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J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
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On Jul 10, 2016, videoman wrote: The sturdiest I own is the "Shell-Shocked" ones from Mark Mason. Those are deep shells that give full coverage of the depth of the coin. However the penalty for that is the fact that the shell is extremely visible when in a stack of coins. It's diameter is so much more than a regular coin that it sticks out like a sore thumb if you stack it with other coins. I always make sure to use it away from other coins. Jim |
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
Hi Jim,
I have one of Mark's Shell-Shocked in Morgan. It may be the sturdiest shell I own but I really have no way of knowing short of dropping it to see. Maybe it could survive 2 drops rather than one but I'm not sure I would consider it sturdier than others I own. I certainly wouldn't want to drop it because I doubt it would survive even one hard one although like you said, it does have a wee bit more wiggle room to allow for a ding. I guess my point is that no manufacturer's shells are all EXACTLY the same, not Johnson's or Tango's, Lassen's or Schoolcraft's or anyone else's. So if size is what countrymaven is equating to sturdiness then there aren't any that I know of that are consistently extra large. Not sure all deep dish ones are either, but then again maybe there is a cheap source of shells out there somewhere I'm not aware of. Maybe that is what countrymaven is referring to. But still in all, I'll take my fragile but very thin Lassen's over a sturdier one any day. |
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J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
The only one I can think of that's unlikely to break (because I hate it!) is a plastic shell that came with Troy Hooser's Shellraiser DVD. Nate Kranzo also sells them. It shows a Kennedy tails side and you can see it from the back/inside of the shell too.
I only use that one to tape to a jacket or shirt lapel, ala Slydini and Roth. Jim |
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countrymaven Inner circle 1426 Posts |
But please, go ahead and post once more so you'll have the last word. Smile
Thanks! Jim _______ No, Jim, I appreciate you all's advice. I want you all to have the last word. You all probably have more experience than me, so I will accept what you say. Just like turtles, we each have our shells. Mine are made to protect the investment, but are not supposed to be abused either. To be paper thin and invisible (from a few inches), or not to be noticeable by spectators in general handling, that is the question (to me). |
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Kyoki_Sanitys_Eclipse Inner circle 1513 Posts |
I have dropped my shells and it only took one time for it to become to damaged to be used. It was a pretty easy fix but still
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mh1001 Special user 602 Posts |
That's a really good question, but there is no good answer to it, I think. When you perform with gaffed coins outside, accidents always happen, and you may drop some expensive coins no matter how good you are at coin magic (this is something some people here don't understand, apparently).
But here's a tip. Several times, I dropped gaffed coins on the hard floor (e.g., one split coin now has a very visible gap due to damages), such as my slippery shell or my split coins. Now, I found a way to minimize the damages when it drops. If one coin slipped from my hands (especially when I'm standing up), I immediately stretch my leg (or rather, the foot) in order to "touch" the coin. This way, when it hits the ground, there is less worry about it. But I take care not to shoot the coin, of course. Like I've said, it's not a solution to your problem, since there is no solution. But that's the best way I could find to minimize damages when coins are going to hit the ground and you know it's too late to avoid that. |
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countrymaven Inner circle 1426 Posts |
Thanks mh1001, great tip. I guess some of us have been lucky and have had little damage, but you are right,
you never know when you are going to do some damage to a gaffed coin. Great point. |
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CarpetShark Special user 576 Posts |
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On Jun 30, 2016, Dollarbill wrote: Sure, no problem ! I'll check out the low angles for ya... |
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CarpetShark Special user 576 Posts |
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On Jul 10, 2016, mh1001 wrote: You are describing what I used to do on ice, stopping pucks using any appendage stupid enough to get in the way! I still occasionally find myself catching cups before the hit the floor, and doing the foot thing as you described. One word of advice: do not try to stop that new hunting knife or plugged in power-saw, as neither of these are finger nor foot friendly. |
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Kyoki_Sanitys_Eclipse Inner circle 1513 Posts |
Or concrete block
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mh1001 Special user 602 Posts |
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On Jul 13, 2016, CarpetShark wrote: Wonderful. Do you have any useful thing to say ? Constructive comment ? Judging by your above comment, I guess it's a no. |
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tonsofquestions Inner circle 1802 Posts |
Actually, that is pretty useful advice.
Being in the habit of sticking out your foot whenever you drop something *can* be useful, but could also lead to serious injury depending on what it is that you drop. I think his point (as I read it) is "be conscious of the habits you choose to form, and when they might backfire." Or at least be prepared to stifle the instinct if you're working with something sharp, heavy. |
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mh1001 Special user 602 Posts |
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On Jul 17, 2016, tonsofquestions wrote: Ok, I understand. But in my opinion, his comment reads as a very hostile comment. I sometimes drop cards (although it's usually during practice), but never used my foot. Because I don't care. But when I use gaffed coins that cost me +50 dollars, I'm always prepared to get them damaged. So, I am already in alert, and prepare my foot to get ready when the moment comes. I obviously won't do that with a knife. |
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Kyoki_Sanitys_Eclipse Inner circle 1513 Posts |
It's okay as long as you don't catch the bint or sharp side. All joking aside don't do it I don't want to be responsible
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countrymaven Inner circle 1426 Posts |
You have to be pretty "talented" to drop shells repeatedly.
Better switch to a split coin. It is much less suspicious and the handling is much freer than any shell. |
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