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fab1an New user 61 Posts |
Hello my dear magi-friends!
First of all: Sorry if this topic doesn't really belong here. I did not find a better sub-forum to post this question. However, I am very interested in the way various ways of presenting a signed coin bend routine (e.g. QB, CV, Hercules, etc.). I think that the effect is very strong - and it gets even stronger if it is performed with a meaningful story. So: How do you perform such routine and what is your storyline behind it? How are the reactions and what works best for you? Thank you all for your time. I hope we can have a good discussion here! Fabian |
Michael Rubinstein V.I.P. 4665 Posts |
You might want to check out my double coin bend on my At the Table dvd. Coin isn't signed, but there are convincers
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John T. Sheets Inner circle Las Vegas, USA 1105 Posts |
FYI, There's a great deal amount of information on the QB3-DVD which is included with the "Quantum Bender 3".
Here's the QB3 thread with lots of info there as well.... http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......tart=600 I hope this helps!
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daniel116 Regular user 196 Posts |
I could never get the idea of a signed coin bend routine.
If the coin is (appearingly) visible through out the entire routine, why would you have it signed? Did you ever see a "signed spoon bend" routine? what's the difference then? |
fab1an New user 61 Posts |
To Michael and John: Thank you both for your suggestions!
To Daniel: Well, I do not perform any kind of a spoon or fork bend. However, a coin is a way smaller object and most of us carry them around everyday. Signing a coin eliminates the thought that you could have changed it in the last second, even though it was in play the whole time. Minutes after the routine, the spectator can't really recall every little aspect of the presentation, so its just natural that they question the coin afterwards. |
Andy Young Special user Jersey Shore, PA 813 Posts |
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On Apr 26, 2018, daniel116 wrote: You have a coin signed because it makes it personal. People also can realize that you can switch in a different coin. Spoons or forks are more disarming. |
John Oaks New user 64 Posts |
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On Apr 26, 2018, Andy Young wrote: If you want to disarm someone, forget spoons and forks, go for the steak knife! Sorry, couldn't resist.....
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Ray Haining Inner circle Hot Springs, AR 1907 Posts |
Oaks: Good one.
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evikshin Special user 893 Posts |
What I've been doing is this, I have the coin selected, signed, I then secretly bend it (using the Ox Bender, in my opinion the best coin bender on the market right now). I then do a very quick one coin routine with the coin. I keep it in motion and toss it around so they don't see the bend. Specifically, after the bend and after ditching the gimmicks, I will do a Spider Vanish of the quarter, followed by a quick handwash, followed by a reproduction behind the spectator's ear. I then place it in their hand, and then show that it magically bent.
I find doing it this way gives a better audience impact. There's more of a build up to the climax, and for those magic theorists, it puts more meaningful distance between the dirty work (the bend), and the climax (revealing the bend). |
Gerald Deutsch Special user 526 Posts |
I posted this on the Perverse Magic thread of the Genii Forum on April 2, 2006”
4 Bent Coin The “bent coin” (a coin folded into a “C”) is written up in “Modern Coin Magic” (Bobo) on page 186 a great “prop” for Perverse Magic. The bent quarter can be used to create a Perverse coin through the table. The routine I do is to first pass a quarter through the table and explain I was lucky that it went so easily. That doesn’t always happen. Well, since I’m feeling lucky I’ll just do it again. This time I have trouble and I give up when I show the quarter is bent. |
EasyK New user The secret is in one of my 79 Posts |
I don't think you can have the coin in Bobo's version signed? I may be wrong, but I think you have the bent coin in palm and switches with a borrowed coin.
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Curtis Kam V.I.P. same as you, plus 3 and enough to make 3498 Posts |
I've tried this effect with and without the signature, and spectators do find the addition of the signature significant. That's probably because the signature 1) cancels a switch; 2) serves as a reminder that at one point, they had the coin in their hands, and it was flat; 3) provides misdirection that makes the method more deceptive.
I've had success with having them put their middle initial on the coin, and then putting the work in as I guess their middle name. This seems to be an aside, with little to do with the effect, which is ideal. Or I had a witness initial the coin, telling them that "when you tell your friends about this, you can tell them that ___ was here." Nowdays, I have them write or draw someone or something they dislike. This is a fun way to motivate the bend.
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kebmo3108 Regular user Austria 113 Posts |
Flexion by Jon Allen gives a very good presentation for bending a key (Initials of a person you hate + Initials of a person you love). When running low on keys or somebody has already seen the key bend (I am a hobby performer), I use the same pattern for coinvexed, which works perfect.
I was surprised when I experienced really good reactions with a coin bend. This plot seems to be stronger for casual situations compared to formal settings for some reason,... |
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