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CAROLINI Special user 607 Posts |
Skilled dealers would maintain that shuffling 8 perfect faros restored the deck to it's original order. Don't know if that's true. However, a minute or two of a a spellbinding story could be the perfect misdirection for the time required to shuffle. As always it's not what we do but how and why we do it.
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Yehuda Elite user 413 Posts |
The idea of shuffling the deck 8 times with the out-faro is great. You can have a stacked deck before a routine and out-faro it 5 or 6 times and then in performance you can clearly show you're giving the deck 2 or 3 shuffles which in reality is bringing your deck into stacked order.
Bruce Cervon and Juan Tamariz were known for having a deck end up in perfect order after a full performance after incorporating the faros in the routine. |
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The Amazing Noobini Inner circle Oslo, Norway 1658 Posts |
I've finally become rather good at this Faroing business. But I still could never do 8 perfect ones in under a minute.
My level of stage freight is so high that the few times I have tried it just for fun, here alone in my room, my hands stiffen up and I completely lose the ability to do much of anything. The pressure gets to me. So my current record is 3 perfect Faros period, when there is a clock in front of me. After that I just lose the deck or something. Without the pressure I don't have any problems doing as many as I want, but probably a lot slower than in one minute. After this I realize that I need to practice in front of a camera or something because with the level of nerves I have I will never be able to function out there like this. So timing yourself may have an additional aspect than showing off. It could for instance be a way of checking how much you speed up without knowing it in front of a spectator. Or to see how long something really takes when you feel that time is flying by because your hands and mind is moving. Would they get bored and lose interest?
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evikshin Special user 893 Posts |
I've recently mastered the perfect faro, a sleight which a year ago I thought I would NEVER be able to get. I've been purposely practicing with a worn out deck, just to make things harder for me, so that when I finally practice with a new deck, its like being rewarded (not only is it harder to faro a worn deck, its also harder to cut exactly 26 cards, because in a worn deck, the cards are distorted, and it makes it harder to judge the thickness of the individual packets).
One thing that I do, which I think is quite different from how most people do it, is that I weave the bottom and top few cards first, then I exert a lot of pressure to weave the middle cards. I use a light touch to weave the cards initially, then I actually tighten my grip and push hard to weave the center cards. Anybody have any thoughts on this? |
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edh Inner circle 4698 Posts |
If it works for you great. I personally use a soft touch all the way through.
Magic is a vanishing art.
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Kjellstrom Inner circle Sweden, Scandinavia, Europe 5203 Posts |
A simple movie Me doing 8 faro shuffles with an "old" deck..
DOWNLOAD video here: http://www.kjellstrom.info/media/8faroshuffles.wmv (right click link and "save as") Mats Kjellstrom Sweden |
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CAROLINI Special user 607 Posts |
Is it true that 8 perfect faro's will retun the deck to it's original order?
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Rocketeer Special user Westchester, NY 965 Posts |
I seem to remember reading some years ago in the New York Times that seven perfect shuffles will end up with the deck in the order in which it started out. However I may be misremembering . I also seem to remember that seven imperfect shuffles are the number required to thoroughly mix the deck.
Any mathematicians in the house?
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The Amazing Noobini Inner circle Oslo, Norway 1658 Posts |
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On 2007-07-13 16:14, CAROLINI wrote: Yes. As long as they are so called Out-Faros (top card stays on top, bottom card stays on the bottom).
"Talk about melodrama... and being born in the wrong part of the world." (Raf Robert)
"You, my friend, have a lot to learn." (S. Youell) "Nonsensical Raving of a lunatic mind..." (Larry) |
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ragingcalm Elite user 428 Posts |
Guys have a look at Expert Card Technique. I'm sure it's not the first place, but it contains charts of the exact card positions of all the cards throughout the 8 faros back to completion. I'm assuming 8 In Faros could be returned to new order with a simple cut.
Like several have mentioned there is no need to be able to do 8 perfect faros. The most required by any trick I have seen is 2 perfect faros. If you want to end with perfect order simply do 6 perfect faros before starting the performance. Do a false shuffle (Green/zarrow) and then finish with 2 faros. |
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Andy the cardician Inner circle A street named after my dad 3362 Posts |
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On 2007-07-21 10:20, ragingcalm wrote: 8 faros is an overkill to the spectators.
Cards never lie
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The Amazing Noobini Inner circle Oslo, Norway 1658 Posts |
Tried the speed test again like I do every few months. Still nowhere remotely near doing 8 in a minute.
Determining the middle of the deck by eye measurement isn't the problem. It's actually parting the deck there with the fingertips and not having two neighboring cards "want" to stay together that is .
"Talk about melodrama... and being born in the wrong part of the world." (Raf Robert)
"You, my friend, have a lot to learn." (S. Youell) "Nonsensical Raving of a lunatic mind..." (Larry) |
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