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Juble
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I've recently been experimenting with this revelation (from Expert @ the Card Table) but can't seem to get the card to flip over consistently...just wondering if anyone had any tips?

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PaulGreen
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Hi,

I use this all the time. Practice is the key here. You must develop sense or touch that will provide the results you wish. Instead of letting gravity provide the motivation, I have found that if you give the packet a gentle push, the card will turnover more consistently. Once you have the knack, you will find success.

BTW, learn to do it with both hands for double reveals.

Enjoy the search!

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Paul Green
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Its been a while since I've done that revelation, but I had a lot of success with it holding a verdnase break under the top card.

The double reveals idea is a pretty good one, I'll have to try it out.
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I've been having a lot of truble with this trick also and still cand get the card to flip over correctly, it flips over sometimes but the other times the whole deck just scatters on the floor.
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On 2005-07-16 09:33, PaulGreen wrote:
Hi,

I use this all the time. Practice is the key here. You must develop sense or touch that will provide the results you wish. Instead of letting gravity provide the motivation, I have found that if you give the packet a gentle push, the card will turnover more consistently. Once you have the knack, you will find success.

BTW, learn to do it with both hands for double reveals.

Enjoy the search!

Regards,

Paul Green



And that's all you need to know! Like how to get to Carnegie Hall. Practice, practice, practice!

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I found more consistant results with not so much as a drop but a gentle toss, with a distance of between ten to twelve inches. But it is something you get a feel for.

Paul.
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On 2005-07-16 17:22, Paul wrote:
I found more consistant results with not so much as a drop but a gentle toss, with a distance of between ten to twelve inches. But it is something you get a feel for.

Paul.


Isn't that what I said?????

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Paul (another Paul) Green
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If you think (APT) is difficult try the Flippant Move by Looy Simonoff.
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SIX
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Is that revalation that Richard Osterlind used on one of the MIND MYSTERIES VIDEOS?
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On 2005-07-16 17:22, Paul wrote:
I found more consistant results with not so much as a drop but a gentle toss, with a distance of between ten to twelve inches. But it is something you get a feel for.

Paul.


Isn't that what I said?????

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Paul (another Paul) Green


Lol, now I went back and read yours again, yes it is! I must read your posts more carefully Paul, it will save me even more typing. Smile
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Maybe try grabbing the whole deck iun the biddle-gripo and toss it to the other hand about 10 times to get a feel for it. That should keep at least the deck from scattering on the floor.

As far as the revelation, just thumb the card over about an inch to the right, then toss it the same way you did when you were just practicing. At that point, the only way to become consistent is to just find the correct distance for the toss between your hands to get the revolution. It will be different for most everyone since you're not really relying on technical aspects as much as you are knackiness.
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On 2005-07-16 18:31, SIX wrote:
Is that revalation that Richard Osterlind used on one of the MIND MYSTERIES VIDEOS?
SIX


No, the one on the Mind Mysteries DVD is in one of Frank Garcia's books.
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Also experiement with the amount of card that's pushed over. I usually have to push it over about half the width while some people seem to be able to get it much smaller.

The surface you drop the deck on matters too. Hard and flat is better.
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Where in Expert at the Card table is it? Can't find it, which page?
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Juble
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Thanks guys for the feedback...I'm going to keep practicing it, I'm slowly getting there and can get it to work about 50% of the time using a very gentle pushing action and pushing the card over about 2/3rds of an inch (Erdnase recommends about 1/2). I can't remember the page no but it comes under the methods for favourite ways to terminate tricks.

Cheers again all.

Justin
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Where in Expert at the Card table is it? Can't find it, which page?


108 of the Dover edition. Its called "The Revolution"

Hope this helps,

Bill
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Marlo has some advice regarding this move to make it sure-fire. I've found it to be a very reliable solution personally. Basically, before you do the move, in a continous motion, push the top card over and clip it between your right third and fourth fingers as in the clip steal, then, with the card slightly sidejogged, drop it and let go of the clipped card at the same time, and it should turn over as per erdnase.

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I know people have mentioned it already, but the distance you push the card over seems to have the most effect for me. For me, less is more. About 1/2 an inch is perfect, any more and it goes off course or won't flip at all. Good luck.
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I find if I hold the pack in the left hand and push over the card with left thumb till it hits the first line on a pack of bicyles, while I cover that with the right hand in the act of gripping the cards and then just drop the pack onto the table it flips easily back onto the pack,the height depends on what works best for you.
Erik J
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Found it now, hmm, just tried it, worked 9/10 times, maybe luck?
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