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Fandango
New user
England
69 Posts
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Posted: Nov 14, 2005 11:04am
I know this should really be in the advice section, but I felt I'd get a lot more input here...
Wow, there are sooooo many flouurish DVD's out there! I want to buy one and start learning!
I'm not asking for the best flourish DVD overall, I'm asking for the best for a beginner. It needs to be thoroughly taught as I am not great at picking things up first time. It doesn't need to make people stand up and take notice, it doesn't even need (though it pains me to say it) to have any "good" flourishes on it, I just want to learn basic stuff first and then move on.
In short, I want to start learning some better moves than the overhand shuffle, but don't know where to begin! Help me find a starting point please!
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Gresk
New user
UK
20 Posts
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Posted: Nov 14, 2005 11:38am
Extreme Beginners is probably the best place to start from scratch 
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artwo
Veteran user
South England
333 Posts
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Posted: Nov 14, 2005 2:29pm
I agree. Theres a mountain of stuff on there. And headless guys. Its the ultimate DVD!
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Fandango
New user
England
69 Posts
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Posted: Nov 14, 2005 3:10pm
Great. I forgot to mention though, where can I get them from?
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PatrickDonovan
New user
Pennsylvania
38 Posts
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Posted: Nov 14, 2005 3:17pm
I would look into getting The Art of Card Manipulation by Jeff McBride. That was the first flourish DVD I ever got and it really helped me to get started. McBride teaches you every basic thing and he has really detailed instructions. You can get it from www.llpub.com Free shipping.
Hope this helps.
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Gresk
New user
UK
20 Posts
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Posted: Nov 14, 2005 3:17pm
E
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carddealer69
Regular user
121 Posts
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Posted: Nov 14, 2005 3:48pm
I agree with extreme beginnerz. You can get it at E. It's the best out and will be for a long time.
http://www.ellusionist.com/order/Devo/Devo-Xtreme-Beginner-DVD.htm
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Bobby Forbes
Inner circle
virginia beach, VA.
1134 Posts
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Posted: Nov 14, 2005 3:53pm
I second Jeff McBrides dvds
have a nice day
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carddealer69
Regular user
121 Posts
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Posted: Nov 14, 2005 4:04pm
Jeff McBride, Flourishman, Q, Greg Irwin, De'vo and Daryl are all on extreme beginnerz. It starts from the very beginning and has like 80 some moves on it. It also teaches you what cards to use, how to powder them, hand exercises, and all the beginner stuffs. A one hour fanning tutorial and a basic beginners section with a real beginner. There isn't anything better. It's almost 4 hours and the price is a steal.
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Gresk
New user
UK
20 Posts
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Posted: Nov 14, 2005 8:53pm
Wow Q is on extreme beginners! and he is?
You could have just left your original post and it would have been all cool but I presume that you had forgotten to slag off all the other suggestions first? You really do bring it on yourself don't you?
Nevermind - Anyways Fandango, Extreme beginners IS a good dvd to get if your after the basics (possibly to intermediate if you count the Impossible Stack Close)
The McBride dvds are a great set too but its more geared towards the classic card manipulator with productions ect rather than the new fashionable XCMer.
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rkzad
Regular user
Canada
138 Posts
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Posted: Nov 14, 2005 10:37pm
Don't forget Jerry's Encyclopedia of Playing Card Flourishes. It's a fantatistc book. It is a little expensive, but look at the number of moves you will learn. There are so many pictures in it, which makes it easy to learn from.
www.flourishman.com
- richard
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winstonwolf
New user
68 Posts
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Posted: Nov 15, 2005 3:27am
McBrides are a great set of DVD's - but remember McBride is more from the 'card production' school of things, ie. producing cards from no where, a lot of the techniques are based on this.
Not to say the vids don't include lots of materials we now class as flourish or XCM. But for the pure beginner into XCM or Flourish it's Extreme Beginners all the way.
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Jonas
Inner circle
Sweden
1056 Posts
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Posted: Nov 15, 2005 5:29am
I second Jerrys book, both quality and quantity.
http://www.youtube.com/jonashaglund < Various hand-porn!
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in flames
Inner circle
Toronto
1029 Posts
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Posted: Nov 15, 2005 10:39am
Jerry's book and McBrides set get my vote.
I started with Jeff's The Art of Card Manipulation DVD set. He starts off teaching you moves like the Thumb Fan and Closing a Fan, Pressure Fan, Charlier Cut ect. You can't get anymore basic than that.
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Malakaneekeenai
Regular user
138 Posts
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Posted: Nov 15, 2005 7:08pm
Get the bible and XB and you'll be set.
"Try not to conform to the way others see you as, carve your own path"-Muah
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Eyesee
New user
9 Posts
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Posted: Nov 27, 2005 12:06pm
The McBride videos are a three-DVD set, so maybe you should just get the first one if you're starting out. There's enough basic but impressive stuff on there to keep you busy. Then down the line if you want to stick with it, get the other two DVDs which have more advanced stuff on them. Jeff has an infectious enthusiasm which makes if fun to learn from him. Snap change, Wink change, productions, these are all fun to do.
Extreme Beginnerz is fantastic. Superb videography and the moves are shown clearly several times so you don't have to keep pausing and rewinding.
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john oleson
Loyal user
235 Posts
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Posted: Mar 19, 2009 9:14pm
Fandango ... How far have you come in your journey since the first post. Let us know how you are doing?
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Demonbrn
Veteran user
Oakley, CA
338 Posts
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Posted: Feb 24, 2011 11:27pm
I've been practicing The stag and The Knights cut for somtime (I've actually got the knights cut down, but the stag I may put the kibosh on because I can't seem to get it up to speed nor keep the packets together). So I'm wondering what are some good things to get started on?
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macc
New user
68 Posts
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Posted: Feb 25, 2011 2:04am
I recommend xb or genesis vol1 by andrei jikh.
I started out with xb but genesis is way better in my opinion.
it´s also a beginners dvd. he teaches you the basics and that vey well and relaxed. really easy to follow.
and he also gives you information about history and stuff.
this dvd should give you a very good base.
only thing that´s in my opinion a huge plus for xb is the fanning section with jerry.
also take a look at these free basic tutorials:
http://vimeo.com/user1880818/videos
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The Great Heathini
New user
Virginia
29 Posts
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Posted: Apr 13, 2011 2:19pm
I highly recommend The Complete Illustrated Book of Card Magic by Walter B. Gibson.
It is a fantastic book for serious magicians of all skill levels.
Hope this is of help,
Brent.
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rjs
Regular user
125 Posts
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Posted: Apr 27, 2011 5:44pm
Genesis Vol 1 is excellent.
And volume 2 has just been released by Theory 11.
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SimonG-97
Veteran user
340 Posts
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Posted: Apr 28, 2011 12:47pm
The card magic of paul le paul?
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Synatics
Regular user
154 Posts
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Posted: Oct 22, 2011 2:41am
I started by learning: (mainly off youtube - don't hate!)
1) The spring
2) The Fan
3) W.E.R.M
4) Symphony (from Daniel Madison's Lethal DVD)
I recommend the Lethal DVD, it's full of pretty hard stuff but it's shown slowly and I found it relatively easy to copy after a LOT of practice.
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squando
Elite user
435 Posts
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Posted: Dec 8, 2011 12:15pm
You tube has some great tutorials. I agree.
Frank
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Suren
Veteran user
Armenia
305 Posts
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Posted: Dec 22, 2011 9:27am
Mannnnnn! Trust me (I take flourishes really seiously) The best place to start is Andrei Jikhs DVD. don't buy McBride stuff he is not good at cardistry. You can buy EOPCF but I must recommend Genesis. Its better then anything for a beginner. For some advanced styff Trilogy by Dan and Dave BUck is must have for any flourisher.Both DVDs can be purchased at Theory11. And I will suggest you to register in some cardistry communities because it will be difficult to start out. For me the best place is unitedcardists.net
If you have any questions feel free to ask me.
Good luck to you!
Magically,
-Sur.
www.facebook.com/CardistSuren
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