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Rick Holcombe Special user 624 Posts |
Her's a new concept for the classic plot 'Coins Through Table'
Hope you enjoy it. Let me know what you think.. -Rick <---PRESS FULL SCREEN |
funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
Works for me! Demonstrating perhaps showing that HPC works best with a contrasting coin in the mix.
The story works too, with a bit of charm in China/Western relations not reasonable decades ago. Also gives a rationality to going through the table As a kid discovering a new friend (and realization of a dream) your voice might show more excitement.- but that depends on audience. How about four coins so that you can then follow up with CCC - "as long as the Chinese kids are here they might show you a bit of Oriental magic"
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst
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Andy Young Special user Jersey Shore, PA 813 Posts |
This is your best yet.
The only thing I would say is perhaps not show the chinese coins at the end right away. Bring the other coins up and when you revel the secret then dump the chinese coins at the same time. But that is a matter of taste and you can disagree. |
Rick Holcombe Special user 624 Posts |
Thanks for taking a look guys.
Funsway- I find the HPC to also be more convincing if the action is brought forward, then backward rather than side to side. What do you think? Andy- I appreciate that compliment! I did experiment with that final reveal, but ultimately decided on the way it's done here. I liked the slight cascade of the chinese coins appearing, it also provides agood moment for you know what to happen. |
funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
Interesting question, Rick. In my Sway Toss moves I select sidewise, frontal or vertical depending on the flow of the effect - how are the hand moving for other actions.
So, the same thinking might apply here. If the hand positioning and action is side by side in other effects preceding or following then that should guide. Likewise, front to back. You would not want a different handling for this move. If this is a stand-alone coin demonstration (something I would never do), then spectator positioning might influence. As the objective is to display the remaining coins to the observers, placing them closer to them does make sense. Thus, I might follow your hint here and go more back to front -- and then adjust my other effects to match. You will now have me rethinking many "small object" effects. For example, if I am going to hand a coin to a spectator, it would make sense to have the transferring hand closer to them the passing hand as a signal of what is to come, as in using a French Drop for a coin switch. To go to the side and then forward makes little sense, but what most performers do. Good thought.
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Rick Holcombe Special user 624 Posts |
I do this in mid-air also. You can see in my International Coins Across video.
https://youtu.be/vGelwEQf9Fw |
Rick Holcombe Special user 624 Posts |
I'm curious...
Are there any other examples of HPC being done forward to backward, instead of side to side? Maybe Dr. Rubenstein might chime in? |
Wilktone Loyal user Asheville, NC 258 Posts |
The Gallo Pitch combines both into an "X" direction.
I enjoyed your routine very much. Well executed and entertaining patter. |
tonsofquestions Inner circle 1802 Posts |
I agree - one of my favorites of yours so far. Each one is better than the last! The story was excellent, and loved that it was gaffless!
I thoroughly enjoyed the reveal at the end, but agree with Andy that it didn't quite fit the story to see all 3 Chinese coins at once at the end. If you like the cascade, maybe you can show a single Chinese coin when you explain that you crossed paths with a Chinese boy ... "but it wasn't just you, each of your friends had the same thing happen" - dump the other two coins and bring you hand up from under the table? Or maybe ... if you make it 4-coins through the table, then you can reveal 1, and then the remaining 3 for a cascade. Crazy idea: if you don't want to rework the whole routine to extend it to 4 phases (a bit long, maybe?) the middle one could be "twins" which explains why they went at the same time. Some other thoughts: Giving the friends names might connect the viewer with the story more, though it was still good as-is. I also appreciated the use of HPC (and BFP [Benzais]) as subtle and not over-slappy (there was another thread about that recently). Finally, since we'd discussed for previous routines, I thought your use of music here was fantastic. It wasn't distracting, yet still built as the routine went on, and the last coin through was perfectly timed to the music. I have no idea if that was intentional, but I thought it was a great detail. |
Rick Holcombe Special user 624 Posts |
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On Sep 16, 2017, Wilktone wrote: Thank you David. I see what you mean about the Gallo Pitch, but I meant more specifically shifting the action of a standard HPC from forward to backward. Quote:
On Sep 16, 2017, tonsofquestions wrote: TOQ, thanks again for your very thoughtful answers to my posts. I really appreciate the feedback. I'm pretty happy with the choreography as a whole, but the ending I think is surprising enough that it's not questioned. To the few I've shown this to live, they are just caught off guard completely and the story just works. Yeah, I like the HPC done this way. As you mentioned, no slapping or quickness is even necessary. Especially if done while pattering, it looks very casual as you talk about each coin. In regards to the music, thanks for noticing. I think music can add a lot to video; everyone knows that seeing something done live is very different than seeing a recording of it. In live performance, you can engage with the real people in front of you and you can feel the magic. Videos can feel flat or like something is missing. Music seems to help fill that space. I take my time to choose the right track and you would be surprised how often something just seems to "click". I never go to the trouble to choreograph the routine itself to a specific song, but instead search for the music that matches the vibe and pacing of the routine. I feel like we all move at a certain tempo whether we're aware of it or not and it's just a matter of time before you find a song that seems like it was made for you. Stay Tuned.. Rick |
CarpetShark Special user 576 Posts |
Nice HCP... not my favourite move but you pull it off perfectly. My only comment is with regards to the second coin: perhaps your left hand holding the 'two' coins should be held as if holding a small stack, as opposed to a single coin ? Just being picky, but hope this helps.
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Rick Holcombe Special user 624 Posts |
Thanks for taking a look Mr. Shark
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