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Dan Watkins

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Posted: Aug 17, 2005 5:46pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dan Watkins  

Hi Everyone,

I am posting this here because really anyone who would care about this news would be those that frequent the "Show Me the Money" forum (definitely not "Pick a Card Any Card" forum!)

I know many of you on this forum asked me to keep you informed when my DVD was coming out. I just got word from Bob Kohler Productions (you can see his banner ad for it further down on the main page) that it will be September 5, 2005.

It is called Coin Man Walking. It is all coin magic, all strolling/walk-around material with no tables required.

I am not going to type out an advertisement here, so if you want to find out more, head to my web site.

Thanks for your interest.

Dan

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KirkG

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Posted: Aug 17, 2005 5:54pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of KirkG  

Those that already have his Coinvanish 2 book, need no further encouragement.

Kirk
Mb217

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Posted: Aug 17, 2005 9:38pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Mb217  

Sounds really good Dan. I'm sure it will do well.

Good to see you've included two of my favorites from your repertoire, Lightning C/S and the very cute Double-Take Transpo. They are great little quickies that really get big responses, especially Double-Take as it happens in the spec's hands...easy to do and truly a wonderful little C/S routine. Seems like there will be a lot on this DVD - Good shoot!

Hey Dan, good to see you've included two of my favorites from your repertoire, Lightning C/S and the very cute Double-Take Transpo. They are great little quickies that really get big responses, especially Double-Take as it happens in the spec's hands...easy to do and truly a wonderful little C/S routine. Seems like there will be a lot on this DVD - Good shoot!

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Dan Watkins

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Posted: Aug 18, 2005 4:18pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dan Watkins  

Thanks Marion. I perform “Double Take Transposition, Flash Hop, and Lightning Copper Silver” as a complete Copper/Silver set in the performance (I segue immediately from one routine to the other).

You are obviously familiar with “Double Take” and “Lightning C/S.” “Flash Hop” is similar to “Barley Hop” from Coinvanish Volume 2, however I wanted to have a more practical final load than the little beer mug. The mug was too context sensitive. The bill production works for a greater range of venues. I teach how to make the bill fold step by step on the DVD as well.

The other routine on the DVD I would consider a "quickie" is "Breaking A Dollar". This is unpublished, quick, and does not use any gaffs. This is a very simple routine, but it looks great.

The other routines are a little longer and more structured. I obviously like all the routines (go figure)

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GeorgeSantos

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Posted: Aug 22, 2005 1:07am    Reply with quote   View Profile of GeorgeSantos  

Nice one Dan! Definitely what I'm looking for, stand up no table required.

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paisa23

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Posted: Sep 3, 2005 12:06am    Reply with quote   View Profile of paisa23  

I love his books and already pre-ordered his DVD. I'm just curious as to when when they will ship. And DAN thanks again for recommending Schoolcraft. I love my new and first coins.

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Posted: Sep 3, 2005 9:39am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Mb217  

Told'ya...

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Dan Watkins

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Posted: Sep 3, 2005 11:26am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dan Watkins  

Bob Kohler told me yesterday that the DVDs were done and mine were being shipped to me DHL. Considering that Monday the 5th is a holiday, I am expecting my batch will arrive Tuesday.

I plan on shipping all my orders Tuesday if I get them early enough or if they arrive late, on Wednesday.

I'll be emailing everyone that ordered one when your order ships. Thanks again for everyone who pre-ordered a copy.

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Mb217

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Posted: Sep 3, 2005 12:54pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Mb217  

Hey Dan, if you don't mind, could you explain the process in creating a dvd? I know Kohler would be the producer and you the talent, but how is it divied-up. Are there contracts and lawyers involved, royalties, etc. Just trying to understand better. Thanks.

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rannie

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Posted: Sep 3, 2005 2:25pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of rannie  

All the best Dan. I loved your work in coinvention!

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Dan Watkins

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Posted: Sep 3, 2005 4:30pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dan Watkins  

Marion,

I am not sure what every arrangement is, but in my case it was pretty simple:

Kohler asked if I wanted to come to Vegas to shoot a DVD. He told me the terms and compensation, etc. I agreed, flew to Vegas and he shot the the material.

Bob pretty much does everything from there. Editing, paying for duplication, cover design, etc. He owns the copyright on the DVD.

Essentially, I perform my material in front of a camera, he does everything else necessary to bring it to market including all the financial investment.

As to the actual contract, I am sure it varies from producer to producer. How much you get paid per DVD, etc.

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Mb217

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Posted: Sep 3, 2005 4:44pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Mb217  

Thanks Dan...sounds pretty straight forward. Hey, it sounds like Bob is actually doing the shooting himself? Or is it a thing with a director, or a camera man that is used to shooting magical subjects? Interesting.

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Dan Watkins

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Posted: Sep 3, 2005 7:51pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dan Watkins  

There are three cameras in his studio. He operates one camera and he had two other camera operators to film my performances. Bob is a pro, very knowledgable in what he does. Filming is just part of it. There is also lighting, sound, editing, etc, it all takes knowledge to do right. He can do it all. It is also good to have someone of his caliber to produce the DVD because he has an excellent eye for good magic. He is also one of the most talented magcians I know.

There is no director. The cameras roll and I start performing or teaching.

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Mb217

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Posted: Sep 3, 2005 8:56pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Mb217  

Sounds like a winner Dan. I see so many dvds out there now as a lot of folks are able to do their own simple enough, some good, some not as good but all have value as I've never seen one that you couldn't learn at least something from. It's all good and the more the merrier. Thanks for your comments and best of luck with this new offering.

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Mike Wild

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Posted: Sep 5, 2005 12:11pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Mike Wild  

Congatulations Dan! Another instant classic I'm sure.

I look forward to taking a look at your new material very soon.

Best,

Mike

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Bob Kohler

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Posted: Sep 5, 2005 1:49pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Bob Kohler  

Greetings,
Dan has been a good friend of mine for the last few years. He's one of the best of the new breed of coinworker on the planet.

It was a blast working with Dan on "Coin Man Walking." He's really done his research. He's read virtually everything ever written on coins. He knows the history better than I do. But this knowledge also gave Dan an incredible foundation to build his new routines and to polish them to a very high standard.

His routines have been thought out using the best moves for each application and they have been choreographed so that there is no wasted motion. Every move has a reason.

There's something here for all levels of coin workers. The material is aimed at situations where you don't have a table to work on. But both beginners and experts will find a wealth of information. Even if you don't use any of the routines on the DVD, Dan's finesse will bring your coin work to a higher leve. But you will use Dan's routines. The material is very direct and absolutely usable. You will get fooled when you watch the performances just like your audiences'. Remember a fooled audience is a good audience.

Dan's detailed explanations leave nothing to the imagination. Nothing is left out..except the explanation for Dan's version of the Ramsay classic "Cylinder & Coins." It's performance only, but you'll love trying to figure this one out. I've shown it to some very informed magicians, no one has figured it out yet!

All of the other routines are explained in full with a level of instruction that rivals personal lessons. They are crystal clear. If you don't understand this DVD you may want to consider getting out of magic.

While all of the routines are excellant, two really stand out to me.
"OutsDanding/Fingertip Coins To Pocket" are two routines that flow naturally together to create a full circle routine. Dan combines the work of Troy Hooser and Cris Korn in a diabolical way that creates one of the most visual coin routines you'll ever perform. Dan's handling makes it very easy to do.

My other favorite is "Four Coins, Your Hands." No doubt this will be an instant classic. It's so easy to do my mother could do it. BUT the spectator reaction to this incredible, visual routine is over the top. It's the first coins across routine that happens in both of the spectators hands. Once you see it, you'll have to do it. I worked it up a few months ago and since then I keep it in my pocket all of the time. It's hard to believe something this powerful is this easy to do.
I worked for years on the tough coin moves, this makes me feel like I wasted my time. It's perfect for both stand up, walk a round or table hopping.

All of the inner circle coin men have known about Dan's expertise but with the release of "Coin Man Walking" the rest of the magic community will soon know why
Dan Watkins is considered to be one of the very best coin workers in the world today.

Jaz

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Posted: Sep 5, 2005 2:15pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Jaz  

What gaffs, if any, are required for all 9 effects.
PM me if necessary.
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Dan Watkins

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Posted: Sep 5, 2005 3:00pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dan Watkins  

Whew Bob... that was one heck of a compliment, I think too much to live up to!

I am not quite as well read on the coin material as you may think! I try to be as knowledable as possible, but I haven't read everything there is on coins... I have just try to do my homework on the routines I perform. I really leaned on Wesley James for his wealth of crediting information for my books which a chunk of my DVD material comes from. Curtis Kam has also helped on history.

I hope everyone likes that material as much as you did!

Dan

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Jaz

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Posted: Sep 5, 2005 3:52pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Jaz  

Thanks Dan.


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Posted: Sep 5, 2005 3:55pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of 2003 user  

Hope HP can delivery it to me on tomorrow.
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Posted: Sep 5, 2005 4:45pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Mediocre the Great  

I saw Dan at Coinvention a few years back and watched him ask tons of questions while taking copious notes. He is a virtual sponge for coin magic knowledge. His Coinvanish books are wonderful. They are clearly written, easy to understand, thoroughly thought out, and well illustrated.

I can't wait to get his new DVD!


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Larry Barnowsky

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Posted: Sep 5, 2005 4:57pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Larry Barnowsky  

Dan,
Best of luck with your new DVD. It sounds great. I only have your first Coinvanish book but from that alone I know the material in the DVD will be top notch.
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Posted: Sep 6, 2005 7:44am    Reply with quote   View Profile of joseph  

Any other effects on the dvd "performance only", and maybe the cylinder and coins will be explained in a future dvd?....

"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Einstein)...
Dan Watkins

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Posted: Sep 6, 2005 11:46am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dan Watkins  

Joseph,

As Bob wrote above, the only “performance only” routine is Cylinder & Coins. It’s a bonus routine that is only a 2:30 min long. All the other routines are spelled out in extreme detail.

Honestly, I never intended to put the Cylinder routine on the DVD. The focus of the DVD is all walk-around coin magic that does not use tables. Most of the magic is designed to be interactive with your spectators – often having the magic occur in their own hands.

Cylinder & Coins does not fit any of those categories. It is a more formal close up routine performed behind a table.

So why is it there?

When I first met Bob Kohler several years ago one of the routines I saw him perform was his Cylinder & Coins routine. He has one of the best versions I have ever seen. At the time I was not too familiar with the plot, and it fooled me pretty bad. I could follow bits and pieces but I could not put it all together.

The routine had two big things that attracted me to it: 1. It’s Coins. 2. It fooled me bad.

So I spent the last several years thinking about the routine and working on solutions. I have more hours of practice in this one routine alone than any other coin routine in my repertoire. It has been a fun project to work on and the routine has taught me a lot. I have put together several versions of the routine. Each of them have strong points and weaknesses.

So… eventually I showed Bob my current favorite version of the routine. It is a very streamlined approach that strips the routine down to its essential components. My focus was to make the vanish sequence as direct and deceptive as I could, and have the productions seemingly come out of nowhere and hit at a rapid fire pace.

I do not want to teach this routine, especially since this plot is a pet project of mine and a constant work in progress. However, Bob really liked the routine I showed him and thought that I should let everyone see it, so he talked me into putting it on the DVD as a bonus performance only item.

Now contrary to Bob’s post above, I really don’t particularly want people to “try to figure it out.” I know as magicians we all try to do that - if you must, please don't post about it, keep it to yourself. My purpose was to share a routine that I have spent a lot of time working on, and that I really enjoy performing. My hope is that people will enjoy the performance and that it adds something special to the DVD.

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MICKEY SILVER

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Posted: Sep 7, 2005 4:11am    Reply with quote   View Profile of MICKEY SILVER  

Dan's detailed explanations leave nothing to the imagination. Nothing is left out..except the explanation for Dan's version of the Ramsay classic "Cylinder & Coins." It's performance only, but you'll love trying to figure this one out. I've shown it to some very informed magicians, no one has figured it out yet.,,,SAID BOB KOHLER!! ...........Well!! Mr. Kohler is right!!!!!

In Vegas a few weeks ago while hanging out with Bob Kohler a few days, I had the privilege of a sneak preview in Bob's unbelievable production studio. I watched in extreme detail the "Coin Man Walking DVD". I absolutely loved Dan performing his Ramsay classic "Cylinder & Coins". ....Let's just say I am one of those guy's still trying to figure it out..lol.

I just wanted to pass this along to all my friends in coin magic: No matter ,weather your a beginner or expert........the 'COIN MAN WALKING" DVD is a "MUST HAVE" for anyone and everyone who is serious about coin magic. I was absolutely impressed how fantastic and creative Dan really is, as I'm sure you will be . His coin routines are flawless along with his "explanations" you will not believe your eyes / ears!!

Guys take it from me !!! honestly ,when it comes to outstanding coin magic, I can't say enough about it.

If your into coin magic as I am and really want to see one of the best / not to mention learn from one of the best.........Dan Watkins "ALL NEW" COIN MAN WALKING DVD is the way to go.

For those of you who know me ....you guy's know I saw nothing I can't back up....

By the way Dan, Congratulations and good luck on your new DVD. You can count me in for buying one.....DAM IT Dan! I have to see your " Cylinder & Coin" routine again...It's killing me..lol.lol


MICKEY SILVER
Simon Bakker

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Posted: Sep 7, 2005 6:25am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Simon Bakker  

I can't wait till this one drops in the mail.
I own the coinvanish booklets, and like them a lot.
especially, 4 coins your hands is a very appealling routine.

Dan, congrats on this fantastic project
Dan Watkins

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Posted: Sep 7, 2005 9:26am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dan Watkins  

Thank you for the kind words on what you saw Mickey. One never knows how his material will be recieved by the community when you put it on video for the world to see and critique. It is comforting to hear the good comments from those who have seen it. Soon everyone who orders one will get the chance to see it as well!

I spoke to David Roth yesterday who also viewed a pre-release copy. He also really enjoyed the DVD. He gave me a quote to use for my marketing. What an honor.

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Posted: Sep 7, 2005 4:37pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of canaday  

If this is good enough for Mickey, I want in! I've always enjoyed Dan's work. It should be a joy to see the video.
Dan Watkins

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Posted: Sep 7, 2005 5:03pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dan Watkins  

I just got my shipment of DVDs and have shipped out all the pre-orders. If you haven't already placed an order, head on over to www.coinvanish.com and I'll be happy to send your copy with free shipping via 1st Class USPS in the domestic US.

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Posted: Sep 7, 2005 5:08pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of paisa23  

Boy I'm telling you 1st Class USPS and free this is our kinda guy huh!!! Thanks again Dan for everything and your contribution for the coinvetnion DVD is kicking my buro. The whole toss the coin but it never went wow really got me. Great job.

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