Hi guys and gals,

I'm currently working on an idea where I get a freely chosen number (that is freely chosen not a force) and it matches a prediction in an envelope that has been in full view throughout.

I want the audience member to be able to open the envelope and keep it if possible.

Obviously I will need to steal the info and get it in to the envelope.

What I'd like to know is if there are any such methods already available.

If not, then I guess I'd better start trying to come up with one

Thanks in advance,

Ros

I use the "C" section on page 12 & 13 of 13 Steps to Mentalism.

Then chuck in some "wonder words" to get the audience to "see" the effect it is you want to create.

Mike, I feel like such a doofus. Totally over looked it.

If anyone else has any other ideas please let me know.

I was wondering if any of the signed card to sealed envelope type effects could be altered to achieve this effect.

I don't currently perform any of these types of effects, so if anyone has any thoughts on this that'd also be awsome. I was wondering if the method on Still Fancy a Pot of Jam? by James Brown could be used as the description says the effect is it all happens in the specs hands.

Thanks again,

Ros

Right you are 421M.D.B.421.

Thanks

Check out ESPnvelope at http://www.mindmagic.myfoolmoon.com./ Highly rec. Paul

Roslyn, I really could not find envelopes as Corinda described. So I went to a paper warehouse to find the paper. They sell eack type in packs of 500. I make the envelopes myself. The only problem is the imprint.

Roslyn, the card to envelope on 'fancy a pot of jam' wont work for what you want it to do. The idea of James' effect is a role reversal of magi and spec, the spec performs a card to envelope for you.

Roslyn, you can probably buy the paper online. I have the paper's manufacture. If you would like it send me a PM.

Oh ok,
Thanks for that.
Looks like I'll have to go in search of some paper.
Unless there's a card to envelope method that people think might do the job???
Or, if I have to use a force to keep it clean, if anyone knows of a decent one that could do the job??
I don't want to have to resort to having more than one four digit number chosen. No adding up stuff etc.
I don't like that kind of stuff. Not really clean enough for me.

If you consider the envelope in display needs to be opened to reveal another envelope that the spec can open and keep (i.e. "its double sealed! No tampering here ho ho") - your options will expand.

Ok, I think I understand what you're getting at.

Thanks Dr.

For stage/stand up presentations - john archers spelling test is ideal.

Now that's an interesting idea!

You will find it hugely useful. I use it for words, numbers, countries, and it never fails to hit the audience hard.

Pete firman has a variation of the handling, which anyone interested in this effect should check out.

best wishes, david.

I also use Archers method with a couple of changes for a number on the back of a photo in a sealed envelope.The story I use is quite dark. As they call out the number I pick up a blank pad very casually and TW the number on the prepared photo in the appropriate space, using the pad as cover, then hand them the blank pad ala Archer and reach into my pocket to get them a pen to write it down themselves so that they remember it. Of coarse the load happens while I'm getting the pen. I repeat the number as they write it down on the pad, then go into my little lines of 'why did you choose that number" blah, blah then pull out the wallet and the rest is history!

This may be late in the game to post some insights here but...

Check out the Mark Leveridge Envelopes- he details them on his DVD 3 Vol. set, as well as sells them on his site. (No...I'm not a shill). You can also check out the Piatt envelope as well. Karrell Fox published an odd idea but it works. Take a manila envelope, clasp type and in the bottom half you place your "prediction." Yes, I know it doesn't fulfill the requirements stated above about "no force." Then half-way up the envelope's interior, place a piece of double sided tape. For your performance, write the second of two choices on a card and place in the (top) half of the envelope. You can use a 10/11 force for this. If they pick the second choice, tear open the top half and let your prediction fall out. If they pick the bottom half number, tear along the middle of the envelope and let the pre-set prediction fall out. Either way, it appears as if you predicted the number. This is an ideal way to have a two-way out.
I have thought of pasting either the piatt envelope or leveridge envelope, or Fox envelope, back to back for a 4 way out, but have not tried it.

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