What is the name of the trick
that starts out as the professors nightmare
but ends up as one piece of rope? thanks

Think you will find many rope effects/routines with that theme -- all slightly different.

I imagine Dick can relate who first published such an effect, or who made his reputation doing it.

I prefer to start with a single rope, perform various C&R combined with other non-rope effects, finally cut the rope into three pieces for PN and end with a single length.

The point is -- no single "name of trick" will help learn it.

Guess I don't understand exactly what you are looking for. Do you want to buy it? Learn it? Give credit for a published variation?

Conway rope trick or Pop Hayden Mongolian Pop Knot

Where is the Conway Rope Trick being sold. Are you selling it Pete. It was a Ken Brooke item in the 1970's.

By the way, it is not the full trick, but only the ending of how to end with one long length of rope. Id does not explain a version of the Professor Nightmare aka Equal - Unequal Ropes.

The Conway Rope Trick, as sold by Ken, was just really an extra phase/ending for The Professor's Nightmare.

The actual routine, which starts with one piece of rope, incorporates cut and restored phases, the professors nightmare effect, restoration to one piece again and (if required) a jumping knot is Joe Riding's cut & restored rope routine - released in 1978. You can also add Pat Conway's superb idea into Joe's routine if necessary.

I've been performing Joe's version since 1981 - in cabaret but also, on occasions, in close-up. I truly cannot put a value upon this pure masterpiece of magical routining.

There was an effect (which I owned at one point) marketed as The Professor's Dream... you can see an extended version of the effect in this video here The video link though should start at the part of the effect that it was originally marketed as. I believe this is the effect you are after.

Hi Bill.
For more on the Conway Rope --P/M me.
Ricky

Is THIS the Conway Rope Trick? Or is it The Professor's Dream? Or are they both the same thing?
Anyway, it looks good.

I've mentioned this before in this forum, but to save links, I'll briefly mention it again.

About 1969, the late Dennis Loomis and I developed a routine that started with the Karl Germaine principle for C&R, segued into another C&R using the short piece left over from Germaine, followed with the Slydini cut to the Professor's Nightmare,then, the Nightmare, and, finished with a bluff restoration (BEFORE CONWAY!)

I used it to open the high school program for about 5 or 6 seasons. Denny used it, too, but, not as an opener.

Recil Bordner said that Denny "broke the record" for "the largest order for spools of rope that he ever had! --I was buying rope from Frances Marshall, and, I probably broke Frances' record!

The only thing, even slightly "original", was the ROUTINE! The first part "came" from the late Ken Allen's "I'll Do It Again" which both he and Abbott's sold. Ken had developed his routine in the early '50s. It started with Germaine, and finished with the Edward Victor. The "Slydini Cut" came from Slydini's book. The "PN" was Bob Carvr's. The bluff restoration was a "brainstorm" of Denny's and mine.

I actually made a "deal" with Frances Marshall! I would bring her a "bushel" of PN ropes, and trade them for spools of rope. (It saved her the labor cost of cutting rope into PNs! --and she could say that each PN had been tested in actual performance by a professional magician!!!!!

Eventually I developed a Nightmare routine that I liked better, and "retired" the "Oslund/Loomis routine".

I don't know WHEN Pop Haydn developed his Mongolian, and I don't care! Pop's Mongolian is GREAT! Frankly, I like his routine and PRESENTATION, much better than what Denny and I had developed.

We both used established PRINCIPLES! The PRESENTATION is what "makes it"!!!

BRAD: NO not Conway.

Brad; This is the trick that I had.... and it was marketed as the Professor's Dream.

The Mongolian Pop Knot and the Comedy Four Ring Routine were both developed in the late Sixties when I was performing on the streets in NYC. Both were published in the mid-Seventies, originally by Brother Paul West and then by Jay Marshall.