A few years back a Café Member (I think Bill Palmer) sent me a nice routine for an ungaffed Scotch and Soda.

Bill if you read this post please PM me.

Thanks in advance and have a great day,

Walking Bob in Iowa

From another site, Bill's websites are down and it may be a while before he responds. Rarely on the Café any more.

try billpalmer.com

That's such a shame Bill was a great asset to the Café I remember him fondly.

Thanks for the info.

Just received what I was looking for from Bill.

Have a great day,

Walking Bob in Iowa

So what is the routine called? If you don’t mind me asking. Thanks

I don't know if Bill Palmer gave it a name, but it was a S&S in effect.

John

I think he referred to it as his "Ungaffed or Gaffless" Scotch & Soda.

I remember it and his wonderful generosity in making it available to any that wanted it. It's a nice routine on the old classic, and that it came from such a magical gentleman as Bill Palmer, well, that made it even more special to me and probably to many.

Hope he is good.

That S&S routine also led to the development of the PalmerClip -- a sleight I now use in dozens of effects

My crippled fingers couldn't do Bill's effect as described, so I found a different way ...

"What This Country Needs is a Good 85 Cent Scotch and Soda"

That's the title it had when Bill Palmer sent the routine to me . . . dear lord! . . . 13 years ago. Incredibly generous of him.

I also hope he's well.

Later,

D

I too appreciate Bill's generosity, and his depth of understanding.

Clarioneer, A Café member, at least at the time, came up with a very simple way to replace the main sleight in Bill's method.

John

Hello All,

Does anyone know if Bill's ungaffed version is available anywhere? I tried to PM him on here but it said he was not accepting "non-reply" PMs at the time. I would love to learn this effect as I have heard amazing things about it. Even just last night I was at the Magic Castle and someone mentioned how they were absolutely blown away by his version of this classic. Any and all help is appreciated thank you.

The old address for Bill was curator@cupsandballsmuseum.com

might still work

Thank you Funsway, Bill was kind enough to respond to the email I sent him and sent me his routine. I can't wait to work on it thanks again for your help.

Update, I have been working on this for a couple weeks and absolutely love this effect thanks Bill, and the people who pointed me to Bill for providing me with such a wonderful gaffless version of this trick.