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Jean-Luc.R.

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QUEBEC - CANADA
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Posted: Oct 14, 2005 8:41pm
What is this book?????
The Protocols of
the Elders of Magic
by
MAX MAVEN
Expected to ship November 15, 2005
Announcing an unpleasant little book that no discerning library should be without. Over a century in the making. No tricks. Only one secret, but it's a killer!
A long-standing goal at Hermetic Press has been to produce books of quality that stand out from the crowd; books that are interesting and unusual. We've never published a book more unusual than The Protocols of the Elders of Magic. It is so unusual, we aren't going to tell you exactly what it is. All we will say is that there has never been a magic book like it. If you enjoy the erudite humor of Max Maven, if you love books beautifully produced, and if you enjoy having something in your library few others do, The Protocols of the Elders of Magic is for you. If, on the other hand, you are looking for another collection of tricks, pass this one up and check out our other titles.
The Protocols of the Elders of Magic is printed in two colors on fine linen paper, and consists of 214 pages in a three-piece hardcover binding with bonded-leather spine and book-ribbon. Only 500 numbered copies will be offered for sale, all signed by Max Maven. You can only order this title from us. And don't wait too long--this limited edition is expected to disappear quickly.
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Bob Baker

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Posted: Oct 14, 2005 9:25pm
Don't know any more than you do about the book. But the "erudite humor" of the announcement date of this title + the author and publisher were enough for me to place an immediate order.
Bob
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equivoque

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Posted: Oct 14, 2005 9:52pm
Not much to go one here.
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Stefmagic

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Canada
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Posted: Oct 15, 2005 5:27pm
We all expected Max Maven incoming book about the Gilbreath principle...could it be the content of this mysterious book?
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Mark Timon

Regular user
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Posted: Oct 15, 2005 6:07pm
So, we have here a new book, but they don't tell you the contents and offer a vague description of it.
They are right about this: All we will say is that there has never been a magic book like it.
Regards
Mark Timon
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landmark

Inner circle
Brooklyn, New York
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Posted: Oct 15, 2005 6:31pm
Max has strong ties to his Jewish roots. It may serve to remember what the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was.
Jack Shalom
"One can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as 6 impossible things a day."
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MentaThought

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Posted: Oct 15, 2005 7:45pm
Max Maven my knish! "The Protocols of the Elders of Magic" is a well-known forgery created in Tsarist Russia in 1879. A Tuesday I think. It purports to be the minutes of a conference of magicians and mentalists planning to takeover the world. I'm going to report Max Maven to the ADL (the Anti-Deceptionage League) for this.
"A good mentalist ... will teach you a miracle because he understands the subtleties ..." -- Banachek
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Tom Jorgenson

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LOS ANGELES
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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 1:45am
Yeah, but how much is it????
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tuffnavyrn

Inner circle
San Diego, CA
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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 2:32am
Available only from Stephen Minch for $50.00 plus $5 for shipping.
Brian-
"That smart thing that somebody else said".
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Piers

Inner circle
A Limited Edition of
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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 5:20am
Does anyone have a Link for it ?
Piers.
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Jean-Luc.R.

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QUEBEC - CANADA
989 Posts
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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 7:25am
The link to this book is :
http://www.hermeticpress.com/
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JamesBiss

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Toronto, Canada
309 Posts
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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 10:23am
How astonishing ...
Now if it were to include a performance DVD he could call it his Extremely Mental Edition! ;>)
His timing is perfect, Best of luck Max ...
Cheers,
James
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Count Lustig

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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 10:46am
I’ll wait until they start turning up on eBay at half price (which I predict will be about a week after publication).
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Psychic Samurai

Eternal Order
Singapore
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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 10:49am
Do you think that Max will have any copies for sale personally...at personal appearances? Say, the Daytona Magic Convention?
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czero

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NYC
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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 11:13am
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On 2005-10-16 10:46, Count Lustig wrote:
I’ll wait until they start turning up on eBay at half price (which I predict will be about a week after publication).
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Or they could turn into the next Color Series. ;-)
Mike
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Stefmagic

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Canada
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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 12:01pm
Anybody got an idea of the content of that book ?
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Gordon

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Chicago
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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 12:42pm
I'm guessing that if you don't understand the title, you won't "get" the book either. But we'll see when it shows up next month.
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Count Lustig

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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 2:02pm
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On 2005-10-16 11:13, czero wrote:
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On 2005-10-16 10:46, Count Lustig wrote:
I’ll wait until they start turning up on eBay at half price (which I predict will be about a week after publication).
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Or they could turn into the next Color Series. ;-)
Mike
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The two are not mutually exclusive. The fact that they might sell for a high price on eBay ten years from now doesn’t mean that they won’t sell for a low price on eBay ten weeks from now.
Anyway, I’ll stick with my prediction.
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zallen

Regular user
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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 3:05pm
I understand the title, but I'm still at a loss as to what the book will be about. That being said, I'm about to place my order in as well. It does have Max Maven's name on it, after all.
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Lee Darrow

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Chicago, IL USA
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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 7:46am
Judging from the comment about "if you enjoy the humor of Max Maven..." and the title, this will be something along the lines of the Majoke Magazine.
Several Yiddish words come to mind about it, none of which I can spell...
I have the feeling that a lot of people are going to be very unhappy with the product if they are expecting a serious work on magic or mentalism. If, however, they are expecting a satirical work, based on the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (which is arguably one of the most evil things ever published and a big part of the basis of the Holocaust), then they will probably enjoy it, thoroughly.
Only time will tell...
Lee Darrow, C.H.
http://www.leedarrow.com
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snushy

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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 10:11am
Am I the only one offended by this title?
What's next, Phil Goldstein's "Final Solution to the Equivoque Question?"
In my opinion, being Jewish doesn't give Maven/Goldstein a pass on this kind of thing.
L. Zaslow
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Julian Kestrel

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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 10:57am
Interesting that it was announced the day after Yom Kippur. I am not offended and look forward to receiving my copy
Julian
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Bennettjc

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Brooklyn, NY
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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 11:10am
I ordered the book instantly and can't wait to get it. However....there is something a bit arrogant about the way this book is being rolled out.
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pierredan

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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 11:39am
Although the book is shrouded in mystery, one has to wonder if Max Maven would risk alienating his purchasing public by selling them a book which would be devoid of magical content.
I trust that this will be more than a simple parody of the infamous Protocols of the Elders of Zion. After all, that would be more a book on politics than one on magic.
Also, the signed limited aspect of this book makes it practically impossible to wait for the release date in order to get a better idea of the content.
This is a gamble, and my money is on Max.
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Necromancer

Inner circle
Chicago
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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 11:53am
I expect it to be clever, well written, and sharp as a tack, like Max.
And contrary to Mr. Zaslow, I think being Jewish does permit him a certain standing to poke fun at antisemitic doctrine, much as Blacks can mine humor from certain words that would be inflammatory coming from outside sources.
Incidentally, I think the title's a scream.
Best,
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Markymark

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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 11:59am
I know Jewish people who are offended by Zionists!. It is possible this is the book
on the Gilbreath principle, but I too would purchase almost anything by Max Maven.
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Julian Kestrel

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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 12:07pm
Minch has too much integrity to take advantage of us. It is clearly not a book of tricks and probably leads up to one punch line, revelation or guffaw.
Julian
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pierredan

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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 12:42pm
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On 2005-10-17 11:59, Markymark wrote:
It is possible this is the book
on the Gilbreath principle
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If this were so, the advertising would be blatantly deceptive since it states this is not a book of tricks.
Maybe Mr. Minch will let us know a bit more if the book sells out before its release date.
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Enigmo

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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 3:20pm
Hmmm... What if Mr. Maven wanted to record a routine or a collection of routines of his in print but only wanted to sell it to those who are truly interested in magic and keeping its secrets? You could advertise a book as not being a collection of tricks but as having one secret: For example Gilbreath... Certainly I wouldn't put it passed Maven's twisted sense of humour...
Maybe the effects are described but not explained....
Maybe it's just a critical view of modern magic and how secrets are so readily accessible. It says it's 100 years in the making.
Maybe...
I digress but it sure is fun to speculate. A $50 mystery... I just hope it's Gilbreath even though it's only been around for half a century...
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pierredan

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Dai Vernon's birthplace
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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 3:57pm
Enigmo,
You may be onto something. I suppose it is possible to describe many routines using Gilbreath without explaining how they work since the principle is self-working.
However, how would you justify this statement by Mr. Minch: "If, on the other hand, you are looking for another collection of tricks, pass this one up and check out our other titles."?
A collection of routines is still a collection of tricks (effects) even if they all use the Gilbreath principle.
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