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Kh8286 New user 4 Posts |
I'm literally just starting out to become a magician and I need some really good beginner routines. I really want to know how to do the disappearing ketchup bottle trick. Please let me know what tricks I can use and how I can do it. Or, some information on where I can get trick information. Thank you and I hope to keep in touch with some of you guys!
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Sammy the Kid Veteran user Southern Illinois 314 Posts |
What books/videos/dvds do you have? If you haven't got it yet, may I suggest Mark Wilson's Complete Course In Magic. Most major bookstores carry it for around $25. It was the second book I bought several years ago (the first one being Magic for the Complete Klutz)
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Kh8286 New user 4 Posts |
I don't have anything. Like I said. I'm literally just starting out. Is the disappearing ketchup bottle trick in that book, Mark Wilson's Complete Course In Magic? If not, can someone tell me how to do it? I will be buying the book anyway, but if that trick isn't in the book, I need to know how to do it.
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mvmagic Inner circle Has written 1322 Posts |
I don't think anyone will tell you how it is done, as this is not the place to ask for secrets. Whether it is in the book, you'll learn it when you buy it.
It is possible that there's other vanishing ketchup bottles available, but the only one I am aware of (and the best) is Norm Nielsen's bottle. You can buy it from Norm's site: http://www.nnmagic.com/magicitems/vanishingbottlespage.htm
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
You put the Ketchup bottle in the bag say a few magic words and crunch the bag. It's that simple. It works that way for me.
Dennis Michael
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mvmagic Inner circle Has written 1322 Posts |
Dennis, I can't believe you spilled the beans! Oh no... Mine works without the magic words though, but mine is empty so that's propably the reason.
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
Well, I really had to seek out Denny Haney from Denny & Lee, to learn how to do this correctly, (It was really messy the first couple of times) and his fee was $45.00. Not bad for expert training and advice.
Sometimes learning stuff on your own ends up costing more then seeking out the professionals.
Dennis Michael
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Kent Wong Inner circle Edmonton, Alberta, Canada 2458 Posts |
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On 2005-04-13 07:12, mvmagic wrote: Beans? What do beans have to do with disappearing ketchup? By, the way, I tried Dennis' suggestion and it works great. The only thing is he forgot to mention that you need to drill a very small hole in your hand about the same size as the base of the ketchup bottle. Don't worry about the blood .. it's just misdirection for the ketchup!
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
Hole in the hand, Nope, the bag is switched for an empty one but its done so fast and with the help of a little misdirection, is virtually unseen!
Dennis Michael
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Mad Mat New user Norwich, Norfolk, England 90 Posts |
You may be able to find out when you get to 50 posts.
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Frank Tougas Inner circle Minneapolis, MN 1712 Posts |
What these jokers are trying to say is two-fold. First secrets are seldom revealed at the Café except in the section you will be able to access after you have made fifty relevant and helpful postings. Secondly - the Vanishing Ketchup Bottle is a dealer item and would be near impossible for you to make your own version, instead it must be purchased from a dealer. Probably around fifty bucks but a great trick and worth the money.
I hope you are who you say you are, and if so welcome to the magic fraternity. You will find most here including those who have joked with you, extremely helpful. We are however a bit jaded as occasionally a magician signs on as a newbie and asks questions he knows are prohibited by the Café rules, then sits back and laughs at the responses. It is usually handled, when suspected, by getting a lot of goofy responses like drilling a hole in your hand. If you are one of those jokers then I guess I have wasted my time, but if you are new and serious about learning magic, I would hate to scare you off by such comments. Frank Tougas
Frank Tougas The Twin Cities Most "Kid Experienced" Children's Performer :"Creating Positive Memories...One Smile at a Time"
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mvmagic Inner circle Has written 1322 Posts |
Frank is quite right. We've seen so many of these "tell me how its done" threads by newbies that the responses come from almost neural level. No offense.
Neither myself, or Dennis or magicman want to scare you off. Mark's course is an excellent source for a newcomer who's just starting. If you're interested in cards, check all volumes of Card College which is just the best there is and don't forget Tarbell either. You'll find the Café is a great place to be and you'll find tons of advice and make new friends. On my behalf, welcome aboard!
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Kh8286 New user 4 Posts |
Nope, I'm honestly starting out to become a magician. And no, you didn't scare me off. I found it quite amusing. I will let you know of my progress of a growing magician if you care. haha. Thanks for the tips and I will definitely be coming back to this forum again and again.
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calexa Inner circle Germany 1635 Posts |
Start with the Wilson book. If you want to add a nice routine, try "Colour Monte". What type of magic are you interested in? I think that is the first question you should answer for yourself.
Magixx
Optimists have more fun.....
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
Welcome to the Café, and yes, I am one of the "jokesters". The great way to start is through Mark Wilson's book or a simliar book, Learn some basic coin moves, some card moves and stuff done with household items. Read a lot of the posts here to determine what tricks suit you.
This will usually let you know if this is what you really want to do. I had Tarbell's volume one and learned the miser's dream from the coin moves I practiced. I put the moves together forming a routine and it looked pretty good. My first purchases were 20th Century Silks, Coin through glass, Milk Pitcher, and a paddle trick. There should be a SYM (Society of Young Magicians) near you, so look them up and you will be amazed how fast you will learn. Also Check out every library for magic books. Its easy and cheap way to get started.
Dennis Michael
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vanilla192 New user Ottawa, Canada 94 Posts |
I think a simple Ambitious card routine is very effective even if your only using simple sleights like DL's. All you need is a sharpie and some bikes and you can perform for hours just doing variations of the same few moves. I would suggest card college, or if you don't like reading you get a movie like crash course both of which you can buy at ellusionist.com.
I'm my personal opinion, the videos at ellusionist are prety expensive for the amount of material you get, but card college is totally worth it, they teach you every thing you need to know about card sleights However if your not into cards, I would suggest a TT along with the book 101 TT tricks. A TT is a must have for any magician alowing you to perform countless vanshishes and other cool stuff I Think an ACR and a few TT vanishes is a good start, that's how I did anyways. good luck! Vanilla |
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jimroady New user 26 Posts |
Hi Kh8286, or can we call you "K"? There are a number of great books available from Amazon for very low prices, especially considering the amount of information they contain. My own recommendations, in addition to the Mark Wilso Course would be: 1)Bobo's Modern Coin Magic, where you can find more information on coin manipulation than in any other source. 2)Expert at the card table by S.W. Erdnase. This is the well from which modern card magic is derived. 3)The Royal Road to Card Magic, which teaches many useful tricks and skills necessary for performing some more advanced effects later. All of these books can be purchased for less than $15.00 each and the information to be derived is priceless. Build a sound foundation in basic skills and you will have a much easier time as you grow in magic.
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Fiddling-Steve Loyal user Danbury, Connecticut 212 Posts |
Limroady has 3 great books you should definately buy. For a begginer I've heard born to perform is good, I think its very basic so check it out.
Stick to the classics,
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blueboy7948 New user UK 61 Posts |
My advice would also be to get the Mark Wilson book (I got mine from my college library of all places) and read through the different sections and see what interests you, then maybe go for a book like Card College andor royal road to card magic if it's cards or Bobos modern coin magic if its coins you fancy.
In short get something general and see what you like - most of all have fun and enjoy it. Put the time into practice and get out there and perform your miracles for people. |
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Parson Smith Inner circle 1937 Posts |
Kh8286,
There are many different ways to make a ketchup bottle disappear. If you read the books suggested here, you will learn how to do it. There is also a book called The Magic Book by Harry Lorayne that has a method that you could adapt. Good luck and hang in there. Peace, Parson UPDATE: Kh8286, After reconsideration, I think that you should use DenDowhy's method. When you finish, be sure and send him the bag so that he can use it in his next show. BTW, Dennis, this got me to thinking. Do you use an eggbeater in your show? Peace, Gary
Here kitty, kitty,kitty.
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