a worthwhile investment if you own a T.U.C.
Message: Posted by: BaryBazz (Mar 13, 2012 06:27PM)
Thanks guys I will have to invest in TUC Appreciation.

Barry
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Mar 13, 2012 11:39PM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-13 11:20, funsway wrote:
There are a dozen "coins across" effects in "T.U.C. Appreciation" in additon to the several Tango verions.
[/quote]

Really? A dozen? I'll have to dig that out and take another look - I didn't notice that many before.

Thank you.

Jim
Message: Posted by: funsway (Mar 14, 2012 02:41AM)
To be more specific, of the effects classified as of the "coins across" approach, there are:

seven from Mr Tango, six Assembly/Matrix and nine Flights -- plus eight Transportations

several of the C/S and Coin Box effects can be considered "coins across" as well.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 14, 2012 09:45AM)
Great job Funsway, thanks
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Mar 14, 2012 11:18AM)
OK, I see why I missed them. IMO you are mixing grapes and kumquats! I have never considered coin box, Matrix or assembly, or C/S routines as Coins Across.

Thanks!

Jim
Message: Posted by: tm613 (Mar 14, 2012 12:06PM)
C/S Transpos are in the Coins Across chapter of Bobo's ...but I agree don't consider a coins across...
Message: Posted by: tgold65 (Mar 14, 2012 08:46PM)
Saw the interview on Wizard product review and just ordered it. I can't wait for it to arrive.
Message: Posted by: ChristianMagician (Mar 15, 2012 01:02PM)
Just got mine today . I also fist saw it on the WPR. I'd like to get that book Mr Tango mentioned in the video too. I'm thinking there's more than one TUC for that coins across he did. But great coin. I have the half dollar one. Can't wait ot go home ( At work now) and check out the DVD that came with it and work on some stuff. I can see the similarities between this and the split coin. both are great :)
Message: Posted by: SPONGE KONG (Mar 15, 2012 01:10PM)
I bought the halve Dollar version and think its a great Coin but does occasionly get stuck , I may buy the Dollar Coin too. For now playing around with it and some routines!
Keep up the great work Mr Tango!
Message: Posted by: writeall (Mar 15, 2012 02:37PM)
ChristianMagician,

I'd like to know if it requires two TUCs. Tell us about the DVD when you get a chance to look at it.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Mar 15, 2012 05:19PM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-15 14:10, SPONGE KONG wrote:
I bought the halve Dollar version and think its a great Coin but does occasionly get stuck , I may buy the Dollar Coin too. For now playing around with it and some routines!
Keep up the great work Mr Tango!
[/quote]

I have had this problem, occasionally ($0.50 and C/S, but not with my Morgan TUC). Interestingly, letting the gaff rest for a while seems to make it harder to open and frequent use seems to make it work easier. Also, the type of m****t makes a difference. Older TUC's use square and newer ones use round. The round works easier. Depending on where you are buying the TUC from, some dealers are still selling old stock.

In addition, Mr. Tango has indicated that the strength of the m****t is somewhat adjustable by adding a layer or two of tape over the Teflon as needed (on the m****t only).

I realize this is quite a long thread now but there are a number of pearls of wisdom among the postings on previous pages which address these and other issues which are pretty helpful. You will be rewarded for taking the time to slog through.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Mar 15, 2012 05:29PM)
I have several tucs
but the doller size worsk the best.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 15, 2012 08:57PM)
About the question if I use more than one TUC in my coin across the answer is NO. I use only ONE gaffed coin and 3 regular coins.
Next week I'll get back to work in the new DVD
Message: Posted by: ChristianMagician (Mar 15, 2012 09:16PM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-15 21:57, Mr. Tango wrote:
About the question if I use more than one TUC in my coin across the answer is NO. I use only ONE gaffed coin and 3 regular coins.
Next week I'll get back to work in the new DVD
[/quote]
Can't wait to see the DVD !
Message: Posted by: funsway (Mar 16, 2012 04:35AM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-15 14:10, SPONGE KONG wrote:
I bought the halve Dollar version and think its a great Coin but does occasionly get stuck [/quote]

I have the quarter, half, Eisenhower and Morgan TUC and never have a "Sticking" problem

like any gaff using a "Sh**l it may need adjustment -- and the old "silk" method is great.

Individual adjustment with tape or other method may be required depending on Effect.

The more than 70 Effects in "T.U.C. Appreciation" have different requirement for "looseness" of release/split- and choice of the various Split Methods (some not on the Tango DVD's)

..................................
I have never used more than one TUC for any Effect, but have used multiple TUC's for the Switch-in/out Methods for transition to other effects. For example, if performing a Chink-a-Tango routine with a TUC as F*r** coin, you might Ditch as spectators handle the table coins -- then Load in another TUC for a later effect.

Thus, a second TUC is never required but might be useful.

Mr. Tango's famous Flurry ending uses additonal TUC's -- easy to do since the extras for a "bonded stack" for a Load.
Message: Posted by: shouksmiths (Mar 20, 2012 06:08AM)
Is the TUC appreciation document worth buying even without own a TUC. I was thinking it might give me some ideas for using the hopping halves set I've just ordered. I could then just reengineer the method
Message: Posted by: hhoudini (Mar 20, 2012 09:42AM)
Is the TUC available in 10 pence format? If so, does anyone know UK stockists? Thanks!
Message: Posted by: PRINCE (Mar 20, 2012 12:01PM)
Magic box in the UK sell the 10pence version
Message: Posted by: funsway (Mar 21, 2012 01:38AM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-20 07:08, shouksmiths wrote:
Is the TUC appreciation document worth buying even without own a TUC. I was thinking it might give me some ideas for using the hopping halves set I've just ordered. I could then just reengineer the method
[/quote]

"T.U.C. Appreciation" is a 358 page book with more than 70 Effects and dozens of Sleights and Moves than can be used in any coin or small object approach. Some of the Effects could be done with an ExpSh**l or Spl**C**n. Plus lots of theory on creativity and presentation. Other Effects/Moves are for Switch-In or Out a gaffed coin that could apply to anything. While some can be done only with the TUC -- they might indeed fuel your own creativity, which is why I wrote the book.

There is a DownLoad version available that everyone's pocket book can justify. Check lulu.com
Message: Posted by: tgold65 (Mar 21, 2012 07:15PM)
My TUC just arrived today. Wow, what a brilliant gimmick. This is the best coin gimmick ever. It is well worth the price. You can do everything you do with a shell, but only better. I don't agree with WPR that it is "examinable" but because you can flip it over like a regular coin, there is no reason for people to feel like they have to examine it in their hands anyway. It is extremely clean.

I am very, very impressed. This should be in every coin workers toolkit.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 26, 2012 08:20AM)
I started with the skipe lessons and it's great, so if somebody has interest send me a PM
Message: Posted by: shouksmiths (Mar 26, 2012 09:58AM)
OK maybe not the place to ask but why is our esteemed colleague called Mr Tango? Is it in reference to the UK ads which feature Tango Man. A large orange man. Or is it to with the dance the Tango? Or is it the same sort of question that asks why is Ali Bongo called Ali Bongo. Because he simply is.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Mar 26, 2012 12:58PM)
I recieved my morgen tuc today from mr tango.
It is a work of art.and it works perfect.
I simply love it.it is worth every penny to me.
thanks again mr tango.
todd
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Mar 26, 2012 01:31PM)
Todd, how much did it cost you?
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 26, 2012 02:47PM)
Shouksmiths, after see my TUC you have been tango ! haha, I knew the add in my last trip to UK and use the phrase in my lectures.

I just took Tango as nickname because I love this kind of music and I perform some routines with Tango musi
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Mar 26, 2012 04:17PM)
The name fits you well.
I couldn't imagine you as Mr. Cha Cha.
Message: Posted by: shouksmiths (Mar 27, 2012 02:17AM)
You can't but help like Mr Tango. Pity I missed his UK tour.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Mar 27, 2012 08:47AM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-26 17:17, jazzy snazzy wrote:
The name fits you well.
I couldn't imagine you as Mr. Cha Cha.
[/quote]

I agree...that name just wouldn't sound right...good thing its Tango instead haha...
Message: Posted by: Mb217 (Mar 27, 2012 06:34PM)
[b]MILESTONE[/b]

This string has been going for nearly 3 years with over 77,000 views and over 600 replies - [b]600![/b] First posted by my friend Sammy here on the Café. Man, you know a good one when you see one and the TUC is certainly that. I'm just saying'... :) Just wanted to make note here as so much has come from your initial post.

Hey Mr. Tango, how about a gold coin TUC for Sammy as he began your greatest advertisement effort for your greatest coin. :)

-Mb
Message: Posted by: shouksmiths (Mar 28, 2012 03:24AM)
If you don't ask....
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 28, 2012 09:55PM)
Yes this string and this forum are incredibles. I can't believe that my wife could click 77 thousand times the same link ! :)

Actually I appreciate so much Sammy and everybody here because this post help me a lot. Besides I got very good friend thanks to this post, here I knew Funsway that wrote the book and many other very good people as Lawrence O, Barry Allen and many others. For everybody THANK YOU very much for your help.

I would love to make a convention about TUC and invite everybody but it's imposible.

Thanks again and let's go for 100 thousand views.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Mar 28, 2012 11:40PM)
I guess no gold coin for Sammy. :jesterhat:
Message: Posted by: Zombie Magic (Mar 29, 2012 12:51AM)
AMAZING work from Tango:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeAAuhYtorg
Message: Posted by: bowers (Mar 29, 2012 01:07AM)
Its for sure one of the best galf coins on the market today.
and very fairly priced.so many possibilitys with this single galf.
todd
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Mar 29, 2012 10:04AM)
I'm finally getting into the TUC...it's pretty cool and works well!
Message: Posted by: Mb217 (Mar 30, 2012 07:50AM)
And yes, meant to mention Funsway here in pulling together the "TUC Appreciation Book." A tremendous work by a gifted and prolific writer that saw the uniqueness in this coin early on as well, and set out to give people a treasure chest worth of stuff to do with it. :)

Yes, Funsway deserves a [b]Gold Coin TUC[/b] along with Sammy here, a momento of the great friendship and appreciation Mr. Tango mentions here that's so important to him behind the popularity initiated and then developed by what these 2 guys in particular did to set such a fire burning so bright as to his work. :)

What do you guys think here?
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Mar 30, 2012 08:57AM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-30 08:50, Mb217 wrote:
And yes, meant to mention Funsway here in pulling together the "TUC Appreciation Book." A tremendous work by a gifted and prolific writer that saw the uniqueness in this coin early on as well, and set out to give people a treasure chest worth of stuff to do with it. :)

Yes, Funsway deserves a [b]Gold Coin TUC[/b] along with Sammy here, a momento of the great friendship and appreciation Mr. Tango mentions here that's so important to him behind the popularity initiated and then developed by what these 2 guys in particular did to set such a fire burning so bright as to his work. :)

What do you guys think here?
[/quote]

Mb I have to agree! I would have never purchased a TUC or the TUC appreciation book without this forum thread!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Apr 3, 2012 08:02AM)
Please friends don't open other thread use this one for the TUC opinions
Message: Posted by: nicolasmtg (Apr 3, 2012 12:46PM)
Hello guys Im from argentina and I have a lot of routines with the TUC , I'm a PURIST but one day I said to myself, I WANNA GET A GAFF COIN, but I want an exotic one :), soo I bought mi first tuc :). and I'm very very happy.


PS:how can I present here because I cant post on the WELCOME section.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Apr 3, 2012 01:19PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-03 13:46, nicolasmtg wrote:
Hello guys Im from argentina and I have a lot of routines with the TUC , I'm a PURIST but one day I said to myself, I WANNA GET A GAFF COIN, but I want an exotic one :), soo I bought mi first tuc :). and I'm very very happy.


PS:how can I present here because I cant post on the WELCOME section.
[/quote]

Welcome! The TUC is a great and versatile coin gaff...it's cool to mess with as well!
Message: Posted by: lukecloughmagic (Apr 3, 2012 01:31PM)
I've just picked up an Eisenhower T.U.C and its awesome, is there a book/dvd that has ideas for more routines than the DVD it comes with? I bought it seocnd hand and theres a dvd with about 5 routines on but was wondering for more :)
Message: Posted by: tm613 (Apr 3, 2012 02:02PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-03 14:31, lukecloughmagic wrote:
I've just picked up an Eisenhower T.U.C and its awesome, is there a book/dvd that has ideas for more routines than the DVD it comes with? I bought it seocnd hand and theres a dvd with about 5 routines on but was wondering for more :)
[/quote]

Look a few posts above TUC Appreciation
Message: Posted by: lukecloughmagic (Apr 3, 2012 02:40PM)
Ha! how did I miss that!!! thanks for the pointer!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Apr 3, 2012 03:56PM)
Friends, I wanted to have the new DVD ready for April, but two months ago I crashed my medium right finger nail when I was rowing in the river, (I go every day to row) and I was waiting that the nail went back to his natural color.
After 2 months waiting I think that it can take so much time to come back to his natura colour, just my nail is not in his best stetic situation for a video. But I can't wait more, because I receive e-mails every day asking for the "coin across" routine that everybody saw at Wizard Product Review, so I have to take a desicion: to put as title of the DVDs "Black Nail Series" or to paint my nails to shoot the video. I think that I will do the second one.

The idea is to introduce a series of DVDs, called TUC Miracles, at least 4 volumes:
1- Coin Acroos routines
2- Matrix routines
3- Coin penetrations
4- 3 fly routine

So, I will start with the "Coin across" volume next week.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Apr 3, 2012 06:52PM)
Cool stuff Mr Tango!!!
Message: Posted by: magicinsight (Apr 3, 2012 09:50PM)
I just received a soft Walking Liberty TUC that "Mr. Tango" sent to me from Argentina. It is beautiful and works flawlessly. I do not know if he has these in stock on a regular basis or makes them up ocassionaly but you should certainly contact "Mr. Tango" if you want one. Highly recommended.

I also received a special expanded Kennedy half dollar shell (heads) that he made up for me specially to fit over his Gravity Pro English Penny/Half Dollar flipper. I had to wait two weeks for it to come from Argentina but it was well worth it. It fits perfectly with no distortion. Mr. Tango provided great customer service and delivered a great product. Highly recommended.
Michael
Message: Posted by: tgold65 (Apr 3, 2012 10:03PM)
[quote]
On 2012-03-29 02:07, bowers wrote:
Its for sure one of the best galf coins on the market today.
and very fairly priced.so many possibilitys with this single galf.
todd
[/quote]

I think it is not "one of the best", I think it is "the best". My coins across now seems like real magic. Even my wife thought it was amazing and after all these years, she is hard to fool. The ability to do a coins across with seemingly no moves and it looks so clean because the gaff is indectible in normal use, I am at a loss for words. I even fool myself with the TUC. It is the best.

Mr Tango, my hats off to you!
Message: Posted by: shouksmiths (Apr 4, 2012 02:35AM)
Hi Mr Tango.Do you personally make all of your coins? Or due to the quantity needed is there a team of people who make them for you?
Message: Posted by: shouksmiths (Apr 4, 2012 04:26AM)
Is the TUC available as a 10p piece (UK). And if so who sells it?
Message: Posted by: PRINCE (Apr 4, 2012 12:09PM)
Magicbox in the U.K stock the 10p and 2p version
Message: Posted by: Rory111 (Apr 4, 2012 12:53PM)
Looking forward to the new DVD.... I also want to say, doing business with Mr. Tango is a pleasure!
Message: Posted by: AdamChance (Apr 4, 2012 01:49PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-03 16:56, Mr. Tango wrote:
Friends, I wanted to have the new DVD ready for April, but two months ago I crashed my medium right finger nail when I was rowing in the river, (I go every day to row) and I was waiting that the nail went back to his natural color.
After 2 months waiting I think that it can take so much time to come back to his natura colour, just my nail is not in his best stetic situation for a video. But I can't wait more, because I receive e-mails every day asking for the "coin across" routine that everybody saw at Wizard Product Review, so I have to take a desicion: to put as title of the DVDs "Black Nail Series" or to paint my nails to shoot the video. I think that I will do the second one.

The idea is to introduce a series of DVDs, called TUC Miracles, at least 4 volumes:
1- Coin Acroos routines
2- Matrix routines
3- Coin penetrations
4- 3 fly routine

So, I will start with the "Coin across" volume next week.
[/quote]

just an idea... if you want, you can upload just your coins across video to a website that requires people to enter a password in order to view the video. that way, you can get some feedback from the magic community and it will tide people over until the full dvd is released. and you can remove the video after a week or two.
Message: Posted by: AdamChance (Apr 4, 2012 01:55PM)
Another idea I had was to do some routines with the TUC and an expanded shell. the metal 3 dvd by eric jones has some great effects that use a flipper and a shell that can also be done with a TUC and shell.

and will there be an okito box routine?
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Apr 5, 2012 09:59AM)
Yes, I forget a volume with TUC and other accessories, as Slippery shell, Expanded shell, Okito box, act.
Actually I perform a routine with a okito box. Good Idea
Message: Posted by: shouksmiths (Apr 5, 2012 12:54PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-04 03:35, shouksmiths wrote:
Hi Mr Tango.Do you personally make all of your coins? Or due to the quantity needed is there a team of people who make them for you?
[/quote]

Hi Mr Tango. Any thoughts on this this? Cheers. Mark
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Apr 5, 2012 11:52PM)
Tango Magic distributes a heck of a lot of gaffed coins world wide. I highly doubt that any one person is making all of their TUCs. My guess is that he either has a manufacturing plant where all his gaffs are made, and/or outsources some of the work to other facilities. I don’t see how one person could make all of the TUCs he offers. If Mr. Tango is indeed making all of them himself, it must be in between saving the world and visits to his Fortress of Solitude. ;) lol!

Jim
Message: Posted by: shouksmiths (Apr 6, 2012 01:58AM)
Hi Jim. Daft question to ask ! I wasn't sure of the volumes they made. I know some other coins are made by individuals who have a good reputation. I wasn't sure if Tango coins fell into this category. It might explain why commented to me that the coins are sometimes of variable quality.
Message: Posted by: shouksmiths (Apr 6, 2012 02:03AM)
Just to clarify in my last post I wasn't saying that TUCs are of variable quality.
Message: Posted by: Mb217 (Apr 6, 2012 10:27AM)
Jmac is correct here, without me even checking with Mr. Tango...No way he can provide every coin ordered. Clearly he has a machine in place producing all this. Just common sense.

As to variable quality, well that can happen when many hands help make the soup. It also would explain why you get your orders relatively quicker than with other craftsman. A lot of those other guys are actually producing this stuff themselves, which can slow things down tremendously. In doing all the work themselves (sorta like a Todd Lassen seems to do) it obviously takes longer to produce which would also drive up prices. Think about it, Mr. Tango offers his gaffs at lower prices and you get them faster, but quality at times can be an issue because it's not just him making these things, he certainly doesn't make most of them. He wouldn't be able to keep up with the demand which would hurt sales and clearly his sales ain't hurtin' :D So you see, it's all relative. What I wonder sometimes is what these craftsman think of one another. Well we know what Lassen thinks of Schoolcraft but wonder what they both think of Tango's TUC. Is it one of those, "Wish I had thought of that" or perhaps they don't think it's what all you think of it as to quality and workability. Hey, there's also Johnson Coins, which used to be middle of the road good quality stuff, still is IMHO. But they don't make all this new wave specialty stuff. Sure is an interesting business alright. Good luck to all. :)
Message: Posted by: bowers (Apr 6, 2012 12:10PM)
I think mr tango has some sons that are
involved in his coin making process.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Apr 6, 2012 06:01PM)
Unless things have changed, just daughters not involved in the business, but a wife who watches things while he is away. Yes, he has a manufacturing facility as well as his Magic School/Nightclub -- is very picky about his employees and quality issues. He manufacture a lot of Chinese type coins as well as the gaffed ones. His "small, hands-on" approach to customer service is a matter of attitude and love for the art more than "size."

When he stayed with me for four days in Knoxville, TN we spend more time shopping for gifts for his familiy than discussing magic -- and he felt it important to spend time at our table with my aged parents. You can never underestimate his passion for living that seeps into his business; making magic simple, making it affordable and making it fun.
Message: Posted by: ropeadope (Apr 7, 2012 12:42AM)
Sounds like a dedicated man to business & family Funsway.
Thanks for the insight.

John
Message: Posted by: shouksmiths (Apr 7, 2012 02:45AM)
Would that be Mr Tangos wife and some family members on his Gaff DVD?
Message: Posted by: funsway (Apr 8, 2012 05:35PM)
I just had an inspiration during Easter turkey feast. At the end of a 3Fly or other effect you can hardly pass the coins for examination or casually leave on the table, but can use a follow-up effect that Switches out the TUC. Consider this ---

You offer to allow a spectator to try the Trnasportation and place three silver coins visibly on his palm. His fist is closed, then his other hand. After appropriate magic words or gestures the second hand is opened -- Nope - no coin! The first hand is opened and the three coins spread. The center one is now copper or gold! Real magic -- just the wrong result. Congratulate the spectator on their "natural ability" as they examine the coins -- the TUC safely tucked away. The revelation that "magic is unpredictable" can segue into many other effects, and the "in my hand" memory priceless.

Any TUC can be used. PM me if you can't figure out what is being done.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Apr 8, 2012 07:24PM)
Hello friends.

I don't if it is so important to know that for everybody, but I will reply the questions about my enterprise and my family.
I was a mad coin magic man all my life, 20 years ago we started with a small magic schooll in Buenos Aires, Argentina and then with our magic bar "Bar Mágico", the only one in South American. In 2000 I started myself to make some samples of gaffed coins and in 2001 I took the first employee to help me. In 2002 when we did the first big sell to a distributer, we were working: my wife, an employee and myself working and I always remember going to the hospital with my wife when a drop of super glue jumped to her eyes.
Now, 12 years later we have 10 employes just dedicated to our factory and we invested a lot of money in the best machines, but I go every single day to my factory and I supervise personally all my products because the quality is our first objetive.
Besides we still have our "Bar Mágico" where I perform every Friday and Saturday night. We are proud to our bar, where we presents magic shows with the best Argentinean magicians in our stage saloon and our recently opened close up room.
If some of you come to Argentina, please contact me because I would be happy to invite you to my bar.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Apr 8, 2012 08:03PM)
Sounds awesome...great story and history...maybe one day ill have to travel to check out Argentina!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Apr 9, 2012 04:41PM)
Argentina has great magicians and very nice places to visit, I would like to organize a TUConclave here, but I don't now how many people could attend
Message: Posted by: funsway (Apr 9, 2012 05:53PM)
Due to the response to my above mentioned effect, I have written it up as a PDF available to any TUC owner by writing to gusarimagic@comcast.net

ANY TUC can be used
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Apr 10, 2012 09:00PM)
Great job Funsway
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Apr 15, 2012 05:05PM)
The post has 80.00 views, when we got 100.000 I will put my picture nude !

It was a joke, please continue enter here :)
Message: Posted by: bwarren3 (Apr 16, 2012 06:53PM)
Mr. Tango, I just met Gustavo Raley from Argentina and wow was I impressed. Great thinker...

Bill
Message: Posted by: bowers (Apr 22, 2012 07:31PM)
I would love to get down there one day mr tango.
Message: Posted by: ljsviol (Apr 23, 2012 06:00PM)
Mr. Tango, forum folks,
I have a Walking Liberty TUC which works really well (round m****t). But I'm having a problem working with the shimmed card supplied with the TUC.

I'm working on the Matrix effects Mr. Tango shows in his DVD. For most of the effect, the TUC is apart, and the m**n*t*c s***l is allowed to 'stick' to the shimmed card as needed (for vanishes). With my TUC s***l free to cling to the shimmed card, if I lift the card from a horizontal to vertical position, my m**n*t*c s***l slides down to the bottom of the card, and sometimes falls off of its own weight.

At the end of the routine, you secretly assemble the TUC (s***l plus in***t) and lift it up 'stuck' to the shimmed card. Most of the time, my TUC simply drops off, even if the card is held horizontally; the TUC's own weight is too much for the m****t.

Does anyone else have this issue with a half dollar TUC(I know the dollar coins are not recommended for this use.)? The m**n*t seems strong on my TUC - I can stick it to the side of a file cabinet and it doesn't move - so I don't know if shimmed cards differ in their ability to hold a m**n*t, or what else it might be.

Any ideas are appreciated. I know I've talked about a lot of inner workings here; I hope it's not too much for folks.

Larry S.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Apr 24, 2012 10:27AM)
Larry
I just can say that you have to find the correct timming to perform this effect. I do that really slow in this way I have control of the coin and the card.
Message: Posted by: ljsviol (Apr 24, 2012 11:00AM)
Mr. Tango,
Thanks for the advice. From watching carefully on your video, it seemed that some care is needed in handling; I can do that. -)

Thanks again!

Larry S.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Apr 25, 2012 06:03AM)
Just practice as everything in magic
Message: Posted by: PaulW (Apr 29, 2012 04:54AM)
I have just purchased the 2 Pound TUC and I have the same problem, however I try to steal the TUC it slides off the card, I have tried every possible way, practised and practised but the Mxgxt in my TUC is simply not strong enough to hold the combined coins on to the card......Is my TUC faulty?

Any help would be appreciated.

Paul W
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Apr 29, 2012 04:04PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-29 05:54, PaulW wrote:
I have just purchased the 2 Pound TUC and I have the same problem, however I try to steal the TUC it slides off the card, I have tried every possible way, practised and practised but the Mxgxt in my TUC is simply not strong enough to hold the combined coins on to the card......Is my TUC faulty?

Any help would be appreciated.

Paul W
[/quote]

Earlier on this thread, the following was posted:

[quote]
Posted: Feb 11, 2012 5:09pm                 
[quote]

On 2012-02-11 00:16, J-Mac wrote:
I think I know what he means, Banzai. I have an Ike TUC and it is also very loose - always has been. Loose enough that when you hold it up one edge hangs open. And if I were to hold it by the edges of the shell portion any overt move can cause the insert to fall out. When I use this TUC - which isn't very often - I have to handle it with great care. BTW, none of my half-dollar TUCs, C/S TUC, or quarter TUC are loose like that at all.

Jim
[/quote]

I have 4 TUCs (1 Morgan, 3 non-silver gaffs) and NONE are like this. You definitely got a bad one, guys. Time for a shipment to Argentina.

[/quote]

Then Mr. Tango posted the following:

[quote]
Mr. Tango Posted: Feb 13, 2012 4:37pm               
No Banzai, you are wrong, every coin work different, I can say that half of my TUC are are very loose, everything depend how the coin get adjust by self. The important is that the coin work for the effect.

[/quote]

According to what Mr. Tango wrote (and J-Mac, whose opinion I trust), there is some variation in the strength of the m****t on each coin.

Mr. Tango rightly states that there are methods to decrease the strength, by adding another layer of mouse tape, for example, but I don't know how you would adjust the strength upwards. In that case, I would probably pursue a return or repair.

Alan
Message: Posted by: bowers (Apr 29, 2012 05:05PM)
Maybe the problem isn't with the coin.
it could be the shiming of the card.
mine holds pretty good to the card
as long as I don't do it real quick.
todd
Message: Posted by: inigmntoya (Apr 29, 2012 06:37PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-29 17:04, BanzaiMagic wrote:

According to what Mr. Tango wrote (and J-Mac, whose opinion I trust), there is some variation in the strength of the m****t on each coin.

Mr. Tango rightly states that there are methods to decrease the strength, by adding another layer of mouse tape, for example, but I don't know how you would adjust the strength upwards. In that case, I would probably pursue a return or repair.
[/quote]

The "adjustment" with the tape is generally for adjusting the coin itself, not with respect to the coin and a card, though it would have a similar effect when trying to use a card on one of the coin's sides. There is no way to "strengthen" the power of the m****t other than replacing it with a stronger one.

The suggestion of a trying different card is a good one -- one with more/thicker sh** material would allow the coin to stick better, though it may be less flexible or less "normal" appearing.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Apr 29, 2012 11:16PM)
Of course smaller coins are better for that effect as quarter dollar or 10 pence coins, but I didn't have problems to perform the matrix with half dollar coins
Message: Posted by: funsway (Apr 30, 2012 03:50AM)
When I go my first TUC (used) it didnot have a card with it, so I obtained one on-line from a magic shop. I have never had a problem with it. When compared to the one that came with Quarter TUC it seems bit thicker. I doubt that Mr. Tango makes his own sh**med cards, so perhaps there is a difference from set to set of cards.

Thus, I would try a differend card before worrying about the TUC strength. I have an ancient card with a razer balde inside that if far too "attractive."
Message: Posted by: PaulW (Apr 30, 2012 03:59AM)
Very useful advice, I have been playing around with a spare shim disk and if I put it on the back of the card the full TUC sticks like glue so the magnet seems OK, I will purchase a new shim card and see if that solves the problem. Tango Magic might want to check out their shim cards.

Paul
Message: Posted by: eostresh (Apr 30, 2012 06:19AM)
I hope this hasn't already been asked but, are there any plans for a Poker Chip T.U.C.?
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (May 1, 2012 03:42AM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-30 04:50, funsway wrote:
I doubt that Mr. Tango makes his own sh**med cards
[/quote]

He does actually - one of his guys recently had a pretty bad accident; whilst cutting the shimmed metal sheeting I do believe. :(

Just to add that the Tango Shimmed Cards are the very best that I've ever seen. They compliment the quality of the T.U.C. beautifully.
Message: Posted by: Russell Davidson (May 2, 2012 09:16AM)
I have a dilema, looking for some advice. I've been considering an Ike shell for a while now. I'm reasonably skilled with coins & I like the shell as it can be shown as an individual coin. Does the TUC allow this or is it more like a flipper in that respect?
Message: Posted by: funsway (May 2, 2012 01:32PM)
Any TUC can be displayed as a normal coin, tossed from hand to hand and even placed in a spectator's hand. When Split it cannot stand close examination but the complete TUC can. In fact, one problem is "ossong" the TUC amoungs a pile of coins, but it is easy to "test" the TUC secretly in the fingertips.

Additionally, several TUC in a stack can be handled like a single coin for Loads, Ditches and many Sleights
Message: Posted by: magicinsight (May 2, 2012 02:39PM)
[quote]
On 2012-04-23 19:00, ljsviol wrote:
Mr. Tango, forum folks,
I have a Walking Liberty TUC which works really well (round m****t). But I'm having a problem working with the shimmed card supplied with the TUC.

I'm working on the Matrix effects Mr. Tango shows in his DVD. For most of the effect, the TUC is apart, and the m**n*t*c s***l is allowed to 'stick' to the shimmed card as needed (for vanishes). With my TUC s***l free to cling to the shimmed card, if I lift the card from a horizontal to vertical position, my m**n*t*c s***l slides down to the bottom of the card, and sometimes falls off of its own weight.

At the end of the routine, you secretly assemble the TUC (s***l plus in***t) and lift it up 'stuck' to the shimmed card. Most of the time, my TUC simply drops off, even if the card is held horizontally; the TUC's own weight is too much for the m****t.

Does anyone else have this issue with a half dollar TUC(I know the dollar coins are not recommended for this use.)? The m**n*t seems strong on my TUC - I can stick it to the side of a file cabinet and it doesn't move - so I don't know if shimmed cards differ in their ability to hold a m**n*t, or what else it might be.

Any ideas are appreciated. I know I've talked about a lot of inner workings here; I hope it's not too much for folks.

Larry S.
[/quote

I have the same problem with my TUCs and the shi..ed card. The coin always falls off and cannot do the matrix effect at all with the card supplied.. I will have to find another card to see if that will work. It is a great coin though.

Michael
Message: Posted by: Woland (May 2, 2012 03:33PM)
If you have any problems with any of your sh****ed cards, may I recommend the sh****d and m******c cards that you can obtain from Mimesis Magic.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (May 2, 2012 07:44PM)
I recomend to use smaller coins to make the matrix as quarter, 50 cent euro or 10 pence coins. But anyway I have to say that I use half dollar coins too and if you use the card carefully you should do it.
Message: Posted by: Russell Davidson (May 3, 2012 09:00AM)
[quote]
On 2012-05-02 14:32, funsway wrote:
Any TUC can be displayed as a normal coin, tossed from hand to hand and even placed in a spectator's hand. When Split it cannot stand close examination but the complete TUC can. In fact, one problem is "ossong" the TUC amoungs a pile of coins, but it is easy to "test" the TUC secretly in the fingertips.

Additionally, several TUC in a stack can be handled like a single coin for Loads, Ditches and many Sleights
[/quote]

What is "ossong"?

And I'm still unsure about this. When split you can't put one in one hand & one in another? And it won't stand close examination? Seems like I'd better off with just a shell surely?
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (May 3, 2012 09:43AM)
[quote]
On 2012-05-03 10:00, Russell Davidson wrote:
[quote]
On 2012-05-02 14:32, funsway wrote:
Any TUC can be displayed as a normal coin, tossed from hand to hand and even placed in a spectator's hand. When Split it cannot stand close examination but the complete TUC can. In fact, one problem is "ossong" the TUC amoungs a pile of coins, but it is easy to "test" the TUC secretly in the fingertips.

Additionally, several TUC in a stack can be handled like a single coin for Loads, Ditches and many Sleights
[/quote]

What is "ossong"?

And I'm still unsure about this. When split you can't put one in one hand & one in another? And it won't stand close examination? Seems like I'd better off with just a shell surely?
[/quote]

You can show a split TUC in two separate hands just as you can show a standard shell and insert coin. The comment about close examination means that you can not hand the TUC out (but then again, you wouldn't hand out the shell either).

Although there are many advantages to a TUC, there are some disadvantages, particularly as to the thickness of the insert. You might be wise to read some pages back on this thread.

Alan
Message: Posted by: Russell Davidson (May 3, 2012 09:52AM)
Good man Alan, exactly what I wanted to know. I'm leaning towards the shell as I don't want any difference in appearance close up & thickness is something that could be noticed. I will however make an effort to see a TUC before making a final decision.
Message: Posted by: funsway (May 3, 2012 02:38PM)
Sorry "ossong" should be "losing" -- arthritus strikes again.

I often use an EXP Sh**l in combination with the TUC -- and Tango now has a SHi***d Slippery Sam to use with the TUC. There are so many effects available for the TUC that you can select what is best for any particular audience "on the fly" and many that simply cannot be done with Sh**l alone.
Message: Posted by: bowers (May 19, 2012 09:56AM)
Ha mr tango
will the tuc dvd be out by june?
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (May 23, 2012 07:18AM)
Yes, Bowers I'm closer every day.

Congratulations Trooper for your coin across. I'm putting your link here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkP6w0gmw3M
Message: Posted by: zanoonga (May 24, 2012 07:50AM)
I just got my Swedish version of a 5-krona... Truly an ingenious product, superb quality!!
I'm so happy!
Message: Posted by: sdmagic (May 24, 2012 08:55AM)
My Morgan TUC arrived yesterday! It is fantastic! I applaud Mr. Tango for the excellent attention to detail in all of his products! If you are a TUC fan, contact Mr. Tango and have him manufacture a Morgan TUC for you. Looking forward to the new TUC DVD. Thanks Mr. Tango!!!

Sdmagic
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (May 24, 2012 12:17PM)
Thanks everybody.

The TUC works really well, if you live in Sweden contact Steen Pegani, he has TUC in stock
Message: Posted by: eddie2m (May 25, 2012 03:11AM)
I have the TUC half dollar and love it. I want Mr Tango to make a TUC using the copper walking liberty coin....It would look great. I also got Funsways book, which tells a lot of good info and is worth a read.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jun 3, 2012 05:08PM)
Hello friends, help me to get 100.000 views in this post and we'll make a incredible record in this forum.

About the customs coins, we can make ANY coin that you want, except if this coins is a coin that was invented and produce for another factory, so if you want any special coin just send me a private message.
Message: Posted by: Atom3339 (Jun 3, 2012 08:46PM)
Mr. Tango, Isn't over 85,000 views a record???
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jun 3, 2012 08:48PM)
I love my tucs as good today as when I got my first one.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Jun 3, 2012 08:49PM)
I have one...it's fun to play around with!
Message: Posted by: shadowspirit (Jun 4, 2012 01:37PM)
I just received my 2p TUC. I must say that mine can't be looked at anywhere near closely by a spectator (from the gimmicked side), let alone left in their hand! You can clearly see a gap around the Gimmicked side of the coin. Is this normal or do I have a dud?
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Jun 4, 2012 03:55PM)
I don't have a problem 'flashing' the other side of the 2p version BUT it won't stand careful examination in the same manner that some of the other versions will.

Also, I'd recommend that you look for some older, non-magnetic 2p coins in your change and put these aside. Due to the newer UK copper coins being 'ferromagnetic' (attracted to a magnet) as they are made of steel, working with these together with a TUC can be somewhat difficult to say the least!

That said, I carry a UK 2p and a 10p TUC with me everywhere these days. It does literally any effect possible with coins - it's the greatest gaffed coin to ever hit the market. It takes some degree of practice to get your TUC effects to look 'clean' but every minute of practice is more than worthwhile.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jun 4, 2012 05:11PM)
The coins across is so clean looking
with the tuc.
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Jun 4, 2012 05:15PM)
[quote]
On 2012-06-04 18:11, bowers wrote:
The coins across is so clean looking
with the tuc.
[/quote]

Most definitely Todd - but with the standard 2p coin in circulation now being attracted to magnets, think of the additional handling problems it creates.

"Eyy upppp me lad it's a bloody nightmare"! ;)
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Jun 4, 2012 05:22PM)
[quote]
On 2012-06-04 18:11, bowers wrote:
The coins across is so clean looking
with the tuc.
[/quote]

100% agree!! I love it!!
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jun 4, 2012 05:25PM)
I agree barry but great with american coins though.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Jun 4, 2012 05:38PM)
The TUC is a great device with US Currency. It's works flawlessly with my Walking Liberty TUC...my only complaint when I bought it was that both the shell and leaf were not colored the same. The patina on the shell was dark and the insert was shiny. So I needed to fix that right away
Message: Posted by: magicbern (Jun 4, 2012 07:42PM)
I have several of Tango's products - 2 expanded Kennedy half, 2 TUCs (Ike and Kennedy), Hopping half and Dollar Size Brass Boston Box. The worksmanship is superb and the TUC works like a dream!

I just contacted MR tango about making a TUC Morgan and his reply was almost instantaneous - what excellent pre-customer service! So how can you NOT want to order from him? In this day and age its great to have such responsive and enthusiastic service! I'm a Tango Magic Fan!!!
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Jun 5, 2012 03:33AM)
[quote]
On 2012-06-04 18:25, bowers wrote:
I agree barry but great with american coins though.
[/quote]

Agree with you 100% on that - although I've since sold my initial quarter & half dollar versions of TUC and subsequently reverted back to British Currency to appear, to use this newly adopted phrase in magic.......'More Organic' (whatever that bleedin' means!).

That said, give it a few months, and no doubt I'll be buying a walking liberty version.
Message: Posted by: shadowspirit (Jun 6, 2012 07:55AM)
[quote]
On 2012-06-04 16:55, Merc Man wrote:
I don't have a problem 'flashing' the other side of the 2p version BUT it won't stand careful examination in the same manner that some of the other versions will.

Also, I'd recommend that you look for some older, non-magnetic 2p coins in your change and put these aside. Due to the newer UK copper coins being 'ferromagnetic' (attracted to a magnet) as they are made of steel, working with these together with a TUC can be somewhat difficult to say the least!

That said, I carry a UK 2p and a 10p TUC with me everywhere these days. It does literally any effect possible with coins - it's the greatest gaffed coin to ever hit the market. It takes some degree of practice to get your TUC effects to look 'clean' but every minute of practice is more than worthwhile.
[/quote]

Merc Man,

I'm not doubting it's usefulness or it's cleverness. It's just a shame that I don't feel happy using it! I'm really conscious of that 'gap' showing. Should I give up on it or buy one of the US versions? How is the 10p?

PS Although I'm new to this forum I'm not new to magic and have been performing for 15 years. I'm still learning every day, of course, and want to learn to use this gimmick but my version doesn't fill me with confidence!

SS
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Jun 6, 2012 08:49AM)
SS,

The gap in the 10p version isn't so pronounced. You also haven't got the magnetic problem - so coins across, etc. is much cleaner. That said, since sorting out some older non-magnetic 2p's, my 2p TUC is a lot easier to use.

One thing that you may want to consider doing is inserting an additional teflon disc (or a small piece of teflon adhesive tape) into the shell - it certainly aids separation; particularly with the 2p version as the leaf of the coin isn't milled, and subsequently the edging is a little sharp.

Don't panic over the gap - if you are taking your TUC coin out of your pocket with a handful of loose change you don't NEED TO show both sides anyway. Don't worry about overly proving anything - to their mind, it's just a 2p coin.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Jun 6, 2012 09:15AM)
I tried the coins across on several lay people last night...fried them! TUC is good!
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Jun 6, 2012 01:22PM)
[quote]
On 2012-06-03 21:46, Atom3339 wrote:
Mr. Tango, Isn't over 85,000 views a record???
[/quote]

Nope. Several have well over 100,000 views. (Check out the original TKO thread in Latest and Greatest). Just bringing you back down to earth. :)

Jim
Message: Posted by: shadowspirit (Jun 6, 2012 01:40PM)
Merc,

Thanks, I'll stick with it for a while. I see what you mean about the leaf of the coin, it does catch a bit. I never feel the need to over prove anything and rarely hand things out, (even real coins) after all, why should I, I've got nothing to hide, right ;) You're right, if someone handed me a coin and said look, it's not a fake (either outwardly or by inference) then my reaction would be, 'okay, then what about the other four you didn't show me earlier?'
Anyway, thanks for the reassurance!
SS

BTW, taking possession of a Schoolcraft English Penny Flipper soon. Can't wait!
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jun 6, 2012 06:46PM)
There are many wasy of allowing spectaors to handle coins during a routine without "handing it out" that validates the naturalness of the coins without focusing attention. This is why "TUC Appreciation" offers several methods for Switching the TUC in and out of effects. My latest effect "TUCed Away" is available for the asking (gusarimagic@comcast.net) and allows for an ending to a TUC effect with dramatic results and "closing the door."
Message: Posted by: shadowspirit (Jun 7, 2012 04:24AM)
Funsway,

I agree! When I said I 'rarely hand things out' I really meant I don't say something like, 'here, as you can see this is just a normal coin' (or some such). If it is natural and there is a reason for doing so I do put coins in spectators hands, ask them to hold them etc.

How does one get your 'TUCed Away' effect then :) I would be delighted to give it a try!

SS
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jun 7, 2012 06:52AM)
Send a request to gusarimagic@comcast.net

PS to those who have it. Get some inexpensive gold coins that you can gift to the spectator -- or even better, ones imprinted with your name/address. When a spectator is the "hero" in a magic effect they think they own the thing produced ;-)
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Jun 7, 2012 07:18AM)
SS - if you want to PM me your address, I'll put a little strip of teflon tape in the post to you to try out.

You may find that the TUC then subsequently separates easier.
Message: Posted by: magicbern (Jun 8, 2012 09:47PM)
On 2012-02-11 00:16, J-Mac wrote:
I think I know what he means, Banzai. I have an Ike TUC and it is also very loose - always has been. Loose enough that when you hold it up one edge hangs open. And if I were to hold it by the edges of the shell portion any overt move can cause the insert to fall out. When I use this TUC - which isn't very often - I have to handle it with great care. BTW, none of my half-dollar TUCs, C/S TUC, or quarter TUC are loose like that at all.

Jim
[/quote]

I have 4 TUCs (1 Morgan, 3 non-silver gaffs) and NONE are like this. You definitely got a bad one, guys. Time for a shipment to Argentina.

[/quote]

Then Mr. Tango posted the following:

[quote]
Mr. Tango Posted: Feb 13, 2012 4:37pm               
No Banzai, you are wrong, every coin work different, I can say that half of my TUC are are very loose, everything depend how the coin get adjust by self. The important is that the coin work for the effect.

[/quote]

According to what Mr. Tango wrote (and J-Mac, whose opinion I trust), there is some variation in the strength of the m****t on each coin.

Mr. Tango rightly states that there are methods to decrease the strength, by adding another layer of mouse tape, for example, but I don't know how you would adjust the strength upwards. In that case, I would probably pursue a return or repair.

Alan
[/quote]

Hi

I also received a TUC Eisenhower Dollar that was really loose. If you give it a light shake it will dislodge. Wondering if all Ike's were like this or just the ones purchased from dealers. I bought mine from Penguin Magic.

My TUC Kennedy half doesn't have this problem.. So what can be done about it? Any advice?
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jun 8, 2012 10:23PM)
I have a tuc in morgen 3 ike tucs
1 walking liberty 2 kennedy tucs
a copper silver and a silver copper tuc
and none of these are loose.i would say
most are too strong and I have had to add
extra tape over the magnet to loosen them up.
todd
Message: Posted by: shadowspirit (Jun 10, 2012 03:57PM)
[quote]
On 2012-06-07 07:52, funsway wrote:
Send a request to gusarimagic@comcast.net

PS to those who have it. Get some inexpensive gold coins that you can gift to the spectator -- or even better, ones imprinted with your name/address. When a spectator is the "hero" in a magic effect they think they own the thing produced ;-)
[/quote]

Request sent and instructions received. THANKS!

Haven't had a chance to look at it properly yet but it looks good!

SS
Message: Posted by: shadowspirit (Jun 10, 2012 04:03PM)
[quote]
On 2012-06-07 08:18, Merc Man wrote:
SS - if you want to PM me your address, I'll put a little strip of teflon tape in the post to you to try out.

You may find that the TUC then subsequently separates easier.
[/quote]

!! THANKS !!

I've PM'd you and appreciate it!

SS
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Jun 11, 2012 05:55AM)
It's in the post to you today fella.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Jun 11, 2012 07:45AM)
Another fine example of Magicians helping magicians on this forum! I would say this is probably my favorite forum on the internet!
Message: Posted by: AdamChance (Jun 12, 2012 01:22AM)
So what's everyone's favourite trick to do with a TUC?
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Jun 12, 2012 03:28AM)
Stand Up - Coins to Glass

Quickie/bar trick - Coin Thru Note (bill); shown to me by Mr. Tango. Not the one on the current DVD (but it's probably going to be on the updated TUC DVD).

How it looks -
- show just one coin and one note
- separate the coin as note is shown both sides
- lay note flat on table clearly over the top of the coin (leaf) that you've also put on the table (or their hand)
- shell is now in classic or finger palm
- wave hand over note, drop palmed coin on top of note - giving the impression it's risen up and penetrated upwards
- pick up note by the extreme edge (leaf under note adheres to the shell on top)
- throw across coin(s) that's now (apparently) risen up through the note into your other hand
- the leaf and shell join automatically together as they arrive in your palm.
Message: Posted by: cafezingo (Jun 12, 2012 05:20AM)
Those who would like to try another shimmed card might consider the Shimmed Card 2.0. It's shimmed across almost the entire card, and is exactly the weight and thickness of a regular card. The card costs about $10. The one that I had bought earlier was $5, and was not shimmed uniformly, and was thicker and more rigid than a standard card.

Most places don't let you select the card that you'll receive ... I received a Joker. (At first, receiving a Joker bothered me, since I generally don't do effects with that card. However, for coin-thru-card and similar effects, the Joker provides additional patter opportunities.)

This card will hold a Johnson shimmed half-dollar OK, and release it easily when the card is hit on the reverse side with a PK ring.
Message: Posted by: shadowspirit (Jun 12, 2012 02:04PM)
Just wanted to thank Merc Man for all his help - your tops!
Also, FunSway, thanks for your routine!

SS
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Jun 12, 2012 06:17PM)
[quote]
On 2012-06-12 02:22, AdamChance wrote:
So what's everyone's favourite trick to do with a TUC?
[/quote]

Coins across using the TUC is magical
Message: Posted by: magicbern (Jun 12, 2012 10:06PM)
From the videos I've seen that's true, but how would it compare with, say, Come Fly With Me by Mark Mason?
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jun 13, 2012 12:28PM)
I start ALL MY SHOWS, with my 3 fly coin, using the TUC Morgan dollar, it is the only version where you can give the 3 cons to be checked and you can show your hands after every trip
Message: Posted by: Flyswatter (Jun 13, 2012 05:55PM)
Mr. Tango or anyone else could perhaps help me, is there anyway to improve my first Gen TUC that has a square mag instead of a circle? It's really hard to open the [...and it's quite noisy when you handle the coin from hand to hand, is it normal?
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jun 14, 2012 03:25AM)
[quote]
On 2012-06-13 13:28, Mr. Tango wrote:
and you can show your hands after every trip
[/quote]

I think he means you can show that you do not have any extra coin in hand after each trip/phase (shutting the door) and is done as part of the flow -- never just a demonstration. Nor does this imply that you should have the coins checked. The "knowledge" that they could be handed out at the end effects you presense during the presentation. Several different effect allow you to display the hands "clean" between phases. By starting with one of them he "sets the tone" for later effects. You must always teach the audience what is "normal" for you and the setting.

I dislike a simple comparison of different methods or gaffs for this reason. The greater question of how it plays as part of an entire routine or show is more critical

This is a point never stressed enough -- the confidence one has when performing with the TUC is part of the illusion.
Message: Posted by: shadowspirit (Jun 14, 2012 07:20AM)
[quote]
On 2012-06-11 06:55, Merc Man wrote:
It's in the post to you today fella.
[/quote]

Merc Man

Arrived and fitted and working like a dream!
Much more confident handling the TUC as it now separates when I expect it to, 100%!

Funsway

I'll have ago at your routine now :)


Thanks

SS
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jun 14, 2012 07:25PM)
Mr tango
have you thought about making a dollar size silver copper tuc?
I think it would go over well.
todd
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jun 22, 2012 08:22AM)
About the Dollar copper coins, I got today some samples of coins that a costumer send me and it looks greats. They are a copper American coin as the One dollar Liberty but in copper and I will see if I can get a good quantity of them to produce a whole line, as Copper silver, TUC one dollar copper and silver, Hopping half, etc.
But it will be after the FISM. I decide to stop coin project after the FISM, I will be there and I will present at close up contest and all my energy is there for now.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jul 1, 2012 05:20PM)
Hello Friends, I will be at FISM next week, if some of you are there please come to my stand to say hello.


Bye
Message: Posted by: ljsviol (Jul 1, 2012 08:53PM)
[quote]
On 2012-06-22 09:22, Mr. Tango wrote:
About the Dollar copper coins, I got today some samples of coins that a costumer send me and it looks greats. They are a copper American coin as the One dollar Liberty but in copper and I will see if I can get a good quantity of them to produce a whole line, as Copper silver, TUC one dollar copper and silver, Hopping half, etc.
[/quote]

Mr. Tango,
There seem to be a *lot* of 1 oz copper coins being produced nowadays (partly to sell copper bullion as an 'investment'); some have Walking Liberty obverses, some Morgan dollar, some Peace dollar, Mercury dime, Buffalo nickel, and many other patterns (some for novelty purposes). Here's a link to one seller and the variety of copper coins there:

http://www.providentmetals.com/bullion/copper/1-avdp-ounce.html

( I've never dealt with them, so this is not a recommendation, just an example. )

There might be something you can use there; searching the net for "copper bullion coins" would probably bring up many others.

Larry S.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Jul 2, 2012 05:38AM)
Larry..these actually look really nice..can probably do some nice copper/silver transpo's with these coins...I may look into buying some walkers and morgans
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jul 11, 2012 06:20PM)
I will try after FISM, I'm in Blackpool now, I had part at close up contest yesterday with my TUC, waiting now the judges decision.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Jul 11, 2012 06:51PM)
[quote]
On 2012-07-11 19:20, Mr. Tango wrote:
I will try after FISM, I'm in Blackpool now, I had part at close up contest yesterday with my TUC, waiting now the judges decision.
[/quote]

Good luck! I know you will post the results.
Message: Posted by: eddie2m (Jul 11, 2012 07:36PM)
I got the copper walking liberty from provident and it was fast shipping. I had Mr. Tango make up a TUC, copper/silver(eisenhower), and s*****y shell. When I get the. coins I will let you know
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jul 11, 2012 07:50PM)
[quote]
On 2012-07-11 20:36, eddie2m wrote:
I got the copper walking liberty from provident and it was fast shipping. I had Mr. Tango make up a TUC, copper/silver(eisenhower), and s*****y shell. When I get the. coins I will let you know
[/quote]

send me a request to gusarimagci@comcast.net and I'll send you an exciting C/S TUC effect not in the Book. It is especially powerful because the final move is to vanish the coin from the spectator's hand -- something some notable magicians say cannot be done.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jul 11, 2012 08:17PM)
[quote]
On 2012-07-11 20:36, eddie2m wrote:
I got the copper walking liberty from provident and it was fast shipping. I had Mr. Tango make up a TUC, copper/silver(eisenhower), and s*****y shell. When I get the. coins I will let you know
[/quote]

ha eddie
what copper coin did you use for
the eisenhower copper- silver coin?
todd
Message: Posted by: eddie2m (Jul 11, 2012 09:22PM)
I used the copper walking liberty bullion coin
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jul 11, 2012 09:41PM)
Nice combination eddie
Message: Posted by: Atom3339 (Jul 12, 2012 12:31AM)
I like the copper WL bullion coin. It's a VERY nice contrast in a CS routine with Ikes OR Morgans. For those unacquainted it is slightly thicker and heavier than a silver dollar! Great coin for strengthening your palms!
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jul 12, 2012 05:25PM)
I agree completely it is a beautiful coin.
great for a spellbound routein.
Message: Posted by: Blacksmith64 (Jul 12, 2012 05:50PM)
I got to handle a Tango Ultimate coin a little while ago and something about it confuses me. When I held it between thumb and forefinger the one part sort of "rocked" out of the [. Is that right?
To my inexperience, it means that it would be very difficult to hold the coin without giving away the secret to the spectator.

Or, am I just misunderstanding it completely? It's the reason I didn't buy it to be honest, despite the excellent reviews it's received.
Message: Posted by: pabloinus (Jul 12, 2012 06:10PM)
I believe the TUC you handle was pushed to much on the shel downward to facilitate the release of the insert, but now the insert is sitting too much on a pointy surface, hope you can see it.
If you press back on the shell from the inside, the shell will become flatter and the rocket moves should diminishes, of course the more flat the more difficlut for theinsert to be released.
You need to play with that until younhave the right coin for you
Pablo
Message: Posted by: eddie2m (Jul 12, 2012 08:24PM)
Yea. I cant wait to get it. Whats the best way to clean copper coins?
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jul 14, 2012 08:42PM)
Hello Friends,

I won the INVENTION PRIZE at FISM 2012 with my TUC, I'M SO HAPPY ....
Message: Posted by: Andre Hagen (Jul 14, 2012 08:54PM)
Small wonder Mr. tango. The TUC is revolutionary.

Congratulations!

Andre
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Jul 14, 2012 09:16PM)
Great news Mr. Tango!
Congratulations.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Jul 14, 2012 09:39PM)
Excellent news Mr Tango! Great Job!
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jul 14, 2012 10:32PM)
Congratulations mr tango
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jul 14, 2012 10:36PM)
I presented my routine about the Judas Betrayal at the close up contest and in invention and the prize was in invention.
Thank you very much FISM organization.
Message: Posted by: eddie2m (Jul 15, 2012 12:43AM)
Good job Mr Tango!!!
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jul 15, 2012 02:28AM)
This isn't just about the incredible TUC, but the charm with which Marcello presents it -- one instantly knows the passion that went into the years of development.

Bravo!
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Jul 15, 2012 05:04AM)
Congratulations Marcello - a well-earned reward for the time and effort that you've put into producing this true masterpiece of coin magic. :applause:
Message: Posted by: magicbern (Jul 15, 2012 08:43AM)
Congratulations Mr Tango - an invention award well-deserved as your TUC has truly revolutionized certain aspects of coin magic! May this award inspire you to even greater heights!
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jul 15, 2012 07:02PM)
This coin is here to stay.
it has change coin magic for sure.
and giving different options for coin effects.
todd
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jul 16, 2012 06:27AM)
One of these options, not stressed much, is effects performed in the spectator's hand. For example:

two coins become one in a spectator's hand

a coin vanished from a spectaor's hand

coins placed in your hand by a spectator changed in some way

changes in the hands of several spectatators

masking of other coins than the TUC

..........

There are many "magicians of note" who are wary of such effects because of an apparent risk of the spectator opening their hand too soon or allowing the spectator to be the hero in an effect. Since the TUC can be handled like a normal coin (flipped in the air, etc) -- such concerns are minimalized as the psychological ploys of Inference and Implication can be enhanced.

In short, the number of effects that I perform of the "In Their Hand" genre has increased profoundly since discovering the TUC.

Maybe there has to be a book ;-)

In the mean time, a free effect along this line using a TUC is available for free to anyone here who can give me a reason why they should have it, and type of effect desired (C/S, Dollar, Quarter, etc)

requests to gusarimagic@comcast.net

as always, a commitment to feedback is required

Once again -- TUC Huzzah!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jul 16, 2012 12:26PM)
I'm so happy celebrating with my family and friends and I have to say that I wanted to wait after FISM congress to make my new DVD, because I had the hope to get the prize. So, now I will work hard to make the best DVD possible and very soon.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO EVERYBODY, PART OF THE PRIZE IS YOURS.
Message: Posted by: Mb217 (Jul 16, 2012 12:35PM)
Congrats Mr. Tango, I read about your great win at FISM. Good job and well-deserved. The TUC is wonderful creativity and helps put some marvelous effects in the hands of those that like the gaff stuff. Even those that prefer SOH recognize the accoplishment and have fun mixing in both. I've been playing lately with your Morgan TUC, very nicely made and works nicely as to the action of it. I can truly understand how so many here have various TUCs. Hope the other craftsman out there extend a hand of congrats now as to your accomplishment. Winning anything at FISM is a real accomplishment to be duly noted and respected. Good job! :)
Message: Posted by: sdmagic (Jul 16, 2012 12:38PM)
Congratulations sir! It's about time your invention is recognized! Looking forward to the new DVD. You have changed coin magic forever!

sdmagic
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jul 16, 2012 05:46PM)
Ha mb so you have a morgen tuc.
me too it is a very good handling coin.
the action on it is better than any other
tuc I own.i think some of it is due to the weight.
todd
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Jul 16, 2012 09:09PM)
Something makes me want a Morgan TUC...I think it would be awesome for the coins across I did on here a while back (The Mr Tango Version) What I really want to see with a TUC is a video of funsway doing a coin through picture frame with the TUC...i think that would be awesome!
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jul 22, 2012 07:20AM)
Posting here so that you'all don't forget this is the main place for discussing the TUC -- for search continuity and inspiration.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jul 22, 2012 11:59AM)
I beleive the tuc will be just as popular
10 years from now as it is now.and will continue
to rank just as important as the regular shell.
what are your thoughts on this.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jul 22, 2012 06:52PM)
Possibly even more so --

I feel that many magicians have not pursued coin magic to the extent of their abilties because the Sleights appeared too difficult or the gaffs priced beyond reach. Both the ability to perform profound coin magic effects with "less than perfect hands" and an affordable option are "within reach" because of the TUC.

Once the confidence and practice ethic are established, I hope that each performer will then go onto more difficult effects, with or without he TUC. For persons like myself who lost much of their hand mobility, the TUC brought me back to coin magic.

This special device is not just an innovation -- it is the tool of innovation. In a sense, the TUC removes many excuses and rewards whatever level of skill one works for. I will never give up my C/S or Exp Sh**l -- but look for ways to use them effectively with the TUC and because of the TUC.

Marcello's real goal is, "Better magic made simple!" ask him. The TUC isn't the result of a dream -- it is BECAUSE of a dream.
Message: Posted by: eddie2m (Jul 31, 2012 11:44PM)
I just recieved my walking liberty copper TUC. It is great and works so well. The weight makes it work so much better than the smaller half dollar. It just slides into place with the ma**et.The copper(walking liberty) and silver(ike) coin I also recieved looks awesome. I don't know too many tricks other than nightmare coins and hopping halves.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Aug 1, 2012 04:17AM)
There is a book out ... ;-)

write me at gusarimagic@comcast.net and I'll send you an effect not in the book for the C/S
Message: Posted by: bowers (Aug 1, 2012 12:42PM)
Just received my english penny tuc today
which completes my tuc collection.it worked
perfect right out of the package.
todd
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Aug 1, 2012 09:37PM)
Todd you have Every TUC??
Message: Posted by: bowers (Aug 1, 2012 09:47PM)
Yea dan and then some.lol
Message: Posted by: Kennard (Aug 2, 2012 04:25AM)
Hi guys I'm new here :D I've been quite interested in some 3 coin production then vanish and coins across, reading from the glowing praise I'm sure its a good gaff. But the thing is, I've also been looking at Johnny Wong's super triple coin and I'm torn between the two, before I buy them I want to be sure that I'm getting the one that fits my need. I won't be able to try out the gaff so I have a problem here, could anyone help by telling me which of the two is more versatile? Thanks :)
Message: Posted by: funsway (Aug 2, 2012 05:41AM)
I can't properly comment on the Wong coin (never seen one), but know that the number of effects available for the TUC is far greater -- and growing.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 2, 2012 08:16AM)
360, you can perform that effect with only one TUC and 3 regular coins
Message: Posted by: Kennard (Aug 2, 2012 08:26AM)
Hmmm... Seems like I'll be getting the TUC then and it's cheaper too :)
Message: Posted by: Vthegreatone (Aug 2, 2012 12:16PM)
How many TUC does a magician need to buy to feel complete. It sounds pretty nifty from all the reviews, but I want a realistic price for a complete set. I know it's not hopping halves, but clearly, these hits on this device sounds legit.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Aug 2, 2012 12:38PM)
Well I guess one only needs one coin or one set of coins
to do the job.but I use and collect coin sets.
my favorites to collect are shell sets [all of them]
cbs sets - hopping half sets and of course tucs.
I also love the johnny wong coins too.
todd
Message: Posted by: Vthegreatone (Aug 2, 2012 01:17PM)
Thanks much Bowers
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Aug 2, 2012 04:26PM)
[quote]
On 2012-08-02 13:16, Vthegreatone wrote:
How many TUC does a magician need to buy to feel complete. It sounds pretty nifty from all the reviews, but I want a realistic price for a complete set. I know it's not hopping halves, but clearly, these hits on this device sounds legit.
[/quote]

To some extent, the answer depends on what you use normally and what you will be using the gaff for.

Some Magicians use only Silver coins (Morgans, Walking Liberty halves). If so, that's the one you want to get. If you are performing in front of a significantly sized audience, the larger the coin the better. Figure out the use first, then buy the gaff.

Remember, unless you are a collector like Bower, less is more with gaffs. Do yourself a favor and focus on sleights first and strive to make ringing in a gaff rare in your set. As Dave Neighbors always says, only use a gaff when you really want to blow their socks off, the rest should be slights.

Alan
Message: Posted by: Kennard (Aug 4, 2012 07:32AM)
Just to confirm, so when using the TUC I should be able to confidently move the coin around, show the edges, flip, toss and just handle it like a single unit without any fear of it coming apart unless I intentionally want it to?
Message: Posted by: bowers (Aug 4, 2012 08:17AM)
Yes that is true 360 I handle mine just like a regular coin.
todd
Message: Posted by: funsway (Aug 7, 2012 06:21AM)
[quote]
On 2012-08-04 08:32, 360 wrote:
Just to confirm, so when using the TUC I should be able to confidently move the coin around, show the edges, flip, toss and just handle it like a single unit without any fear of it coming apart unless I intentionally want it to?
[/quote]

I loaned one of my TUC's to a fellow magician nearby -- which he immediately lost amongst some other coins and it took him days to discover which was the TUC. He said, "I am not sure what is so special about this coin." I am still chuckling.

My intitial attraction to the TUC was that I could perform some of my Sway Moves that require a physical tossing of the coin from one hand to the other. Most other gaffs don't allow this.
Message: Posted by: Kennard (Aug 7, 2012 08:31AM)
Hmmm.. If its that convincing then I think it's worth checking out.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Aug 7, 2012 10:14AM)
It's an awesome coin. Coins across looks great!!
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Aug 7, 2012 10:33AM)
[quote]
On 2012-08-07 07:21, funsway wrote:

My intitial attraction to the TUC was that I could perform some of my Sway Moves that require a physical tossing of the coin from one hand to the other. Most other gaffs don't allow this.
[/quote]

Really? I can physically toss just about any gaffed coin I own from one hand to the other cleanly. (Mentally too!!) Seriously, though: which gaffed coins can't you toss hand to hand cleanly Ken? I'm curious as to what kind of problem you're having.

Thank you.

Jim
Message: Posted by: funsway (Aug 8, 2012 07:04PM)
Just using an Exp Sh**l mostly -- sometimes CSB. I tried a Fl***r but couldn't control it.

Some of it is a confidence thing, I can perform a sleight ten times with no problem -- then suddenly cramp up or not be able to feel where the coin is in my hand. Dropping any gaff coin is not kool -- so, I quit using Gaffs an focused on simpler things and almost quit doing coin effects. MB chnaged that and then tim joined in -- working with me on alternative moves.

Then a TUC appeared for sale on the Café' and I took a chance. Suddenly I could do all sorts of effects that I ustacould.

I didn't clarify -- I need to Toss the coin undetected during normal hand motions. Since eye contact is elsewhere I need the confidence that the entire coin will arrive in one piece and my being able to transfer into various Palm positions.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Aug 8, 2012 07:30PM)
I can toss it to the other hand but not all the time.
and sometimes when it hits the other hand the shell
will bounch off of the inner coin.with my tuc it stays
on every time.and will unlock in a second when I want it too.
but I still love my shell also.they both have their place in magic.
as does the flipper slippery sam and c/s coins.
todd
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Aug 8, 2012 08:28PM)
Most shell sets by Lassen or Schoolcraft will stay together easily without any worries due to the way they are gaffed. Flippers? Never had a problem tossing them; flippers will stay closed unless you drop it. Copper/Silver? Split coins? Most gaffs I own are easily tossed.

Jim
Message: Posted by: funsway (Aug 9, 2012 04:12AM)
I am sure you are correct. I just never had any of these, nor any motivation to get them. For fifty years my only gaffs were a Hooked Coin. An EXP [ and a C/S. I was happily ignorant of the possibilities of other gaffs. My focus was always "small object" magic and coins were just one of many 'found objects" to perform with. I performed the same effects with stones, nuts, candy kisses or coins. Not much need for gaffs. My excitement was creating new moves and sleights for one-on-one presentations of magic in settings "other than entertainment." In 2007 I finally got a copy of BoBo's and discovered that many of these moves had names. Others did not and may be "truly original" with me. Unfortunately, arthritus became more real than any desire to perform coin magic.

The TUC and some mentoring help changed that. Some other quality gaff might have done the same. There was a lot of excitement over the TUC but no one seemed to be creating any new effects -- just using the ones that came with the DVD. I created six new ones (different ones) and sent them to Marcelo. The rest is history. Current count of new TUC effects is 43.

I still create new effects using the TUC but am less inspired since there is so little feedback on existing effects. If I ever get a ShimSlip I may get busy again. For now I am rebuilding a home to take better care of my aging Dad -- a different magic. I can still hold a hammer if not a coin. But the mind never rests ...
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 9, 2012 09:39AM)
Oh my god 94.000 views !! We have to get the 100.000 !
Message: Posted by: Kennard (Aug 9, 2012 06:18PM)
Ha Mr Tango I'm sure we'll get there ;)
Message: Posted by: Kennard (Aug 10, 2012 08:27AM)
Oh finally made my decision, going to put down an order for this soon... Looking forward to getting it!
Message: Posted by: Kennard (Aug 14, 2012 04:19AM)
Finally got my coin... I have to say I'm quite impressed :D some nifty work done Mr. Tango! I have a tango shimmed shell to go with it and now I have 3 coins in one, a budget triple threat for people with shallower pockets haha.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 16, 2012 02:05PM)
Be happy 360
I decided to include the new DVD with the TUC free cost for the people that buy the coin in the future, so I will replace the original one for this one and I will sell the DVD without the coins too.
I ask you help to decide how to call the DVD, I have some ideas:
TUC FISM prize
TUC Invention champion DVD
TUC miracles

Please friends I accept suggestions
Message: Posted by: bowers (Aug 16, 2012 08:15PM)
I like [tuc miracles] myself.
todd
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Aug 16, 2012 09:53PM)
"TUC'd In For The Night"

:)

Jim
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Aug 16, 2012 11:24PM)
I might have to buy a new TUC lol
Message: Posted by: Kennard (Aug 17, 2012 06:34AM)
TUC Miracles, definitely. Working on the coins across with the TUC now, but I have to get over the performer's guilt when the second coin is left on the table for a brief moment after the final travel. Just have question for those who use the coin for performances, have you guys ever been questioned about the thickness of the second coin?
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Aug 17, 2012 11:55AM)
People never notice the thickness. Remember the TUC is just another coin. Treat it as such!
Message: Posted by: manreb (Aug 17, 2012 01:53PM)
Jim

You have my vote.

good night
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 17, 2012 04:50PM)
The thickness is not a problem in the coin across because the insert is always in you hand. Be patient and you will see my routine.
Jim you wanted to say "TUCked In For The Night" ?
Message: Posted by: eddie2m (Aug 17, 2012 06:42PM)
How bout sTUCk on my mind....
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Aug 17, 2012 11:11PM)
[quote]
On 2012-08-17 17:50, Mr. Tango wrote:
The thickness is not a problem in the coin across because the insert is always in you hand. Be patient and you will see my routine.
Jim you wanted to say "TUCked In For The Night" ?
[/quote]

Kinda, but I wanted "TUC" to be more prominent. Plus, yours looks too close to... uh... well... might be confused with a more vulgar word??

Jim
Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Aug 17, 2012 11:47PM)
The Tango Ultimate DVD
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Aug 18, 2012 01:19AM)
Ultimate TUC DVD
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Aug 18, 2012 01:40AM)
Ultimate Routines for TUC
Message: Posted by: Kennard (Aug 18, 2012 05:41AM)
A Tango with Coins: The ultimate DVD
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 18, 2012 10:11AM)
But I use ultimate for many product yet, TUC, TUR, etc. And actually we can't say that something is ultimate with a DVD of routines, because TUC always will give us surprise, I think that I will go with TUC miracles, but why not:
TUCked miracles !
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Aug 18, 2012 11:29AM)
[quote]
On 2012-08-18 00:47, Chessmann wrote:
The Tango Ultimate DVD
[/quote]

Aw c'mon folks! Too many "Ultimate" products in magic. (Usually none of them actually are!)

Besides, Chess - if Tango Ultimate Coin = TUC, then Tango Ultimate DVD = TUD. TUD?!

Jim
Message: Posted by: sdmagic (Aug 18, 2012 12:44PM)
WTC (What The Tuc)...

sdmagic
Message: Posted by: Zombie Magic (Aug 18, 2012 01:34PM)
Mr. Tango, will you teach the routine you did for Tim Trono using no cards, just your hands ala David Roth?

http://www.murphysmagic.com/Product.aspx?id=45074
Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Aug 18, 2012 01:53PM)
[quote]
On 2012-08-18 12:29, J-Mac wrote:
[quote]
On 2012-08-18 00:47, Chessmann wrote:
The Tango Ultimate DVD
[/quote]

Aw c'mon folks! Too many "Ultimate" products in magic. (Usually none of them actually are!)

Besides, Chess - if Tango Ultimate Coin = TUC, then Tango Ultimate DVD = TUD. TUD?!

Jim
[/quote]

Too many "ultimate" products in magic....like the Tango Ultimate Coin? LOL!

Jim, did you not even notice Marcelo's first thoughts re: the DVD's names? Obviously, it does not follow that a DVD must follow the acronym style of a product - even moreso in a case like this. Your mind is shooting where it doesn't need to go :)
Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Aug 18, 2012 05:20PM)
Actually, Jim - to be truly honest - I'm just setting up everything. I'm trying to influence the name of a potential marked deck Tango may introduced in the future - the Tango Ultimate Reader's Deck!

:P
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Aug 18, 2012 11:22PM)
^
:bg:
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 20, 2012 05:50PM)
I promise that TUC and TUR were my ultimates of products with ultimate as name. Good Idea Chessman :)
Message: Posted by: Vthegreatone (Aug 21, 2012 12:50PM)
So...where's the lowest costing and fastest way to get one in half dollar size?
Message: Posted by: bowers (Aug 21, 2012 04:22PM)
Penquin magic they are the cheapest and fastest.
todd
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Aug 21, 2012 04:39PM)
Or madhatter! I bought a walking liberty TUC for 130
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 21, 2012 06:38PM)
Sorry but this price for a walking liberty TUC is really suspect, because the magic store pay $ 120 for a walking liberty TUC. please check that the TUC was made with real silver coins
Message: Posted by: funsway (Aug 23, 2012 07:41AM)
Wow! do we have to add "Authentic TUC" to the list?

By the way, the label "Essential TUC" was the originally proposed tile for our book "TUC Appreciation" and could be considered for some new release.
Message: Posted by: Vthegreatone (Aug 24, 2012 01:05AM)
Ok, I purchased the TUC half with all my savings from the Magic Warehouse...drumroll... I am very very impressed with it. Unfortunately I look at all the coin gimmicks I have, and TUC, for me, and with my style...can replace virtually every coin gaff I have. I commend you Mr. Tango...I tip my hat to you. Now, I have to save up a few months for the copper/silver half sized TUC and I can virtually do almost EVERY routine I have at the bar.

The TUC replaced my FL***ER...my SH***, and once I am able to afford the C/S... my Scotch and Soda set. I highly recommend this coin to all MAGICIANS!

Please, if you plan to buy one coin gimmick...buy this. The card that comes along with it...PERFECTION...perfection.

The handling is different, but the many combinations of effects is well worth the handling. GET IT NOW!
Message: Posted by: funsway (Aug 24, 2012 07:16AM)
Have fun, VT ..

you will soon learn that many traditional effects can be done more efficiently or with a greater "close the door" advantage -- as well as dozens of new effects beyond those supplied with the TUC. It is the tool of creativity and inspiration.

write me at gusarimagic@comcast.net for a new effect
Message: Posted by: Kennard (Aug 24, 2012 07:45AM)
I'm sure you'll enjoy it as much as I do :D the coins across is just so clean!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 24, 2012 04:58PM)
Thanks Vthegreatone, thanks friends, next week I'll start the video.

We are near to the 100.000 lets go
Message: Posted by: magicbern (Aug 25, 2012 02:46AM)
Thanks for taking the time out of your busy schedule to custom-make the Morgsn TUC and the Eisenhower dollar TUC as well! They both arrived safely in Hong kong and work superbly! Looking forward to a more comprehensive DVD of dedicated TUC effects soon! Mr Tango is very professional and his after-sales service is very efficient. I heartily recommend contacting hm directly if you need custom TUcs made using your own coins especially.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 25, 2012 08:09AM)
Thank you friends.

I'm working to book some tour lectures around the world, so if some of you want to have my lecture in your local club please let me know
Message: Posted by: theamazingsauce (Aug 25, 2012 12:53PM)
I have a question. What is the difference between the T.U.C. quarter and the T.U.C. Copper silver? Can I do scotch and soda routines with the T.U.C. quarter or do I need the copper silver. Or can all do the same routines with both coins? Sorry if this question was answered else where I couldn't find it.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Aug 25, 2012 02:15PM)
The quarter is made form an Eagle Quarter though you can get any State you wish.

the C/S is a Kennedy Half with the Leaf like a C/S coin.

Other combinations can be made with any coins of the same size. (you must provide three of the base coin)

So, the difference is not size in a custom version -- just the standard sizes.

SInce you can do a Scotch and Soda with no gaffs at all -- not sure where you are going with this.

Normally, the TUC C/S is used wherever a C/S coin would be used with a masking effect, i.e. the coin can be displayed as normal and tossed around in either configuration.

The Quarter TUC can be used for most standard TUC Effects of the larger versions -- plus some special ones because of its smaller size. One advantage of the Quarter is in apparently borrowing a coin from a spectator.
Message: Posted by: theamazingsauce (Aug 25, 2012 06:49PM)
OK. Thank you for clearing that up. I am an amateur but I'm going to be getting the TUC quarter first it looks great and I can't wait to learn all the different routines I can do with it.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Aug 29, 2012 02:47AM)
A tip for the smaller TUC sizes. Keep a bunch of coins in a coin purse and pour out onto the table. You can tell the TUC by the way it interacts with the clasp. Then, pick up some random coins for your effect -- adding to the sense of naturalness and spontaneity.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Aug 29, 2012 08:14AM)
I like it funsway...always thinking outside the box!
Message: Posted by: bowers (Sep 1, 2012 05:11PM)
Ha mr tango
will the new dvd be out by october?
todd
Message: Posted by: tomsk192 (Sep 1, 2012 08:30PM)
[quote]
On 2012-08-29 09:14, Trooper11040 wrote:
I like it funsway...always thinking outside the box!
[/quote]

Or outside the purse, in this case. :)
Message: Posted by: Dorianmagic (Sep 2, 2012 09:46AM)
[quote]
On 2012-08-29 03:47, funsway wrote:
A tip for the smaller TUC sizes. Keep a bunch of coins in a coin purse and pour out onto the table. You can tell the TUC by the way it interacts with the clasp. Then, pick up some random coins for your effect -- adding to the sense of naturalness and spontaneity.
[/quote] Thanks funsway, for an excellent idea.
Congratulations Mr. Tango for your well deserved FISM award. I received your TUC half, and expanded sam last week and am happy to say the TUC is everything I've heard and read about it. My coin work went up 100% in a matter of hours.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Sep 2, 2012 07:53PM)
Great news Dorian.

Yes, the DVD TUC miracles will be ready for October and a new TUC too, because we´ll introduce together a TUC with a quarter and penny coin. The new TUC will include the new DVD and you can take only the DVD for just $ 24.

We passed 99.000 views, we are near 100.000 we have to ask to Steve to make a sub forum only for TUC :)
Message: Posted by: bowers (Sep 2, 2012 09:02PM)
Great looking forward to getting it mr tango.
todd
Message: Posted by: Dorianmagic (Sep 6, 2012 11:38AM)
[quote]
On 2012-09-02 20:53, Mr. Tango wrote:
Great news Dorian.

Yes, the DVD TUC miracles will be ready for October and a new TUC too, because we´ll introduce together a TUC with a quarter and penny coin. The new TUC will include the new DVD and you can take only the DVD for just $ 24.

We passed 99.000 views, we are near 100.000 we have to ask to Steve to make a sub forum only for TUC :)
[/quote]
Thanks Mr. T. I have the TUC DVD that came with the Kennedy half and the Tango PEDIA which I received with the s******y s**. Please advise (either by PM or email) if the new DVD is different from these,
Thank you again
Message: Posted by: Zombie Magic (Sep 6, 2012 10:55PM)
Will the new DVD have the routines you showed with Tom Trono on the Murphy's Behind The Curtain?
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Sep 7, 2012 02:03AM)
Dorian - I'm pretty sure that it will be given that:

- The 'New TUC DVD' is being remade to include better instruction and more ideas (as stated previously upon this thread)

- And also because the TUC isn't covered on The Tangopedia.
Message: Posted by: Dorianmagic (Sep 8, 2012 08:07AM)
[quote]
On 2012-09-07 03:03, Merc Man wrote:
Dorian - I'm pretty sure that it will be given that:

- The 'New TUC DVD' is being remade to include better instruction and more ideas (as stated previously upon this thread)

- And also because the TUC isn't covered on The Tangopedia.
[/quote]
Thanks, I wondered about that. Look forward to getting the update
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Sep 8, 2012 04:55PM)
Yes, the coin across that I performed with Tim Trono will be one of the new routines at the DVD
Message: Posted by: sdmagic (Sep 8, 2012 05:33PM)
Wow! Check out the number of views on this post! Go Mr. Tango, Go!!

Sdmagic
Message: Posted by: Kennard (Sep 8, 2012 06:54PM)
We passed 100,000 :)
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Sep 8, 2012 09:04PM)
Awesome!!!!!!
Message: Posted by: bowers (Sep 8, 2012 09:22PM)
Look at those views.
its time for the dance.
todd
Message: Posted by: Kennard (Sep 9, 2012 08:16AM)
No it's time for the new DVD :)
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Sep 9, 2012 09:04AM)
[quote]
On 2012-09-09 09:16, Kennard wrote:
No it's time for the new DVD :)
[/quote]
Haha agree big time with that!!
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Sep 9, 2012 12:38PM)
[quote]
On 2012-09-08 22:22, bowers wrote:.
its time for the dance.
todd
[/quote]

Anyone for a tango? ;)
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Sep 9, 2012 12:38PM)
[quote]
On 2012-09-08 22:22, bowers wrote:.
its time for the dance.
todd
[/quote]

Anyone for a tango? ;)
Message: Posted by: Mb217 (Sep 9, 2012 06:09PM)
Man, [b]100,000[/b] views (and over 800 replies ain't too shabby either)...That's something to stop and appreciate it. Nice cherry on top as to a great new part of coin magic.

Good job to Mr. Tango (who invented the coin), my friends, Sammy J (that started this string) and Funsway (that did the big book on the TUC). The interest generated here is a result of all 3 guys starting something special and creating lasting interest in it. Kudos to you all. :)

Man, [b]100,000+[/b] views, and still growing. :) Again, Congratulations! And I still think that [b]solid gold TUC coin[/b] I mentioned sometime back here, is a great idea and much deserved, even more so now. I'm just sayin' but what do you guys think here? :)

-Mb
Message: Posted by: Kennard (Sep 10, 2012 04:49PM)
Mb, I Totally agree, credit should be given and much thanks to those who contributed to the growing interest in the TUC. Now to see what else Mr.Tango can come up with. :)
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Sep 11, 2012 08:43PM)
Oh my god, this is incredible. 100.000 views, it was time I damaged my index finger to click the same thread all the time.
Thank you very much firends, thank you Sammy J for creat the thread, thank you Fusnway for such a huge work, thank you FISM for the Invention Award prize. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm working in the new DVD the final name will be TUC' Secrets.
I insist we should organize a meting just for TUC users. Can we make that ? maybe in some congress.
Message: Posted by: Kennard (Sep 12, 2012 07:18AM)
Hi just wanted to ask if anyone uses a shimmed slippery sam with the TUC? Any insights into that combination?
Message: Posted by: nicolasmtg (Sep 12, 2012 10:03AM)
Hello mi name is nicO.

I'm from argentina and y bought the tuc some years ago when it first come into market .

well I'm a coin man that LOVE technique. till then I neva use a gaff, but one day I decided to buy a tuc and I studied it a lot and developed SOME routines that I will like to share... k then this is mi FB add me :) .
Nicolas pierri ..(the picture is mi face on the beach ..like thinking about my next routine :P)

see ya coin loverS!
Message: Posted by: funsway (Sep 12, 2012 10:38AM)
[quote]
On 2012-09-12 08:18, Kennard wrote:
Hi just wanted to ask if anyone uses a shimmed slippery sam with the TUC? Any insights into that combination?
[/quote]

Tango is producing (or soon will) a Shimmed SlipperSam (ShimSlip) -- I have several effects already designed but need the SS to test and refine. Then a new book will be offered with original effects included those garnished fro other contributors.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Sep 12, 2012 07:47PM)
All our Slippery Expanded shell, has thin steel inside and a teflon surface, so you can use the slippery shell with any TUC
Message: Posted by: Zombie Magic (Sep 12, 2012 10:42PM)
[quote]
On 2012-09-08 17:55, Mr. Tango wrote:
Yes, the coin across that I performed with Tim Trono will be one of the new routines at the DVD
[/quote]

THANK YOU! I love this coin and that routine was KILLER!!!!!!
Message: Posted by: funsway (Sep 16, 2012 11:17AM)
Check out my special offer for TUC users titled "More TUC"
Message: Posted by: Agaton (Sep 17, 2012 11:49PM)
Maybe an ignorant question but can you start with one coin, appear a total of three, then end with one using the TUC? Hoping that the TUC can perform a appearance and disappearance of three coins (at least).
Message: Posted by: funsway (Sep 18, 2012 03:38AM)
Yes by adding an Exp Sh**l or the new ShimSlip

There is such an effect in TUC Appreciation
Message: Posted by: Agaton (Sep 18, 2012 07:20AM)
[quote]
On 2012-09-18 04:38, funsway wrote:
Yes by adding an Exp Sh**l or the new ShimSlip

There is such an effect in TUC Appreciation
[/quote]

Thanks for the reply. Just ordered one!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Sep 24, 2012 06:28PM)
Today I ended the new DVD TUC Secrets, it included about 25 routines:
Two 3 fly coin routines,
Coin across
Coins to glace
Coin penetrations
matrix
Production
Signed coin to pepper
Signed coin to can
Coins thru table
Okito box routines
Scotch and Soda routines
Copper and Silver routines
And some routines, I tried to include the best routines that I performed the last 4 years and I had a special guess, my friend Ulises Palomeque that performed a great routine with TUC copper and silver that change to Chinese coins.
The DVD will be edited in 10 days and it will be included with the TUC free cost in the future and for $ 24 dollars if somebody wants only to buy the DVD.
Message: Posted by: Agaton (Sep 25, 2012 11:31AM)
Got it a few days ago. Such an ease to use. I'm loving it!
Message: Posted by: theamazingsauce (Sep 26, 2012 06:24PM)
Just got my T.U.C and I was wondering if anyone else had this problem; when the insert is nested is does not fully fit. If you show it from the side you can see that something is sticking out. Also when I slide the top it scratches the face of the insert. I'm really excited about using this coin but I don't know if I can in public because it is not nesting correctly.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Sep 27, 2012 01:34AM)
Many have a problem of the opposite sort - need a spacer above the mag to make separation easier -- so your Sh**l may have been bent. The Face on the coin should not be flat. You can try to push out the mag side a bit by placing it on a stck of quarters cover by a silk -- but may wish to return it for a replacement. Contact Mr. Tango.

However, any visibility of an edge is not a problem in performing unless you draw attention to it. What size do you have? The edge of a Half is layered already.
Message: Posted by: theamazingsauce (Sep 27, 2012 07:57AM)
Thanks funsway, I did contact Mr Tango and he is helping me out. He responded very quickly. I think it may have gotten bent in shipping. I tried pushing the mag out as you instructed and this has helped, I can get half of it all the way in now. Hopefully I can get it all the way. Thanks for the advice!
Message: Posted by: magicbyswh (Sep 28, 2012 01:09PM)
Do all the tuc coins now have round magnets?
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Sep 28, 2012 01:21PM)
No - Tango has been making them with round magnets for a while now but several shops still have the older ones with square magnets... unfortunately. And there is no way to tell which you will get when you order. I've asked a few different shops if they would check but none wanted to do that. :(

Jim
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Sep 28, 2012 01:21PM)
[quote]
On 2012-09-28 14:09, magicbyswh wrote:
Do all the tuc coins now have round magnets?
[/quote]

The new ones have the round magnet...older ones had a square
Message: Posted by: bowers (Sep 28, 2012 06:41PM)
I know for a fact all penquins tucs are now with the round magnets.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Sep 28, 2012 07:23PM)
I wonder if Mr Tango would replace a square magnet with a round one
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Sep 28, 2012 09:57PM)
[quote]
On 2012-09-28 20:23, Trooper11040 wrote:
I wonder if Mr Tango would replace a square magnet with a round one
[/quote]

He hasn’t in the past AFAIK. Can't hurt to ask I guess. Of course you can do it yourself too. ;)

Jim
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Sep 29, 2012 12:25AM)
I have a round magnet but was wondering for other people
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Oct 1, 2012 05:05AM)
I've got a couple of older TUC's with the square magnet.

However, with a little additional teflon tape stuck inside the shell, they work just as easily as the circular magnet versions.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Oct 1, 2012 11:22AM)
Hello Friends,
I finished the shooting process of the DVD and now it`s in edition I think in 20 days more it will be in the market, I hope that !!!
Message: Posted by: nicolasmtg (Oct 1, 2012 03:33PM)
As an argentinian coin lover magician I am playing with tucs since their release, and I can say that older tucs work better for me. (square magnet)

I prefer the older tuc... CONS:it require a lil bit more practice to separate smootly

PROS:the magnet is stronger
the inner coin (leaf) is a lil bit widther
the coin feel more SOLID when its nested

this for half dollar size... dollar size is a diferent story.
Message: Posted by: madcats9 (Oct 1, 2012 05:07PM)
[quote]
On 2012-09-24 19:28, Mr. Tango wrote:
The DVD will be edited in 10 days and it will be included with the TUC free cost in the future and for $ 24 dollars if somebody wants only to buy the DVD.
[/quote]

Is it perhaps available as a download for people who already got TUC? Will the additional DVD only available at the Tango store or also at stores of usual dealers?
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Oct 1, 2012 10:10PM)
[quote]
On 2012-09-28 20:23, Trooper11040 wrote:
I wonder if Mr Tango would replace a square magnet with a round one
[/quote]

To his credit, Mr Insua (Mr. Tango) sold me a DIY fix it option for my old TUC's.


[quote]
On 2012-10-01 12:22, Mr. Tango wrote:
Hello Friends,
I finished the shooting process of the DVD and now it`s in edition I think in 20 days more it will be in the market, I hope that !!!
[/quote]

Can't wait!
Message: Posted by: AdamChance (Oct 2, 2012 12:48AM)
Does anyone do a good 3 fly routine with the TUC? a different one than on the TUC dvd? I think many 3 fly routines that can be done with a shell, can also be done with a TUC. I've got a lot of coin dvds with 3 fly routines... just wondering which one is the best to start learning from?
Message: Posted by: funsway (Oct 2, 2012 06:58AM)
There are several in the TUC Appreciation book -- and I have one not published that is unique

your hand never touch at all! For fun I even perform it with my hands Shackled to the ends of a stick so that they cannot touch each other -- only impresses magicians.

It cannot be done with a Shell -- only the TUC allows for two of the Sleights involved.

I then often follow up with "Invisible Shelf" from the Book that can be done with a Shell or the TUC
Message: Posted by: Tony Thomas (Oct 7, 2012 07:34PM)
Can you purchase the TUC in a 64 Kennedy?
Message: Posted by: bowers (Oct 7, 2012 08:05PM)
No but you can have mr tango make you one tony.
Message: Posted by: Tony Thomas (Oct 7, 2012 08:48PM)
Gotcha. Thank you Bowers.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Oct 8, 2012 02:51AM)
[quote]
On 2012-10-07 21:05, bowers wrote:
No but you can have mr tango make you one tony.
[/quote]

You will need to supply three matching coins, though
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Oct 8, 2012 11:42AM)
There are 2 different 3 fly coin routines at "TUC Secrets The DVD".
I won't have a download version but I'm thinking how to make a special offer for the The Magic Caffe Members. I really appreciate the huge help to everybody here and I want to offer the DVD less expensive for you, but the problem is that the shipping from Argentina to US or any other country it would be more expensive as the price. So, I really isn't worth that I sell the DVD direct from here less expensive because all of you would finish paying more as thru your usual dealer.

The DVD is now in edition and I think it will be available for November.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Oct 21, 2012 02:38AM)
It came back! More than a year ago a couple of coins were stolen off of my piano -- one of them my Ike TUC. Yesterday I found it in an envelope stuck in my door. I can only guess the thief accidentally got it open and realize they had something other than just a coin. Most casual visitors here like nurses for Dad do not know I am a magician.
Message: Posted by: Luqash (Oct 21, 2012 01:39PM)
Now that's an amazing disappearance and reappearance trick ;-) So, now you have an extra set of coin gaffs. Just as an aside, this situation is so unprobable that it could only happen in life.

£.Sz.
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Oct 22, 2012 04:58AM)
Brilliant news Funsway.

A real example of 'TUC Appreciation' if ever I've heard it! ;)
Message: Posted by: bowers (Oct 30, 2012 06:56PM)
Mr tango
how long till the dvd goes public?
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Nov 6, 2012 12:24PM)
The DVD is in the last part of the edition work, next week we'll make the translation and I think it will be in the market for the end of this month.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Nov 6, 2012 12:29PM)
Yahoo.....
Message: Posted by: webtech (Nov 7, 2012 06:15PM)
Is there anywhere that you can buy a Morgan TUC?
Message: Posted by: maxnew40 (Nov 8, 2012 09:06AM)
I am very interested in getting a copy of this DVD! Ihave had my english penny TUC for a while and I would really like to see your routines.

-Max
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Nov 8, 2012 09:32AM)
[quote]
On 2012-11-07 19:15, webtech wrote:
Is there anywhere that you can buy a Morgan TUC?
[/quote]

It's one of my favorite coin gaffs. Contact Mr. Tango directly.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Nov 8, 2012 04:23PM)
[quote]
On 2012-11-07 19:15, webtech wrote:
Is there anywhere that you can buy a Morgan TUC?
[/quote]


you missed a good chance here a week or so back.
there were two for sale here.first time I have seen one
here for sale.and two at one time.whats them odds.
todd
Message: Posted by: Tony Thomas (Nov 9, 2012 01:16PM)
Here it is on Tango's web site...
http://www.tangomagic.com/product.php?productid=17461&cat=368&page=1
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Nov 19, 2012 10:43AM)
If some of you want a Morgan TUC contact direct to me
Message: Posted by: bowers (Nov 19, 2012 06:37PM)
There worth every penny.mr tango
made me a very beautiful one.and it
works better than any tuc I have too.
Message: Posted by: rogerpierre (Nov 20, 2012 07:32PM)
I have a couple of TUC's in different coins, and am very pleased with them, the idea of the TUC is great, one of them handles a little better than the other, but they are great!
Message: Posted by: Luqash (Nov 26, 2012 02:17AM)
I've received my half dollar TUC. What a great piece of working! The core has a little stain on it that I don't know how to remove but otherwise it is great.

Btw, Mr Tango, Have you ever considered making a TUC that would consist of The original Tuc and E****** S**** that would utilize the same bidning mechanism the orginial TUC? So we could produce 3 coins one handedly, showing the back of the initial coin and they would all hold nicely (the side of the outer S**** would have to be slightly longer to neatly cover the side of the TUC)

Just a though I had when I was playing around with my gaffs. ;]

L.Sz.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Dec 8, 2012 05:27PM)
Mr tango
will the dvd be out before christmas?
todd
Message: Posted by: Tony Thomas (Dec 9, 2012 08:31PM)
Mr Tango made me a custom '64 Kennedy TUC. It is awesome. Thanks Mr. Tango...
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Dec 10, 2012 11:32AM)
Thanks friends, we are now making the translation of the DVD. I HOPE before Christmas. What a long work is to make a good DVD
Message: Posted by: bowers (Dec 10, 2012 05:51PM)
Ha that would be a great present for christmas.
I feel so guilty sometimes using a tuc.it makes me
look like a pro which I am not for sure.but I like the feeling
that I get from it.
todd
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Dec 27, 2012 03:21PM)
Watching the final edition of TUC Secrets "The DVD", next week we'll make the copies and about January 10 it will be at Murphys in US.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Dec 27, 2012 03:36PM)
Ha mr tango
what will it sell for in the us?
Message: Posted by: AdamChance (Dec 27, 2012 03:53PM)
[quote]
On 2012-12-27 16:21, Mr. Tango wrote:
Watching the final edition of TUC Secrets "The DVD", next week we'll make the copies and about January 10 it will be at Murphys in US.
[/quote]

great! looking forward to it.

is there going to be a trailer or anything like that on youtube?
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Dec 28, 2012 10:52AM)
This is the trailer in youtube,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uxOYPBliE0
Message: Posted by: AdamChance (Dec 28, 2012 11:04AM)
^^^ looks awesome!
Message: Posted by: bowers (Dec 28, 2012 11:24AM)
Makes the hair on my arms stand up watching this.
I can't wait to get this one.thanks mr tango
todd
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Dec 28, 2012 12:19PM)
Looks very good to me!!

Thanks Mr. Tango. :bg:

Jim
Message: Posted by: ljsviol (Dec 28, 2012 01:00PM)
Mr. Tango,
Nice preview of the DVD; thanks for posting this!

There's one error you might want to adjust - at 1:52, where you list some effects, you have:
"Coins to expectator hand"

You probably want to have "spectator" there instead. -)

Best regards, and I'm looking forward to the DVD.

Larry S.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Dec 28, 2012 01:08PM)
That DVD looks GREAT!! Look forward to buying it!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Dec 28, 2012 03:12PM)
Thanks friends
Message: Posted by: Lawrence O (Dec 28, 2012 09:17PM)
Looking forward to it, Marcello. Thanks again for your major contribution to our community
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jan 4, 2013 09:02PM)
Just to let you tuc lovers know
tha hocus pocus has the new tuc secrets
up for pre order.24 dollars
todd
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jan 4, 2013 09:38PM)
I forgot to mention free shipping also.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Jan 5, 2013 12:43AM)
Thanks Todd ... Again. Now if Dave's DVDs ever come out, I'll be in coin magic heaven!
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Jan 5, 2013 05:50AM)
Awesome Todd. Thanks for posting!!
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Jan 5, 2013 07:42AM)
Preorder done! Can't wait to get it!!
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jan 5, 2013 08:23PM)
Mine too dan.
just waiting now.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Jan 5, 2013 09:30PM)
Does it say when it will be here?
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jan 5, 2013 09:48PM)
No I didn't see a release date.
should be soon though.
Message: Posted by: scott0819 (Jan 6, 2013 01:45AM)
A question for all the TUC owners, do you find any discrepancy in coin thickness less noticible with a thinner coin gaff (such as an English penny or quarter gaff)? Which currencies do you think are more deceptive, if any?
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jan 6, 2013 04:52AM)
Reasonable question. My general answer would be that the spectator's attention should be on you rather that the coin -- that the object you hold is not "deceptive" or "magic" in its own right. The object is just a device for making magic visible. A gaffed object like the TUC allows you do execute sleights without the hundred hours of practice required with no gaff. You create and direct the environment in which magic can happen -- and a spectator should only notice what you give them permission to notice.

Right ... that is an ideal. You have a practical problem and concern.

Many of the effects in "TUC Appreciation" could have a problem with coin thickness creating suspicion. I did not include several effects because of this potential problem, e.g. ones in which the spectator handles the "leaf."

In all of the responses and emails I have received about the 60+ effects in the book no one has ever shared an "oops moment" in which a spectator questioned the thickness or "unnaturalness" of the TUC. This doesn't mean it neve rhappened -- only that it didn't matter to the impact of the effect.

If you think it is a problem that anxiety will be communicated to the audience. So, perhaps you should only do TUC effects in which the Leaf is never seen close up -- until you gain confidence.

Personally, the only problem I have ever had with the thickness is the different sound it makes.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Jan 6, 2013 12:35PM)
I only use the TUC in effects where I hold the coins up vertically. I never use it in situations where it would be lying flat on a close-up mat or in someone's hand. Looks fine vertically!

Thank you.

Jim
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jan 6, 2013 01:39PM)
I perform the coins across with it.
and the inner coin rest in my hand along side
the regular ones and ive never been called on it.
and I have performed this hundreds of times for spectators.
Message: Posted by: scott0819 (Jan 7, 2013 08:51AM)
I have no doubt that the spectator's attention could be directed in a way to discourage suspicion of the gaff. That said, I was curious if owners of multiple TUC coins found certain currencies more deceptive than others? I've never seen a TUC but I imagine the thickness would be more noticible on a thicker coin.

Sounds like the short answer so far is "no" or "it doesn't matter".
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jan 7, 2013 12:33PM)
I use Morgan Dollar for coin across and never I receive any bad opinion about it, it depends how you use the coin. Anyway I think the half dollar size is the better if you are worry for that.
About DVD I will send the first pack this friday to US so next week the DVD will be there
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jan 7, 2013 04:37PM)
Like mr tango said probaley the half dollar.
when I do the coins across routien.i think the
spectators eyes are on the count of the coins
more than the look of them.i have done this hundreds
of times.and not yet have I been called on the look
of the inner coin.
todd
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jan 26, 2013 10:23PM)
The dvd is in the copy process next week I'm going to send it to Murphy
Message: Posted by: Zack_Johnston (Jan 27, 2013 10:05AM)
Mr. Tango,

What will the new quarter-penny TUC coin do? Will it instantly produce a penny out of a quarter and look like scotch and soda? What will the effect be? Thank you.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Jan 27, 2013 12:08PM)
[quote]
On 2013-01-26 23:23, Mr. Tango wrote:
The dvd is in the copy process next week I'm going to send it to Murphy
[/quote]

I am anxiously waiting!! I placed my pre-order weeks ago!
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jan 27, 2013 01:05PM)
Me too dan.
Message: Posted by: mixman (Feb 9, 2013 11:54AM)
Any updates on the new DVD?
Message: Posted by: bowers (Feb 9, 2013 01:01PM)
I haven't heard anything I thought it
would be shipped by now.
todd
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Feb 9, 2013 02:44PM)
No but I'm ready to cancel my order...it's getting a bit ridiculous
Message: Posted by: funsway (Feb 10, 2013 05:21AM)
Be patient, folks. The flow of time works differently in Argentina.

Originally the TUC Book was to be published there at Mr. Tango's request. It then became apparent that he had no control over the printers,
and production estimates changed daily.

I finally "self-published" the book "TUC Appreciation" because it could have taken years otherwise.

Mr. Tango is very predictable about anything that occurs within his shop -- but ...
Message: Posted by: mixman (Feb 10, 2013 12:38PM)
I was just on his website and it states that the shop will be closed for vacation from the 11th to the 25th of February. So I would assume that any release will be after that.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Feb 11, 2013 02:09PM)
Got my shipping confirmation today!! TUC secrets here we come!!
Message: Posted by: bowers (Feb 11, 2013 04:07PM)
Mine to hotdog....
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Feb 12, 2013 12:17PM)
Yes the DVD is in US, but the first 100 was sold in one day, so I will send more this week.
I'm lecturing around Scandinavia now,

Bye
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Feb 13, 2013 08:27PM)
Well the good news is...today I received my TUC Secrets DVD from Hocus Pocus Magic...the bad news, the DVD did not have any data written to it :( It was a completely blank DVD. I made contact with Hocus Pocus magic who sent me out a new DVD today...hopefully that one will contain the actual DVD!! lol
Message: Posted by: bowers (Feb 13, 2013 09:29PM)
Got mine also today a very well put togeather dvd.
mr tangos explanations are well explained.also the
routiens are nicely put togeather.
todd
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Feb 13, 2013 09:42PM)
Hocus Pocus sent me my email confirmation for a new DVD...should be here Saturday...I will review it when I get it!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Feb 15, 2013 03:06AM)
Trooper please check if the problem is the format of your DVD device. The DVDs are in PAY format, maybe your device only accept NTSC. Try to see the DVD in a computer.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Feb 15, 2013 09:13AM)
I did Mr Tango...the DVD had no files on it...my only DVD player is my computer...no worries though as a new DVD is arriving today from hocus pocus magic!!
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Feb 15, 2013 08:10PM)
Great News...the one I received today works! I am looking forward to watching this DVD tonight!!
Message: Posted by: NYVetteGuy (Feb 23, 2013 07:10PM)
Just ordered TUC Secrets...should get it by Tues...can't wait to use with my Soft Morgan TUC...
Message: Posted by: bowers (Feb 23, 2013 07:55PM)
A nice accomplement to the TUC coin.
This video gives you a lot of routiens to work with.
Todd
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Feb 23, 2013 09:23PM)
I cant wait till monday to hit the coin shop, and pick up my 3 soft morgans to send to Tango for my Morgan TUC!!!
Message: Posted by: NYVetteGuy (Feb 24, 2013 01:01PM)
Trooper11040: Tango made mine a couple of years ago..from 3 coins I sent him...fantastic work and customer service.....
Message: Posted by: bowers (Feb 24, 2013 01:39PM)
I only sent 3 also.
Todd
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Feb 24, 2013 02:01PM)
I don't think with silver prices the way they are, I can even really afford 4...lol
Message: Posted by: bowers (Feb 24, 2013 02:09PM)
I think he just wants 4 incase something
would go wrong.Its a long way to send a coin.
Todd
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Feb 24, 2013 02:51PM)
Ah..ill take my chances...and if something goes wrong, ill see if he can find a match for me locally there, and ill pay him for it lol
Message: Posted by: bowers (Feb 24, 2013 04:43PM)
Exactly what I did.
Message: Posted by: NYVetteGuy (Feb 26, 2013 11:04PM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-24 15:09, bowers wrote:
I think he just wants 4 incase something
would go wrong.Its a long way to send a coin.
Todd
[/quote]

Does he want 4 coins now for custom TUC's?
Message: Posted by: Jamie Ferguson (Feb 27, 2013 10:36AM)
My greedy, oversized wife just spent my brand new T.U.C.! All I'm left with is the package and the DVD.

The old crone just took the coin off the table in my study (magic room) and went to the corner shop to buy a bag of snacks without me knowing. I am so angry with the Monster Munch gobbling troll.

Well done to Mr Tango for making such a convincing looking gaff. Not well done to my XXXL other half who can't help but eat me out of house and home. :(
Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Feb 27, 2013 02:54PM)
Jaime, post a pic of you and the Mrs!
Message: Posted by: bowers (Feb 27, 2013 07:04PM)
What coinage was the tuc?
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Feb 27, 2013 11:58PM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-27 20:04, bowers wrote:
What coinage was the tuc?
[/quote]

I would guess a British coin from his profile.
Probably the £2. You couldn't buy much of a bag of snacks for anything less.

Jamie's post was very funny in an Al Bundy sort of way. My guess is the little wifey doesn't often venture on to the Café. Still, Jamie, you should know that these open forums are fully searchable on Google. :yikes:
Message: Posted by: Jamie Ferguson (Feb 28, 2013 09:13AM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-28 00:58, BanzaiMagic wrote:
[quote]
On 2013-02-27 20:04, bowers wrote:
What coinage was the tuc?
[/quote]

I would guess a British coin from his profile.
Probably the £2. You couldn't buy much of a bag of snacks for anything less.

Jamie's post was very funny in an Al Bundy sort of way. My guess is the little wifey doesn't often venture on to the Café. Still, Jamie, you should know that these open forums are fully searchable on Google. :yikes:
[/quote]
I've said nothing here that I didn't say to her face.

Yes, it was the £2 version (along with about £4 of change).

Chessman, do you really want to throw up?!
Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Feb 28, 2013 10:45AM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-28 10:13, Jamie Ferguson wrote:
Chessman, do you really want to throw up?!
[/quote]

Sure. I could do with a purge, anyway. :)
Message: Posted by: Al Straker (Mar 4, 2013 06:36AM)
Jamie, that is too funny.

I know it hurts bro, my kid once put my new mag fli***r in a vending machine. Took a LONG time to se the funny side but your post cracked me up.

Thanks for a great laugh,
Al
Message: Posted by: Poof-Daddy (Mar 4, 2013 09:21AM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-27 11:36, Jamie Ferguson wrote:
My greedy, oversized wife just spent my brand new T.U.C.! All I'm left with is the package and the DVD.

The old crone just took the coin off the table in my study (magic room) and went to the corner shop to buy a bag of snacks without me knowing. I am so angry with the Monster Munch gobbling troll.

Well done to Mr Tango for making such a convincing looking gaff. Not well done to my XXXL other half who can't help but eat me out of house and home. :(
[/quote]


http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=494602&forum=202&42 probably too late for you now but this was how I recovered mine
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 7, 2013 03:53PM)
When somebody ask me a Morgan TUC I ask 4 coins just in case to have problems in the process but if I don't use the extra coin I send back this coin.
Message: Posted by: Tfet (Mar 19, 2013 02:45AM)
Hi Mr. Tango.

I've been looking for an Eisenhower dollar TUC. I can't find one. Everyone is out of stock. Did you stop making them?

I can't find a slippry sam Ike either. LOL

Thank you!
Message: Posted by: mixman (Mar 20, 2013 12:13PM)
Ditto what Tfet said. I am also looking for an Eisenhower TUC and slippery sam. Any idea when they may be back in stock anywhere?
Message: Posted by: Poof-Daddy (Mar 20, 2013 02:52PM)
I now have a quarter TUC and a Walking Liberty Half TUC (that came with the TUC DVD, the quarter one came with Tangopedia )
The quarter came with a shimmed card and an extra ( pretty big circle) of shim stock but my Walker half only came with a shim card.

Is there any way to get a few sheets of shim stock to make extra cards. ( the ones that came with the coins are a little "flimsy") I would be happy to purchase them if you have them available for sale.
Message: Posted by: videoman (Mar 20, 2013 02:58PM)
I believ the circle of shim stock is to use with the soda can effect he does on the video. Although you can cut it and use it any way that suits your needs of course.
But that is why it is supplied and in that size and shape.
Message: Posted by: Tfet (Mar 20, 2013 09:57PM)
[quote]
On 2013-03-20 13:13, mixman wrote:
Ditto what Tfet said. I am also looking for an Eisenhower TUC and slippery sam. Any idea when they may be back in stock anywhere?
[/quote]

They are now back in stock. At penguin magic anyway. I ordered mine from Hocus Pocus a week or so ago and they told me they didn't know when they were going to be back in. But they did ship me a package so hopefully they got them.

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S11657

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S12474
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Mar 24, 2013 03:16PM)
At long last, I undertook the project of upgrading two of my TUC gaffs from square to round. I posted my experience in Secret Sessions.

If I knew it would be this easy, I wouldn't have waited so long!

Thanks, Trooper11040, for getting me going.

Regards,

Alan
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 24, 2013 06:37PM)
Sorry friends if you don't find TUC in stock in the magic dealers, just we was closed for summer holidays in february and I was lecturing february and a part of March around Scandinavia and UK but now we are working hard to send as soon as possible a good quantity to Murphys in about 15 or 20 days. Anyway if some you need a TUC urgent you can buy it directly from us in our web site or just send an e-mail to info@tangomagic.com
Message: Posted by: mixman (Mar 27, 2013 03:24PM)
Glad to hear it Mr Tango. I absolutely love my Kennedy set. I do a killer 3fly routine with that combination and I want to upgrade to a larger coin so it is more visible.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Apr 1, 2013 10:15AM)
Is there anyway to "tighten" the shell so the edges of the shell are closer to the insert? I know there is a way to loosen it as per the instructions, but never the other way around...
Message: Posted by: Al Desmond (Apr 1, 2013 07:09PM)
Ok...

I've gone through this thread twice... looked through the Secret Sessions thread... and unless I'm missing something, I cannot find any specific information on what size (diameter) and what thickness of round magnet one would use to replace the sq. one in a T.U.C half. I purchased a used one here at the Café, with a sq. magnet (I didn't know there was any debate about the internal workings of the coin before I purchased it) and I have no problem with a DIY project, but I need to know what some of you here have already discovered.

Please PM me if you have those details.
Message: Posted by: mixman (Apr 1, 2013 07:38PM)
Just measured mine. the diameter is about 16mm or 5/8 of an inch. Can't tell the thickness.
Message: Posted by: Al Desmond (Apr 1, 2013 08:07PM)
[quote]
On 2013-04-01 20:38, mixman wrote:
Just measured mine. the diameter is about 16mm or 5/8 of an inch. Can't tell the thickness.
[/quote]

Thickness is the really important dimension. It's evident from messages on this thread that "someone" has done this. I'm hoping that they keep some specs on what they did.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Apr 1, 2013 08:45PM)
[quote]
On 2013-04-01 21:07, Al Desmond wrote:
[quote]
On 2013-04-01 20:38, mixman wrote:
Just measured mine. the diameter is about 16mm or 5/8 of an inch. Can't tell the thickness.
[/quote]

Thickness is the really important dimension. It's evident from messages on this thread that "someone" has done this. I'm hoping that they keep some specs on what they did.
[/quote]
Hi Al,

I'm that "someone". I am waiting for a more precise digital caliper to arrive (the previous one I purchased was accurate only to 1mm and is therefore useless for these purposes). As soon as it comes I will post the results in SS.

Alan
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Apr 1, 2013 09:55PM)
[quote]
On 2013-04-01 11:15, Trooper11040 wrote:
Is there anyway to "tighten" the shell so the edges of the shell are closer to the insert? I know there is a way to loosen it as per the instructions, but never the other way around...
[/quote]

I posted in SS on this. Hope that helps.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Apr 2, 2013 07:52PM)
New calipers came today.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Apr 2, 2013 08:51PM)
We have excellent coin gaffers in America and Canada (including one who used to live in England - Bob Swadling), but Mr Tango invented a revolutionary new concept in the TUC. I choose to support the inventors and innovators no matter their location or the language they speak.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Apr 2, 2013 09:06PM)
[quote]
On 2013-04-02 21:51, BanzaiMagic wrote:
We have excellent coin gaffers in America and Canada (including one who used to live in England - Bob Swadling), but Mr Tango invented a revolutionary new concept in the TUC. I choose to support the inventors and innovators no matter their location or the language they speak.
[/quote]

My sentiments also Alan.
Todd
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (May 14, 2013 06:56PM)
Hello friend, how are you and your TUCs ?
Message: Posted by: bowers (May 14, 2013 07:48PM)
Still loving mine Mr Tango.
Thanks so much for this great product.
Todd
Message: Posted by: shakuni (May 15, 2013 04:41AM)
Hello Mr. Tango!

Already using the TUC daily. I hope to get the morgan version from you as soon as you get the morgan supply. I will send you a PM today. Thanks for the great product.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (May 15, 2013 11:13AM)
[quote]
On 2013-04-02 20:52, BanzaiMagic wrote:
New calipers came today.
[/quote]

I forgot to mention here that I posted dimensions in secret sessions last month after the calipers came (do a search if you are interested).

Alan
Message: Posted by: bowers (May 15, 2013 08:10PM)
Ha Shakuni
The morgen TUC is the best handling one of the TUC coins.
Message: Posted by: pabloinus (May 15, 2013 08:33PM)
I was in Argentina 2 weeks ago and stopped by the Bar Magico, Mr Tango's place. I was not able to attend any of the shows, but I spend one hour with Marcelo when I dropped my TUCs so he can change the magnets to the round ones, my TUCs are 2009 vintage one of the firsts to be produced. For me the round magnets work better, in the hands of Marcelo, even with the square ones he open them easily. Creator's hands!
He also did some magic for me with his new Tango ultimate reel, incredible silent and cool prop. But I finally bought a a C/S/B coin set that uses instead of the chinese coin with a hole a current 10 pesos Mexican coin, very nice set.

It is always a pleasure to see Mr Tango, so if you are in Buenos Aires stop by his place, great people.

Pablo
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jun 2, 2013 02:38AM)
Please remember that the T.U.C. evolved over many years from a passion to "make magic simple" rather than any desire to make something new or unique.

They are not "creator's hand" as much as "father's hands"
Message: Posted by: webtech (Jun 6, 2013 08:37PM)
Will there be any T.U.C. Morgan coins available anytime soon?
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jun 6, 2013 11:08PM)
Mr Tango has some - uses dozens of them personally.

If there is short supply he will make you set from three supplied Morgans (or any coins)

I use fake Morgans in combination with my Morgan TUC just fine.

contact him online
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jun 7, 2013 08:21AM)
My friend Funsway, thank you for your words. I have to send you some slipperys I will do it soon.

If somebody want Morgan TUCs can send me the coins and I will make it
Message: Posted by: Lawrence O (Jun 9, 2013 06:00PM)
Hi Mr Tango

Can you PM me to let me know where I should send you some French 10F Sterling Silver coins to make a TUC
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jun 12, 2013 10:54AM)
Hello friends.

I will be lecturing at Penguin website September 1st. half of my lecture is about T.U.C. After that I will some days in New York, if somebody want to organize a lecture there I would be happy to do it.
Message: Posted by: shakuni (Jul 18, 2013 11:32AM)
Just received the Soft Morgan TUC today. Looks and works amazing. I think that Mr. Tango made the leaf extra soft so it slides very easily (compared to Eisenhower TUC). Also, great customer service from Mr. Tango as always. I will upload pictures for the coin soon!
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Jul 18, 2013 12:18PM)
[quote]
On 2013-07-18 12:32, shakuni wrote:
Just received the Soft Morgan TUC today. Looks and works amazing. I think that Mr. Tango made the leaf extra soft so it slides very easily (compared to Eisenhower TUC). Also, great customer service from Mr. Tango as always. I will upload pictures for the coin soon!
[/quote]

I love my Morgan TUC as well. Although I don't own an Eisenhower TUC, I think the difference may also be the metal composition since silver is a softer metal. Mine is uncirculated but I still find it is much smoother and quieter than my clad Kennedy TUC's.

Alan
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jul 18, 2013 09:37PM)
I have the ike also,but my morgen version
has the smoothest action there is.
Todd
Message: Posted by: louisk (Jul 20, 2013 08:52AM)
What other gaffed coins do you combine the T.U.C. with ?
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jul 20, 2013 09:03AM)
You can add a shell to combine with this.
Message: Posted by: louisk (Jul 20, 2013 09:07PM)
[quote]
On 2013-07-20 10:03, bowers wrote:
You can add a shell to combine with this.
[/quote]

There are many shells on the market.
1. Expanded Shell
2. Shim Shell
3. Slippery Shell
4. Slippery Expanded Shell

Which one would be more suitable for T.u.c. and what are the differences between them ?
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Jul 20, 2013 10:29PM)
It depends on what you are hoping to do.

And are you asking what is the difference between the types of shells?? If you really don’t know that then you might want to reconsider getting a gaff like the TUC just yet.

Jim
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jul 20, 2013 11:01PM)
Exactly my thoughts also.
Todd
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jul 22, 2013 08:06PM)
You can use any shell with a TUC, more if the shell has a steel piece, you will have a incredible gimmick because the TUC has a magnet.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jul 22, 2013 09:35PM)
Very true Mr Tango
Todd
Message: Posted by: jconstantine (Jul 23, 2013 03:23PM)
I use my Eisenhower tuc with an expanded shimmed shell. Makes for a nice three coin nest equivelint to a triple threat.
Message: Posted by: Houdonni (Aug 1, 2013 12:27PM)
If one was to buy say a half-dollar TUC , would you need to have other "normal" half-dollar coins to go with it, and how many?
I live in Canada where our currency attracts magnets and aren't suitable for TUC :( , so if I were to get say a USD Morgan TUC, would I need to find more USD Morgan like coins? .. and how many would I need?
What I mean is, if you have one TUC do you need identical normal coins to go with it?
Message: Posted by: tomsk192 (Aug 1, 2013 12:44PM)
No, you would need to buy at least a dozen TUC's to do any meaningful effects. Morgan's will probably be your best bet.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Aug 1, 2013 03:36PM)
Many effects require 1-3 additional, matching coins. The fake Morgans available for several on the Café work just fine -- maybe $5 each or so. If you can also get a matching Exp [ it is great also, but not necessary.

None of the 60+ effects in "TUC Appreciation" require more than four total coins including the TUC - many with the TUC alone.

The Kenny Half TUC is the most popular and I use an "Ike" more than the Morgan.
Message: Posted by: Houdonni (Aug 1, 2013 10:23PM)
Thanks Funsway. Tomsk, ur an ass. lol. :) I might be Canadian, but I'm one of the smarter ones. I ain't falling for that one. lol.
What a great board this is. Nothing better than to pick the brains of wily veterans. :)
Message: Posted by: tomsk192 (Aug 2, 2013 05:49AM)
Yeah, I didn't think you'd fall for that! :)
Message: Posted by: Houdonni (Aug 2, 2013 07:54AM)
Lol. :) When I saw the price of the Morgans it dawned on me that I was an idiot. lol. :/
Reason I asked too, is that I have a small collection of old Silver US and Cnd coins and was hoping to have Mr. Tango make a TUC of a Cdn. one, ( our current currency attracts magnets so are un-usable as a TUC. ), so now I know, ( thank you Funsway), I would have to have four silver Cdn. coins the SAME, and have one of those gimmicked.
Draws a lot of suspicion here in Canada when you use US coins, people of course wonder why, and figure somethings up.
On the other side of the coin, excuse the pun, I don't have to shell out for steel core coins. :) ... "shell" out lol. get it? :)
Message: Posted by: tomsk192 (Aug 2, 2013 08:31AM)
Yes, our new 10p, 5p, 2p and 1p are now all ferrous, so am well familiar with the problems and advantages.

I reckon really old coins you can get away with, as they have their own back story. But I agree, using current foreign currency can be a bit dodgy...
Message: Posted by: funsway (Aug 2, 2013 04:19PM)
Curious -- would using Euros have the same rejection as US coins?
Message: Posted by: tomsk192 (Aug 2, 2013 04:31PM)
Hi Ken,

I would say yes. However, although I like to use UK currency, I have done loads of stuff with US half dollars with no problems. If there is a gaff involved, they won't know about it anyway...

And there's nothing quite like producing big, old silver coins from thin air. Noone cares what country [i]they're[/i] from!

Tom
Message: Posted by: tomsk192 (Aug 2, 2013 08:20PM)
(It's [b]Treasure[/b], innit?)
Message: Posted by: nicolasmtg (Aug 3, 2013 10:25AM)
I like us currency and I'm from argentina xp
Message: Posted by: Jerry (Aug 3, 2013 09:53PM)
Can you have Tango mod the older version of Canadian coins, before they were manufacture in steel?
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Aug 6, 2013 11:24PM)
[quote]
On 2013-08-03 22:53, Jerry wrote:
Can you have Tango mod the older version of Canadian coins, before they were manufacture in steel?
[/quote]

You should send a PM to Mr. Tango directly, but I would guess that he would. When I was buying my Morgan TUC from him he wanted me to send him three coins to make the gaff. I got lucky that he was making a batch for a North American tour otherwise I would have had to send him the coins. It would have been worth it though, it's still one of my favorite gaffs.

Alan
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 7, 2013 07:48PM)
I can make the TUC with any coin in the world, except the ones that are steel. So if the coin is attracted for a magnet, it doesn't work for a TUC.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 27, 2013 07:54PM)
Hello friends

Next Saturday September 1st I will be giving a lecture thru Penguin magic web site, I will teach many TUC routines
Message: Posted by: Dentian (Aug 28, 2013 05:15AM)
Honestly, I don't really get the hype about the TUC.. When I first got it from my magic store people were talking about how great it was. But when I opened it up and examined it.. I was kind of disappointed, why couldn't I just get a shell for cheaper? the insert for the kennedy halves of the TUC is also a real pain to get out, it isn't sure-fire.
Message: Posted by: tomsk192 (Aug 28, 2013 05:30AM)
Really? I find the Kennedy v easy to use. There is a way of adjusting it so it slides better. Have a trawl through this thread and you'll find the answer, Dentian.

Tom
Message: Posted by: bowers (Aug 28, 2013 06:31PM)
I can see one getting frustrated if they do
not know how to operate this coin properly.
But if you learn how.Its a dream.
Todd
Message: Posted by: funsway (Aug 28, 2013 07:53PM)
And there are ways of opening and using the TUC not described in the DVD. It is worth the effort to learn how to use it properly -- apparently not from the guys at the store. It is also possible you particular TUC is damaged in some way -- it should be "sure fire."
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Aug 29, 2013 07:46AM)
[quote]
On 2013-08-28 20:53, funsway wrote:
And there are ways of opening and using the TUC not described in the DVD. It is worth the effort to learn how to use it properly -- apparently not from the guys at the store. It is also possible you particular TUC is damaged in some way -- it should be "sure fire."
[/quote]

Or it might be one of the old style TUCs.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 29, 2013 11:38AM)
Dentian see my lecture at Penguin magic site this Sunday I will teach everything about TUC
Message: Posted by: Dentian (Aug 29, 2013 11:51AM)
Mr. Tango, I am planning to do so. I still do hope to get using this gimmick sometimes.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 30, 2013 07:55AM)
Dentian, if you love coin magic, you have about 80 different effect to perfom with TUC
Message: Posted by: Dentian (Aug 30, 2013 10:32AM)
Wow, that sounds great. I'll see how the lecture is and I will also ask some questions when possible, I think I could only be there for the first 30 minutes, but be sure to look out for my questions!
Message: Posted by: stevemorton (Sep 1, 2013 12:32PM)
I have to say that the TUC is the best thing I ever bought. I recently augmented one of mine with a s***l. Wow, what a stunt.
Finding UK coins isn't that easy. But if you do, buy them, or chat to Mr Tango.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Sep 2, 2013 12:57AM)
I have just finished my lecture a Penguin it was 4 hours lecture, 2 of this hours was TUC routines, get the download from Penguin Magic
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Sep 3, 2013 05:30AM)
Please friends if some of you watched my live Penguin lecture, I will really appreciate if you can put your review at Penguin magic web site and here.

Bye
Message: Posted by: Tom G (Sep 3, 2013 08:37PM)
I posted a couple of questions in the TUC Repair thread in Secret Sessions if someone can answer them or shoot me a PM.
Message: Posted by: stevemorton (Sep 5, 2013 04:08PM)
Mr Tango, a huge thank you on the s******g pointer.
Waiting for the glue to dry, might need some teflon too!
Steve
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Sep 11, 2013 12:52PM)
New record for this thread 140.000 views WOW
Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Sep 13, 2013 01:51PM)
I hearby declare this thread...

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Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Sep 13, 2013 02:06PM)
Edit -
Message: Posted by: PendletonThe3rd (Sep 14, 2013 05:53PM)
Purchased. Opened. Love.

This is a first for me in terms of a coin of this kind and I am just floored at how great this is. Thank you Mr. Tango...I can see why this thread is what it is...which, by the way, helped get me over the hump in terms of purchasing...I'm just so glad I did.

Everything from the packaging, the coin, the case, DVD and instruction, EVERYTHING is quality. One can tell that a lot of love, passion, and, of course, magic went into this.

Thanks again Mr Tango and everyone on this thread!
Message: Posted by: bowers (Sep 14, 2013 07:25PM)
We feel your love Pendleton.
I love this coin also.I have several
different varitys.
Todd
Message: Posted by: sdmagic (Sep 14, 2013 07:34PM)
IMHO you can't buy a better coin gimmick than the TUC. It allows mere mortals to do coin magic miracles! This is the real deal.

Sdmagic
Message: Posted by: bowers (Sep 14, 2013 07:56PM)
I agree 100% Sdmagic.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Sep 15, 2013 11:35AM)
Wow, I love your comments, thanks all my relatives here, :)
Message: Posted by: sdmagic (Sep 15, 2013 01:06PM)
Any time cousin! (just kiddin')
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Sep 15, 2013 04:19PM)
I am selling a Morgan TUC that needs a little repair in the for sale forum if anyone is interested...
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Sep 23, 2013 03:53PM)
Question: Does anyone know if the TUC copper/silver comes with an ungimmicked matching copper coin?
I believe it comes as a half dollar/ British Penny. For me the 1/2 dollar is easy to get, but the copper, not so much.
KJ
Message: Posted by: bowers (Sep 23, 2013 06:51PM)
Mine did not come with a matching coin.
I had Mr Tango make a opposite copper silver set
also for me.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Oct 23, 2013 03:41PM)
Hello friends

Just to know that I will be lecturing around New Zealand and Australia. I will be october 26, 27 and 28 in Palmerston North, New Zealand.
In Australia, Oct 29 Brisbane, Oct 30 Sydney, Nov 1st Melbourne, Nov 4 Adelaide and Nov 5 Perth.

See you there
Message: Posted by: magicbob116 (Oct 23, 2013 04:23PM)
Enjoying my half dollar TUC and SS ]. So much that I just ordered a silver dollar TUC and SS ].
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Nov 2, 2013 02:40AM)
Hello, unforgettable evening yesterday in Melbourne Australia, my next lecture this Monday in Adelaide.
Message: Posted by: Lawrence O (Nov 11, 2013 02:28PM)
In my coin magic the routines are involving old sterling silver 10 Francs coins which are really beautiful coins (1mm less than a Morgan dollar: 37mm in diametre). I have had a Flipper coin done in France by Xavier Belmont whose work is second to none.

To complete my set of tools, I badly needed a TUC with the same type of coins. I requested Mr Tango to make a TUC with these coins and upon receiving it, I was amazed at the quality of the work. Not only was this "made to order TUC" working perfectly but the quality of the work is of the same high standards as my Schoolcraft, Lassen or Belmont gaffed coins.

This is so vividly true that I'm going to ask Mr Tango to make some copper/silver and Silve/gold TUCs for me by copper plating and (tamed) gold plating one side of inserts of the same coin type. Thus I'll be able to "change the matter" of the coin rather than switching the visible coin for a different nationality/metal-type coin. Experience showed me that starting with a copper coin and then changing its nature to silver and then to (tamed) gold was supplying additional admiration for the routine thanks to the perceived increase of value with the same coin type. In perfception terms with sleight of hand, we can switch coins, but it takes real magic to change the nature of the coin itself.


Thank you Mr Tango for having brought your standards to such a high level and kept it there.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Dec 4, 2013 02:51PM)
Thank you Lawrence
Message: Posted by: deanbarlow (Dec 12, 2013 01:38PM)
Hi guys,
Have any of you combined the TUC with an expanded shell? I have been using the TUC for a while to great success and I have just got an expanded shell to match to see what I can do with both. Any good ideas for me to get started with please?
Thanks.
Message: Posted by: Lawrence O (Dec 12, 2013 03:45PM)
You were not the first one to have this idea (which is not a crime) and in his DVD that comes with the (at least high end) TUC there are several ideas using the concept of the shell covered TUC, including Mr Tango's very practical version of "Blow Up"
But you also may try
A three coin routine based on Eric Mead's routine
A purse frame routine based on Curtis Kam's/Fred Kaps' one
or, better, buy the fantastic book made by Funsway exclusively on the TUC and have the time of your life.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Dec 26, 2013 08:20AM)
Hello TUC's friends I only want to wish you Merry Christmass and a Happy New Year !
Message: Posted by: bowers (Dec 26, 2013 08:51AM)
A Merry Christmas to you also Mr Tango.
Todd
Message: Posted by: Motor City (Dec 26, 2013 01:32PM)
[quote]
On 2013-12-12 16:45, Lawrence O wrote:
You were not the first one to have this idea (which is not a crime) and in his DVD that comes with the (at least high end) TUC there are several ideas using the concept of the shell covered TUC, including Mr Tango's very practical version of "Blow Up"
But you also may try
A three coin routine based on Eric Mead's routine
A purse frame routine based on Curtis Kam's/Fred Kaps' one
or, better, buy the fantastic book made by Funsway exclusively on the TUC and have the time of your life.

[/quote]

Lawrence O,

Which Eric Mead routine are you referring to? What is the source for that routine? Thank you, in advance.
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Dec 26, 2013 11:38PM)
John,

Here's a video of Eric Mead performing his three coin routine. The routine starts at the 5:42 mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg0AoCXxwBs

Jim
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jan 2, 2014 08:27PM)
Motor City you have similar two different 3 fly coin routines at the DVD that is includes in the TUC set
Message: Posted by: lithyem (Jan 3, 2014 06:57PM)
Motor City - The routine Eric is performing is U3F using the U3F set. (Not saying it can't be accomplished with a different gaff set, just noting for accuracy)
Message: Posted by: SMERSH (Jan 6, 2014 08:38AM)
Does Tango make a L***ing Sl**ing S**ll that could also work with the TUC?
Message: Posted by: J-Mac (Jan 6, 2014 04:17PM)
Sliding, yes. Locking, I don’t know. Hopefully someone who knows will pipe up. Have you checked their website?

Jim
Message: Posted by: Motor City (Jan 10, 2014 01:40PM)
J-Mac, thanks for the video link. That routine is great!

Mr.Tango, thank you for your reference. I will look at it.

lithyem, thank you for the clarification. I appreciate it.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jan 20, 2014 04:14PM)
Yes I produce a S------ Ex------ Shell Magnetic, so it keep together TUC if you want.
Message: Posted by: SMERSH (Jan 22, 2014 03:00PM)
Thanks for your reply Mr. Tango.
Is that a special order, or is the S------ Ex------ Shell Magnetic the same one of yours as available from Penguin currently?
Thank you again.
Message: Posted by: FlyingLizard99 (Jan 27, 2014 08:27PM)
If I purchase a T.U.C. that is based on a coin (say a USA 1/2 dollar) that has milled (grooved) edges, will the T.U.C. I get have milled edges on both the S**** and the I***** ?? Thanks in advance for any info. -Paul
Message: Posted by: MagicDebbie (Jan 27, 2014 08:58PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-27 21:27, FlyingLizard99 wrote:
If I purchase a T.U.C. that is based on a coin (say a USA 1/2 dollar) that has milled (grooved) edges, will the T.U.C. I get have milled edges on both the S**** and the I***** ?? Thanks in advance for any info. -Paul
[/quote]

I was able to see a live demo and handle the coin. The I***** is not milled and noticeably thiner than the S****.
Message: Posted by: inigmntoya (Jan 27, 2014 08:59PM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-27 21:27, FlyingLizard99 wrote:
If I purchase a T.U.C. that is based on a coin (say a USA 1/2 dollar) that has milled (grooved) edges, will the T.U.C. I get have milled edges on both the S**** and the I***** ?? Thanks in advance for any info. -Paul
[/quote]

Looking at mine, I would say "sort of", but it really doesn't matter either way.
Message: Posted by: FlyingLizard99 (Jan 27, 2014 11:38PM)
Thanks for the info...so just to clarify...the S**** (of a USA Kennedy $.50) has milled edges...yes??
Message: Posted by: Dentian (Jan 28, 2014 12:52AM)
[quote]
On 2014-01-28 00:38, FlyingLizard99 wrote:
Thanks for the info...so just to clarify...the S**** (of a USA Kennedy $.50) has milled edges...yes??
[/quote]

Yup, it does.
Message: Posted by: FlyingLizard99 (Jan 28, 2014 11:55AM)
Thanks again!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jan 28, 2014 03:05PM)
There is a mistake here I think because the inner part is milled in all the versions.
Message: Posted by: virtualwizard (Feb 4, 2014 04:43PM)
I've been wanting one of these for awhile, I'm going to have to break down and make the purchase, it sounds awesome!
Message: Posted by: bowers (Feb 4, 2014 04:56PM)
It is for sure..
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Feb 4, 2014 06:46PM)
I love my walking liberty TUC! its awesome!!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Feb 14, 2014 03:33AM)
Hello friends, I will be lecturing in Portmouth and London this week before going to Bkackpool Magic Convention, see you there.
Message: Posted by: DaleTrueman (Feb 17, 2014 06:13PM)
Thanks Mr Tango. You won't remember but I said hello when you were in Sydney. I had been looking for good quality gaffed Australian coins and was just about to contact you to see if you would make some.
Then I saw you were going to be in Melbourne. Silly me, I planned to drive 12 hours just to see you that night. Luckily I found out you were going to be in Sydney the night before.

It was a great night and I am so pleased with my purchases. As people say before me, you can barely tell anything has been done to the coins at all.

I'd recommend the TUC and any Tango products to any magician if only to see their quality and genius!!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Feb 19, 2014 05:53AM)
Thank you Tiggod.

I will lecturing today in London at Zodiac Magic Club, see you there ?
Message: Posted by: JCheng (Mar 3, 2014 11:21PM)
I dropped my TUC. I think there might be a little bent in the edge. Now it's a little hard to "unlock" the coin inside. Is there any way to fix it?
Message: Posted by: funsway (Mar 4, 2014 06:56AM)
The old "silk method" might work. Place a thin silk over the Leaf and force the Shell over it. Massage the edges and then pull off of the silk.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 11, 2014 09:27AM)
Jcheng try as Funsway advised
Message: Posted by: JCheng (Mar 12, 2014 04:27PM)
Thank you but It didn't work.
Message: Posted by: inigmntoya (Mar 12, 2014 05:26PM)
[quote]
On Mar 12, 2014, JCheng wrote:
Thank you but It didn't work.
[/quote]

Fold the silk in half so now you have two layers of material, and try again.
The idea is to stretch things out just enough that things no longer stick.

Or do you see a visible ding, dent, or flat area along the rim? That's a bit tougher.
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Mar 13, 2014 07:46PM)
[quote]
On Mar 12, 2014, JCheng wrote:
Thank you but It didn't work.
[/quote]
You could try the Bic pen method (gentle increasing pressure on the inside part of the rim where the "ding" is). Since most TUCs are not real silver - this method will require significant pressure to fix the dent - just be patient and go slow. If you can't tell where the dent is by sight, use your finger to feel where on the rim there is any lack of uniformity, then go back and forth with the end of the Bic pen (not the writing end)with increasing pressure until you no longer feel a bump.

Hope that helps.

Alan
Message: Posted by: inigmntoya (Mar 13, 2014 09:01PM)
Bic pen or bic *lighter* ?
Message: Posted by: BanzaiMagic (Mar 15, 2014 05:51PM)
The writing kind works well for me, but I guess you could use a lighter, if you have one. The reason it works is because the plastic won't scratch the metal but is strong enough to gently bend the rim.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 24, 2014 12:42PM)
Hello Friends
I will do some lectures in US in April, I will inform soon
Message: Posted by: SydBeckman (Mar 24, 2014 02:58PM)
Thanks Tango. Let us know where you will be. Would love to see the lecture.
Message: Posted by: konstant (Mar 28, 2014 04:29AM)
Does anybody know why the 2 euros coin is much more expensive than the half dollar t.u.c.?
Message: Posted by: inigmntoya (Mar 28, 2014 10:18PM)
[quote]
On Mar 28, 2014, konstant wrote:
Does anybody know why the 2 euros coin is much more expensive than the half dollar t.u.c.?
[/quote]

A half dollar is $0.50. 2 euros = $2.75 :-)


Kidding aside, it probably has to do with the fact that the 2 euro coin is in two parts? the center piece may be finicky to work with.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Mar 31, 2014 12:59PM)
Hello everybody, I will be lecturing in Tannen Magic New York City, April 29, 19 hs. See you there !
Message: Posted by: barts185 (Apr 12, 2014 04:54PM)
[quote]
On Mar 31, 2014, Mr. Tango wrote:
Hello everybody, I will be lecturing in Tannen Magic New York City, April 29, 19 hs. See you there !
[/quote]

A 19 hour lecture? That's a LONG lecture - might have to head over to see that one.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Apr 12, 2014 07:03PM)
I couldn't set though 19 hours of anything.
I think he meant something else.
Todd
Message: Posted by: inigmntoya (Apr 12, 2014 08:40PM)
Most likely
1900hrs = 19:00 = 7PM
Message: Posted by: barts185 (Apr 15, 2014 11:44PM)
Sorry, thought that the 19 hours was an obvious joke. In case anyone is interested, it's confirmed that it is 7pm (1900 hours) at Tannen's Shop in New York on Tuesday, April 29th.

http://www.tannens.com/shop//cart.php?m=product_detail&p=10352
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Apr 20, 2014 08:16AM)
Ha ha ha, sorry I wanted to say that lecture will start 7 PM.
The lecture is not only coins, actually TUC is just one third of the lecture, besides I will teach my Unmorized deck, my ACAAN and my Shared Dreams. See you there !
Message: Posted by: funsway (Apr 20, 2014 11:14AM)
What Marcello doesn't share -- and should emphasis, is SIMPLICITY! His entire objective for all of his effects is to simplify the ability to produce astonishing results.

Even if you never plan on owning a TUC you should go to the Lecture.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Apr 21, 2014 06:53PM)
I would hate to think that I never
got to own a Tuc.That would be sad.
Todd :pout:
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Apr 27, 2014 01:26AM)
I met many of your in the 4 F convention this week. Tomorrow I will perform at Mawny convention in Bufalo and Monday I take a flight to NYC, Tuesday I will lecturing at Tannen magic store
Message: Posted by: SupaHEEro (May 1, 2014 02:37PM)
I love my TUC soft Morgan set, thank you Mr. Tango.;-)
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (May 2, 2014 08:28AM)
Great time I had in 4 FFFF, Mawny Convention and Tannen Magic in buy lecture, thank you to everybody that I met there
Message: Posted by: mormonyoyoman (May 4, 2014 12:50AM)
I'm a bit late to the party, so I'll just ask my stupid question and shut up.
Various shops sell the T.U.C. quarter (with DVD) and the T.U.C. quarter/penny (also with DVD). Is there a difference, or are they the same thing with different names, or am I imagining the whole thing?

*jeep! & God Bless!
--Grandpa Chet
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (May 7, 2014 08:39PM)
TUC quarter is the traditional TUC in quarter version, the TUC quarter/penny is a TUC copper and silver in the smaller version
Message: Posted by: mormonyoyoman (May 7, 2014 08:50PM)
Thank you!

I'm going in my corner and shutting up now.

*jeep and God Bless!
--Grandpa Chet
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (May 25, 2014 09:24AM)
What happend with the tread, put here your TUC routines friends, I have a incredible one with two quarters called "Crazy Years" I will introduce it in the market in one month
Message: Posted by: mormonyoyoman (May 25, 2014 12:23PM)
Been loving my TUC quarter for the past few weeks. (Quarter rather than half dollar because, even though they're harder to classic palm, they're more common.) But I wouldn't consider myself skilled enough (yet) with it to come up with any new routines other than "Did I put that in the parking meter AGAIN?"

*jeep! and God Bless!
---Grandpa Chet
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jul 18, 2014 12:06PM)
Hello Everybody,

I have a new routine using two specials quarter TUCs, I will call it Crazy Years, the effect is that years of the coins exchanged between they once the coins was signed and they are in the espectator hands !
Crazy Years is coming soon !
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jul 29, 2014 07:36PM)
When Mr. Tango mentioned new effects using the quarter TUC a couple of weeks ago I waited to see what others might offer. I am surprised that no one has come forth with anything new nor has offered comments about many of those already available.

My hope in publishing “TUC Appreciation” was to fuel the creativity of others. Maybe this has happened by folks choose to remain silent and protect their innovations. The general interest in the TUC seems to remain high. I will try again.

The Quarter TUC has the advantage of being easily “switched in” for a borrowed quarter. If you carry a collection of quarters in a snap purse the TUC can be readily identified when they are poured out. Most importantly (for me) is that the TUC can be tossed about freely to enhance the “normality” of the coins in an effect. Consider these possibilities:

Both hands can be displayed completely empty while concealing the TUC.

Both hands can seem to each hold a coin when there is but one – and a coin vanishes from the selected hand.

A Goshman Pitch or Schneider Drop Vanish can be enhanced by using the TUC to condition the perceptions of the audience – allowing vanishes in which the Passing hand is shown empty prior to the Reveal.

I can’t go into detail here but will happily discus with anyone – the price being that you post your own Quarter TUC effect. You don’t have to reveal method – just provide an outline of what you do.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jul 30, 2014 04:51PM)
It's still high on my list as one
of the most practical coin galf's
there is.So much you can do with it.
Todd
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 13, 2014 08:03PM)
Hello friends
What can we do to get 200.000 visit in the thread and become in the most incredible thread of this forum ?
Message: Posted by: Poof-Daddy (Aug 14, 2014 01:09AM)
[quote]On Jul 29, 2014, funsway wrote:
When Mr. Tango mentioned new effects using the quarter TUC a couple of weeks ago I waited to see what others might offer. I am surprised that no one has come forth with anything new nor has offered comments about many of those already available.

My hope in publishing “TUC Appreciation” was to fuel the creativity of others. Maybe this has happened by folks choose to remain silent and protect their innovations. The general interest in the TUC seems to remain high. I will try again.

[/quote]

I would venture a guess that there is just SOOOOO much that can be done with a TUC on the DVD alone (not to mention your work on it) that people are overwhelmed with what is already out there and don't feel a need to add more. Just learning the different matrix effects from the DVD has kept me busy for quite some time.
Message: Posted by: Motor City (Aug 17, 2014 01:32PM)
I agree with Poof-Daddy. I believe he hit the nail on the head.
Message: Posted by: Galileo (Aug 17, 2014 08:21PM)
Caved in today and ordered some and I don't think I've been this excited for a new gimmick to arrive since TKO
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 20, 2014 08:25AM)
Crazy years, my new effect with two TUC especially combined, will amaze you once again. I will post the trailer soon.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Aug 29, 2014 09:55AM)
Here is the link to see my new effect with T.U.C, I called Crazy Years

http://youtu.be/Gg_DwgyBQGA
Message: Posted by: MikeMgc (Sep 16, 2014 09:16AM)
Had the kennedy Half TUC now for about 3-4 weeks. So excited about this.

Still practicing, and I have created my own version of Roth's Winged Silver that uses the benefits of the TUC with a table, kind of a cross between Coins Accross and a Coins Translocation. Essentially a super clean coins accross, thanks to the TUC.

The routine I think plays well particularily the fact that the coins can be thrown down to the table following each sequence. I also include a vanish and reproduction as part of the second phase and I got the idea for this from Mark Leveridge's Slo Mo Effect.

The TUC is incredible and will change the face of Coin Magic.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Oct 16, 2014 09:45AM)
Great news Mike, put your video in our facebook page to share with the comunity
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tango-Magic/359722990861524

I invite to everybody to put your videos in our facebook page
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Nov 10, 2014 10:55AM)
Hello Friends,

please enter to my new fan page and put your like

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tango-Magic/359722990861524
Message: Posted by: magidude68 (Nov 13, 2014 09:18AM)
Just received delivery of a ten pence tuc. Great little coin that inspires confidence.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Nov 24, 2014 07:51AM)
Hello friends I will be giving my second Penguin live lcture on December 17, all about coins, I will present the TOP 20 COIN GAFFED ROUTINES.
Besides I will give the following lectures around NY area:

Monday, December 8th—Diamonds Magic—Peabody, MA
Contact: Vince DeAngelis
Phone: 978-535-8950 E-Mail: Vince@DiamondsMagic.com
Time: 7:00 p.m.
Venue: Diamond Magic

Tuesday, December 9th—S.A.M 127—Wallingford, CT
Contact: Bill Hoagland
Phone: 203-877-0157 Cell: 203-314-3511 E-Mail: whoagland@billhmagic.com
Time: 7:00 p.m.
Venue: First United Methodist Church (Downstairs)
Address: 941 Old Rock Hill Road, Wallingford, CT

Wednesday, December 10th—S.A.M. 16—Worcester, MA
Contact: Peter Lentros
Phone: 508-380-3339 Cell: 508-380-3339 E-Mail: pglentros@lentros.com
Time: 6:30 p.m.
Venue: The Magic Barn,
Address: 175R Main Street, Ashland, MA

Monday, December 8th—Diamonds Magic—Peabody, MA
Contact: Vince DeAngelis
Phone: 978-535-8950 E-Mail: Vince@DiamondsMagic.com
Time: 7:00 p.m.
Venue: Diamond Magic
Address: 515 Lowell Street, Suite #4 (second floor), Peabody, MA
Accommodations: ???????
Address: ???????

Tuesday, December 9th—S.A.M 127—Wallingford, CT
Contact: Bill Hoagland
Phone: 203-877-0157 Cell: 203-314-3511 E-Mail: whoagland@billhmagic.com
Time: 7:00 p.m.
Venue: First United Methodist Church (Downstairs)
Address: 941 Old Rock Hill Road, Wallingford, CT
Accommodations: Fairfield Inn, Wallingford 203-284-0001
Address: 100 Miles Drive, Wallingford, CT 06492

Wednesday, December 10th—S.A.M. 16—Worcester, MA
Contact: Peter Lentros
Phone: 508-380-3339 Cell: 508-380-3339 E-Mail: pglentros@lentros.com
Time: 6:30 p.m.
Venue: The Magic Barn,
Address: 175R Main Street, Ashland, MA
Accommodations: Same
Address: Same

Thursday, December 11th—OPEN

Friday, December 12th—OPEN

Saturday, December 13th—Ring 180—Richmond, VA
Contact: Watt (Walter) Hyer
Cell: 307-690-3066 E-Mail: watt@bigplanet.com
Time: ???????
Venue: Divine Magic & Novelties, 804-262-4170
Address: 5409 Lakeside Ave., Richmond, VA 23228

Sunday 14 Magic Warehouse
11419 Cronridge Dr #10, Owings Mills, MD 21117, EE. UU.

Monday 15 Marc De Souza House
106 Ivywood Lane, Wayne, PA
Message: Posted by: bowers (Nov 24, 2014 05:59PM)
Wow can't wait Mr Tango.
Todd
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Dec 3, 2014 12:56PM)
See you next week
Message: Posted by: manreb (Dec 3, 2014 01:30PM)
See you at the Magic Barn.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Dec 7, 2014 07:14PM)
Tomorrow I will be lecturing near Boston, in Peabody
Message: Posted by: bowers (Dec 7, 2014 07:30PM)
I wish you would come to Charlotte N.C. Mr Tango.
Or at least close by.
Todd
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Dec 8, 2014 11:38PM)
Tomorrow I will be in:

Venue: First United Methodist Church (Downstairs)
Address: 941 Old Rock Hill Road, Wallingford, CT
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Dec 9, 2014 10:39PM)
Tomorrow I will lecture at The Magic Barn.
175R Main Street, Ashland, MA
Message: Posted by: OldManGloom (Dec 10, 2014 07:05AM)
I went to Mr. Tango's lecture last night and it was great. I was really expceting just coins but he had some really good card stuff. I would highly suggest going to see him if you can. Favorite part of the lecture, blackberries.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Dec 26, 2014 10:51PM)
That lecture was amazing in the church
Message: Posted by: Justin Lewis (Dec 28, 2014 06:37PM)
Curious about ordering either walking liberties or morganas in T.U.C.
anyone else use Morgans or walkers with this set? needed some info!
thanks again guys!
Message: Posted by: Daniel Clemente (Dec 28, 2014 07:36PM)
I use a walking liberty TUC...its a great little gimmicked coin and well made. What do you want to know about it?
Message: Posted by: Justin Lewis (Dec 28, 2014 07:44PM)
I use scoolcraft, lassen coins mostly. how well are the gimmicks made, I do know how it works. I think its pretty cool! how easy is the handseling of the coins. have you ever had a problem with them? and last question, how do I order a liberty set? I am in the USA
Thanks bud
Message: Posted by: Justin Lewis (Dec 28, 2014 08:28PM)
I found the website :)
Message: Posted by: bowers (Dec 28, 2014 08:45PM)
Ha Justin
Magic Warehouse has the liberty for 250.00
And the morgan for 300.00
Todd
Message: Posted by: funsway (Dec 29, 2014 01:53AM)
I use the Morgan regularly with several fake Morgans for multiple coin effects. No problems at all.

It is the easiest to use (Peace dollar, Half and quarter) but that may be luck. I have never used a Liberty.
Message: Posted by: Justin Lewis (Dec 29, 2014 04:24PM)
Ok guys. I placed an order with magic warehouse. I know no other distributor that has Morgan TUC. I do not want a shiny 1920 Morgan. I want soft Morgan sort of how mr tango uses in his dvd. Does anyone have any advice. Has anyone ordered from magic warehouse and bought the Morgan's. How do they look? Are the soft? Is the coin using the old square "mag..." or round? 300.00 is about a custom coin price, and I want my Morgan to fit the above "needs" I've stopped my order until I know what I am getting. Magic warehouse doesn't like to answer their phones lol
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Dec 30, 2014 02:06PM)
Hello Everybody,

I don't know what happened, maybe my Penguin live lecture last week caused that I sold one Morgan TUC every day, I have them for $ 300 and the Walking liberty of $ 200.

Happy new year for everybody
Message: Posted by: bowers (Dec 30, 2014 06:15PM)
I love my morgan tuc Mr Tango.
Todd :spinningcoin:
Message: Posted by: Justin Lewis (Jan 3, 2015 01:15PM)
How man TUC owners are doing coins across with the coins? I watched TUC secrets. Pretty amazing stuff! Every TUC owner should watch and study the routines.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jan 4, 2015 04:55PM)
[quote]On Jan 3, 2015, Justin Lewis wrote:
How man TUC owners are doing coins across with the coins? I watched TUC secrets. Pretty amazing stuff! Every TUC owner should watch and study the routines. [/quote]

I agree to that.A very good dvd to have.
Todd
Message: Posted by: Justin Lewis (Jan 5, 2015 03:23AM)
Todd thanks for recommending the DVD. I've watched it twice! Order a Morgan TUC from Mr tango directly! Can't wait to get it in the mail soon!
Message: Posted by: magicinsight (Jan 6, 2015 01:56PM)
Is the TUC's secret DVD the same DVD taht comes with the TUC coins?
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jan 6, 2015 08:08PM)
[quote]On Jan 5, 2015, Justin Lewis wrote:
Todd thanks for recommending the DVD. I've watched it twice! Order a Morgan TUC from Mr tango directly! Can't wait to get it in the mail soon! [/quote]

Your very welcome Justin
Let me know when it arrives.
Todd
Message: Posted by: bowers (Jan 6, 2015 08:13PM)
[quote]On Jan 6, 2015, magicinsight wrote:
Is the TUC's secret DVD the same DVD taht comes with the TUC coins? [/quote]



No its not. the TUC Secrets dvd Is taught by
Mr Tango he goes over numerous routiens
that can be accomplished with the TUC coin.
Todd
Message: Posted by: Justin Lewis (Jan 6, 2015 11:20PM)
Here goes my review on my TUC coin. I don't write too many of reviews so hope I am thorough enough and give the respect the coin deserves.

Last week I decided to message Mr Tango and order a Morgan silver Dollar in His TUC line. I sent him a picture of my Morgans that I use now and he completely matched it. Pretty impressive. Another great surprise is that the coin came from Argentina to CA, USA within 4 days. My experience ordering direct from Tango was great, he is very professional and very fast to get the coin out to his customers. Quality of the coin is amazing. I own many Morgan sets from Jamie Schoolcraft, Mark Mason and Bob Swolding and Todd Lassen. The TUC coin is right up there with those names. Mr. Tango's Coin work with his TUC is very good, the coin looks just like a normal old Morgan silver dollar coin, a spectator can stare at the coin all he or she wants, you truly cant see nothing to give the gimmick away. What I am really impressed with is the ease of how the coin works. With a normal movement the coin can be made into two coins. Everything from coins across to 3fly is made much more easier with this coin. I have not practiced coins across yet with the TUC, however it looks very easy to execute the moves and looks really clean with showing just four coins. The DVD is very easily understood, Mr Tango goes over everything you need to perform and practice the routines. Some very cool routines, however I bought the TUC because of seeing coins across base on "winged silver" if I'm not mistaken. Looks very magical.
quality of the coin 1 out of 10... I give it a 10
DVD quality 1out of 10.... I give it a 8

the coin is only limited to your creativity!
http://youtu.be/vkP6w0gmw3M
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jan 7, 2015 01:25AM)
Soon you will be ready for "T.U.C Appreciation" on lulu.com with many additonal effects. sleights and usage
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jan 7, 2015 09:43AM)
Wow more than 200.000 visits, this tread is magical. Thanks Justin for your review.

About the TUC's secrets DVD, we are now including this video with the TUC coins.

By the way in my last Penguin live lecture, a magician that was there made an incredible nice routine with the TUC copper and silver. watch it.
Message: Posted by: Crownhart (Jan 7, 2015 01:25PM)
I have several of Mr. Tango's effects and love them T.U.C. in both the half and quarter. Mr. Tango do you see in the near or distant future of lecturing out in Arizona? If you might like the weather right now in the 70's you can ask a fellow member here in Tucson goes by the name Neznarf. Thanks for your consideration. Happy New Year!
Message: Posted by: Justin Lewis (Jan 7, 2015 03:09PM)
Ill drive to Arizona from California for that!!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Tango (Jan 8, 2015 12:16PM)
I'll be going in April to US to give a live lecture for Murphys and I'm trying to book lectures, if you have some offer let me know and I will put it in my schedule
Message: Posted by: MikeMgc (Jan 14, 2015 07:25AM)
I have been working and practicing with the TUC (Kennedy Half) now for many months. This truly is awesome and a gift to the craft of Coin Magic !

I have been working on another version of Winged Silver (based on the Roth original) but using the TUC and where the hands never meet. This also incorporates a superclean vanish and re-appearance for one of the transits and a penetration as part of the final transit. I have also added a final sequence based on Imagination Coins, where I drop the four coins into a spectators hand and then cause one of the coins to transit into my right hand which has been shown empty along with the left hand.

I performed this for the first time as part of my Boxing Day set and it blew the audience away ! some of whom have seen a lot of Magic and are difficult to fool !

As a great admirer of David Roth I always follow this up with Chink a Chink (following the method from the TUC DVD) The TUC makes this even stronger because the hands can be shown empty with only 4 coins in play before starting the effect.

If budget will allow, I will probably look to pick up another TUC or two at Blackpool as I would love to perform the 13 pieces of silver effect from the DVD !

What can I say, I love this Coin !

I have also recently purchased the e-book by Funsway which has some terrific ideas and handlings for the TUC.
Message: Posted by: Justin Lewis (Jan 21, 2015 01:21PM)
I've been doing flash coins with Morgan's using my Oxf, then after showing the three Morgan
Coins appear back I n the coin purse I go directly into coins across using my TUC Morgan taught by mr tango on his dvd. Question for the coin masters. I've been randomly producing the fourth Morgan I would need. It does not feel quite right reaching into the air and producing the Morgan. Does anyone have any advice on a good way of coming up with the 4th coin. essentially I need to get the TUC Morgan into play
Thanks for any advise! I highly recommend TUC and OXF.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Jan 22, 2015 01:16PM)
One approach is to have for coins in the first place -- perhaps by having a spectator dump them out of an Okito Box.

Then three are handed to you. Surly you can switch in the TUC during the hand off. Later you can retrieve the fourth coin for other effects.

"TUC Appreciation" has several methods for switching in the TUC.

The one prompting the most feedback is using Roth's Chink-a-Chink first with four "handled" coins. In the natural flow of the presentation the e*tra coin is left on the table -- the TUC.
Message: Posted by: Justin Lewis (Jan 23, 2015 12:17AM)
Wow very cool. Thank you sir! I've got to get that book soon
Message: Posted by: griz326 (Feb 4, 2015 05:58PM)
I'm still working on using the gimmick deceptively, but it is very good apparatus. However, the instructional DVD does not compare favorably to my other magic videos; it is more of a "showing video" rather than a "teaching video." The English is dubbed in; I would have preferred sub-titles.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Feb 5, 2015 08:04AM)
Well, Griz, most of the most "deceptive" effect are not on video at all. Welcome to the Café

Since being deceptive is "of the imagination" -- if you can't imagine in your mind how it will look to a spectator, rotate it around and look at it from different angles, etc.,
how will it ever create astonishment in a spectator's mind?

I guess I don't understand "compare favorably" to other magic videos. Why is that a standard to be sought?

How does learning from a video compare with learning by other means such as Mentoring?

My point is that learning "deception" which is admirable has little to do with learning the trick.

and, if your objective is to be entertaining, deception is not the most important factor. Some of my "best" effects for the TUC are too deceptive to appeal to a general audience.
Message: Posted by: griz326 (Feb 5, 2015 01:49PM)
I did not mean deceptive WRT the effect itself, but rather opening the gaff without visible contortions. Even under the cover of movement the manipulation of the unseen gaff is visible in my tri-fold practice mirror. I'll eventually figure out how to do it without the hint of suspiciousness. It is likely to take me a long time because I've just rededicated myself to close-up magic and my hands ain't what they used to be.

>>>I guess I don't understand "compare favorably" to other magic videos. Why is that a standard to be sought?

Clarity. If you are going to call something an "Instructional Video" it should be instructional, not an opportunity to reverse engineer.

In my recent viewing I'll offer my instructional video grading: David Roth vol 1, 2, 3 - A-1 Magical Media (C+/B), Troy Hoosier, DesTROYers - Bob Kohler (B), Luohanqian - Unknown producer (A++). All of those videos do a good job of instruction, but without question the Lohanqian video was a premier example of good shot planning, good lighting, good camera work, good post-production, and a capable instructor.

The grades have nothing to do with the skill level of the instructional video instructor.

I create instructional videos, so my standards are high.

Can you learn from the videos that come with the TUC? Yes. The more accomplished the magician, the easier the task. I'm not sure that a beginner could learn from the videos. Of course, I'd rather perfection be applied to the manufacture of the apparatus than the perfection of the videos, but I'd prefer perfection in both.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Feb 5, 2015 06:13PM)
I understand you position better now, but not why you think ANY video is essential to learning how to use this gaff effectively.

They can be valuable tool, and easier for some to learn from than other methods, but hardly essential.

But I agree that if you thought you were getting Instructional video you might be disappointed.

Marcello knew very little English before inventing the TUC. He learned this language specifically to be able to tour the world and market this device.

Before that most of the instructions that came with Tango gimmick were almost unreadable.

They are so much better now, and I am happy to have been part of that transition.

Not an excuse, just "clarifying" why we are fortunate to have any video at all.

Given the weirdness of the Argentine economy I really don't see how he survives.
Message: Posted by: griz326 (Feb 6, 2015 10:05AM)
I wish I could share the Luohanqian instructional video, it is a thing of beauty. Luohanqian is a nice set of Chinese coins, shells, and a jumbo that comes with an instructional video. IMO, the set is worth the $$$ just to see the video. Of course, we all know a thousand places to learn the effects taught, but the video is just a joy to watch.

Bottom line: I like my Tango coins and may buy the CSB today.
Message: Posted by: Justin Lewis (Feb 9, 2015 03:09AM)
Hey griz326. I've had my TUC Morgan now for A few months. I've been into mentalism for last 15 years so sleight-of-hand is something that doesn't come as easy to me. I have been practicing the way Mr. Tango opens the TUC and it does take a little bit of practice, however; I assure you Your spectators will not see you open it once you have the Move down. I bought my TUC Morgan solely to perform the coinss across routine based on Roths winged silver. The routine is working great with my audiences. there's a lot being hidden in the larger or bigger movements. Your practice mirror will see things your audience will not.
Hope this helps.
Message: Posted by: funsway (Feb 9, 2015 06:17AM)
"T.U.C. Appreciation" explores additional ways of opening the TUC.
Message: Posted by: Slackerking (Feb 16, 2015 05:17PM)
I'm pretty much a complete beginner with coins and found it easy to learn from the instructional videos. They show everything they need to show and are very straightforward. It's actually refreshing to not have some over wordy instructor.
Message: Posted by: Wenzelo (Feb 17, 2015 06:39AM)
Is it available in euro?
Message: Posted by: funsway (Feb 17, 2015 04:45PM)
[quote]On Feb 17, 2015, Wenzelo wrote:
Is it available in euro? [/quote]


Yes -- several .

contact Mr. TAngo
Message: Posted by: Wenzelo (Feb 19, 2015 11:16AM)
[quote]On Feb 17, 2015, funsway wrote:
[quote]On Feb 17, 2015, Wenzelo wrote:
Is it available in euro? [/quote]


Yes -- several .

contact Mr. TAngo [/quote]
thanks for info
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Feb 27, 2015 07:00PM)
I have TUC and I think it is one of those gimmicks that will fade over time. I used it a bit for a while and then it ended up in the back shelf.

There is so much good magic that can be done with sturdier, longer lasting props.

I would rather have a good ol sh*ll or fl*pp*r.

KJ
Message: Posted by: inigmntoya (Feb 27, 2015 08:41PM)
What's not sturdy or long lasting about a TUC?

And a "good ol" fl*pp*r or sh*ll won't have its m*gn*t*c properties.

It's just another tool in the bag. Whether better or worse depends on what you want to do.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Feb 27, 2015 08:53PM)
I still love mine..
Todd
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Feb 28, 2015 12:32PM)
[quote]On Feb 27, 2015, inigmntoya wrote:
What's not sturdy or long lasting about a TUC?

And a "good ol" fl*pp*r or sh*ll won't have its m*gn*t*c properties.

It's just another tool in the bag. Whether better or worse depends on what you want to do. [/quote]

I have just found that by using it frequently, it no longer functions smoothly. With occasional maintenance on the fl*pp*r it is always good as new. My favorite is the x-sh*ll. I do take reasonable care of them, and I have never even had to repair one.

I find the same problem with many Johnny Wong coins. They function great for a while, then they stop functioning so smoothly after a while.

To each his own, but I've noticed that people who perform for decades tend to gravitate to the same props I have gravitated to.

KJ
Message: Posted by: Justin Lewis (Mar 1, 2015 01:42PM)
Hi kj, have you replaced the teflon material? I use many gaff coins, many from top guys out there, TUC being one of them
I find if you replace the Teflon its sort of like giving the car an oil change and tune up.
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Mar 3, 2015 01:36PM)
Thanks Justin, that is a good suggestion, and no, I have not. Where do you purchase Teflon?

I will do that, but I have since developed several routines that are very entertaining using Hopping Halves, Double Deception, e-sh*lls, and fl*pp*r coins. I find these coins require less maintenance.

KJ
Message: Posted by: Justin Lewis (Mar 3, 2015 03:02PM)
Oh nice. Those are some great coins sets. I use those as well
You can contact tango. He sales them as well and in the USA there is JB magic, mark mason has them. Very cheap. Mark sent me some for free last month. I use his come fly with me in Morgans. Mr tango is also really helpful. He has them as well.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Mar 3, 2015 09:34PM)
The teflon really helps the quietness of the
nesting of the shell and a coin.
Todd
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Mar 4, 2015 10:15AM)
Thanks for the info.

KJ
Message: Posted by: MikeMgc (Mar 5, 2015 04:38AM)
I still love my TUC and is now part of my regular coin set, perfect for an ultra clean Winged Silver and Chink a Chink.