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Norm Regular user 124 Posts |
I recently cleaned out my magic drawers and re-discovered four COPPER Morgan rounds I bought at a coin convention a few years ago. They look super cool and are just a tad larger (by 1mm) than silver morgan dollars.
Off the top of my head, I want to try David Roth's Purse and Glass, as well as Wild Coin. I really like working with dollar sized coins as they fit MY hand pretty well. Has anyone done either of these routines with dollar sized coins as opposed to half dollars that David Roth uses in his book / video? I'm concerned with the coins being too large to fit under a shot glass, or even possibly breaking the mug or cup I would use in the routines as they are heavier than half dollar coins. Also, might the 1mm difference affect the routines adversely? Finally, what other routines do you think can be done with these copper Morgan rounds? Keep in mind, I'm more curious about using these larger copper coins vs. the half sized version. I realize almost any routine using contrasting coins can be used, but again, I like the dollar sized version. This is what they look like, although the obverse of mine resemble a genuine Morgan dollar a bit closer: https://www.mintproducts.com/1-oz-copper......lar.html |
Signet Loyal user 257 Posts |
I know this is not the trick coins section, but one great routine that comes to mind using one copper and three silver, along with a shell is Rising Dough by Dan Harlen. Very visual. Also a transposition from copper to silver, or vice versa.
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Poof-Daddy Inner circle Considering Stopping At Exactly 5313 Posts |
As far as pure SOH, you already answered yourself. Anything you could do with "X" silver coins. You can do a lot more with them if you have several and send some away to get gaffed. I bought Mark Mason's Morgan size Hopping Halves last year and had him custom make me a copper/silver coin (other than the one in the set) and another custom job that allows for a variety of effects most do with halves. It wasn't free. But it wasn't expensive for what all I got. I also bought a few extra copper rounds to match. Seriously though, with just a C/S coin and a few extra copper rounds that match, you open up a lot of effect possibilities.
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tonsofquestions Inner circle 1802 Posts |
I swear I responded to this earlier today, but it seems like something ate it.
I second Poof's response. Unless you're planning on using gaffs or props (like a box), there's nothing about any coin that makes it more or less possible to do effects. I've seen folks do retention vanishes with dimes, and with jumbo coins. And before anyone corrects me, I understand that techniques will vary somewhat by size of coin, but 1 mm isn't going to make the difference here. There's also a size that works well for your hands (generally what you can FP easily without flashing, but that's determined more by your hand than by the coin. If you're worried about the coin being too large for a shot glass, try it! You have the coins, and presumably a shot glass. Buy a bigger one if it's a problem. But similarly, if the 1mm difference causes problems with it, then there probably wasn't enough wiggle room on the Morgan dollar. But again, that goes to a prop. For wild coins or purse and glass, there's absolutely nothing that would happen differently in the routine based on this kind of size difference. It's entirely a preference thing - what's comfortable for you, and what you think looks best. |
Norm Regular user 124 Posts |
Thanks for the input you guys. It makes perfect sense.
I just tried using these coins for the purse and glass routine and immediately ran into a problem. Even though I have large hands and love doing retention vanishes and other sleights with dollar coins, I cannot do the a coin switch in my hand. Switching one coin for the other is seemingly impossible as the coins will talk. I have no problem doing these with half dollars. I will post this technique related question in another forum and see if I get any input. It looks like Wild Coin won't be a problem though! |
tonsofquestions Inner circle 1802 Posts |
Yup, and that's a thing related to your hands (and practice), rather than any props. You could also treat your coins (or get others) so they're "softer" (more worn) and then they'll talk less.
But again, that's not a limiting factor from the routine, but rather your hands. And the 1mm difference is unlikely to be the cause. |
tedski Special user New Jersey 792 Posts |
What type of switch are you using? DeManche change works very well with dollars and I use it all the time. Tumble change is also perfect for dollars. Palm to palm is possible, but I don't find it sure fire with dollars, your mileage may vary...there's also edge grip to edge grip, but that is visual and doesn't lend itself to all routines
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
Do they sound differently than silver coins? I have an effect called Jingle that uses the musical clink to signal the transportation
that could work well with these coins - like 3Fly that used the sound to advantage.
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Hare Veteran user 323 Posts |
The DeManche Change, best described in The Amateur Magician's Handbook, (Henry Hay), is the perfect one handed switch for Morgan dollar size coins. It does take a reasonable amount of practice, but it is perfectly silent and invisible when the hand is moving, if performed competently.
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