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seandixie
Regular user
105 Posts
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Posted: Jul 16, 2005 2:29pm
Hi, I was thinking about all the effects I can and do perform and I realised that they all have either double or triple lifts involved including the colour monte(of a sort)
Could anyone put together a short routine, say four/five tricks without using a double/triple lift?
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Charlie Justice
Inner circle
Mount Dora, Florida
1039 Posts
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Posted: Jul 16, 2005 2:37pm
I'm rather certain that hundreds of us could, have, and do from time to time. Not just 4 or 5 but dozens and dozens of effects as well.
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Jordini
Inner circle
San Francisco
2754 Posts
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Posted: Jul 16, 2005 3:06pm
Dozens, try hundreds......
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Oscar Wilde
"If you only knew the hours I spent just thinking about practicing"
-The Amazing Jonathan
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Dannydoyle
Eternal Order
10981 Posts
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Posted: Jul 16, 2005 3:29pm
Easily. As a matter of fact most of the tricks I use don't even utilise a double.
Card in the matchbook, card under tablecloth, card under glass, signed cards in the hands, card on the ceiling, card to wallet.
I guess the real point is that the double lift, while a great move, is no where near essential to great card magic.
Good Luck
Danny
Danny Doyle
Semper Occultus
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Charlie Justice
Inner circle
Mount Dora, Florida
1039 Posts
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Posted: Jul 16, 2005 4:31pm
Quote:
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On 2005-07-16 15:06, Jordini wrote:
Dozens, try hundreds......
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If you actually know 'hundreds' of card effects more power to you.
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evolve629
Inner circle
A stack of
3833 Posts
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Posted: Jul 16, 2005 6:53pm
If you own 30 dvds on card magic, then you would know about 300 magic tricks with different techniques. DL is such a basic technique that I'm sure it's a common move with cardicians. I have about 80 dvds, so I think I really do see hundreds of DL card effects incoperate into the effects.
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dragonchaos91
Loyal user
225 Posts
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Posted: Jul 16, 2005 8:12pm
I don't see why you wouldnt want to use the double lift. Its so deceptive, but if you really do want a non dl routine, I would pick up Easy To Master Card Miracles by Michael Ammar. A great percentage of the effects taught on these dvds do not require the dl. Tricks like Untouched by Daryl and Your Signed Card by Bro. John Hamman.
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Suave Dan
Special user
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
648 Posts
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Posted: Jul 16, 2005 9:10pm
I could easily create a short routine of four tricks that don't use a double lift.
1. Biddle Trick
2. Card To Wallet
3. Color Changing Deck
4. My Ungimmicked Invisible Deck Trick
*takes a bow*
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gandalf
Veteran user
UK
310 Posts
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Posted: Jul 17, 2005 10:21am
My short routine would include:
- card to wallet
- I Should have done that myself (bill Malone)
- Queens out of control (packet trick)
- Out of this world
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seandixie
Regular user
105 Posts
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Posted: Jul 17, 2005 1:39pm
Ok, guess I didn't think hard enough! As I can't palm the 'card to' effects just don't register!
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Elliott Hodges
Veteran user
England
302 Posts
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Posted: Jul 17, 2005 4:08pm
My routine: errrr I dunno-some of my most powerful effects use double lifts.
Do as I do.
21 card trick
have you seen it yet?
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mickey.w
Loyal user
HK
283 Posts
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Posted: Jul 18, 2005 3:48pm
OOTW?
-Lennart Green's "Rainman"
-Oil and water (3000 versions and counting)
-triumph
SO ON.
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Chris Keppel
Special user
Kansas City MO
548 Posts
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Posted: Jul 18, 2005 4:40pm
If I bust out a crazy coin trick does that count
hhaha
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Jessiah
Inner circle
J E S S E S M A G I C
1039 Posts
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Posted: Jul 18, 2005 8:24pm
Check out mark masons flying low... it has some of that stuff!
http://www.jessesmagic.com
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Fiddling-Steve
Loyal user
Danbury, Connecticut
212 Posts
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Posted: Jul 19, 2005 3:10pm
You can do entire ACR without a double lift. Just sitting here I remembered 10 sleights in an ACR that don't use DLs.
I think anything accomplished by a double lift can somehow be accomplished without one... that's my theory.
Stick to the classics,
Stephen
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kruel
Regular user
Winnipeg, MB Canada
142 Posts
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Posted: Jul 19, 2005 3:48pm
A cleverly timed, and well executed, Top Change can replace a DL most of the time.
Regards,
Greg Hues
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Jeff Corn
Inner circle
Las Vegas
1176 Posts
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Posted: Jul 20, 2005 2:13am
If you want good card magic without using a Double Lift at all, look at Eugene Burger's work. He came for a lecture a few months ago and mentioned that he never performs a Double Lift. It just doesn't look natural to him.
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Francis Cambridge
New user
61 Posts
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Posted: Jul 20, 2005 2:56am
I love that one Dai Vernon did that fooled Houdini. Very pretty and amazing effect lol
Camby
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Samuel
Special user
Norway
824 Posts
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Posted: Jul 20, 2005 12:54pm
And, one could of course use a tripple lift 
Samuel
The illusion created in your hands is the reality in the specators head!
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barnzee
New user
united kingdom
17 Posts
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Posted: Jul 21, 2005 5:55am
The double lift is only one sleight out of a list of thousands .there are huge amounts of effects that can be obtained without it.even tricks that utilise it can be done without it- use a top change!
and as for the routine...
1.4 ace triumph
2.asher twist (with the 4 aces) to show them turning over one at a time.
3.david blaines ace shake.
so on and so forth...
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Everything is ok in the end, so if it's not ok then it's not the end.
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