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doctor_joe Regular user Vancouver, CANADA 107 Posts |
Can anyone tell me if Bill Malone's version of Sam the Bellhop would be too complicated for someone without advanced card sleight skills. I currently use a routine by Frank Everhart.
Joe Finkler Vancouver, CANADA |
Andy the cardician Inner circle A street named after my dad 3362 Posts |
I would say yes, if you ask yourself that question by purely watching it.
Cards never lie
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Stanyon Inner circle Landrum, S.C. by way of Chicago 3433 Posts |
If you are already doing Everhart's routine stick with it. All Malone has added are a lot of shuffles and cuts (albeit false).
FWIW
Stanyon
aka Steve Taylor "Every move a move!" "If you've enjoyed my performance half as much as I've enjoyed performing for you, then you've enjoyed it twice as much as me!" |
Kevin Viner Loyal user San Diego, CA 203 Posts |
Stanyon,
I am going to politely disagree, if I may. While the Everhart routine is great, Bill Malone's false cuts and shuffles truly elevate it to a greater form of entertainment (in my opinion). I purchased the Bill Malone Sam the Bellhop VHS when I was 15 or 16, and from it learned the Zarrow shuffle, along with many other great false cuts and shuffles. Whether a beginner can actually perform the routine is obviously debatable, I firmly believe that the learning can aid any beginner.
Warmest regards,
Kevin Viner Corporate Magician in Los Angeles, CA | Magician in San Diego | Magician in Orange County, CA | |
Stanyon Inner circle Landrum, S.C. by way of Chicago 3433 Posts |
Mr. Viner,
You can disagree! If you ever saw Frank run "Sam" for patrons at the Ivanhoe you would know how truly entertaining his presentation was. Bill has just made the routine into more "eye candy". I knew both Frank and Bill from my Chicago days and know the caliber of entertainers they were/are. By my telling Mr. Finkler to stick with the Everhart routine I was not inferring that he should not eventually start working the cuts and shuffles into his presentation. Respectfully,
Stanyon
aka Steve Taylor "Every move a move!" "If you've enjoyed my performance half as much as I've enjoyed performing for you, then you've enjoyed it twice as much as me!" |
Andy the cardician Inner circle A street named after my dad 3362 Posts |
The trick lives from the presenter and his style . . . the cuts and shuffles and what ever you choose to add to it are the icing on the cake.
Cards never lie
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Kevin Viner Loyal user San Diego, CA 203 Posts |
Stanyon,
I apologize for misunderstanding your original intent with the post. I always hate these online boards anyways . . . unfortunately text on a screen has no emotion or understanding.
Warmest regards,
Kevin Viner Corporate Magician in Los Angeles, CA | Magician in San Diego | Magician in Orange County, CA | |
Steve Landavazo Special user Northern California 654 Posts |
Sam The Bellhop is within anyone's reach with a ton of practice. The sleights are not technically demanding the way Bill Malone teaches them. The story line and the rest from repetition of practice.
This is an awesome tape! Stever
Courage is the willingness to be afraid and act anyway!
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Larry Bean Inner circle I'm digging enough holes for 2016 Posts |
The routine would be demanding for a beginner, but what worthwhile routine doesn't require the time and effort to learn it. Once learned - if it was kept up - it would be an invaluable asset in your repertoire.
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doctor_joe Regular user Vancouver, CANADA 107 Posts |
Thanks to all who responded to my post, especially Stanyon and Kevin Viner.
I will probably go ahead and buy Bill Malone's DVD on this routine. While I am practising Mallone's shuffles, I can still use the Everhart routine that I purchased from Midwest Magic until I am proficient at the false cuts and shuffles. Looking forward to meeting one of you magicians some day. Joe Finkler Vancouver, CANADA |
doctor_joe Regular user Vancouver, CANADA 107 Posts |
Gentleman,
While I have your attention, I am wondering if you might consider the following request. A few years ago I purchased the Canadian version of Obie O'Brian's Pass the Buck and last year I purchased the American version. Unfortunately, I lost both enevelopes with the laminated money bills and the instructions. I roughly remember the routine, but not the set up of the double-sided bills. Therefore, I am wondering if one of you would be willing to share this part of the instructions with me? I think I can remember when to perform the Elmsley count. Thanks again for your interest and time. Sincerely, Joe Finkler Vancouver, CANADA |
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