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twistedace Inner circle philadelphia 3772 Posts |
Can anyone tell me how this compares to Supalok?
http://www.tannens.com/shop//cart.php?m=......l&p=6455 "Correct Key The Performer gives a spectator a "Master" Padlock and seven keys, none of which will open the lock, The spectator proves this to himself. The magician then gives him an eighth key, with which he opens the lock. The lock is then closed and all the keys are mixed together and then sealed inside individual envelopes. The performer never touches and does not even need to see the keys, the lock or the envelopes. Yet, by some strange power, he correctly chooses the envelope containing the one key that opens the lock! Awesome on stage! Totally baffling close up. Ted Annemann gave us ?7 Keys to Baldpate,? David DeVal gave us ?7th Key? and now ?Correct Key.? The performer shows a padlock and passes out seven keys to seven spectators. Each tries his or her key in the lock. The keys turn but do not open the lock. The spectators are each given a small coin envelope and instructed to seal their key in it. An eighth key is brought out. The lock can be opened only with this one key. It is also sealed into an envelope. The envelopes are held and shuffled by a spectator. Another spectator locks the lock and someone picks an envelope. The key is removed and a spectator now opens the lock with the chosen key. Comes with several variations on the routine. Quality Master lock and keys. Can be classified as mentalism or straight magic as well as a prediction. Can be preformed by telephone. Each Trick comes with Lock, 8 Keys, and instructions" |
Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Originally, Key-R-Rect was the trick, but it was off the market for some years. Stevens Magic said they decided to have it re-made and callet it Correct Key. It is a gimmicked lock made with the Maser Lock brand name. You can do any of the 7 key routines with this model, it even makes it easier then most methods in print. True with some routining you can perform 7 Keys with an ordinary lock, but by the time you buy all the locks for the matching keys, you have a standard lock and paid half the price of Correct Key.
If you have or was referring ot Supra Lok by the defunct company Repro Magic, London, England, then the comparison is that the Supra is brass and a smaller lock. I can't remember the working, but I thought it was genius. If you have Supra Lok, then just use it, as if I remember correctly, it is unique. http://nitelitemagic.com/ Manufacturer of Correct Key. I have/own an original Key-R-Rect it comes with 2 routines and one is by the later Don Alan using a mans belt loop on his pants. If you are looking for a good routine, get Peter Scarlett's lecture notes with his routne for 7 keys. It is genius as well. The plot is a borrowed watch in dropped into a hole in the top of locked box. It is an expansion or redesign of a Roy Johnson routine published in his book "Second Time Around" called "The Ultimate Key" on page 61. |
twistedace Inner circle philadelphia 3772 Posts |
I want the lock to be completely hands off. Supalok is, but I'm having a hard time getting one. Is Correct Key completely hands off? The spectator can handle everything?
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twistedace Inner circle philadelphia 3772 Posts |
It sounds ver close to Supalock so I ordered it.
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randirain Inner circle Fort Worth, TX 1650 Posts |
I have a Correct Key.
I guess you could do it hands off. Basically... you have to show that six of the keys don't open the lock. You have them test each key. Then you show them that only one key will open it. They can open it. Then it must be locked back, and they can do that. At this point the gimmick is set. All of that can be done hands off. The only thing that can't be, is the beginning of the trick. You have to set everything up with to start the process I described. But once that is done. It is hands off. Now can anyone tell? If there was a lock expert, yes they would know. It's the old style Master Lock that uses the old type of keys. So anyone familiar with these types of locks will think something is strange. But since no one sees these types of locks any more, running into a lock expert is going to be rare. You take an average person, they will unlock and relock the lock without expecting anything. I could have sold you mine. I never use it. Randi |
Robert M Inner circle 2482 Posts |
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twistedace Inner circle philadelphia 3772 Posts |
I emailed him about Supalok last week and still haven't heard anything from him.
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I don't quite understand what you mean by "hands off", if you mean you never touch the lock, not really. At some point most have to be set by the magician, that is what the examination by the spectator period is for.
I think the only one that you can do that with is the India lock, that works by which side is up when trying to open it, but you would have to make sure it was handled with the proper side up, depending on the out come you desire, open or not able to open. Sounds more like you are looking for the totally none gimmicked version. Check out the book I referenced above. Roy Johnson uses an ordinary lock in his presentation. You only have to control the keys and use a real lock. |
equivoque Special user 861 Posts |
I have K-R-Rect and I love it. I do a completely hands off routine and people really seem to like it. If correct key is the same, I reccomed it.
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twistedace Inner circle philadelphia 3772 Posts |
I just received Correct Key and it works like a dream. The lock can be set ahead of time for the routine I want to do and the effect can be done completely hands off. This is a PERFECT alternative to Supalok at about half the price.
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Jim Grathoff New user 20 Posts |
I make Correct key at http://nitelitemagic.com... if you have any questions about it please email me...
jim@nitelitemagic.com both wholesale and retail. this lock is called a warded lock which means that it is not high security. also known as a hose house lock it is still sold in hardware stores and is not considered a old style lock by any means.. Carl Wolf was the originator of key r ect.. and they said the secret died with him but I was asked by Steve Hart to make the lock and sell to Stevens Magic which I did for 5 years then I sold to others like Denny and Lee and Tannens Magic . I'm a Locksmith of 41 years and Magician longer.. I hope this helps.. |
aligator Inner circle Canada 2044 Posts |
Correct key works like a charm and you can do a great psychological routine with it. Yes, it can be hands off during performance.
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12945 Posts |
Correct key looks like the same effect as supalock.
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MrBadGuy New user 99 Posts |
I just received Correct Key and I noticed an issue with it and I'm not sure if it's just mine or it's how they all are. When the lock is "set" all the the B keys should not open it but rather turn and turn. However, I noticed that if you put a B key half way into the lock and turn it, and THEN put it all they way into the lock and turn it, it will open. This is the case with all the B keys. This happened to me in performance the other night and I had to adjust my presentation in the moment. Very annoying. I've contacted the store I purchased from and the manufacturer to see what's up. If this is how all the locks are then I suppose I'll have to do some better audience management to ensure they insert the B keys all the way into the lock before turning. On the other hand, if this fault is not normal and only specific to my lock, then I'll want a replacement. I'll update when I hear back.
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rowdymagi5 Inner circle Virginia 3616 Posts |
Interested to if this is considered normal for "Correct Key".
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Cartelli Regular user 104 Posts |
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On Mar 10, 2019, MrBadGuy wrote: With the old key-r-rect you can not open with the B keys as you can not put them further into the lock. But you can upset the lock with the B key as well as with the A key. |
aligator Inner circle Canada 2044 Posts |
I have never had a problem with correct key but I have also never had anyone try to open it this way. I do the initial lock openings with the lock in the hands of a spec and when all fail, introduce the one that will open it and do so. After the mix, and in whatever way it is being presented, the spec comes up with the key and opens the lock without any problem. This is product with several possible presentations and one that I would recommend.
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MrBadGuy New user 99 Posts |
I like being as hands-off with this as I can and that's why I like the presentation of having the spectator try the keys themselves. But, like you said, there are endless presentations possible with Correct Key. That said, I contacted Jim Grathoff, and he said my lock is fine and that it is the keys I have that are the issue. So he is sending me a new set of keys. Once I receive them, I will report back.
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aligator Inner circle Canada 2044 Posts |
Hope it works out. Correct Key has been good to me.
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