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mikejorden Loyal user 222 Posts
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Why???
for $10 more you can buy the REAL book. One of the best books of magic ever produced. Isn't there an ethics issue here. L & L currently publish the book and presumably they acquired the rights. Regardless, my experience (and others) is that you don't properly read large e-books like Tarbell, Hofmann, Jinx etc. Anyone seriously into magic should have this book on their shelf not in some seldom looked at computer file. |
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shomemagic Inner circle Missouri 2231 Posts
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If Chris is putting this out..I'm sure he went through the right channels to do this ethically correct.
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Chris Inner circle lybrary.com 1179 Posts
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I purchased the world-wide exclusive electronic rights to this book. I have as much right to publish this ebook as L&L has the right to reprint it. Yes, I agree this is probably the single best book on close-up magic. That is why I purchased the rights for a significant amount of money. Time will tell if I made a wise investment.
There are two main reasons I made this investment. One, it is Lybrary.com's mission to provide the best possible contents available, and second Dai Vernon has meant so much for my own development in magic that I wanted to pay tribute to him by preserving his material for eternity in digital form. Here is the direct link to The Dai Vernon Book of Magic, written by Lewis Ganson and originally published by Harry Stanley: http://www.lybrary.com/vernon-book-magic-p-304.html
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Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7025 Posts
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What makes the electronic version any less of a real book? The words are the same. It is simply presented in a different format. And what is properly reading a book? I doubt anyone reads a magic book the same way, hard bound or not: some skip around, some read cover to cover. I've done both.
I personally plan on purchasing the ebook for lybrary.com. Chris has provided the magic community with an incredible resource. A lot of books on his site are hard to find in hard copy form. I think Chris deserves a lot of respect for his ambitious endeavor.
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atucci Veteran user Middleburg, Florida 381 Posts
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Mr. Jorden,
As you now know, lybrary.com has the electronic rights to the book. No ethics issues at all. You mention for an additional $10 USD, one could obtain the ‘real’ book. They are both ‘real’, just delivered to the reader via different types of media. I believe you when you say that you (and perhaps others) are unable to ‘properly’ read large ebooks. However, demographics are changing and there is a growing audience receptive to learning ‘online’. As with anything, there isn’t a one-size fits all answer here. Online learning may not be the best choice in many circumstances, however in some situations it’s just as viable as learning from a hardcopy source, quicker to obtain, less expensive and often a better choice ecologically. Your final statement about computer files that are seldom looked at, again may apply to some, but I bet we all would be surprised to discover how many download and use their ebooks on a regular basis. Also, having been hit by three hurricanes in the last 18 months, I feel better knowing that some of my magic literature is safely stored on a CD and only the most devastating of natural disasters would destroy that information. That being said, I treasure my copy of Strange Ceremonies as it’s signed by Eugene Burger and sits proudly on my shelf. Regards, Tony Tuccillo Sebastian, Florida
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Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7025 Posts
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Well said, Tony.
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mikejorden Loyal user 222 Posts
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Wow - that started some juices flowing.
Each to his own. Perhaps we will see all the old Harry Stanley publication put out as e-books - Tribute to Leipzig, Malini & His Magic, Magic of Slydini etc. and just for the record Tony I treasure my first edition of the Vernon Book signed by the Professor. You can't get personally signed e-books! |
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Chris Inner circle lybrary.com 1179 Posts
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Perhaps we will see all the old Harry Stanley publication put out as e-books - Tribute to Leipzig, Malini & His Magic, Magic of Slydini etc. "Magic of Slydini" will come soon. I am still looking for a good Harry Stanley edition to do the conversion from. If anybody has one for sale, let me know. The other Harry Stanley publications are in the realm of possibilities, but it will largely depend on how successful the Vernon and Slydini ebooks are. Therefore, if you want to see more of these kinds of ebooks, then please support my digitization efforts, purchase the Vernon and later the Slydini ebooks and spread the word to your friends and colleagues. Wouldn't it be great to have all these wonderful classics available as searchable and affordable ebooks? Somebody mentioned before 'the ebook is JUST $10 cheaper' (my emphasis). For some $10 is a huge difference. $10 can pay for another trick or booklet. And taken over say the complete Harry Stanley set of books we are talking hundreds of dollars savings. Anyway, a big thank you to all the ones who understand what I am trying to do and who show their support in many different ways and on many different levels. In the end I do this for magic and for the preservation of magic knowledge.
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mormonyoyoman Inner circle I dug 5,000 postholes, but I have only 2440 Posts
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On 2006-03-02 12:08, Chris wrote: That person did not finsih the sentence, Chris. What I think he meant to say was "the e-book is JUST $20 cheaper -- and searchable, AND downloadable to my PDA." *jeep! --Gran'pa Chet (Who loves taking 200+ books on the road with him.)
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Reuben Dunn Inner circle Has a purple ribbon wraped around my 1592 Posts
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[quote]On 2006-03-02 12:08, Chris wrote:
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Any prospect of putting the books out in Adobe PDF format? It's been a while since I've bought anything from you, but at the time the format was non pdf. Have you change this? |
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DoctorCognos Elite user 413 Posts
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If you have any text in electronic format that is printable, then you can convert it to PDF by "printing it" using a free PDF tool called pdf Creator available from http://pdfcreator.sourceforge.net if you have a MS Windows operating system, I have run it on Windows 2003 Server, Windows 2000, and Windows XP.
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Chris Inner circle lybrary.com 1179 Posts
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Any prospect of putting the books out in Adobe PDF format? Yes, anybody who has followed Lybrary.com's releases over the last months probably realised that we released mainly PDFs. We are supporting both, HTML and PDF, but the focus is shifting towards PDF. The recent versions of Acrobat have become better and many of the features I built into my HTML ebooks which were originally not in Adobe have made it finally into Adobe (for example searching many ebooks with one swoop; text-to-speech and others). We are also working on converting our HTML ebooks to PDFs, but this kind of conversion work is pretty low priority and so it will take a while until we have every ebook available as PDF. Nevertheless you will find already many PDFs at Lybrary.com. Best, Chris....
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Steve V Inner circle Northern California 1878 Posts
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Chris' company is making available hard to find to impossible to find book with great production levels and the ability to search etc., we are not talking just scanning and selling here. I reccomend his services w/out reservation.
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atucci Veteran user Middleburg, Florida 381 Posts
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Yeah but you can't get 'personally signed ebooks!'........
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Chris Inner circle lybrary.com 1179 Posts
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On 2006-03-06 04:47, atucci wrote: That is true, but soon you will be getting at Lybrary.com a lot more than the ebook. I am working on two new features which will differentiate ebooks even more from books. I am so excited about these new features/services that it is hard for me to hold back. But since I am in the middle of development I don't want to spill the beans prematurely. I anticipate that these new features will push many over the hump to at least try out ebooks, if not embrace them. So, yes, a signature is cool, but besides collector value and a great memento it doesn't offer much. What I am planning will actually give you more information and help you get more out of the ebook, become a better magician. Stay tuned...
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Steve V Inner circle Northern California 1878 Posts
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Atuci has an excellent point. If someone was to get the Vernon book right now he could go get it signed by Dai Vernon and that would be way cool.
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Tom Jorgenson Inner circle LOOSE ANGLES, CALIFORNIA 4451 Posts
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Steve-
YOU try to get that cigar out of his hand. No thanks!
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atucci Veteran user Middleburg, Florida 381 Posts
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Hey guys, I was being facetious (in deference to my friend mikejorden). As you can read, he's very proud of his signed, first edition book although I'm not sure if that'll make him a better magician(facetious again).
Chris - can't wait to 'hear' about your new features!
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Chris Inner circle lybrary.com 1179 Posts
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Chris - can't wait to 'hear' about your new features! I described details in my newsletter today. The whole system is in beta version. I will provide more information later once the first beta test is over. For now this is exclusive to newsletter subscribers.
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