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bry1513
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Any plans or books that describe the make up of a floating table?.......

Thanks for all of your work and help

Bry
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Bry;
There are many different methods/styles of the floating table.

Some that require a specific table and gimmicks, and others that can use a regular card table.

You can find a great floating table at Owens magic, as well as another at Stevens magic.

It all depends on the effect that you are looking to acheive.

Matt
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I checked all the other posts where people have asked this same question but I never saw a half way decent answer besides, "don't bother, just buy one." I didn't know if there was anything out there in plan form or in a book that explains the techniques clearly.......

Thanks, Bry
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There are currently no plans for the various floating table effects on the market at this time.....To the best of my knowledge, there aren't any in the works either.

Are you just curious as to the methods or do you have "Plans" (pun intended) to construct one?
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I'm just curious to the methods so I can design my own......I'm no dummy, I've owned zomies for years, I just want to know the exact specifics of the designs.....

Take care, Bry
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Bry,
It just so happens I come across the lossander video on the web and saw him performing the floating table effect.
After reading some older threads on the magic Café a began to investigate a little as to the workings as I must admit lossander does a nice performance of the floating table and I wouldnt mind putting this in my own act.sorry I cant remember the exact location.It was probably his own site.
Anyway after a few searches I realized either somebody is making a fortune out of these or I come from mars!!!
I am buy profession a carpenter/joiner also a magician.Put these together and yes youve guessed it a floating table for about £20.
OK your not to give away secrets here but come on, wood that has the weight of cardboard zombie gimmick and a small lightweight magnet for the second effect, DOH!!!
Hey Presto a floating table for £1000 less materials £20 I can knock them out for £980 profit.
Poof !!!!

Make that http://www.losander.com
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On 2005-06-28 17:43, dan bivaldi wrote:
Bry,
It just so happens I come across the lossander video on the web and saw him performing the floating table effect.
After reading some older threads on the magic Café a began to investigate a little as to the workings as I must admit lossander does a nice performance of the floating table and I wouldnt mind putting this in my own act.


You should say, Losander does a nice performance of LOSANDER'S FLOATING TABLE. I don't want to start a flame war here, and a search of the Café shows that this has been discussed at length, but I think it is important to point out that the idea of using this method in this way for this effect belongs to Losander and the fact that he can sell it to professional magicians for a good price just shows the value of the overall package.

To put this argument in another way, I know how to run a CD burner and I can get blank CDs for under a buck a piece, consequently, I can get rich in the music business by burning all of the most popular CDs and just pocketing the extra $14-$15.

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Richard

Isn't it amazing how often someone wants to make a buck on some ripoff of someone elses work. Even sadder is the number of magicians willing to look the other way. One of the newer sponsors of the Café is now manufacturing a ripoff of the Losander table. Shame, Shame!

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There are at least two companies making floating tables(aside Losander)so are they legitimate or ripoffs?
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There are other tables that use different methods of levitation. When I use the term "rip off " I'm talking about the ones that use the Wonder/Losander method of levitation.

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Don't forget chaps you say the losander/wonder method of floating table,you really mean the variation of an original method used many years ago.Lets face it the gimmick is years old neither of them invented it.The gimmick they use is a slieght variation on someone elses.
making your own cd's for a few bucks is a bit different to making a grand.
I have looked at these table pics close up and believe me they ain't no chippendale.
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Sorry....we've heard this one before. Just another lame excuse to rip someone off. If the idea is so old then why didn't you start building tables long ago? You had to see losanders effect before you came up with the idea.

If you owned a table you'd know that its no ordinary gimmick. It features several variations that make it different enought to be called original.
No offence but it there's one thing I've learned its that when someone wants to copy someone elses work the will do whatever they can to justify it.

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OBVIOUSLY IVE SEEN THE FLOATING TABLE MANY TIMES !!!
Not just the Losander.the reason I havent thought of making one before is because ive been doing other things.
Just get any magic dvd today and you can bet that someone else is claiming the rights for this and that effect.I see so many dvds now where the magician says "i did this before so and so magician but he says he did it before me but anyhow"they just cant face its someone elses idea.
don't defend magicians who copy ideas from long ago and claim them to be theirs.
I take it when all you magicians that go to magic clubs and the like,Do you all sit there and say I cant show you how I do that because its on a dvd and you will have to buy the dvd.How many times have I heard this.
this is a magic club for magicians.Laypeople don't bother with sites like this.
so come on get into the magic club spirit.
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On 2005-06-29 15:41, dan bivaldi wrote:
the reason I havent thought of making one before is because ive been doing other things.
Just get any magic dvd today and you can bet that someone else is claiming the rights for this and that effect.

this is a magic club for magicians.Laypeople don't bother with sites like this.
so come on get into the magic club spirit.


Hey ya, Hey ya, Hey ya...step right up folks and rip off your fellow magician..its the magic club spirit after all.

By the way...can you tell us just which magician claims to have invented this effect/method before Wonder/Losander ? I didn't think so.

Nathan
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No one has ever floated a table before with the use of this gimmick or idea...Why don't you just float something different...look at Mr. Nielsen and his elegant violin?
Create something different to float and then claim originality, is what I say.
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Ahhhhhhhhh! ORIGINALITY!!! How refreshing! There's a boy who's going places. Good for you.

Nathan
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Just pay your $1000 and take your pick.
No thanks I will go on ebay and get a pack of balsa wood for £10 and start making!!!
ye ha round em up son.
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By the way get some old magic books and you will be surprised at what effects and slieghts have been claimed from.
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Dan,

Why stop there? Why waste time on the small items. Why not build a few Blaney Levitations ..and how bout an Origami? Much bigger bucks in those illusions. People were levitated and pierced long before the likes of Blaney or Stenimeyer.

Nathan
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Its not a question of building everything I can.I just thought I would like to include the floating table principle into my act.Upon seeing the price for such a thing I was amazed at what people would pay for such a cheaply made item.
I am not on the band wagon of ripping evry magic effect off because I think they are too pricy,I just am not going to pay £1000 pounds for what has a value of just a fraction of that.
Anyway big items are a different thing,Although he origami could easily be built if you wanted that sort of illusion,Nathan you need 2 people for this I don't know if you know this.Hence these 2 people illusions would not suit my act.
Nathan can you honestly say that you havent sent for a magic item and when you open it you think s**t what a piece a junk.
Perfect spoon bend ?
Fearsons Instant vanish ?
Psycho-logicoin 2 ?

I could go on

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Dan,

Firstly I have to thank you for keeping this thread civil and not letting it turn into some sort of battle of the flames. This is a hot topic and that does happen quite easily. In the past I've gotten into some real name-calling dozeys and then when the heat died down found that the person on the other end really wasn't such a bad guy and we became friends.

Yes...we've all bought junk and felt ripped off....BUT the Losander Table is not junk but rather a work of art. I don't own one but I've seen one up close and greatly admire the craftmanship that went into it. Its also a clever prop and some day when I can afford one I'll make sure to get an "Original Losander."

Nathan
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