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Magicmike1949 Special user 643 Posts |
If you work with a memorized deck and include a story trick in your repetoire, do you compromise the method by doing a bunch of false shuffles and cuts? At some point does it become obvious that you're really not mixing the cards?
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Cain Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 1550 Posts |
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On 2008-02-01 17:02, Frank Starsini wrote: Oh man, this is great. Anyway, Karl Hein is supposed to have one. I do not know where it can be found but it's supposed to be top-notch (no surprise there).
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Cranial Fermentator Loyal user 238 Posts |
I found another one, this time on page 68 of John Fisher's Magic Book. It's called the Treasure Trail, and is a tale of adventurers hunting for diamonds.It doesn't quite use the entire deck,just 32 cards, but unlike most of the other story cards tricks I've seen, it would be perfect to perform for kids.
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Cranial Fermentator Loyal user 238 Posts |
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On 2008-01-14 16:35, Ashley Cox wrote: By the description, I'm pretty sure "Diamonds on the Island" is the same trick as "Treasure Trail"! |
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Danny Hustle Inner circle Boston, MA USA 2393 Posts |
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On 2008-02-01 17:31, Larry Barnowsky wrote: Sorry, Elliot the Hawk's is better. "MT is one of the reasons we started this board! I’m so sick of posts being deleted without any reason given, and by unknown people at that." - Steve Brooks Sep 7, 2001 8:38pm ©1999-2014 Daniel Denney all rights reserved. |
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adamc Regular user Sydney, Australia 138 Posts |
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On 2008-01-15 10:52, silverking wrote: What is the story that you tell? I've never really understood the manuscript for Aunt Mary's Terrible Secret. I mean, the whole back story about Aunt Mary and the Terrible Williamon's, etc, is that something that David Williamson uses in his presentation? Or does he just go straight to the part about a proposition bet and then use the rest of the patter as outlined in the 3 phases? Is the story about Aunt Mary just an interesting anecdote for us to read, but it isn't actually discussed during the performance? Or do you guys actually talk about your Aunt Mary who had a gambling problem, and how she used to lure suckers in and take their money? It would be great to see this actually performed, but apparently it's never appeared on any video. I like the effect, but I'm just curious as to the "story" that everyone uses to present it. Adam |
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Sword of the Soldier Elite user 437 Posts |
Magic Mike I think it depends on how you are presenting it and your skill with blind shuffles.
I do Sam the Bellhop on occasion, but I in no way present it as a magic trick. I present it as a story...it is what it is. The shuffles and cuts act as sort of a display of skill subliminally, I think, while really being just a fun story. Second, if you have good blind shuffles it is never noticed or even thought you are not mixing. The audience generally has no clue that blinds can look that true. A good card man therefore has nothing to fear. However this is only my opinion from having seen how perfect a blind shuffle can be. Keep Your Wand Up, Josh |
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Tim Sutton Elite user Tim Sutton AIMC, London UK 461 Posts |
The link to 'Hopping Henry' posted above is no longer valid. Click on my website below and go to videos.
Yours, Tim |
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Wayne Kawamoto Regular user 164 Posts |
I think this one is missing from the list:
http://magic.about.com/od/magicreview/fr/071707mellers2.htm It's by Mel Mellers and is called "Thinking on Your Feet." It's a "Sam" style story, but Mellers makes it look as if he's trying to tell a story from a mixed up deck. Just for completeness, and I don't know if this has been published, but Doc Eason performs his version of "Sam The Bellhop" where it looks as if the deck somehow got out of order. -Wayne
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Cardstuntman New user 97 Posts |
Karl Hein's is called Jack Spade Private Eye... W/ four on the floor baby! I am pretty sure it is in his lecture notes.
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RollyD New user 67 Posts |
Looking at Elliot the Hawk's presentation, I found it to be pretty funny BUT look at some of the viewer comments. After about 7 pages of reviews, I got the feeling that only about half the audience "got the joke." Is the way he presented it only apparent to "knowledgeable lay audiences" and magicians? I like how he looked at the cards to "come up with the story." Throw in some false cuts and shuffles and it might look like its really impromptu. Comments?
I recently bought Bill Malone's DVD on Sam the Bellhop to learn the false cuts and psychology, etc. but I don't like the "tone of the script." The Aristocrats is just plain crude. A chip and a chair can be a little on the politically incorrect side as well (plus Im not an avid poker player so the jargon doesn't come natural to me). Maybe I need to find a good Aesop's fable and try to add some comedy.. that would probably fit better with my personality and the crowd I like to entertain. Hey, it gets us thinking to be more original right? Rolly |
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Sealegs Inner circle The UK, Portsmouth 2596 Posts |
1st magic effect I ever spent money on was called 'Round the Block of Flats" but I don't know who, if anyone, claimed to have originated the story.
It was either a forerunner or a rip off of Sam the Bellhop. However in this version the joker (who in the story was a 'Spiv' ie fixer or streetwise concierge) would keep making an appearance. As it was an effect bought from a magic shop there were no false shuffles involved but there was a simple and effective method for getting back to the Joker after repeated cutting of small blocks. Neal
Neal Austin
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Tim Sutton Elite user Tim Sutton AIMC, London UK 461 Posts |
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On 2008-11-30 21:48, RollyD wrote: I found the effectiveness of my own full-deck effect 'Hopping Henry' increased enormously when I played up the improvisation aspect at the beginning of the trick. The structure of the script needs to be such that the comedy is enhanced by this treatment. Believe it or not, at the finish some audience members will still question whether they've seen a clever swindle or a brilliant act of extemporisation. Either way, they should feel they've seen something amazing. Tim |
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Roger Kelly Inner circle Kent, England 3332 Posts |
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On 2008-11-21 19:37, Wayne Kawamoto wrote: I'll second this one by Mel Mellers. A little acting skill might be required - but only a little. It's the best Ive seen for comedy and the huge cards give you the reason to opt out of continous sleight of hand. Good review too Wayne! |
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Sealegs Inner circle The UK, Portsmouth 2596 Posts |
I thought I'd just make a point about the reappearance of the Joker mentioned in routine in my post above. It adds both an extra comedic and magic element to the effect.
Comedically it acts like a running gag. Everytime the Joker turns up it elicits a laugh. It also provides punctuation for the story and 'reminds' the audience of the magic element of the effect. This can sometimes get lost. The 'effect' can easily disappear by being subsumed by the story. Neal
Neal Austin
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