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Failed Magician Inner circle Still working on the DL even after made 2100 Posts |
This is about Cosmo Solano and his fiasco Kickstarter Project for Spectrum Deck.
He sent me e-mail yesterday, a shipping confirmation. I have no idea what he shipped tho. Could be my package of the decks, or with some complimentary items, etc. Anyone has been in contact with him lately?
Magic comes through perception. -HS
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Poof-Daddy Inner circle Considering Stopping At Exactly 5313 Posts |
Yeah, I knew it was but I didn't way back when the thread started and in my mind thought somewhat badly about the wrong person. I eventually figured it out and am a proud subscriber to Reel Magic Streaming. And out of curtasy to all who didn't get their decks - still have not used mine.
just wanted to post that in case someone new or someone else was aware of the difference. 1 question I would ask as a general consensus, Many people have a bad taste in their mouths about Kickstart projects due to this and have gone as far as saying they will never participate in one again. What about someone with a much better reputation like the new Dan and Dave documentary they recently put on Kickstart?
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Failed Magician Inner circle Still working on the DL even after made 2100 Posts |
I have no problem to back someone's project, it's just I picked the wrong one I guess, or simply just a bad luck. I never expected that it would turn like this.
I might have a look at Dan and Dave's and I believe they will be decently appreciate and respect their backers.
Magic comes through perception. -HS
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Franky33 New user 53 Posts |
I bought this deck on the auction site. I never knew how it was produced and that there was an individual and investors behind it. Interesting story to read. I can't believe how he disappeared.
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DelMagic Special user 719 Posts |
I'm sure there are plenty of fine Kickstarter projects, but I've seen far too many problems with deck producers there lately. (Look up the Army Men deck to see one of the latest failures.) I'll just wait until the decks make their way to the secondary market rather than having my money tied up for 3-9 months.
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Failed Magician Inner circle Still working on the DL even after made 2100 Posts |
Yup, learn my lesson well. I wanted to help the guy, and because the pledge is affordable for me, so I joined the band wagon. All was good up until he stopped posting anything in May 2012. I'm sure there are his backers who got their decks well, but the ones that didn't wasn't a few either.
I think for next time I will just wait until it hits other stores. Just got a notice from the post office that I have a package today. Hopefully this is it, after 13 months of waiting and sending many e-mails (with no single response from either him or his online store)
Magic comes through perception. -HS
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Failed Magician Inner circle Still working on the DL even after made 2100 Posts |
So they arrived on May 17th. A little over a year than promised.
Decks are great, superb quality just like USPCC has been doing all the time. DVD is great, teaching great routines, covering the phases. The teaching is pretty straight-forward, clear and concise. I love the patter he is using for the DVD. Verdict? Great products, great routines.
Magic comes through perception. -HS
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motown Inner circle Atlanta by way of Detroit 6127 Posts |
And very poor service.
"If you ever write anything about me after I'm gone, I will come back and haunt you."
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ljsviol Veteran user 345 Posts |
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On 2013-05-30 21:37, Failed Magician wrote: Would it be possible for you to list the DVD contents? I was one of the Kickstarter project subscribers and long ago Cosmo put up a set of videos online instead of making a DVD - I was wondering if it was the same content, or different. Thanks for any help with this, Larry S. |
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cardhawk134 New user 21 Posts |
Wow. This is a pretty crazy story to read. I'm a little weary to buy one from his website, as I don't want to receive it next year.
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Failed Magician Inner circle Still working on the DL even after made 2100 Posts |
Well, not sure about the website. It might be handled by someone else.
I also saw that he tried to start a project in KickStarter, it's a board game. Kinda cool tho but it didn't go well. There were two attempts and I remember the second one was canceled by himself.
Magic comes through perception. -HS
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DelMagic Special user 719 Posts |
From an exchange at unitedcardists. Anyone still needing their decks should try to contact Cosmo again.
Customer - "Cosmo got a bit of a black eye, PR-wise, because fulfillment of his KS campaign didn't go particularly well. It had nothing to do with the design of the Bike Spectrum deck, nor the features it included. I think he's doing here what could only be the best possible thing to start rehabilitating his image to the public; produce first, release through distributors. I liked the quality of his work on the (Bike) Spectrum deck, and I'll definitely be picking up a couple of these. The fact that I can buy them from my favorite, trusted sites is so much the better. Full disclosure: I *did* receive my Spectrum KS rewards eventually, including the DVD, et al, and was nowhere near as burned as some other backers. That said, my preference for the next little while, if I'm going to buy Cosmo's stuff, is to buy them through a reputable reseller. The same would hold true for Russell, Adam, et al. Actually, Adam still owes me some money, so I might not be so quick to buy his stuff. But, you get the point." Cosmo's Reply: I just want to thank you for adding the "full disclosure". The issues I had with the Spectrum Deck got out of control and I made lots of mistakes. I think I can apologize for the rest of time and it won't help a whole bunch, I'm glad that I was able to get you your stuff, and hope that if there's anyone else out there I owe anything they'll contact me. I've posted my email in many places since the kickstarter mess and few have contacted me, but still keep beating on that same "black eye". cosmosolano@gmail.com People I've come through for have not spoken up that they finally were taken care of (albeit late), with the exception of you and a few others. I refunded many and STILL sent out product, and not one said anything publicly. I'm not a bad guy, but I did screw up about 20-25 orders out of almost 500. I released tally ho through Murphy's not quite for reasons you state although they were a factor . Mostly it was a last minute deal we made as I was going to press, they really wanted to do it and I took their offer. If your reading this and you know someone affected, tell them. Please let this be yet ANOTHER plea to reach out to anyone who feels I owe them something from the kickstarter project. All the best and again, thank you for making an honest and civil statement regarding our dealings. My apologies to you especially. Coz" |
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Robert M Inner circle 2482 Posts |
Still waiting for the DVD.
Robert |
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Cosmo Solano Elite user Colorado 410 Posts |
A friend steered me to this... I don't check the Café almost ever, I've asked people to NOT PM me here, on MANY threads and I've posted my email... even when I reply to a PM here, I say, please continue this via email and they don't. I don't know why. I have personal reasons for staying off this site now. (nothing to do with my mistakes etc., it's personal in an unrelated way) PLEASE contact me at cosmosolano@gmail.com. Robert, I still have some of the DVD's I'll also PM you the site with login instructions. I'd like to toss in an extra deck, (Tally Ho's if you want or Bikes) in case you still want to check out the routines in the mean time. I have absolutely no records of who got what etc at this point. We know that about 96-97% of the backers got everything in good time, but unfortunately things went haywire before we were finished shipping everything. I know that sounds crazy but it's the case. I've put my email all over the Café asking anyone to please contact me. I've tried to get anyone and everyone my email (it's in the above post as well) One more apology to anyone and everyone. I'm on Facebook, cosmo solano... if you want to PM me there, you have to friend me first, someone sent a PM on there, and it didn't go through, so of course they started spreading the word that I wouldn't answer them. Please, don't just take my email, if you hear of ANYONE who feels I owe them pass it on.
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