Item can be examined is no reason to buy it, for me at least. I don't see any advantage of Wayne's box to the already existing boxes. What I like of Penn's box is, that you can show the box empty and load it in front of spectators eyes. That gives some very interesting possibilities.

That's a bit harsh Jamie!

Out of context yes.

However as part of the flow of conversation on page one of this thread it is not harsh.

You're obviously trying to do wonder words or something.

Waiting for a reviewcomparison between the 2 versions.

I don't see how the "vs" would help, especially of the methods are different.

- Feras

Just my opinion. I have always loved card to box. When clarity box came out, I immediatky purchased it. I love it and use it during all my parlor shows. When I saw david penn's mystery solved I was amazed! I never really thought of the sticker on clarity box a issue or hinderance, especially in a prediction situation which is what I use it for. The thing that appealed to me for mystery solved is its compact and good for close up, and the fact you can "place" the prediction in the box during the presentation, and the added part with Peter turner is an amazing bonus! Honestly their is nothing I like about 3sixty. Simply because of the requirement of the bag. It's pretty much limiting you to a table.
And as far as handing it out, it's honestly not necessary. Why??? Because it's a clear box!!! They can see it's empty. They will not expect that it's a gimmick. The justification of a prediction being isolated in full view in a box is good enough. When you take out s deck of cards do you hand the box out to be examined?? Do people ask to examine it? No! In my opinion anyone who wants to hand out props when it's not necessary or is worried about it must not have much experience working professionally. Not saying anything bad about 3sixty, it's just not for me. I think mystery solved is best.

I know how all the versions work, but my feelings it the concept it changed so much, because unlike the 'Mystery box' there was mystery the audience doesn't know how the card gets in the box, but in these clear versions there just is no way it could be the same, which most people will likely say "I didn't see the switch"; I used the clarity box for a bit, (used the dollar version) same weird feeling. I could see the use of a prediction, but card in the box is a completely different effect. Just my two cents...

I think what some magicians overlook at times is "why am I getting them to sign said item and what does it achieve?". In the context of a clear box; getting a card signed completely changes tthe way the trick is perceived and as many hae said; changes the question to "how did he switch the card".

I still don't really know why you'd use a box like this for the location of a signed card, unless you showed it empty first and then covered it with something. In my opinion the clear box lends itself perfectly to holding a prediction for soemthing like a confabulation routine or if you want to go down the card route; a card prediction.

Have to agree more of a puzzle than a magic trick !

I didn't care for Mr. Dobson's 3Sixty ( I do respect the thought behind it ). So for me it's Mystery Solved. 3Sixty seems like the trick you create before refining it, having a breakthrough and coming up with Mystery Solved.

I use Mystery Solved mostly for mental effects. When I've used it for card magic, I have the card in the box have a different color back then the deck in play.

I wouldn't cover it with a silk or cloth. The beauty of Mystery Solved is that it is just a clear box to isolate the card. The retention of vision when dumping the card out, has the box looking just what it should be: a clear, empty box. A box that someone was just holding.

It also looks like a natural prop. Go to one of the big craft stores and you'll see a variety of clear boxes, different sizes, used to hold bead supplies and the like.

Mystery solved is much better than 3sixty... the only thing I don't like with the mystery solved is the size of the box and the folded card inside. I think it is a little bigger than it is supposed to be.

By the way who released first? mystery solved or 3sixty? just curious.

Paul...in your answer about signing the card.. in my presentation is to find it by touch...behind my back. That is the reason for signing. The use of the box has been used a couple different ways in my presentations...firstly for years I would announced it as Plan b if anything went wrong...of course it would and I would find the wrong card..sorta a suckered trick for table hopping... But in a full show I would 2 use it as back in time effect... I won't explain my routine..it's just to good to text in a forum. But be assured it's far from a simply card location.

The clear box is just way impossible they know you have to switch it. I would perform it with a gypsy switch and explain that gypsy would already have your money...empty the box

If you are still on the fence as to which one to get... I strongly suggest you hold on to your money and wait!!!

William Draven will be reviewing several clear boxes next month. Trust me when I say... just wait.

Do I sense a new box coming out 😃

I notice that Wayne's website claims he's sold out of 3Sixty. That's a lot of boxes - a lot of interest in this genre.
New box coming out? Well, look at:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=159