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KJfan New user 58 Posts |
Does anyone knows where can I buy plans for the interlude? (If they are avaiable)...
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zigmont Regular user 140 Posts |
Interlude is Intellectual Property that belongs to Jim Steinmeyer. This illusion should not be made. If you want a interlude by a gaughan model.
A lot of people can operate a sewing machine. A lot of people can do it very well, with straight seams. But I don't find magicians who think they can design and sew their own costumes. When it comes down to that, they go out and buy professional costumes. Even if they're short of funds, most people end up with real clothes when they're on stage. Every hardware store sells electrical fixtures, wiring and plugs. But I've never known a magician who tries to wire his own lighting, or assemble his own sound system from the wire and circuit boards at Radio Shack. I'm sure that there's some real savings potential there. So, I've always been curious. Why are magician obsessed with building their own copies of props, and obtaining a less-than-perfect product?
Zigmont
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David Goldrake Loyal user Las Vegas 226 Posts |
Dear KJfan,
Plans for Interlude are not available. It is the creation of Jim Steinmeyer and is not in the public domain. You can buy an authorized one from John Gaughan. Please be respectful to Jim (and all other creators and inventors for that matter). These people contribute a lot to our art, and by showing them disrespect (e.g by buying ripp-offs) you/we will end up 'convincing' them to stop creating sooner or later... Best regards, D |
KJfan New user 58 Posts |
Thanks a lot for your posts.
You have been great. I didn´t know that Jim Steimeyer was the creator of the illusion. I will buy it from Jonh Gaughan perhaps. Zigmont, you said: "Why are magician obsessed with building their own copies of props, and obtaining a less-than-perfect product?" If you do not agree with a few magicians constructing their own tricks is because grand illusions require a lot of money, thousand and thousand of dollars. If I had a lot of money I would buy a lot of grand illusions at $5000 or more each. IF you say: "Iam a good magician since I do origami, interlude, zig-zag, impaled and the elevator.", I would awnser you: "No, you are not a good magician, you just have a lot of money". Sorry if Iam being a little silly, but this is what I think. And how did you know that magicians who make their own props at home are less-than-perfect? Just because Jonh Gaughan is considered the best illusion builder, that doesn´t mean that people with "good hands" won´t make a product like him, or perhaps better. Sorry if I haven´t been that clear, but honestly this is what I think. I want to see your response. Regards |
ClintonMagus Inner circle Southwestern Southeast 3997 Posts |
I agree that if you want to appear professional you should have professional-looking costumes, professional looking props, lighting, scenery, etc. However, if you have the ability to do a professional job yourself and you have the time, there is no reason you shouldn't do it. If making the item infringes on the intellectual property rights of others, however, you have a problem.
For years I have built illusions and other magic items. A few I have built for others, but I build them mostly for myself, just to see if I can. In my performing days I would use them for a while, and then sell them, give them away, or just tear them up and make something else. Recently I built a Modern Art, primarily because it looked like it would be fun to build. I bought the book (hence the rights), and set out to do metal bending and cutting, and a few other things I haven't done before. The result was a very nice illusion, probably as nice or nicer than many on the market, for a very small fraction of the price. Rather than using it however, I gave it to a friend (who also owns the book and the rights) who is a performer. I also built him a Twister illusion a few years ago, and was able to "play with" a CNC router to cut the sprocket. One advantage the professional builders have over a lot of amateurs is that they have plenty of room to build, and they have built enough of the same illusion to have worked out the kinks. A lot of these kinks can be avoided simply by purchasing a nice set of plans from a company such as Owen Magic, who has already found and fixed the problems. My advice - GO FOR IT, but choose something either in the public domain or for which you can buy the rights. Who knows, someday your professional-looking homemade props and illusions might make you enough money to allow you to buy from the best. Oh, and the book that gives nearly all the building and finishing secrets of the pros - "Professional Illusion Building for the Home Craftsman" by Dick Gustafson. Don't go into the shop without it. Best of luck to you, Amos McCormick
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KJfan New user 58 Posts |
Thanks Amos,
I agree with you completely, but one thing. You said "One advantage the professional builders have over a lot of amateurs is that they have plenty of room to build", which is not true at all. Iam remembering now Tony Klauf (from Magiarte). He has a small oficine and he was who did all of Luis de Matos illusions and still doing for professional magicians. Regards |
ClintonMagus Inner circle Southwestern Southeast 3997 Posts |
Technically, a "professional builder" is one who builds for pay and it has little to do with the size of his facility. Although I am not familiar with Tony Klauf, most of the professional illusion builders with whom I am familiar have a dedicated shop with assembly area, while my cars graciously move into the driveway while I am making sawdust in my garage.
Maybe someday. Until then, "cheers for the 'little guy'"! Amos McCormick
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markis Veteran user 379 Posts |
Perhaps another reason people want to build there own props is because a lot of the magic that can be purchased is crap.
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KJfan New user 58 Posts |
Markis, that is also a very good point, which is true indeed.
amosmc, Tony Klauf has the biggest library in Europe (at least) with more than 30.000 books of magic (hard to believe, but is true). He is a closed friend of Jonh Gaughan. Regards |
Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
Strangely enough, some of the illusions on the market is slightly below standard... An example...
Look at some of the bases on these pro illusions, they're badly "disguised" and are not really that "deceptive"... Btw, I have made my own illusions... But the top names really make great illusions I must say... So, it's really up to you...
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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M-Illusion Special user 549 Posts |
I agree about many of the bases not being that deceptive. If you're ever looking for a killer deceptive base, I would suggest Ryan Reed from Illusion Entertainment, they design some awesome stuff!
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mike_york Loyal user 228 Posts |
I will also suggest Ryan Reed!
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alexkrey Elite user RUSSIA 411 Posts |
In Russia (MOSCOW) new illusion costs 850 dollars.
How many costs at you? |
KJfan New user 58 Posts |
ONLY $850??
Are you kidding? People, Gaughan makes the interlude for how much? did you know? |
alexkrey Elite user RUSSIA 411 Posts |
I know. It is paradox.
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zigmont Regular user 140 Posts |
6500.00 for the illusions plus Steinmeyer's fee 1500.00 and cases 1000.00
Zigmont
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M-Illusion Special user 549 Posts |
Mr. Zigmont is dead-on with the price quote on Interlude. To find this illusion for $850 would only mean that it's a knock-off. (And probably not a safe on at that.)
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alexkrey Elite user RUSSIA 411 Posts |
Certainly, a copy.
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KJfan New user 58 Posts |
Thanks zigmont for the info.
It was very aprecciated. Regards |
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