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Bradley Morgan Special user 702 Posts |
Dear Mr. Jim Sisti
First I want to thank you for giving all of us your time to answer our questions, it is much appreciated . I was wondering what you think of doing the torn and restored news paper trick for table hopping? Have you ever done this trick for people? Is it a good idea or not? Thank You
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Jim Sisti V.I.P. Connecticut 457 Posts |
I did an off-Broadway show with Richard Robinson in NYC in 1994 and featured the Torn and Restored Newspaper. However, I've never done it as a walk-around effect.
The restaurant I'm currently working for has a giveaway menu that looks like a broadsheet newspaper and I think Joel Bauer's version (the "Trade Show Torn and Restored Newspaper" I believe it's called; it's a variation of the Al Baker tear - the video is marketed by Brad Burt) would possibly work at close range. Good thinking there! I think you may have given me an idea... Thanks, Bradley! |
MattSedlak Regular user 162 Posts |
Speaking of torn and restored in general, what about performing the T & R Card, specifically effects like Reformation and Pristine?
They both play very strong but are very subject to angles. While Pristine is a little less angly it still has some problems, and not to mention the fact that it uses two duplicates. My question is, have you ever experimented with any piece by piece restorations in a restaurant environment, and if so, what did you do to make them work? |
Magique Hands Loyal user Lincoln, NE. 247 Posts |
Joe Bauer's 'Trade Show Torn & Restored Newspaper' is an excellent T&R effect, that will work great for table hopping. The beauty of his gaff, is that it resets in less than 3 seconds. The gaff can be used for numerous performances.
It plays very well in close-up surroundings. I highly recommend it. - - Troy
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Jim Sisti V.I.P. Connecticut 457 Posts |
Regarding the piece-by-piece card restoration plot popularized in the last several years, I think that just about all of them, due to their severe angle problems, are unsuitable for restaurant work.
J.C. Wagner's version of the Torn and Restored Card is a great solution, however. It's an audience-tested piece from a working professional rather than the invention of someone who just hangs around with other move-meisters on a Saturday afternoon as they try to fool each other. Magic designed specifically to impress other magicians, in my opinion, almost always results in bad magic. "The Commercial Magic of J.C. Wagner" and "7 Secrets," each containing a version of his Torn and Restored Card, should be required reading for anyone wishing to work for real people. That said, I'm very interested in the new piece-by-piece restoration effect by Yves Doumergue, "Ripped and Restored," being marketed by Meir Yedid. A video demo is posted at Richard Robinson's Magic Theater. Check it out - it looks great! (http://http://magictheater.com) |
MattSedlak Regular user 162 Posts |
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On 2002-05-15 00:05, Jim Sisti wrote: I don't understand what you mean. Both Reformation and Pristine were developed by people who performed for laymen. While I do not know how much Hollingworth performs for laymen Reformation certainly did well on WGM. As far as Pristine, Dr. Wesley James made a living at one time performing at not only trade shows and other corporate events but also restaurants as well. While I understand what you mean in saying that both may not be suitable to the restaurant environment, I do not understand how you can say they are not audience tested, or even from someone who is not a working professional. |
Jim Sisti V.I.P. Connecticut 457 Posts |
My main point is that, while both gentlemen in question may have worked in commercial situations, I have no evidence that either have performed the effects in question (their respective piece-by-piece card restorations) in restaurant situations, which is the topic at hand. That's all.
J.C. Wagner developed his version precisely for his working environment rather than develop a trick and then look for a place suitable to perform it. There's a difference there, in my opinion. Your mileage may vary... |
Garrett Nelson Special user 644 Posts |
I use Ripped and Restored in many settings. It isn't angle-proof, but it is closer. The only move in question can be blocked fairly easily by altering finger positioning.
I don't want to sound like an ad, but it doesn't use a dupe or fake sig, which also adds to its alure in walk-around magic. Just FYI for anyone intersted in the effect as it was brought up... |
preston91 Regular user clearwater,fl 186 Posts |
Does anyone use Martin Lewis' "Undivided" torn and restored effect, while table hopping? I haven't had the opportunity but it seems like it would be nice...
Paul |
Jim Sisti V.I.P. Connecticut 457 Posts |
Anything by Martin Lewis is worth consideration.
I haven't tried his "Undivided" but I did use John Bannon's "Shriek of the Mutilated" for quite some time when I worked for a restaurant that always kept candles on the tables. It's a very showy and dramatic piece. |
cataquet Veteran user England 363 Posts |
Jim, I'm 100% with you in "Shriek of the Mutilated". I just make one ball for the start of the evening. After every performance, I just crumple up the examinable cig paper and use that as my switch ball for the next performance. It is a really flashy restoration, and I think one of the best.
Bye for now Harold
Harold Cataquet
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Joe M. Turner Loyal user Atlanta, Georgia 248 Posts |
Isn't that no-tear approach to the newspaper restoration something that Bill Goldman came up with?
JMT |
Jim Sisti V.I.P. Connecticut 457 Posts |
Hi Joe...Bill Goldman did come up with the no-tear approach, but we weren't talking about that. Joel Bauer's effect, based on the Al Baker newspaper tear, starts with an intact paper, is torn and then restored, exactly along the classic plot lines.
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Joe M. Turner Loyal user Atlanta, Georgia 248 Posts |
Ah. I get the various methods/approaches confused sometimes. I do Gene Anderson's and that's about it.
JMT |
Kaliix Inner circle Connecticut 1984 Posts |
Speaking of torn and restored effects, I wonder how Brent Braun's Torched and Restored (http://www.braunmagic.com.futuresite.register.com/_wsn/page2.html) would play in a restaurant setting? It is a flash restoration of the whole card at once that would seem to eliminate alot of the problems associated with torn and restored effects in a restaurant setting.
Also, could someone give a reference for John Bannon's "Shriek of the Mutilated." Is this similar to undivided in that it is a torn and restored cig paper effect?
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Joe M. Turner Loyal user Atlanta, Georgia 248 Posts |
Brent Braun's "Torched and Restored" is a wonderful method that I have used standing in the bar area but not at a table. I don't immediately see why one couldn't, though.
One thing I would be extremely wary of, however, is burning the card at a table. In addition to the inescapable risks of using open flames, the smell of burnt playing card is unappetizing -- at least to my nose. There is another suggested method in the instructions that come with the routine. |
Jim Sisti V.I.P. Connecticut 457 Posts |
"Shreik of the Mutilated" is found in John Bannon's "Impossibilia" from L & L Publishing and is also taught on the Bannon's video of the same name from A-1 Multi-Media (or whatever they're calling themselves this week...)
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