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MatthewSims Special user 778 Posts |
Hi guys.
I've been a long time mentalist and have recently taken a strong interest in readings. I've never really been into Tarot (at least not from the traditional perspective) but have been looking at it lately from a perspective similar to Enrique Enriqez. I'm a really big fan of metaphorical work, so that's kind of the direction I'm looking to go with these readings. I'm not really interested in the traditional meanings of the cards, but rather the story the pictures might be saying on the cards (if that makes sense). My question is...is there a deck of cards or tools that would work well for this? I have Stephen Youngs Pho Psy Pro deck and love it. It's perfect for readings with metaphors. For example, a picture of a cell phone may represent "communication", while a picture of a women's closest with shoes represents "choices". The problem is, it's a little too modern for me at the moment. I'm looking for something more along the lines of Outlaw's Hobb Deck, or maybe one of their tarot decks. I was thinking maybe the Umbrella in the Hobb's Deck might represent "shelter" for example. Can anyone help direct me towards some nice tools or material that would work well for what I'm trying to achieve? Also, does anyone know of any material that teaches or touches on readings from a metaphorical perspective? All the best, Matthew |
mindmagic Inner circle London 1740 Posts |
Have you tried Psycards?
Barry |
gypsyfish Veteran user 383 Posts |
I agree that PsyCards are a great alternative to Tarot. They really speak to me.
Scott Grossberg has his Deck of Shadows Oracle cards and it's very nice, too. http://www.thinkingmagically.com/deck_of_shadows |
Pasteboard Alchemist Special user 502 Posts |
Chris Gould has done a lot of writing on readings from a metaphorical perspective that have went along with his items, as well as created a number of great alternative reading systems (KADAR, Hedge Tarote, etc...) He mentioned in a post recently that he's doing a complete revision to an older deck of his (the Alchemical Artefactum) that'll be released from Gemini Artifacts in the near future, so that will absolutely be worth a look. Peculiar Antiques has something in that vein called the Providence Oracle, but it's difficult to get ahold of. As far as Outlaw's decks are concerned, the Tarot of the Four Corners is the most useful/unusual/flexible of theirs in my opinion, due to all the extras elements it has. But, all the usual caveats/potential issues in ordering from Outlaw apply, so... maybe post a WTB to see if anyone has one they're looking to unload first?
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reese Inner circle of Hell 1332 Posts |
The Whitman co. Fortune Telling cards from the '40s & 50's might be of interest to you.
I was lucky to find an unused deck (for free) years ago. They are quite fun. I haven't used them for straight readings but in conjunction with bizarre effects whose focus is on a child. Still, google the images and see what you think. |
WitchDocChris Inner circle York, PA 2614 Posts |
I prefer Lenormand decks. They're more just pictures rather than the established Tarot imagery, and I largely use an intuitive approach rather than just spouting off the traditional meanings of the cards.
Christopher
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greerj Loyal user East Tennessee 282 Posts |
Matthew,
I have the Tarot of the four corners that I would consider trading for something in a similar bizarre type vein if you decide to go that route. John |
ProfessorMagicJMG Loyal user 257 Posts |
Hi Matthew,
I have recently been on a similar journey and have been diving deep into Enrique Enriquez, Alejandro Jodorowsky, etc. I watched the "Tarology" documentary on Amazon Prime and was fascinated by Enriquez's approach to reading the cards as a sequential story based only on the shapes and imagery of the cards. In the documentary, he uses a version of the Marseille deck and says he prefers that one because it is the most "iconic" and least representational, so the most conducive to looking at pure metaphor. Is there some reason you want to avoid a Marseille deck? If not, that would be my first recommendation, and to purchase some of his books that describe his approach, and watch Tarology. Second suggestion would be a storytelling game with its expansions called Once Upon A Time. The art has a storybook feel and there are characters, events, qualities, items and locations; plenty of material to put together multiple decks of metaphor cards, and they are nonthreatening and beautiful, although not necessarily "vintage." https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1234......ard-game Third suggestion would be a Lenormand deck; these have a rich history, detailed in this very lengthy article: https://burningserpent.wordpress.com/201......m-place/ One of the best looking "vintage" versions of the Lenormand: https://www.tarotbyseven.com/product-pag......ng-cards Enriquez has a great article on adapting his tarot methodology to standard playing cards, focusing on the basic metaphorical aspects of cards and the visual attributes of the suits; not sure where it came from originally but pm me your email and I'll send it along. Thanks for mentioning the Pho-Psy-Pro deck; I wasn't aware of that one. Another item for my wish list.
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Lo Pan Special user Haven't slept in weeks - but I now have 769 Posts |
Please consider the Deck of Shadows - They are beautifully designed, dark but not toooo dark and are shipped ready for your custom aging.
From the web site: Conceived to use the words on each card as the primary method of interpretation and containing a "soul" of their own, you no longer have to memorize symbol and image meanings nor be relegated to constant referral to reference materials in order to understand what the cards are saying. Just let the words, themselves, speak to you and rouse passionate and moving associations. Whether you are new to divination or an experienced Reader, The Deck of Shadows will express itself to you like none other. They are reasonably priced and a joy to work with. http://www.thinkingmagically.com/deck_of_shadows Hope this helps, Lo Pan |
sgrossberg Special user Southern California 739 Posts |
Thank you, gypsyfish!
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sgrossberg Special user Southern California 739 Posts |
Thank you, Lo Pan!
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Philemon Vanderbeck Inner circle Seattle, WA 4694 Posts |
They're not cards, but you may want to consider these:
https://www.storycubes.com/
Professor Philemon Vanderbeck
That Creepy Magician "I use my sixth sense to create the illusion of possessing the other five." |
innermind Regular user suburban Detroit 154 Posts |
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On Mar 12, 2017, Philemon Vanderbeck wrote: There actually is a reading system available for Rory's Story Cubes: http://www.lybrary.com/symbol-dice-reading-p-708639.html Some other suggestions.... Lenono cards might be something to consider. Lenono cards were developed by reader Paris Debono, and are based on Lenormand cards. https://xw241.infusionsoft.com/app/store......oryId=12 Reader Cynthia Fisher offers a Red Oracle deck that can be used as both a Lenormand and Lenono deck. https://www.etsy.com/listing/507215054/r......ctive_13 Dixit game cards are also an option. They are storytelling cards, but their surreal images would also be suitable for metaphorical readings. https://www.google.com/search?q=dixit&so......#imgrc=_
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Dr SH Elite user French Spirit in Sydney 425 Posts |
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On Jun 8, 2017, innermind wrote: How surprising to find this information here.... Paris Debono is in Sydney ...... he is my neighbour ! |
ProfessorMagicJMG Loyal user 257 Posts |
I think The Artifactum could be exactly what you're looking for; no scary images, just interesting combinations of shapes, mysterious background, and a fairly small pool of cards with rich metaphors. Check out this thread:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=14
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