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Jean-Luc.R.

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Posted: Oct 14, 2005 8:41pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Jean-Luc.R.  

What is this book?????


The Protocols of
the Elders of Magic

by
MAX MAVEN

Expected to ship November 15, 2005

Announcing an unpleasant little book that no discerning library should be without. Over a century in the making. No tricks. Only one secret, but it's a killer!

A long-standing goal at Hermetic Press has been to produce books of quality that stand out from the crowd; books that are interesting and unusual. We've never published a book more unusual than The Protocols of the Elders of Magic. It is so unusual, we aren't going to tell you exactly what it is. All we will say is that there has never been a magic book like it. If you enjoy the erudite humor of Max Maven, if you love books beautifully produced, and if you enjoy having something in your library few others do, The Protocols of the Elders of Magic is for you. If, on the other hand, you are looking for another collection of tricks, pass this one up and check out our other titles.

The Protocols of the Elders of Magic is printed in two colors on fine linen paper, and consists of 214 pages in a three-piece hardcover binding with bonded-leather spine and book-ribbon. Only 500 numbered copies will be offered for sale, all signed by Max Maven. You can only order this title from us. And don't wait too long--this limited edition is expected to disappear quickly.
Bob Baker

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Posted: Oct 14, 2005 9:25pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Bob Baker  

Don't know any more than you do about the book. But the "erudite humor" of the announcement date of this title + the author and publisher were enough for me to place an immediate order.

Bob
equivoque

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Posted: Oct 14, 2005 9:52pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of equivoque  

Not much to go one here.
Stefmagic

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Posted: Oct 15, 2005 5:27pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Stefmagic  

We all expected Max Maven incoming book about the Gilbreath principle...could it be the content of this mysterious book?
Mark Timon

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Posted: Oct 15, 2005 6:07pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Mark Timon  

So, we have here a new book, but they don't tell you the contents and offer a vague description of it.
They are right about this: All we will say is that there has never been a magic book like it.

Regards

Mark Timon
landmark

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Posted: Oct 15, 2005 6:31pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of landmark  

Max has strong ties to his Jewish roots. It may serve to remember what the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was.

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MentaThought

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Posted: Oct 15, 2005 7:45pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of MentaThought  

Max Maven my knish! "The Protocols of the Elders of Magic" is a well-known forgery created in Tsarist Russia in 1879. A Tuesday I think. It purports to be the minutes of a conference of magicians and mentalists planning to takeover the world. I'm going to report Max Maven to the ADL (the Anti-Deceptionage League) for this.


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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 1:45am    Tom Jorgenson is on-line  Reply with quote   View Profile of Tom Jorgenson  

Yeah, but how much is it????

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tuffnavyrn

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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 2:32am    Reply with quote   View Profile of tuffnavyrn  

Available only from Stephen Minch for $50.00 plus $5 for shipping.

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Piers

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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 5:20am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Piers  

Does anyone have a Link for it ?

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Jean-Luc.R.

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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 7:25am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Jean-Luc.R.  

The link to this book is :


http://www.hermeticpress.com/
JamesBiss

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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 10:23am    Reply with quote   View Profile of JamesBiss  

How astonishing ...

Now if it were to include a performance DVD he could call it his Extremely Mental Edition! ;>)

His timing is perfect, Best of luck Max ...

Cheers,

James

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Count Lustig

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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 10:46am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Count Lustig  

I’ll wait until they start turning up on eBay at half price (which I predict will be about a week after publication).
Psychic Samurai

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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 10:49am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Psychic Samurai  

Do you think that Max will have any copies for sale personally...at personal appearances? Say, the Daytona Magic Convention?
czero

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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 11:13am    Reply with quote   View Profile of czero  

Quote:

On 2005-10-16 10:46, Count Lustig wrote:
I’ll wait until they start turning up on eBay at half price (which I predict will be about a week after publication).


Or they could turn into the next Color Series. ;-)

Mike
Stefmagic

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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 12:01pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Stefmagic  

Anybody got an idea of the content of that book ?
Gordon

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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 12:42pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Gordon  

I'm guessing that if you don't understand the title, you won't "get" the book either. But we'll see when it shows up next month.


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Count Lustig

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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 2:02pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Count Lustig  

Quote:

On 2005-10-16 11:13, czero wrote:
Quote:

On 2005-10-16 10:46, Count Lustig wrote:
I’ll wait until they start turning up on eBay at half price (which I predict will be about a week after publication).


Or they could turn into the next Color Series. ;-)

Mike


The two are not mutually exclusive. The fact that they might sell for a high price on eBay ten years from now doesn’t mean that they won’t sell for a low price on eBay ten weeks from now.

Anyway, I’ll stick with my prediction.
zallen

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Posted: Oct 16, 2005 3:05pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of zallen  

I understand the title, but I'm still at a loss as to what the book will be about. That being said, I'm about to place my order in as well. It does have Max Maven's name on it, after all.
Lee Darrow

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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 7:46am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Lee Darrow  

Judging from the comment about "if you enjoy the humor of Max Maven..." and the title, this will be something along the lines of the Majoke Magazine.

Several Yiddish words come to mind about it, none of which I can spell...

I have the feeling that a lot of people are going to be very unhappy with the product if they are expecting a serious work on magic or mentalism. If, however, they are expecting a satirical work, based on the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (which is arguably one of the most evil things ever published and a big part of the basis of the Holocaust), then they will probably enjoy it, thoroughly.

Only time will tell...

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snushy

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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 10:11am    Reply with quote   View Profile of snushy  

Am I the only one offended by this title?
What's next, Phil Goldstein's "Final Solution to the Equivoque Question?"
In my opinion, being Jewish doesn't give Maven/Goldstein a pass on this kind of thing.
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Julian Kestrel

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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 10:57am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Julian Kestrel  

Interesting that it was announced the day after Yom Kippur. I am not offended and look forward to receiving my copy

Julian
Bennettjc

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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 11:10am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Bennettjc  

I ordered the book instantly and can't wait to get it. However....there is something a bit arrogant about the way this book is being rolled out.
pierredan

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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 11:39am    Reply with quote   View Profile of pierredan  

Although the book is shrouded in mystery, one has to wonder if Max Maven would risk alienating his purchasing public by selling them a book which would be devoid of magical content.

I trust that this will be more than a simple parody of the infamous Protocols of the Elders of Zion. After all, that would be more a book on politics than one on magic.

Also, the signed limited aspect of this book makes it practically impossible to wait for the release date in order to get a better idea of the content.

This is a gamble, and my money is on Max.
Necromancer

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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 11:53am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Necromancer  

I expect it to be clever, well written, and sharp as a tack, like Max.

And contrary to Mr. Zaslow, I think being Jewish does permit him a certain standing to poke fun at antisemitic doctrine, much as Blacks can mine humor from certain words that would be inflammatory coming from outside sources.

Incidentally, I think the title's a scream.

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Markymark

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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 11:59am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Markymark  

I know Jewish people who are offended by Zionists!. It is possible this is the book
on the Gilbreath principle, but I too would purchase almost anything by Max Maven.

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Julian Kestrel

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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 12:07pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Julian Kestrel  

Minch has too much integrity to take advantage of us. It is clearly not a book of tricks and probably leads up to one punch line, revelation or guffaw.

Julian
pierredan

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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 12:42pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of pierredan  

Quote:

On 2005-10-17 11:59, Markymark wrote:
It is possible this is the book
on the Gilbreath principle


If this were so, the advertising would be blatantly deceptive since it states this is not a book of tricks.

Maybe Mr. Minch will let us know a bit more if the book sells out before its release date.
Enigmo

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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 3:20pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Enigmo  

Hmmm... What if Mr. Maven wanted to record a routine or a collection of routines of his in print but only wanted to sell it to those who are truly interested in magic and keeping its secrets? You could advertise a book as not being a collection of tricks but as having one secret: For example Gilbreath... Certainly I wouldn't put it passed Maven's twisted sense of humour...

Maybe the effects are described but not explained....

Maybe it's just a critical view of modern magic and how secrets are so readily accessible. It says it's 100 years in the making.

Maybe...

I digress but it sure is fun to speculate. A $50 mystery... I just hope it's Gilbreath even though it's only been around for half a century...
pierredan

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Posted: Oct 17, 2005 3:57pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of pierredan  

Enigmo,

You may be onto something. I suppose it is possible to describe many routines using Gilbreath without explaining how they work since the principle is self-working.

However, how would you justify this statement by Mr. Minch: "If, on the other hand, you are looking for another collection of tricks, pass this one up and check out our other titles."?

A collection of routines is still a collection of tricks (effects) even if they all use the Gilbreath principle.
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