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sdgiu
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I have had 3 Flaming Bibles in the past, and I have given them away to preachers who asked for them. I know how they operate, and was trying to think of a way to use a disposable flameless lighter ( an idea I saw in the forum somewhere from a gentleman from Great Britian. He was offering it as an idea for other fire magic stuff.) instead of the
regular mechanism. Does anyone have any ideas on this? I am a pyro Smile from way back, so I am familiar with the dangers this may entail. If you don't want to post replies in this venue, feel free to send me a PM ( Smile I just figured out what PM meant Smile ) ( Smile Still don't know how to do it, But I am sure everyone else here does.) I am definitely a Techno Peasant. Smile but a Happy one.
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The Advertised Inferno, (I have one of a different make, can't remember who) can turn any book into a hot book, they're not real expensive and if your into fire they are handy.
BroDavid
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I have looked at building burning books, and in my opinion, it basically isn't worth the effort.

A misaprehension is that the electronic ignitors are better than flint wheel ignitors. But they are just as unreliable, if the fuel isn't fresh.

But frankly unless you want to trial and error your way to produce them commerically, you will waste a lot of lighters, (I have boxes of lighters in various states of disassembly) and it isn't easy to cut the middle out of the books. Smile

They are pretty cheap and if you are going to be giving them away, maybe you could get a deal on some.

BroDavid
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sdgiu
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Well, I have solved the Problem with cutting out the paper. If anyone has a set of schematics/idea for the electronic igniters, I'll be set.

If not, I have two sets of glow plugs I bought at Hank Lees, last time I was in Boston, and some NiChrome wire from a local hobby shop.
Now I just need to know how best to hook them up.

I am definitely open to "all" suggestions.

So to put it technically, " Smile HELP!!!" Smile

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Steve Smile
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Steve Lancaster
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I have been manufacturing the Flaming Bible and Flaming Book for 15 years. I use to get them from Paul Diamond and he gave he permission to take over where he left off.

I use an eletronic igniter. It will last years and my book (I have been knocked off many times) is easy to repair. I you have a problem and can't fix it yourself send it back and I can fix it. We have very few sent back for repair.

If you use Lighter Fluid it will work everytime.

Please buy ours. It is the original.

http://www.tophatmagic.com

If you have any questions EM me.

Steve Lancaster
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On 2003-04-27 18:33, sdgiu wrote:
Well, I have solved the Problem with cutting out the paper.


The flaming books/bibles I have seen have solved the problem too...they do not use real books.
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sdgiu
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Steve
Thanks for the ideas, I had considered the eletronic igniter idea, but haven't had a chance to do anything with any of this as yet. It's good to know that it is workable.

Sponge
Yeah, I considered using wood or plastic, but I deal in used books, and usually have access to 20-30/ month for free, or nearly free, so unless you can beat that price, I will probably stay with the book idea.

Thanks guys,
Steve Smile

PS Any more hints tips or ideas are still appreciated.
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Sdgiu,

I can recommend Steve Lancaster and his work to you. He is a working magician and fully understands the problems and solutions. However, I will tell you that I have only trusted him as a magic manufacturer and supplier about a quarter of a century, I visited with him in August at the Invisible Lodge and see no reason to change my mind. You're in good hands.

One of the reasons his ignitor works and he knows it is repairable, if necessary, is because the key parts are made just across the state line from him in Arkansas. He can get them when others don't have a clue.

Ask him to make you a good flash pot too using the same method. Steve knows flash and fire products.

(He also was playing with a "flexible bolt" that may be available now too!)

Good Shopping!

Bob
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hugmagic
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Steve,
Sorry I missed making contact with you at IL last month. I always like to put a face with a name.

It was a fun little convention, but extremely busy for me with the act , lecture, and booth.
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
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Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's.
thegospelmagicman
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I have one that I made years ago. I've used it a lot and have success every time. PM me if you wish.

John
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I have not done this, but one idea may be to get one of those long neck butane grill starters. Embed it into the book of your choice with the tip even with the top of the book. Then the trigger can be accessed on the side of the book open or not. A metal fan nozzle may be attached to spread the flame wider to make it look bigger and more visible.

BTW, I am not very religious, but is it better to rip the guts out of a real Bible or print the words Holy Bible on a fake?
Nothing would get done at all, if man waited so long that no one could find fault with it.
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I personally prefer to use a book with a hard cover and write the word "BIBLE" or "HOLY BIBLE" on it with a permanent marker or a paint marker. The book is much stiffer and seems to work better than if I had used a "real" leather Bible. You can spray paint the binding of the book to simulate the cover of a Bible.

John
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Donald Dunphy
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On 2004-09-08 16:08, Magic.J.Manuel wrote:
I have not done this, but one idea may be to get one of those long neck butane grill starters. Embed it into the book of your choice with the tip even with the top of the book. Then the trigger can be accessed on the side of the book open or not. A metal fan nozzle may be attached to spread the flame wider to make it look bigger and more visible.


I have the impression that you have never owned a hot book.

The ignition system is different from what makes the flame continue to burn, and makes the flame large.

It does NOT continue to burn, by holding down the ignition trigger. It works another way. At least in the commercial hot book I once owned.

Just thought I should mention this.

- Donald.
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
Magic.J.Manuel
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Yes I have seen them. I am just suggesting a different way. Cleaner. No smokey flame, it may be adjustable. Shoots the flame out the top instead of being in the book, and may be done with the book closed. A standard hot book is normally only lit for a few seconds, so holding the switch open may be done. You may be able to even keep the rig seperate so it can be insterted into any large book.

I have used a candle to silk and do not like carrying the fluid can. It may leak if the props get hot in the car.
Nothing would get done at all, if man waited so long that no one could find fault with it.
Donald Dunphy
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Okey Dokey. It's an interesting idea.

- Donald.
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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