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Manny New user 57 Posts |
Bored?
What can I do to rekindle my interest? Leave magic for a few years, if you are still bored you be may chronically bored and magic can't help you. Else welcome back and enjoy the riches and challenges magic can offer. Good luck |
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Andy the cardician Inner circle A street named after my dad 3362 Posts |
Thanks Kato-san,
I was thinking about picking up the Ukulele last summer. Guess, the topic will come up again. Will seek your advice later on . . . Andy
Cards never lie
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elmago Loyal user Northridge- Los Angeles, CA 272 Posts |
No one said anything about selling and marketing effects. Elandish said it best. The rush you get from performing something that you spent so much time on is amazing. It takes me back to when I started doing magic. That giddy feeling gets lost after a while. Inventing or improving a trick is just ONE suggestion that has worked for me.
Remeber REvil, he said that he is very picky about what is already out there. His creation is not for the magic community. It is a personal journey that will make look at magic from a different perspective and fight boredom. This may be for another topic, but it seems you (REvil) want magic to stop growing because there is already too much out there. Dai Vernon's Twisting the Aces should have been the end all then. Forget Waving the Aces, McClintock Twist, NFW, Asher Twist and all the other variations that in my opinon are improvements. I have made alternate handlings for some of these effects that will never get published because they are just for me. Its a good thing Stewart James didn't stop learning the basics. Then you would be bored with nothing to read. There are 2 forums for getting ideas here in the Café. There is the "We double dare you" and the "We triple dare you" sections that are food for thought. Ofcourse this all assumes that he has a creative mind to pull it off. M.R.
"Excellence is not a single act; it's a habit" Shaq quoting Aristotle after winning NBA MVP.
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Niko Special user England 599 Posts |
I'm 18 and have been performing now for two and a half years, and learning magic for a couple of years before that. Doesn't seem a long time, but I have enough experience to know what I am doing and provide good entertainment.
I think I need to see another magician in action; that's what first motivated me to do magic, seeing this wonderful magician perform and wanting to be like him. I still love watching magic, and I think it is just my tricks that I'm bored of - I think I need just to learn some more effects.
When you do something right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
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DomKabala Inner circle I've grown old after diggin' holes for 2827 Posts |
18 is a young age. I began showing an interest in magic at an early age. But I also had other interests such as art and sports. I love to draw and I was drawn into and excelled in one-on-one type sports such as Judo, Karate, Kung Fu, Wrestling and Boxing. Magic filled my need to find out out how magicians seemed to do the impossible. It was this curiosity that kept my interest in magic alive. But, when I joined the Navy in 1980 my magic interest waned. By this time, I had accomplished a lot in the sports interests. I was a 2 time AAU wrestling champ in High School (1970 Florida state champ). I won the Central Fla. Golden Gloves featherweight title in early 1980. I also attended the Art Institute of Ft. Lauderdale and studied commercial art after graduating high school ('70). Sorry for elaborating, but what I am trying to get across, is that maybe you need to have other interests too. All work and no play makes for a boring day. I recently (2003)began rekindling the magic interest & the sleights that I learned back then came back almost instantly. There is so much information available and so many new innovations that it is overwhelming. I never really considered pursuing magic as a livelihood but it has been a very rewarding hobby for me. You are young, and you have a lot to explore my friend. Take time to do & explore different things and don't get burned out in the process. And if you ever tie the knot & have children, you will find out that what was once top priority, takes the back seat. Good luck and take the time to appreciate the scenery.
Cardamagically, <<<KRaZy4KaRdZ>>>
We don't stop playing when we grow old...we grow old when we stop playing.
God is enough, let go, let God. Gal 2:20 "Anything of value is not easily attained and those things which are easily attained are not of lasting value." |
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DStachowiak Inner circle Baltimore, MD 2158 Posts |
Niko
I find that (for me) nothing makes an activity into a bore as quickly as turning it into a job. I wonder if it might not be the idea that you are committing to working so many paid gigs that is boring you. I'm not suggesting that you cut out paid jobs entirely, but if it's getting to be a grind, maybe you need to take a break and start doing Magic for the reason you started in the first place, to have fun. One of my passions is photography. A few years ago, I started working at it professionally, partly because in the days of film, it was becoming an exceedingly expensive hobby to pursue. It seemed that the more it became a job, the less pleasure I took in just taking photos. The solution was to cut back on paid photo work. I have a "day job", and photography has gone back to being mostly a hobby. I still do a paid job now and then, but I shoot mostly for pleasure now, and I find I enjoy it the way I used to. Just my 2 cents worth, I hope you find a way to get the fun back! Good luck!
Woke up.
Fell out of bed. Dragged a comb across m' head. |
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Jaxon Inner circle Kalamazoo, Mi. 2537 Posts |
I skipped reading all your posts because I wanted to share my thoughts on the original one that started this discussion from Niko. Things came to mind as soon as I read it so I didn't want to get distracted from my line of though on this.
First let me say that you are describing exactly what I and I'm sure many others have experienced. You've come to a cross road with you magic here. There are two ways you can go. One is to just loose interest completely and find other activities to focus on. Or you can seek out another part of magic that you haven't yet experienced. I'll tell you a little secret that I've discovered. Many magicians who create original magic effect don't like performing that much anymore. I can't speak for everyone and I know there are exceptions. But most of the magicians I know that have created their own tricks or have developed a signature act tend to think less about performing and more about creating. But notice that I didn't say they all "Market" new tricks or props. What happens is our focus changes course. While I use to desire performing all the time. I now mostly desire finding a new magic idea or even just a new way to present things I already perform. I love it when I think up a simple joke that will fit well into one of my tricks or routines. Or an object I saw at the store that I could make into a trick or prop. Another similar example is something I'm playing with right now. I picked up Prohibition from Charlie Justice (I love it by the way). Anyway, I've come up with quite a few variations of it and I love to tell Charlie about them to see what he thinks. You see what I mean? It's not about performing to me anymore. It's about discovering and experimenting. Don't get me wrong though. I still perform and I can still enjoy it sometimes. Other time it feels like work. But that's okay. I've had many less interesting jobs before. Want to talk about magic feeling like a job. I once had a gig that was approximately 15 shows a day 4 days a week for a month. I'd do a 15 minute show. Then 5 minutes later do another, then another, then another. By the 5th show of the first day I was like a robot. I just ran through the show over and over again. I learned a lot on that gig too. So, I hope you find your way. There's nothing wrong with loosing interest in magic. Many have done that. I went for a few years and didn't do more then maybe 4 or 5 tricks. Then one day my interest in magic rekindled. You just never know. But keep in mind that magic is only magic. What I mean by that is it can make you happy and your spectators happy. But there are many other things that can fill that need too. You're at an age where many changes are going on. I suggest you don't dwell on it too much. Do it when you feel like it. Take care. Ron Jaxon |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Niko:
Boredom with your magic is a pivotal point in your development. This is the point where your magic is just about to make the leap. Practice your magic until it becomes boring, then practice it until it becomes beautiful. Also, start on a real creative binge. Create one new trick every day. They don't all have to be blockbusters. Out of every 10, maybe 1 will be a good idea. Spend a week on card revelations. Also, find a sleight you have always wanted to learn, and a routine to use it in.
"The Swatter"
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kregg Inner circle 1950 Posts |
I had a teacher who loved to say, "You're not bored, you are a bore!"
Once upon a time, I too thought this about magic. I later realized that I was not bored, I'd lost my passion for the craft. Hey, that's okay. Some of us need to explore other creative outlets, wandering to find a raw passion is what keeps us whole. Happy Hunting, Kregg
POOF!
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evolve629 Inner circle A stack of 3838 Posts |
If you are at a plateau, is not satisfactory then it is a waste of your valuable time and energy. Many people become bored with their magic and/or get stuck in a frustrating plateau. Or some get in the habit of doing the same magic practices the same way over and over. This causes boredom and disinterest, and eventually improvement comes to a staggering halt.
I'd suggest - Change Method of Doing Practice - Try New Effects - Vary Your Practice Order - Vary the Number of Magic Efforts Performed - Take Action Action often creates motivation. Good luck.
One hundred percent of the shots you don't take don't go in - Wayne Gretzky
My favorite part is putting the gaffs in the spectators hands...it gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside! - Bob Kohler |
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erlandish Inner circle Vancouver, Canada 1254 Posts |
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I think I need to see another magician in action; that's what first motivated me to do magic, seeing this wonderful magician perform and wanting to be like him. I still love watching magic, and I think it is just my tricks that I'm bored of - I think I need just to learn some more effects. Are you socializing with many magicians right now? I've found that hanging out with other people who are passionate about the same things you are can be very motivating -- whether it's about magic, or art, or sports, or whatever. |
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Police Magician Special user Georgia 648 Posts |
Try ventriloquism and puppets. Changes the pace a bit and you might find both work to your advantage.
Glenn
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Nick Wait Inner circle Lichfield, UK 1042 Posts |
Your still on the Café, so there must be some spark left, you just need to rekindle it. You need to find something that excites you about magic, but first you've really got to ask yourself if you want to find something new, or if you would prefer to drop magic. I would take some time off from magic, don't tie our self down to gigs and practice schedules and come back to it when yur ready. I say don't practice to schedules however keep m,agic within your life, decks of cards around the house, posters your tricks etc. don't let youself forget magic, and one day when theres nothing else on to do you'll come back to them.
Make your practice fun, turn your music up, grab a beer, and just mess about with magic effects. Another idea would be to try another genre, you look a close up kind of guy so maybe you should try stage. And like so many others, why don't yuo try creating stuff, I get a buzz from ideas be an effect premise, methodology or just act act script, joke or entie routine. Creating stuff for me provides me with the artistic integrity that justifys to myself performing to others. I am as a rule a close up guy but saying that, there is no buzz compared to that of when your on stage with hundreds of people looking, listyeming and judging you. You can not be bored then. |
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