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Peo Olsson
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Just out of curiosity, If the 1st edition of Greater Magic, and the 1994 Kaufman & Greenberg reprint of Greater Magic (now OOP), would be sold on the open market (NOT on eBay), what would the differance in prize be, anyone?

btw, Im a happy owner of the 1994 reprint, which I quickly bought as soon I heard it was comming out. This bible of magic, is one of my 3 favourite magic books of all time.
Nope, Im note gonna tell which ones the two others are Smile

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I'm with you on this being a great book, one of my favorites too. I also purchased it as soon as I could when it came out.
I thought the original Greater Magic was several volumes?
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Peo Olsson
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As far as I know, please correct me if I'm wrong, GM has always been only just one book, but beeing changed and improved up on.

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If I'm not mistaken, Greater Magic was reprinted as the "Greater Magic Library", which was split into multiple volumes. Someone advised me once AGAINST purchasing the multiple volume version, but for the life of me I can't remember why. I do remember that it was a substantive reason beyond "they'll take up extra space."

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Curiously, when I searched several of my sources for old books, the Kaufman and Greenberg reprint was ~$500 more expensive than a genuine first edition of Greater Magic.

Maybe there were fewer Kaufman and Greenberg copies printed than original copies!? I don't really understand the reasoning behind this.
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I believe that the Kaufman reprint has about 250 pages of extra material from John Northern Hilliard's private notes and other sources. To my mind that still doesn't account for the price difference. I have an older edition of Greater Magic, but not a lst editon . It's a great book.

I would definitely buy the Kaufman version if I came across one at a price I could afford. I've been told it's too expensive to reprint it again (not enough market demand apparently) but if that's the case then I hope they will consider putting it out as CD-Rom . I'm generally not a fan of CD-roms or ebooks over "real" books , but if it's unavailable in any other way I'd rather have the CD-rom than nothing.
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Magic books by post have new copies of the reprint...
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If you don't have it already, GET IT NOW! I guarantee that you won't regret it.
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I had the great blessing of getting the Kaufman repront as a door prize at an FCM convention in Everett, Washington in the mid '90's. It is a wonderful tome, and one of my most-treasured volumes.

Peo, the difference in price would be wholly subjective, based simply on supply and demand, as well as the seller's willingness or lack thereof to part with it. Regardless, the material inside is well worth virtually any asking price. I've often said that, if you could only have ONE magic book, this would be a good choice.
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Peo Olsson
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On 2005-04-26 20:24, Scott F. Guinn wrote:
...I've often said that, if you could only have ONE magic book, this would be a good choice.


Scott my friend, I could not agree with you more there. You took the very words out of my mouth.The perfect magic litterature on a deserted island.

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I have the five hard bound volume set. It is much easier to use than the big book. I paid $3.50 for each book in the early 60s. Still one of the best books out.
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I also love this book.
There is a great trick in there called "The tuned deck"
Check it out.
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As an interesting side note a friend of mine recently sold an expurgated copy of greater magic for around $1000. When he told me about it I had to laugh. Carl Jones, the publisher, had 50 copies made for his non magic friends with all the magic secrets removed. It had the introduction and history of magic from the beginning of the book but, after that, every page was blank.

I'm not sure what a first edition is worth right now but it's hard to believe anyone would pay $1000 for a copy without the magic.

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I have an original as well as the Kaufmann reprint.The 1st I paid $125.00 for in the late 70's but the price has never seemed to increase over the years. I do not believe it would sell for $1,000.00, if so mine is for sale.However I do agree Greater Magic is in my top 10 list of favorite books.
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On 2005-04-25 22:56, Peo Olsson wrote:
This bible of magic, is one of my 3 favourite magic books of all time.
Nope, Im note gonna tell which ones the two others are Smile

Peo


Peo, I had to wait five years to find out your two others ;-)
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The original Hilliard Greater Magic went through several printings. I have a vague recollection that the 3rd edition is more valuable than the 1st due to numbers printed. Can any book collectors confirm this? Or am I suffering from False memory Syndrome? Smile

The card sections were reprinted later as a separate book called "Hilliard's Card Magic"

When Richard Kaufman reprinted the book, complete with additional chapters, he also had 50 expurgated copies printed (see David Nelson's post above for an explanation of what this is). I have never seen an original expurgated edition, but I have one of the Kaufman ones. As most of the book is blank, any high price paid for one would surely only be by a serious collector.

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Just my two cents:

Greater Magic
First ed. published in 1938 under title: Greater Magic.

Greater Magic Library
5 volume set published in 1956 by A.S. Barnes, New York. Sold for $3.00 per volume.

Copyright 1938, 1942, 1945, 1947, 1956 (my guess this is also the years of publication)
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