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Metalepsis
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Posted: Feb 3, 2005 6:30pm
I am interested in the history of this effect (beyond just the inventor), and its variations. I greatly enjoyed J.Racherbaumer's Arch Triumphs, but that has only whetted my appetite for some proper history. Can I be so lucky that there is a single book dedicated to it's history? Or will I have to just use his bibliography as a springboard (fair enough, he's done quite a lot of work). Not just effects, but the personalities, and thinking behind its many forms, is what I'm interested in.
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Jonathan Townsend
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Posted: Feb 3, 2005 6:52pm
Have you gone back to the trick "cheek to cheek" and also looked at Wesley James "wishuffle"? Both part of the larger story. You might hear about how some kind in Tannen's was doing an "in the hands triumph" around 1980.
I like Dingle's take on the trick. It seems he liked the Leipzig approach to the card selection.
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Metalepsis
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Posted: Feb 4, 2005 3:10am
Thanks Jonathon,
I'll start there, and count myself lucky. I take it there's not a good single book then, but its worth questing around on the subject...
I'll post again when, I've chased up these references.
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daffy
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Posted: Feb 4, 2005 4:00am
I'm not sure, but I think that Triumph is an effect from Dai Vernon, which was first published in Vernon's "Star of Magic" book.
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Jonathan Townsend
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Posted: Feb 4, 2005 2:29pm
The book The Stars of Magic is still available. It was/is published by Tannen's and has lots of goodies including Dai Vernon's Triumph. I figured JonR would have covered that ground in his citations.
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Metalepsis
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Posted: Feb 4, 2005 4:20pm
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On 2005-02-04 14:29, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
I figured JonR would have covered that ground in his citations.
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Of course he did...this thread seems to be getting a little off track. I'll clarify,
I know who invented it (Thanks anyway Daffy!), and I know some other versions. What I was hoping for was a scholarly treatment of the history of the trick. The 'thinking around the times' so to speak. A kind of lineage of people who contributed to the effect, rather than just EFFECTS. I suppose this is probably better pursued by just talking to people, both here and IRL.
I seem to have trouble making myself clear here at the Café...I'll have to work on that. Again to clarify, history and anecdotes, NOT the lineage of the effects (except to demonstrate principles).
Thanks for your help on the topic. I also plan to make an extensive search of the Café for this stuff, but am a bit busy for a while...so that'll have to wait.
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