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Bob G Inner circle 2830 Posts |
Hi everybody,
I'm sure this is addressed somewhere on the Café -- what isn't? -- but I haven't been able to find it. I've gotten to the point where I can easily push the top card of the deck a bit to the right, then pull it back in and catch a pinky break. But I'd really like to do the same sort of thing with the top *two* cards so as to prepare for a DL. I know it can be done -- I've seen Daryl do it on his Encyclopedia of card sleights, for instance -- but I'm having a heck of a time doing it myself. In one instance, Daryl quickly started to push one card over and then seemed to retreat a bit to catch the second card, but he didn't explain how he did it. The most common thing that happens when I try to push over two cards is that the third one comes along for the ride. And I've practiced this a *lot*. If someone refers me to one of the books or DVD's I already have I'll be embarrassed, but c'est la vie! I've for it in Card College and The Magic Book, among others. Just to be clear, here are things I'm *not* looking for: 1. suggestions for other ways to get a break for a DL. I know that in some circumstances one can remove the top card, get a break under the next card, and then replace the original top card on the deck. (Due to Robert Houdin??) And I can do a pretty good pinky count, though it's a bit slow. And I can do a pretty good strike DL, though it could be improved. 2. Suggestions about how to do a breakless DL using a double pushoff. Of course, this last is likely to be related to what I'm describing, but one thing at a time! I'd really like to experiment and see whether I can master the method described at length in my subject line. I like to practice different variations of sleights and find the ones that work best for me. Thanks for any advice people can offer. Best Regards, Bob |
fonda57 Inner circle chicago 3078 Posts |
Third finger goes under the top two cards and keeps the third card from moving.
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Bob G Inner circle 2830 Posts |
Oh, interesting! Thanks, fonda57, I'll try that.
Bob |
Denis Behr Special user Germany 703 Posts |
You will find an explanation here: https://www.conjuringarchive.com/list/bo......ght=9056
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Bob G Inner circle 2830 Posts |
Thanks, Denis. I'll look this up. I know I've read it before, but I find that sometimes months or a year later I'm ready to receive information that flew by me the first time.
And thanks for compiling this amazing index, which I've used many times. Bob |
Last Laugh Inner circle Grass Valley, California 3498 Posts |
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On Aug 6, 2018, fonda57 wrote: Huh, just realized I was doing this but hadn't noticed. Good advice for sure. Also, pushing the two cards over with the middle of the thumb akin to a push off double/second. A little knacky but much easier than an actual push off double/second.
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Bob G Inner circle 2830 Posts |
Hi, Last Laugh,
Could you elaborate on the "middle of the thumb" part? I just looked up the description in Card College, of the double push-off. He says something like, bend your thumb a little more sharply than usual, push the top card for a short distance, and then the inside of the outer phalange of the thumb catches the second card. (Or something like that! -- I'm paraphrasing.) Anyway, I'm not sure what distinction you're making between "...middle of the thumb..." and "actual push off." Thanks for your help! Bob |
Claudio Inner circle Europe 1927 Posts |
Bob,
Card College - Vol. 1, pages 211 & 212, as noted by Denis Behr, is really an excellent reference. Giobbi's description is clear and concise and contains additional tips on page 212. The ideas expressed by some of posters here, are developed in Giobbi's text. Good luck. Claudio |
Bob G Inner circle 2830 Posts |
Hi Claudio,
Card College has become one of a handful of my favorite books, along with The Lord of the Rings. I did take another look at pp. 211-12 after reading Denis's note. That, together with fonda57's idea, is definitely helping, but I feel that I still have a long way to go. I can usually get a break under *one* card intentionally, and that's progress from a year ago. Consistency with two cards is still a problem. See you, Bob |
Last Laugh Inner circle Grass Valley, California 3498 Posts |
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On Aug 7, 2018, Bob G wrote: That sounds right, but I don't know if I'd have understood it from hearing that. For me, its right about here: The tip of the thumb starts the push but then the lower part of the thumb picks up the second card. And this is what it looks like underneath. I'm using both my second and third finger to hold back the 3rd card.
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Bob G Inner circle 2830 Posts |
Many thanks, LL. It was really generous of you to take the time to make the photo and the two videos -- beautifully and clearly photographed, I might add. I'll study these carefully and, if you don't mind, come back with questions if I have any.
Best Regards, Bob |
Last Laugh Inner circle Grass Valley, California 3498 Posts |
Glad to help!
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