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Eddy Special user Manchester 582 Posts |
I bought the book try the impossible a while back, but I have only just picked it up and had a proper look at it. I have none of his other nooks and so the memorized deck was new to me. I have just recently challenged myself to learn it. I can go from 1 - 52 saying out loud a,, the cards, but I have a problem when I have a random card, and then trying to say which number it lies at. Likewise if I have a number I have difficulty saying which card id at that numbr. How did you guys get round this(for those of you who just learnt it parrot fashion with no mnemonics involved)?Love to hear your tips.
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Larry Davidson Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts |
In Martin Joyal's book, "The Six Hour Memorized Deck," he recommends making flash cards out of the playing cards themselves.
With a big black magic marker, write the position of each card from 1 to 52 on its back and then shuffle one half of the deck face up into the other half face down. Go through the deck one card at a time, and each time that you come to a face up card, try to recall its position and then turn the card over to see if you're right (again, the position is recorded on the back of the card in magic marker). Each time that you come to a face down card and see the position of that card recorded on its back in magic marker try to recall the card itself and then turn it over to see if you're right. After you've done this a few times, flip the entire deck over and now you'll be practicing the reverse, i.e., you'll now be converting from position to card those cards that you previously practiced converting from card to position and vice versa. Larry D. P.S. - The Joyal stack is great and the one I personally use. |
pxs Loyal user London 284 Posts |
Try the excellent Stackview (free for download at http://www.stackview.com) which will definitely help you learn. I believe that it was the creation of a Café member (thanks!)
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david_a_whitehead Inner circle USA 2122 Posts |
It will come in time eddy....it took me about 3 weeks of constantly reciting before I got it
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Scott Cram Inner circle 2678 Posts |
Dennis Loomis, in the most recent issue of Smoke and Mirrors, wrote a wonderful article on what it really takes to consider a deck truly memorized. Try PMing him (I think his screenname is simply "Dennis Loomis"), and seeing if you can get a copy of it.
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RevJohn Inner circle Oregon City Oregon, Oregon 2473 Posts |
Stackview is great, and on Aronson's web-site he has a program that you can use online to test yourself with his stack.
I have used the flash card method myself with good success. John |
Dennis Loomis 1943 - 2013 2113 Posts |
Thanks for the plug, Scott, my friend.
I'd be happy to forward my article in Smoke and Mirrors to any Café member that wants to read it. My email address is deloomis@mindspring.com I also am very interested in hearing from memorized deck users. If you have anything to share, I'd be happy to use it in my monthly Smoke and Mirrors column. I'm also interested in organizing a gathering of folks that work with a memorized deck. Anyone interested contact me. Maybe in Vegas, since I know that at least Scott would be there. Any maybe we could get Mike Close to pop in. Dennis Loomis http://www.loomismagic.com
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Magicmike1949 Special user 643 Posts |
Aronson's website has an excellent random generator for testing yourself.
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Nick Pudar Veteran user 369 Posts |
Pxs, thanks for mentioning Stackview.
A comment about StackView's Test mode: I took to heart Dennis Loomis' recent article about fully testing your knowledge of your stack -- and I incorporated those additional aspects. In particular, you can now test what the "next" or "previous" card is to the one being tested (you can test for stack index value or card value). It will most definitely hone your crispness with your stack. Thanks Dennis for the great article. Nick
Let me explain. No, there is too much. Let me sum up.
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Dennis Loomis 1943 - 2013 2113 Posts |
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TJ Newton New user Oregon Coast 60 Posts |
Can anyone tell me the link for Aronson?
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Scott Cram Inner circle 2678 Posts |
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TJ Newton New user Oregon Coast 60 Posts |
Thanks Scott!
I'm learning the Aronson stack and could use a few pointers from those of you who have it down. I have the stack memorized if I go straight through the deck from the JS to the 9D. What I CAN'T do yet is to see a random card and know what placement it is in the stack, OR seeing a card and knowing what is before or after it in the stack without going through it in my head from the beginning. What route should I go now for memorizing? I just read the first post in this thread and realized that I repeated the question. |
Close.Up.Dave Inner circle Behind you! 2956 Posts |
I just realized something about Simon Aronson's quiz program. It can also be used to practice estimation (cutting to any named card type effects). It gives a random card and you practice cutting to it. Joshua Jay talks of these type of effects on the page where he's a special guest.
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