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paisa23 Inner circle 7293 Posts |
I hate the card trick where They tell you to make a fist and place cards inbetween only to smack at them over and over untill your card remains. !00's of laymen show me that one . and they use the glide in a very poor manner. Kinda nitpicks at me. Ih and my faovrite. "Watch Watch look (gasp) Look"
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PapaG Special user 851 Posts |
Not really a cliche but a pet hate - I can't stand the liberal use of the word 'miracle' to describe a card trick. It makes me squirm. No matter how mind-boggling the effect, it's just a card trick for $%$@'s sake.
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scorch Inner circle 1480 Posts |
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On 2005-09-25 16:11, Jonathan Townsend wrote: Hmmm...that narrows our possibilities down quite a bit then, doesn't it? That would leave us, what, packet tricks? If Nate Leipzig recognized this a hundred years ago, it would seem that he was wrong in that the premise has survived quite intact through the decades. It's still surprisingly effective to have a spectator identify and "care" about a card by selecting it and putting their name on it. Though I guess I see your point in that if you are going to do a "pick a card any card" bit, the effect had better be worth it, and not cliched. But I see that as more a matter of context that applies to just about everything we do. Quote:
Using Aces instead of Court cards for tricks. Like we EVER had that issue here so we need to fuss about THAT issue? Ha! Like the reason our judges wear black robes, some traditions seem to have lost their context. Despite their obvious and extensive use, I'm curious to know why using aces would be cliched. They are the most beautiful, singular, and unique cards in the deck (outside of the jokers I suppose). What is the lost context of using four aces in card magic? And why in your opinion is it no longer valid? Quote:
Tearing up a card only to restore it IMMEDIATELY afterward. Is that really cliched? Or do you object because it is an effect without a logical premise? (which of course offends the theoretical sensibilities of many magicians, but audiences don't give a hoot about such things) Like with so many effects, laymen don't seem to care that the routine may theoretically lack an exterior premise, and don't know or care about the storied history of T & R effects. Those of us who perform Reformation, Torn, or similar effects can easily attest to how effective a simple T & R effect can be with audiences. So I am inclined to disagree with you on this one. The "premise," such as it is, or raison d'etre for the T & R, lies at a deeper, more intuitive level than mere logic. Mortal people yearn for immortality, and identify intensely with resurrection myths and images. That's why a simple T & R can be so powerful, even as it lacks the proverbial "what's my motivation?" Further, a simple T & R perfectly and beautifully follows a classical four-act dramatic structure: exposition (selecting & signing the card), development (tearing), recapitulation & climax (restoration), and denouement (handing the card back out). Quote:
The leader ace, or worse, the "master ace"! Why are folks using those lines? Oh, I thought everybody was talking about the "master race!" |
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Muckey Spleen New user 83 Posts |
I love the guys (some quite well known) who seem to think audiences love to watch them warm up their fingers before the magic starts. So they open and close their hands in little stretchy flourishes for a minute (or two.) Actually it's kind of thoughtful of them because it gives me a chance to leave the room.
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Jerrine Special user Busking is work. 629 Posts |
Dude, the knuckle crack, the hand wave/roll, and the drawn out process of rolling back the sleeves are all anticipated highlights of my show. I berate anyone that even thinks about bailing at that point.
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Vogler Special user Greece 707 Posts |
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On 2005-09-25 11:41, Rhabarber wrote: hahahaa!!!Nice post rhabarber..really funny with real content! I think that cliches are bad because they stop our imagination, even if the spectator hear something for the first time..We perform in a mechanical way but the right thing is to re-invent our words..And if you are a good performer you know how to present a trick to a gorgeous lady or an old man etc. And the most important you never get bored! I prefer not to talk about this bad taste magicians with the two fans and the concept "Im real magician with supernatuural powers" .Magic itself is a deception,everyone knows it, so if you are a clever person even if you are a master in your art you have to don't take yourself seriously.And especially on 21st century. I apologise but personally I can not stand the magic with boxes and dragons on it!! or bad taste colorfull designs on them |
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Andy the cardician Inner circle A street named after my dad 3362 Posts |
Sign your card - now there is only one card like this in the world.
Cards never lie
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dpe666 Inner circle 2895 Posts |
The one that I hate most is: I am using the 5 senses to create the illusion of a 6th.
God, I hate that! |
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SteveTheMagician New user 98 Posts |
I've had people book me for shows and ask if I wear a top hat.
No... I don't -_- |
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Justin Style Inner circle 2010 Posts |
Ok, look, I have...one....two....three in this hand. And now I have...one....two...three...wait, how many did I just say I had in this hand?, etc.
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wardini Regular user 105 Posts |
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I think that cliches are bad because they stop our imagination, even if the spectator hear something for the first time..We perform in a mechanical way but the right thing is to re-invent our words..And if you are a good performer you know how to present a trick to a gorgeous lady or an old man etc. And the most important you never get bored! Do actors performing a Shakespeare play perform in a mechanical way? Do they need to change the lines or re-invent the words? Quote:
I prefer not to talk about this bad taste magicians with the two fans and the concept "Im real magician with supernatuural powers" .Magic itself is a deception,everyone knows it, so if you are a clever person even if you are a master in your art you have to don't take yourself seriously. But if you don't believe you are performing 'real' magic how can you possibly expect to convince an audience that you are? Sure I'm just a guy in a silly suit doing tricks but if I try, and I work at it, and I plan and I craft maybe just maybe I can get that audience to suspend their disbelief and go back to that child like state where all things are possible and magic does exist. As for top hats and tuxedos, (Or Black tie as I like to call it being English), yes it's dated, yes it hails back to a different era and yes I like it. Now where did I put my cane, it's time for a stroll down the promenade. |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
What does performing mechanically have to do with changing the lines etc in a Shakespeare play?
The actors I've known say they find some emotional hooks to move their characters through the scenes and go from there, no two performances being identical. Now as to dressing like a penguin... got spats?
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PutASpellOnMe New user OK 27 Posts |
I LOVE the traditional Top Hat!!! It brings back a sort of antiquity/elite feeling - a unique part of History!
Quote: On 2006-12-20 21:47, SteveTheMagician wrote: |
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wardini Regular user 105 Posts |
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What does performing mechanically have to do with changing the lines etc in a Shakespeare play? My point is that in the quote I was refering to it is implied that because we are using the same lines we deliver them mechanically but that need not be the case. As in the example of a Shakespeare play where the same lines are delivered night after night with meaning and passion. No spats I'm afraid. A touch too across the pond for my liking. |
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Philip Hilton New user Scarborough UK 35 Posts |
Well coming from a theatrical background acting wise I have to agree with Jonathan, what we consider cliches, or hooks are often perfect for shaping a a character. I can't help but think that too many people performing magic want to be themselves and so be viewed as cool. Me I'm just an actor playing a magician and if the show I'm doing calls for canes and top hat and cloak, then that's great with me. If on the other hand its black suit and open necked shirt, well that's also great. I enjoy becoming a different character depending on what show is about, so for me I even go in search of cliches if they fit a certain type of magician I'm playing, it enables me to sell the show better to the public and they're who I need to work to, they pay the bills. Just my thoughts.
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mtpascoe Inner circle 1932 Posts |
"Seal the envelope by the French method."
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Matthew W Inner circle New York 2456 Posts |
Being willingly shackled, and handcuffed to a pole in the middle of many large pointy objects and then screaming and kicking be let out.
-Matt
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JohnEBlaze New user Maitland, FL 66 Posts |
I'm going to say wearing Affliction T-shirts and lots of rings. The "street magician" persona is as hack as the tuxedo and top hat.
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts |
Agree wholeheartedly with JohnEBlaze! When approached on the street, it would be nice to be able to tell if it's a panhandler or a magician.
My "card cliche" contribution goes something like "O.K., it would be pretty amazing (or "like a miracle") if I can find your card in this deck now, right?" Interestingly though, the light-speed with which things get around now, thanks to YouTube and the like, seems to make the "shelf life" of card effects pretty short.
Also known, when doing rope magic, as "Cordini"
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danielellis_5 Loyal user Sheffield 211 Posts |
The classic one,Pulling a rabit out of a hat.I cant stand that effect.Whenever I see someone about to perform it I groan its just so cliche.
Dan P.S.sorry if anyone performes it I'm sure you do it very well
Best quote from a spectator"I know how he did that,it was sleight of hand"(spectator then sits back looking pleased with himself)
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