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Last Laugh Inner circle Grass Valley, California 3498 Posts |
Https://archive.org/details/19320602Erik......gen2m11s
I wish I understood German.... Would a German speaker like to give a synopsis? And here's an interview with the guy that wrote the 'Hitler's Jewish Clairvoyant' - Mel Gordon https://archive.org/details/ErskineInter......rsJewish
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Last Laugh Inner circle Grass Valley, California 3498 Posts |
Here's a newer interview with Dr. Mel Gordon. Audio is much better than the previous one (not phoning in), but it's only a short interview.
https://archive.org/details/EricFixlerAu......ychicetc So apparently, Hanussen started his show by hypnotizing a skeptical woman to orgasm!
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j100taylor Inner circle 1198 Posts |
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On Sep 16, 2017, Last Laugh wrote: We must learn from the classics.
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
These are AWESOME!!!!!!
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Last Laugh Inner circle Grass Valley, California 3498 Posts |
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On Sep 16, 2017, j100taylor wrote: hahahaha Yeah, great interviews. He describes a 'ritual' where Hanussen turns a goat into a midget (I know 'little person' - but that's how it's described in the interview) using 2 virgins. Apparently there is footage of that somewhere, Dr. Mel has seen it.... doesn't seem to be online anywhere though. I'd love to see that!
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On Sep 16, 2017, Last Laugh wrote: Ordinary thing in Weimar Berlin |
Last Laugh Inner circle Grass Valley, California 3498 Posts |
How about the 'goat to midget' effect?
Seriously - how do we get to see that? Dr. Mel said he has the film....
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ParaLabs - Thomas Special user 913 Posts |
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On Sep 16, 2017, Last Laugh wrote: Don't know whether the translation is what you expected, ... However - here we go! Please keep two aspects in mind: On the one hand Hanussen didn't use a German language the way it is common today. It is rather archaic in the choice of words and construction of sentences. The syntax is horribly interlaced. There are multi-clause sentences to a degree that even native speakers partially have a hard time to follow. Trying to keep this syntax in English language is pretty hard. Plus keep in mind that my limits in your language might change the manner of speaking and the nuances anyway. And obviously there will be some awkward rapings of the English grammar no matter what. All that said, here is my clumsy translation of Hanussen's speech: Quote:
On June 02, 1932, Jan Erik Hanussen said: Cheers Th. |
Last Laugh Inner circle Grass Valley, California 3498 Posts |
Thank you! So very kind of you to take the time.
That's actually very interesting and meaningful. So amazing to be able to reach for a moment into such a fascinating life...
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Necromancer Inner circle Chicago 3076 Posts |
Love this. To Thomas' point, Hanussen's complicated syntax and overly flowery language is consistent with other performers who missed out on academic opportunities and overcompensated by putting on more self-consciously "scholarly" airs (Houdini being another).
For any English speakers looking to learn more about Hanussen, do read Mel Gordon's book, as well as Arthur Magida's; there are some gaps in one filled by the other, both factually and narratively. Be warned, though, that both tend to characterize their subject in perhaps too negative a light. You can find my notes to that effect in Genii (June 2016). Best, Neil
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Mr Timothy Gray Veteran user Rue d'Auseil 364 Posts |
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On Sep 18, 2017, Necromancer wrote: Because helping Nazis and a career of blackmail is so positive!
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Necromancer Inner circle Chicago 3076 Posts |
He is, as we all are, an ambiguous character -- neither all bad nor all good. That's far more interesting than rushing to the negative conclusion at every turn.
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Mr Timothy Gray Veteran user Rue d'Auseil 364 Posts |
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On Sep 19, 2017, Necromancer wrote: Nothing ambiguous about the Nazis' though, was there? And covering your back while the rest of the Jews get rounded up, just so you can remain in peanuts and champagne? It's possible to separate the man from the art, but it's not possible to separate the man from the man. He deserves the negative publicity. Don't become an apologist because you like magic tricks.
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Necromancer Inner circle Chicago 3076 Posts |
There's nothing ambiguous about the Nazis, looking back at them from our vantage point. And it certainly forms a neat and tidy moralist picture.
But the fact is that nobody knew what the members of the National Socialist German Workers Party (aka Nazis) were capable of during Hanussen's lifetime. The party didn't even have a majority in the Reichstag. That Hitler would someday become a dictator seemed unthinkable by numerous commentators of the time. That picture also ignores the actual timeline of events. The Nazis didn't keep Hanussen in peanuts and champagne -- he had all that just by being a successful entertainer and publisher before the Nazis showed up. Yes, he's guilty of cozying up to the politicians he thought were on the ascent (he was right) while depending on his wit to keep him out of harm's way as it always had (he was wrong). But by the time the first laws limiting the rights of Jewish citizens appeared in April 1933, Hanussen was already dead. The mass roundups of Jews following Kristalnacht wouldn't happen for five years later.
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