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equivoque
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What about:http://www.cannonsgreatescapes.com/ShoppingCart/Key_Choice_purchase.html
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I would have to see it in actual use or see a description of an actual performance.

BTW, what is a "real" mentalist? They use this term in their ad.
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On 2010-07-18 02:30, ealexm wrote:
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On 2010-05-18 05:47, Mandini wrote:
... Hemingway Lock and Repro 71's very clever Pentalock which overcame one limitation of Key-R-Rect: the other keys could not be tried on the lock after the effect, because, by then, any one of them would open the lock.

I hope that will help clarify the situation and perhaps there may be other Forum members who may have further details to add or to correct me on.


There is (in addition) a Schlage Lock version where the one key left opens the lock AND due to lost ball construction keying, it negates the other 5 keys. The 5 choices can be made as usual but the remaining key opens (spectator can do it) and all is inspectable.

One key can be shown (by the magician)to operate before mixing the keys. The lock is then in a condition where any of the 6 keys work, triggering the construction device to make the lock operable only by that key. Mechanical. Resetting is a pain.



While I cannot speak to the Schlage system referred to, I can attest that the "Key-R-Rect" set that I purchased in the early 1970s works as ealexm describes; i.e., only 1 key is shown to open the lock and doing so triggers it to be opened by any key then, after being re-set (which in the case of "Key-R-Rect" can be done quickly, easily and surreptitiously) only the "special" key will open it.

Accordingly, Mandini's assertion that with Key-R-Rect "the other keys could not be tried on the lock after the effect, because, by then, any one of them would open the lock" is incorrect.
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Does anyone know of the version of Key r rect that has a plastic plexiglass folder holding a bank note where the lock is holding all, such that only the one key frees the money? I would like to do this effect so that the birthday child can win the $20 locked up. I saw a version of this trick in the 80's, so I know it existed, just can't find it now. Of course I could have the plexiglass part made up to go with a lock, but was hoping to buy it all ready done.
Thanks for any leads!
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Hi Christopher..
If you have Stunners (Larry Becker) has a great method for Key Rect.
There is a new version Key- Rect on the market called (Correct Key).
Mikame also makes similer outfit.
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On 2010-12-31 09:02, Dick Christian wrote:

While I cannot speak to the Schlage system referred to, I can attest that the "Key-R-Rect" set that I purchased in the early 1970s works as ealexm describes; i.e., only 1 key is shown to open the lock and doing so triggers it to be opened by any key then, after being re-set (which in the case of "Key-R-Rect" can be done quickly, easily and surreptitiously) only the "special" key will open it.

Accordingly, Mandini's assertion that with Key-R-Rect "the other keys could not be tried on the lock after the effect, because, by then, any one of them would open the lock" is incorrect.

This is only true if the performer can reset the lock before anyone tries the other keys. That's one good reason to put your toys away after you get through with them!

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On 2011-02-05 22:56, Christopher Starr (Toronto) wrote:
Does anyone know of the version of Key r rect that has a plastic plexiglass folder holding a bank note where the lock is holding all, such that only the one key frees the money? I would like to do this effect so that the birthday child can win the $20 locked up. I saw a version of this trick in the 80's, so I know it existed, just can't find it now. Of course I could have the plexiglass part made up to go with a lock, but was hoping to buy it all ready done.
Thanks for any leads!

This wasn't a version of Key-R-Rect, if you want to be precise. It was a version of "Seven Keys to Baldpate," which was the original "one key opens the lock" trick. The one you refer to was put out by Repro 71 (Later called Repro Magic). Mike Danata acquired Repro Magic sometime around 2008, and now manufactures something similar called "Just Chance" that uses a locked wallet instead of a piece of plexiglass. His URL is http://www.mikedanatasmagicstudio.co.uk/ . Look under mentalism. Do NOT run the video of his magic studio. It locks up.
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"Do NOT run the video of his magic studio. It locks up."

Ref the above comment, the video clip is coming from youtube, I've just run it & there appears to be no problems!

All good wishes

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I'm still having trouble with it. Maybe you need to check the compatibility with systems other than the one you use.
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So it appears that Ed Mellon's idea with Jim Swoger's keying system were the first.... Is that correct, Bill?
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Not really. Annemann's Seven Keys to Baldpate was the first. Mellon's was a way of doing this with a gimmicked lock.
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Ahh

Gimmicked. Good.
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http://www.nitelitemagic.com makes correct key (key-r-rect)
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You need to spell check your entire web site.
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I have both al Key-R-Rect with instructions (with as noted a copy of Carl Wolf's signature on the back) and a Collectors Workshop Geneva Prediction Watch for sale. But first a back story.

Our daughter Kendall turns seven tomorrow. Back on July 9th she suffered a catastrophic stroke and after being in a coma for five days the neurosurgery team at Joe DiMaggio Children's Hospital performed brain surgery to save her life. Now we are focused on her rehab and therapies, a lot of which are not covered by insurance. As a result I am selling most of my magic collection with 100% of the proceeds going to support Kendall's Occupational and Speech Therapy.

Here is a link to her story: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7FLSIIVEp4

So please if you can help us by buying these items we would appreciate it. Remember it is for an amazing cause!

Key-R-Rect - by Carl Wolf Merriss Magic - $125.00

Geneva Prediction Watch - Collector's Workshop - $425.00

Actual shipping and insurance not included and will be agreed upon with buyer. Will ship domestic or international.

Please contact me at william3@thegillisgroup.com or call 561.531.2801 with inquiry.

Thank you for your support!

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I have an original Penta Lock from Repro Magic of London, it works perfect, there are 12 keys, and a there is a brilliant handling, where the magi never touches the lock, yet it will open with any of the keys, or none of them, you are in complete control, this can be used at a kids birthday party, where the birth child wins or chooses the correct key or for adults with a ton of routines.
the Perspex/plastic holder is in good shape, the lock works very smooth and I want to sell it, and 100% of the money will go direct to Bill Gillis for Kendall, send $50.00 pay pal to Bill, and he will send me the mail info, I prefer to mail in the US only as it is pricey to send elsewhere, you may find an original for less, but remember the cause, we are helping a friend.

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The correct web site addy http://nitelitemagic.com
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Wow! I didn't know this had such a history.
I have a Hemmingway lock and seven keys that I use in my kids show and gospel show.
I see I'm going to have to take very good care of them as they may be troublesome to replace!
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I was digging through a drawer of magic and came across Luc Key by Mikame. I've never even looked at it until today. Unfortunately the instructions are all in Japanese. Does anyone have the instructions or can you explain to me how the lock works in a PM or email. PLEASE?? This is such a great find as I've been looking to purchase a lock like this for the Jon Archer routine, only to find it in my own magic drawer. ANYONE?? ANYONE??
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Hi all, I purchased Correct Key from Jim Grathoff of Nitelite magic and he even customised the unit for me for a particular routine. His equipment is excellent and I have been performing this for around 18 months (it will be most likely be featured in an upcoming book of mine). Check out https://www.nitelitemagic.com/correct-key-trick
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