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Kingry Elite user Virginia 464 Posts |
Can't believe no one mentioned Ricky Jay. Glen I agree with you 100%. Some say if you show skill, they won't believe it's real magic. Who are we kidding. Spectators realize magic can only be done through dexterity or gimmicks. I never want it to be a question in their minds.
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bishthemagish Inner circle 6013 Posts |
Great points Kingry
I agree and also feel Ricky Jay is tops.
Glenn Bishop Cardician
Producer of the DVD Punch Deal Pro Publisher of Glenn Bishop's Ace Cutting And Block Transfer Triumphs |
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The Dowser Special user Canada 763 Posts |
Sorry to get off topic but regarding the old question of whether or not to show skill :
In all the discussions , books , and essays on this old topic - I've never seen anyone mention that a certain level of (supernatural ) skill can be presented ( and regarded ) as an effect of magic in it's own right . |
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bishthemagish Inner circle 6013 Posts |
That is a great point Dowser,
In the far east and the martial arts, skill can have a spiritual, magical, effect - on humans involved. Why not in magicians magic?
Glenn Bishop Cardician
Producer of the DVD Punch Deal Pro Publisher of Glenn Bishop's Ace Cutting And Block Transfer Triumphs |
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Tony Noice Veteran user 342 Posts |
Dowser and Bish,
Right on!! I have never accepted the idea that when an audience believes the magician is skillful, it lessens their sense of wonder. Take the Jazz Aces. If the audience believes that the magician is so skillful that he can exchange cards three times in a row without apparently going near them, this is in itself mind-boggling. The perception of super-human skill creates just as emotional an aesthetic response as complete bewilderment. |
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bishthemagish Inner circle 6013 Posts |
Great points Tony. I agree 100%!
Glenn Bishop Cardician
Producer of the DVD Punch Deal Pro Publisher of Glenn Bishop's Ace Cutting And Block Transfer Triumphs |
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DrNorth Veteran user North Starr Entertainment, Harrisburg PA 364 Posts |
My favorite dealer is Simon Lovell, he is amazing to watch. Hell even when he shows you what he is doing it's hard to catch.
"For it shows things that were, and things that are, and things that yet may be. But which it that he sees, even the wisest cannot always tell" ~Galadriel "A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes." |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
It has been awhile, but as I recall Persi Diaconis dealt cards with no difference ini the look, sound, etc. regardless of where the card came from, top, second or?
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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brownitus Loyal user 237 Posts |
I've never seen or met a "real" cheat or anything, yet to answer the question with basically the criteria of having seen an individual perform false deals in whatever situation, I can't remember how long it took me to unfreeze my "seen-a-ghost"-ized face after seeing Steve Forte on the World's Greatest Magic special. When they busted out the slo-mo cameras and zoomed in on his hands, hoochimama! The cyborg hooked me into this field with them deals...
Take care Bobby
"Everything that can be invented has been invented." - Charles H. Duell, US Commissioner of Patents, 1899
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Matt Malinas Inner circle Transylvania 1367 Posts |
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On 2006-01-17 22:24, Pete Biro wrote: right on mr biro. so to put it this way , from the false dealers I have seen I consider richard turner to be the best. -Matt
The masters make the rules, for the wise men and the fools
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lchemist New user 63 Posts |
Pete:
Didn't Diaconis, when he was a kid, learn to deal seconds from Carlyle? |
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lchemist New user 63 Posts |
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On 2006-01-19 14:34, MichielTummers wrote: Have you seen Erdnase dealing seconds? |
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brownitus Loyal user 237 Posts |
He lives in my basement along with Mr. Presley. He shows me his deals all the time.
"Everything that can be invented has been invented." - Charles H. Duell, US Commissioner of Patents, 1899
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Uggla New user 10 Posts |
Lchemist that's right Persi learned it first from Francis Carlyle.
Persi`s false deals looks great, even in 2006 when he hadnt practised in a long time. When he borrowed my Tally hoo he said it feels good to hold a real deck of cards again. He learned his second from Carlyle and his bottom from Artanis, both looks real good. |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts |
There are two kinds of false dealer: Then that are the best and them that get caught. They say there are two kinds of people: Them that think there two kinds of people and them that think it’s more complex than that.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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