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cloneman
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Anybody do this packet trick?

For those that do, any thoughts on what I feel is an extremely awkward move in the beginning, namely pulling a single card out of a plastic wallet, putting face down on the packet, flipping over a double to show it blank, flipping it face down again and replacing the face down card in the little plastic wallet. Talk about drawing attention to an obvious "move." Any thoughts on how to avoid this?
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If you had more card skills you would not have to ask this question, Card College as already mentioned is a good place to start.
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On 2006-04-08 12:16, Lo-Key wrote:
If you had more card skills you would not have to ask this question, Card College as already mentioned is a good place to start.
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First of all secret sessions is the place to talk about effects,secondly I was not rude.
and third I was not addressing my answer to you.... it was addreesd to a person who is known to be rude himself.
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As I have never found Cloneman to be "rude", perhaps I can discuss this packet trick in a civil manner. This is by far one of my favorite packet tricks, and I perform it all the time. In fact, it sits in the same plastic wallet as B'Wave. As to the "problem" that is in question, there really is no problem unless you are performing this effect for magicians. Remember, lay people do not think the way magicians think. I have done this effect 1000s of times (I have had it for about ohhhhhhhhhh, 16 years), and not once has a lay person even asked to examine the cards let alone question the 1st part of the effect.

If you still feel uncomfortable with the 1st move, you can always perform a matrix effect with 3 blank faced cards and the 4-quarter card. Casually show all 4 cards to be blank using your favorite method, and then do the matrix being careful not to expose the quarter card. At the end of the matrix, do a certain "move" with the supposed blank packet and quarter card. Or you can just place the quarter card off to one side as the spectators already believe all 4 cards to be blank.

Oh, by the way, Bicycle Built For Five from Ton Onasaka can be set up in such a way that you can perform it exactly in the same manner as Pickpocket. Smile
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****CAUTION: RESPONSE TO FLAME FOLLOWS****

For the sake of those of you who don’t want to get caught up in another stupid “flame call and response,” I encourage you to skip ahead to the next post. Sorry for the interruption.

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Lo-Key -

So I am known to be rude? Please point to a single post where I have been accused of being rude, if not, please shut the $%&* up!

NOTE: The preceding sentence was posted WITH intentional sarcasm and irony.

Seriously though, while I appreciate the suggestion to find the answer to my question in Card College, I don’t think the offensive tone of your response was warranted by my question.

Furthermore, I have posted similar requests for help on tricks throughout the open forums, as do others. If you felt a detailed response to my question would have tipped too much of the secret handling, you could have PM’d me or moved the conversation to secret sessions.

But instead, you responded by writing: “If you had more card skills you would not have to ask this question.”

Guess what: you might be right. Maybe someone with more card skills would have known the answer. That’s why I posted the question. That’s why this forum is here.

So if you don’t want to post an answer to my question, don’t.

If you want to post a brief response, like: “Card College,” do so (thanks, Josh).

If you want to post a more detailed answer to the thread’s question, I welcome the help (thanks, dpe666 for your thorough response and for your civil manner).

But, Lo-Key, if you want to post just to blame me for not knowing something and for daring to ask for assistance; only to follow up by calling me rude, then… as I wrote above… please shut the $%&* up!

NOTE: The preceding sentence was posted WITHOUT an intentional sarcastic tone (the irony, however, remains).

Bottom line, I don’t think I my question was wrong in either tone or substance. If I you think it was, you have every right to say so, but please do so first in a courteous and respectful tone. My asking for help, even if you perceive me ignorant, does not give you proper justification to be rude.

You are way out of line.

And please don’t respond that I’m being rude in the post I’m writing right now. Rude is when a harsh response is unwarranted. Whether or not you think my response to you is too harsh, it is certainly warranted. Don’t confuse rudeness with a willingness to push back when pushed.

Okay. I’m done.

Thanks, dpe666 I will try matrix handling.

Everybody else, sorry about the thread interruption.
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