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cardguy
Inner circle
Queens, New York
1171 Posts
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Posted: Dec 18, 2001 12:38am
I love performing Ace assemblies or any other effect where cards are separated and all end up in the same pile. Do any of you have any favorite methods or routines in this category? (preferably with un-gaffed cards) My favorite one is Shipwrecked from 21st Century Card Magic by James Swain. 
Frank G. a.k.a. Cardguy
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Dorian Rhodell
Inner circle
San Francisco, CA.
1195 Posts
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Posted: Dec 18, 2001 1:23am
Mike Skinner's Sentimental Aces and Larry Jenning's version of Mc'Donald's Aces. (Even though it uses gaffs). Anyways, those are my two personal favorites.
Take care,
Dorian Rhodell
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Thomas Wayne
Inner circle
Alaska
2251 Posts
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Posted: Dec 18, 2001 9:17am
Personal favorites:
1) Open Travelers
2) Stencel Aces
3) L.S.D. Aces (Wesley James)
Regards,
Thomas Wayne
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Leeo
New user
Manchester, UK
99 Posts
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Posted: Dec 18, 2001 9:41am
Peter Kane's Jazz Aces is a good effect and fairly easy to perform. I found it in Jerry Mentzer's Packet Tricks.
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Doug Byrd
Veteran user
VA
361 Posts
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Posted: Dec 18, 2001 11:29am
Non-gimmicked versions:
Queens Debate
Jazz Ace
Gimmicked Versions:
A Dream of Aces
"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc"
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Jeff
Inner circle
Orlando, FL
1215 Posts
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Posted: Dec 18, 2001 1:37pm
Peter Kane's Jazz Aces is tops in my book.
Jeff
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DaveVegas
New user
Leicester,England
87 Posts
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Posted: Dec 18, 2001 4:22pm
I like solo flight aces in Expert card technique (page 254); always has a big impact on the audience.
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magisher
New user
17 Posts
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Posted: Dec 18, 2001 11:43pm
I like Jazz aces and Shipwrecked, too. If any of you guys (and girls) read Visions, Great Scott has a cool one on there called Coeur de Lane assembly, where there is an instant repeat. I learned it, and it’s been getting lots of great reactions.
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Paul
Inner circle
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4206 Posts
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Posted: Dec 20, 2001 6:13pm
My favourite ungaffed versions are Gerald Kosky’s One At A Time Aces, A Wagner version from a Harris book, possibly in his own too (in the latter two the spectators think they’ve seen the faces of all the cards placed on the aces. In Kosky’s you show the aces arriving one at a time. Also Ackermann’s Re-Assembled Finale where the cards fly back (but he uses queens rather than aces).
For those of you that like MacDonald’s I used an ungaffed version by Nash some years ago that tries to duplicate the cleaness of it, but is only really suitable for larger audiences. His books have recently been re-published. He has a great presentational touch that I use with MacDonald’s.
For MacDonalds I apparently have the aces selected by spectators, but switch via a Vernon strip out so they think they have seen the backs of the aces initially. I also use a different vanish for each packet (a Krenzel concept) but more or less the Mary Wolf handling from one of the Mendoza books.
Some of the newer assemblies mentioned by others here I have not come across but if you check out some of the stuff mentioned I am sure you will find it worth your while.
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Scott F. Guinn
Inner circle
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6480 Posts
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Posted: Dec 20, 2001 11:31pm
Anyone interested in my "Coeur d' Alene Assembly" may email for the routine. Based on a John Bannon routine from "Mirage," I have done away with the extra card--only four jokers and twelve red cards are used, there are no gaffs, and there is an instant and simultaneous repeat. Plus, it's pretty easy to do!
"Love God, laugh more, spend more time with the ones you love, play with children, do good to those in need, and eat more ice cream. There is more to life than magic tricks." - Scott F. Guinn (Finally a daddy!) @ScottFGuinn
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Mya Angel
Special Assistant
California
1399 Posts
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Posted: Dec 22, 2001 11:22am
Happy Belated Birthday Dave! 
Hope it was a GREAT one! 
 
 
 
Mya 
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Paul S
New user
Scotland UK
100 Posts
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Posted: Jan 28, 2002 4:29pm
How about Vernon's Slow Motion Aces from Stars of Magic? Two versions, one 'easier' the other advanced...Anybody get these down? I just do the Francis Carlyle one from Royal Road. Gaff wise, I think Bod K's Aces in their Faces is rather good. You can do other routines with the gaffs in the deck when you get comfortable with them, like the Hofzinser plot, or a variation of.
Paul S.
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Tilt
Veteran user
L.A.
387 Posts
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Posted: Jan 28, 2002 5:05pm
Modern Jazz Aces by Darwin Ortiz is a good one.
Tilt
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Mark Ennis
Inner circle
Raleigh, NC
1030 Posts
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Posted: Feb 5, 2002 6:00pm
My favorite Ace Assemblies are the MacDonald's Aces (using the laydown sequence from Pallbearers Review by Stuart Judah) and Modern Jazz Aces by Darwin Ortiz.
ME
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Jeff
Inner circle
Orlando, FL
1215 Posts
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Posted: Feb 5, 2002 10:48pm
I like The Ace Assembly routine from "Sleight of Dave" by Dave Williamson.
Also Jazz Aces.
Jeff
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MagicalChris
New user
Oregon
53 Posts
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Posted: Feb 5, 2002 11:39pm
I recently got Lee Asher's 5 Card Stud, and he teaches an ace production called Thunderbird which is great. I highly suggest the video.
-Chris
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sw'sfan
New user
4 Posts
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Posted: Feb 9, 2002 10:45am
I love Excelsis from The Vernon Chronicles Vol. 1
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David Neighbors
V.I.P.
3136 Posts
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Posted: Mar 6, 2002 10:00am
you might like reverse assembly handling from
Ken Simons book, Riffling the pasteboards.
Best David Neighbors
The Coinjurer
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Paul
Inner circle
A good lecturer at your service!
4206 Posts
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Posted: Mar 6, 2002 7:37pm
Not come across that Dave, but I do like the reverse assembly plot for aces or coins.
Best wishes,
Paul Hallas
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David Neighbors
V.I.P.
3136 Posts
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Posted: Mar 9, 2002 12:50am
Hi Paul,
I have one of two left if you like.
Best David Neighbors
The Coinjurer
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Steve Friedberg
Inner circle
1256 Posts
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Posted: Mar 9, 2002 1:17am
Darn it... now you guys have done it... sending me back to my copies of Hugard/Braue and Stars of Magic...
Seriously, this is one of the reasons this board has rapidly become my favorite: so many opinions about so many good options.
Thanks, folks!
Cheers,
Steve
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Alewishus
Inner circle
parts unknown
1035 Posts
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Posted: Mar 9, 2002 1:47pm
Though not an ace assembly in the classic sense, I love to perform the Vernash aces.
Sack subs, ok Ross?
We miss you asper.
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Matt Graves
Special user
Huntsville, Alabama (USA)
505 Posts
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Posted: Mar 10, 2002 5:52am
I love the Stanley Collins four-ace assembly in The Amateur Magician's Handbook. You deal all the aces face up, then three face-up cards on top of each. Then one by one you show the cards in each stack and the aces have vanished. Then you put the cards back on the deck, deal down four piles again and the aces have all moved to one pile . . . very very nifty. For anyone who wants to look it up, it's in the chapter "Tricks Where No Cards Are Chosen" - and it's about the second trick, I think.
Gosh I love these emoticons y'all have on this board . . .
Spiff-o-rama . . .
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Tricky
Regular user
108 Posts
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Posted: Mar 10, 2002 8:04am
I love Henry Christs four ace trick from ETMCM 5 and Macdonalds aces are cool too. another I like is from Card College volume 1 Royal Flush Finale.
james
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Steve Knight
Elite user
Oxford U.K.
410 Posts
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Posted: Mar 10, 2002 4:23pm
My vote goes to John Bannon's Mirage Assembly. It's done with queens rather than aces (for a reason) and at the end of the routine the queens "instantly" disassemble back into their original packets for a nice clean finish.
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Thomas Hudecsek
Regular user
106 Posts
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Posted: Mar 12, 2002 1:33am
my favorites are:
"De ja vue Jokers" by Darwin Ortiz a very convincing assembly where the jokers jump instantly back (negative: uses 5 jokers)
if absolutly inpromptu I love to use Daryls
"diamond jack" as described in Richards almanac and Daryls Joker assembly booklet
and "rock´n roll aces" I found in apocalypse but forget who invented it. it uses an Olram subtility for the ace layout, so the spectators know there are the 4 aces laying on the table. I love it 
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Paul
Inner circle
A good lecturer at your service!
4206 Posts
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Posted: Mar 12, 2002 3:13pm
I am not so keen on using jokers for assemblies. Court cards are ok sometimes but jokers are a cop out. You don't get four jokers in a deck.
Blank cards is an exception when you use Bannan's Twilight Zone Assembly
Paul Hallas
"Mentalism With Cards" will soon be out of print. "The Tree of Knowledge" is out now!
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Thomas Hudecsek
Regular user
106 Posts
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Posted: Mar 13, 2002 1:44am
I am absolutly with you Paul. In the case of deja vue jokers, I make an exception because it is so clean looking, and the final showing of the four jokers in the leader packet before they jump instantly back is so convincing. The jokers are not taken out of the deck but are introduced for themselves in a small packet.
I don´t know Bannan´s twilight zone, what kind of assembly is that, please? 
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Julien
Regular user
108 Posts
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Posted: Mar 13, 2002 4:24am
I'm stunned that no one mentioned Gary KURTZ's EXCELLENT versions.
You can also find VERY GOOD and offbeat versions by DUVIVIER in "Magie Duvivier" by RACHERBAUMER.
There is also a pretty fine version in CARPENTER's "Modus Operandi".
Someone mentioned the Open travelers plot. One of the best versions of this different effect is by Jean-Jacques SANVERT, it combines ideas from ACKERMAN, DE CAMPS etc., very good indeed.
Hope this helps a bit...
You can find all these routines are worth-buying books/videos... go get 'em
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Paul
Inner circle
A good lecturer at your service!
4206 Posts
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Posted: Mar 13, 2002 1:37pm
Thomas, Bannan's Twilight Zone Assembly is in Impossibilia. He talks about extra cards that only show themselves at certain times. The blank cards appear then you do a standard(?) 4 ace assembly using the blanks rather than aces. Of course some of the display moves you can do with 4 jokers you can do with the blanks so it looks very clean.
Until I actually used it I didn't realize how strongly it played. The "Twilight Zone" nature of it gives it extra appeal.
I believe he has a new book due out this year sometime.
Paul Hallas.
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