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aceofpablo New user Mexico 17 Posts |
I've been trying the faro shuffle but I can't seem to get it right.
I can cut the pack but when I have to do the weave I dont seem to get them to interlock perfectly. What can I do? aceofpablo :bikes:
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
You can keep practicing.
Don't you hate that kind of advice? Me too. It's the truth though. Ok, I suggest this... Do not put a death grip on the cards. Keep them in a relaxed grip. Use a light touch. Don't expect the deck to faro perfectly every time. Just keep practicing. I think it's more important to get the feel for the weave not the "perfect" at first. I think Derick Dingle suggests to slip a pinkie inbetween the halves at the back. (I do not do that, but you might like it) Learn a trick that requires the slight to keep you excited. I decided to use Paul Gertner's UNSHUFFLED. It requires 3 perfect faro's during the trick, but it's a great trick. Keep one deck aside for practicing your faro shuffles. When you first start learning it's best to use a deck that is just for faro'ing. After the deck has been faro'd many times, it get's "trained" and continues to get easier to do. I think everybody does it slightly different so if you find a way that works for you, then don't fret about not doing it the exact way it's pictured in the books. After you have the knack, you can then use any deck that's in good shape. I find that new decks used to give me problems but not anymore. You can time yourself to see how long it takes you to take an "in-order" deck and faro shuffle it until it's back "in order". I think it takes me a minute so that's 8 (or is it 7) shuffles in one minute. I also remember when it took me 30 minutes. Most importantly, use a light touch. I'm not an expert. I don't like to perform UNSHUFFLED when the light is low. I did that once at a party and it was very difficult. I had to go over to a lamp to do it and that was not what I wanted to do, obviously. frank
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TOBIAS Loyal user Seattle Magic 221 Posts |
I like the faro in the hands, but love the table faro...
Check out Martin A. Nash's Infinity & Beyond. He shows how to do a table faro and it only takes a few hours to get it down... Do yourself a favor and watch the performance and think the whole time when he is doing a shuffle. It is a perfect faro every time.
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Euan Inner circle 1041 Posts |
Get yourself some sandpaper (no really!) and sand the short edges of the cards very lightly, it puts more of a round shape on them and lets them weave more easily.
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Scott F. Guinn Inner circle "Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G" 6586 Posts |
The biggest key in my opinion: the weave happens with the RELEASE of pressure, not the pressure itself. Often when people are having trouble doing the faro, it's because they are trying to force the packets together like a couple of bricks. Think about LETTING the packets weave as opposed to MAKING them weave.
Also, at least for me when I was first learning it, I found it much easier to weave from the bootm up as opposed to from the top down as Harry Lorayne and others teach it. Don't know why, though--that's just how it was.
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aceofpablo New user Mexico 17 Posts |
Thanks, I'll keep it in mind.
love the art since I was five practice fully since I was ten , sixteen already havent stop and never will.
Magic is my life and my life is magic. |
Rolando Santos New user Atlanta, Ga. 86 Posts |
This is going to sound so lame-- but Spanish Magician, Rafael Benatar gave the single piece of advice that made it work for me-- he said
"Don't give them any choice but to weave" It is as much an attitude as feel. I just began not giving them an option and about a week later and several hours of practice they just weaved. The cards are held firmly at the bottoms, but otherwise loosely and you Shove the cards into one another firmly. It also helps to use a flexible deck-- Aviator, CVS brand and STUD Brand cards found at Walgreens work well-- Tally Ho's are the best. Now I do it without thinking. It is a matter of practice and attitude. Good Luck Rolando |
Burt Yaroch Inner circle Dallas,TX 1097 Posts |
"Be the faro Danny. Naaanaa na naaa naa naa."
All great advice so I've only got on thing to add: Use a new deck. And I don't mean like new I mean brand new. Use it for your faro practice only. Don't do anything else with it. If you bend a card just chuck it. As has been said your going for a faro, not a perfect faro so one card less doesn't matter at this point.
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Garrett Nelson Special user 644 Posts |
I agree. I find that a brand new deck (with the exception of Tally-ho) is harder to faro with right out of the box. Once it is (gently) used a little it gets easier.
This I find espicially true for the one hand shuffle. |
RandyWakeman V.I.P. Plainfield, ILLINOIS 1617 Posts |
The inexpensive RCT "Faro Shuffle" and "Faro Notes" will give most all the information you'll ever need.
The main tip is, regardless of brand, some decks just plain faro better than others, right out of the box. Several cardmen set those aside for multiple faro work. |
Marcus Selle New user Berlin, Germany 58 Posts |
I am with Randy that some decks simply faro much better than others of the same brand. Especially when learning the Faro it is important to practice with such a deck. But how should you know, if you have a fine deck when you don't can faro at all?
You should have a already accomplished Faro-shuffler test your deck. And if it will not work after all this, switch from bottom-up to top-down technique or vice versa. Sometimes this will help. And don't give up |
Lance Pierce Special user 878 Posts |
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On 2002-08-02 02:41, RandyWakeman wrote: Those sources are great, and it's where I learned the faro, too. Tips: A light touch, don't clutch or grip the cards. Hold the packets so that if you look straight down at their backs, they form a slight "V". Hold the packets so that if you look straight at their inner edges, they form a slight "V". This means that when you start the weave, the packets are touching only at the inner bottom corners...not all along the inner corners, but only at the bottom cards of each packet. Weave softly from the bottom up. Don't hold the packets too far up (don't choke up on them). They should be held nearer to the outer ends, no more than a third of the length of a packet from the outer ends. Use your left little finger as a table for that packet to rest on. Once the packets start to weave, relax and "let" the weave continue up the deck. If your packets were square to begin with and you're holding them at the correct angles, this will happen almost automatically. TCR |
RandyWakeman V.I.P. Plainfield, ILLINOIS 1617 Posts |
Perhaps the best dissertation on the table riffle faro appears in the January, 1983 issue of the "New Tops."
Again, MINT III would include it . . . :0). |
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