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aussiemagic Special user 937 Posts 
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I came up with a version of twisting the aces in which I do everything as per the normal routine but at the end I turn the cards up one by one and the last ace has turned into the spectators signed card.
Now, I am not really a "card guy" and I am presuming what I came up with probably isn't new. I was just wondering where I can find any routines similar to what I came up with. Thanks.
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bicycle66 Regular user 108 Posts
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I can not remember which DVD but in Bill Malone on the Loose he showed a twisting the aces which sounds similar to what you are describing. When I go home I will look at the DVDs and let you know the volume. Hope this helps Sean.
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aussiemagic Special user 937 Posts
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Thanks Sean.
I came up with what I think is a pretty good way to finish the routine. You have a card signed and returned to the deck, you remove the four aces and perform twisting the aces and then you show three aces and the last ace has turned into the spectators signed card. But I find it hard to believe that no one has ever done this before? Would be interested in the Bill Malone routine. Thanks
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The amazing Thirdeye New user Hamburg, Germany 26 Posts
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On 2010-11-25 20:48, bicycle66 wrote: If we are thinking about the same effect, it is on Bill Malone's On The Loose Vol. 2 and it's called Think, Touch, Turn. |
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WilburrUK Veteran user 389 Posts
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If my memory serves me right (it sometimes does), Bro. John Hamman's "Twisting Revisited" uses the A,2,3,4 of spades, and the last card, when turned face up is a red 4. Could just as easily be a signed card.
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts
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In my TTA routine, I end with the Heart card, which I reverse spread to show a blank. Lots of fodder for routines with "finding your heart" which I feel puts the necessary period on the end of a great effect...
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MagicJuggler Inner circle Anchorage, AK 1161 Posts
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You could do the same kind of thing by just doing twisting the aces as normal, then following up with "A problem with Hofzinser" from the Classic Magic of Larry Jennings, where the ace that corisponds to the suit of the selected card turns face down magically, then turns out to be the selected card, and the ace is then shown to be face up in the center of the deck.
There's also Royal Twist from the same book, where the cards turn face up one at a time, and the last turns out to be the ace of spades, then the cards are immediatley shown to have changed into a royal flush. Could be adjusted with a little thought to be the three mates to the selected card.
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magogae New user Torino (Italy) 32 Posts
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About Twisting the aces I can't find in magic cafè an old post related to "how to get in Twisting the aces effect", can you help me? it was a post about an alternative move to prepare the 4 cards for the twisting effect.
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TC Ryder Elite user Florida 494 Posts
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Mike Ammar has a nice twisting aces routine on his Easy to Master Card Miracles Volume 2. I think it is Dai Vernon's routine.
You may want to check that one out. TC |
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Scott Fridinger Special user Gloucester Pt, VA 893 Posts
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On 2010-12-02 13:30, TC Ryder wrote: This is not a twisting aces effect, this is pretty much THE Twisting the Aces effect.
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RickVancouver Special user Vancouver, BC 697 Posts
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I came up with a version a long time ago where the last Ace (Spades) has vanished from the packet and ends up face-up in the deck of cards. I wanted to give the routine a twist at the end. (pardon the pun)
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OL1VERscheiber New user 35 Posts
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On 2010-12-02 07:45, magogae wrote: Look into Jon Racherbaumer's Counthesaurus page 135, method 2 "Preparing to Twist", another hint is Ken Krenzel.
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DelMagic Special user 721 Posts
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Some ideas similar to what others have mentioned:
In Racherbaumer's Good Twists & Turns he has two routines which are obvious derivatives of the classic twisting the aces routine, but are described using the A, 2, 3, and 4 of clubs. On one routine, the final card (the 4) turns face up as a red 4 but it could be a signed card. However, if it was signed, the final switch back to the four of clubs would make less sense. The second routine has a card physically selected from the deck and then "lost" in the deck. The performer then goes through the full A-4 of clubs twisting and then even a few more effects. Finally a spectator freely selects a card in the A-4 packet (verbally announces the selection, doesn't pick it physically) and then this single card does a few flips face-down, face-up and face-down. Finally it is turned over and shown to be the originally selected card. I don't remember the signing being emphasized, but it can be a signed card. You could easily do this with four aces rather than the A, 2, 3 & 4 of clubs. I do both of these routines and they have been favorites of mine for about 20-years. |
jimvines Regular user Brooklyn, NY 161 Posts
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Here's a half-baked idea... Have spect choose a card freely. Use a dbl turnover to get them to actually sign the back of the Ace of Spades. Dbl turnover again and table the face up indifferent card which they think has their signature on the back (wrist kill the ace). Do twisting the aces with face up aces turning face down one by one. The last one, the ace of spades, turns face down -- and shocker -- has their signature on it. The tabled card can now be shown to have no sig on the back. With some thinking about it, you could attach some meaning to the indifferent tabled card and the aces through yr patter, etc.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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On 2010-11-23 10:37, aussiemagic wrote: As others have mentioned, some of the card guys associate the basic theme with a minor item of Hofzinser's. Those who've read on the guy would quickly realize that without a presentation it appears rather self indulgent to ask the person who took a card to bear with you as you get the suit of their chosen card wrong three times only to find the last "guess" of a suit is in fact their card. Perhaps if framed it could play. It's an intermediate level card exploration, sort of "okay you learned how to do a sidesteal and Vernon's Twisting routine so let's see if I an get away with this, and then oh yes have the last ace turned over in the pack too" ... If you came to that on your own - good. Keep up that sort of exploration and make sure to try them out for audiences and find what combination of parts of known tricks works well for you. That is the path of a serious card student. 
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Paul Inner circle A good lecturer at your service! 4409 Posts
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On 2010-12-02 17:01, Scott Fridinger wrote: Well spotted Scott! |
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On 2010-11-23 10:37, aussiemagic wrote: I am one that don't like people signing cards, because I feel it slows down the pace. If I did used your idea, I would place the signed card in the card box all by itself for safe keeping. I am sure you are ahead of me on this... The last ace turns into the signed card and the missing ace is dumped out of the card box. That would be one way that I would like to do it. R |
martydoesmagic Inner circle Essex, UK 1670 Posts
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I think Simon Lovell advocates signing the A-S in Vernon's TTA. Because it hold some of your helper's personality, the card will not obey you, so will not 'twist'. Give your volunteer the packet, get them to do the final twist and to have a more memorable ending.
If you want to research different versions of this plot, the following post by Lawerence O is an excellent starting point: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/searc......=6531347 Marty |
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martydoesmagic Inner circle Essex, UK 1670 Posts
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Yep, it was Lovell:
"I'm certainly not the only one who has thought of doing twisting the aces with four chosen cards instead but if you haven't tried this I suggest you do so - it takes an already powerful effect and adds high emotional content to it! A tiny addition is that the card playing the ace of spades is a signed card from a previous effect while the others are unsigned. I can turn the unsigned ones but can't turn the one with the signature upon it, "because it has too much of the spectators personality imprinted upon it." I then give the packet to the spectator who signed it and get them to twist the packet and spread it out to show that they've 'turned' the card! The reaction is really cool with the added advantage that the climax of the effect happens in their hands - always a powerful syndrome. The routine I use by the way is the classic Vernon one, still the best in my humble opinion!" Read the whole article here. Marty |
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Thanks Marty, good stuff.
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