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Rindfleisch Special user New Jersey 502 Posts |
Hello Magic brothers and sisters in christ. Although this is not magic related I wanted to let our community know about what I am up to. God has put on my heart to start a new ministry for the purpose of a Great Revival. It will start here on the internet and through Gods blessing and the move of the holy spirit, it will become a great movement that will bring many to christ.
Please check out http://www.cyberrevival.org Help support this endevor by telling others you know about it and ask your church leadership to stand with us. Thanks, Joe Rindfleisch
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derrenshowman New user 52 Posts |
Wow.. do you believe in the gift of tongues and gift of prophecy
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Rindfleisch Special user New Jersey 502 Posts |
This ministry is focused on including as many evangelicals as possible.
He is our statement of faith. http://www.cyberrevival.org/statement-of-faith/ -Joe
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derrenshowman New user 52 Posts |
Is slain in spirit an example of suggestion or is it holy spirit doing it.. ?
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Vlad_77 Inner circle The Netherlands 5829 Posts |
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On 2012-10-25 18:11, derrenshowman wrote: I am not an Evangelical but I can comment here anyway as it is appropriate as I [am] a Christian. We are given many gifts, although the evangelical movement seems to focus more on glossolalia and prophecy more than the others. That said, of course Christians believe in these things as they are gifts from God. I guess I am a little confused by your "Wow" as it could be construed as enthusiasm for Mr. Rindfleisch's event or incredulousness on your part. I need to qualify the speaking in tongues part: Chriatian theology had held for millenia that merely the manifestation of speaking on tongues is in itself not evidence of God's gift. Speaking in tongues has occurred as well in exorcisms performed in the Orthodox and Roman Catholic churches. It's important to bear this in mind. In the Orthodox Church at least, while we believe in glossolalia, it is not given privilege over the gifts. Also: The Holy Spirit is sovereign in the distribution of these gifts. Following the listing of the gifts, Paul adds, “But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as He will” (1 Corinthians 12:11). No one person has all the gifts, nor are we to seek the gifts. We must be careful that we do not confuse the Spirit as a gift to the believer with the gifts the Spirit gives to believers. Every believer has received the gift of the Spirit, but not every believer has received the gifts which the Spirit bestows. Speaking in tongues was a gift bestowed by the Holy Spirit, but it, or any other gift, can be misused. Speaking in tongues was no mark of spirituality, because the Corinthian church was unspiritual, having manifested carnality (3:1-3) and even gross sin (5:1). And so Paul points them to a Scripture they should have known, saying, “In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord” (12:21). While the Orthodox Church does not deny this gift in any way, it does acknowledge that this gift is rarely given, spontaneous, and only evident in cases of need. On the day of Pentecost, as we read in the Acts of the Apostles, the apostles proclaimed the Good News to all who would listen. Acts notes that there were many people from many lands in Jerusalem at the time, celebrating the Jewish feast of Pentecost. Many languages were spoken. Acts continues by stating that every one in the crowd heard and understood the apostles as if they were speaking in their own tongues. This gives rise to speculation: does speaking in tongues mean that someone is speaking in a language he or she does not know, or does it imply that he or she is speaking in his or her own language but that the Holy Spirit miraculously enables his or her listeners to understand, even if his or her listeners do not know the speaker’s language? It follows that on the day of Pentecost there was a clear need for this manifestation: everyone was from a different land and spoke a different language. However, everyone understood. This clearly implies that speaking in tongues is not meaningless babbling, but readily understood speech and language. Indeed, we believe in miracles—the real miracle, however, is discoverning God’s presence in our lives; discerning His voice, small and still as it may be, as the Prophet Elijah did—and keeping still and silent so we can hear His voice and discern His will for our lives; accepting His call and invitation to live in this world while not being of this world; etc. Healings do occur, but as Christ Himself states in every case, healings are not only signs of God’s power and love but also signs of tremendous faith on the part of the one healed—“Your faith has made you whole.” Finally, one of the greatest miracles that can occur today, in this age of personal issues, lack of self esteem, and the ongoing search to discover “who am I,” is the recognition of ourselves and our very lives as miracles. As Saint John of Kronstadt, the late-19th century Orthodox saint, once wrote, “Lord, I am a miracle of Thy love. ...” With regard to what we might call phenomenal miracles—weeping icons, faces of Jesus appearing on walls, and the like—Saint John Chrysostom offers good advice: they may be a revelation from God, or they may be a deception from Satan. If we are living according to the teachings and example of Christ, however, we should not make much of them. +In Christ, Vlad PS: Some of the foregoing quotes are based upon Orthodox teachings. My intent here was not to proseletyze - for indeed we do not engage in proseletyzing. However, they serve to amplify other quotes from a Protestant source. In this case, both East and West agree. The important lesson is the quote from St. John of Kronstadt as to who we are regardless of glossolalia or the other equally important gifts. We are all miracles of God's unwavering Love. |
Rindfleisch Special user New Jersey 502 Posts |
The term “evangelical” comes from the Greek word euangelion, meaning “the good news” or the “gospel.” Thus, the evangelical faith focuses on the “good news” of salvation brought to sinners by Jesus Christ.
the statement of faith does not cover gifts of the Holy Spirit this is left up to the individual and the denomination they belong to the idea here is not to get caught up on doctrine but to create an event where we can gather as many "Christians" together to celebrate our walk with the lord and share the good news of Jesus Christ. The statement of faith covers the core beliefs for protestant evangelicals which most would agree upon, although there our differences these are not salvation breaking doctrines. The hope is that Baptist,Pentecostal, Lutheran and Presbyterian ..... can come together for a common purpose. JESUS! I would like to keep the topic of this thread on the event so if you have questions on Gifts of the holy spirit or what I believe in, you can open another thread or talk to me privately, I have already sent you a PM. -Joe
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