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Platt Inner circle New York 2011 Posts |
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On 2007-02-08 15:54, John Born wrote: John, I really don't mean to hammer away at you, but I couldn't disagree more with your above comments. Are you truly so presumptuous as to speak for the entire magic community by telling us a collection of (a)caan effects is far from from what we need? Who are you to make such a claim? I've already received numerous emails from Café members stating that's exactly what they're looking for. You go on to state "that type of material does little for the progression of our art." John, that's absurd. You should know that creativity is far more often than not a matter of building on what's already been done. Almost invariably, musicians, painters, authors, and yes, even magicians claim that their inspiration to further the art came from learning and embracing the vast history of what came before. So in the interest of furthering the (a)caan plot, I can't think of anything more valuable than laying out the numerous fascinating angles to this plot that so many creative minds have brought to the table. I want to once again state that MTB is a fine book with a lot of great thinking. But please, let's put the precious "art vs. craft" and "higher ground" language aside. Be it a tabled double or a stack, art is what we make of it.
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John Born Veteran user 390 Posts |
Platt-
With all due respect, you are talking nail writers, second deals, and Koran decks. You even recommend "The Grail" as THE solution, which is not even an ACAAN. The book either recognizes or explains over 50 versions of ACAAN and its predecessors. Brother, please move along to another section. Your wisdom, I'm sure, can be used elsewhere. John B. Born |
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Daren Inner circle 2051 Posts |
Can someone please post a short review of the other effects included in this book?
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fooksau Loyal user 299 Posts |
Why not just take the cards out of the case using your system and use a quick pass or even cut to position the cards? I understand that your performance needs to deceive not only spectators but magicians as well. But to laymen would it really take away from the effect if you cut the cards once (pass) after you dumped them?
How many Magicians does it take to advertise a trick? Three.. One to steal the trick. One to steal HIS trick. And one to write a good review.
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bugjack Inner circle New York, New York 1624 Posts |
Whether you go for it or not, the book's premise involves the development of a "pure" effect, one that seems as close to real magic as possible. For Born, that requires that the cards be handled as minimally as possible after the selected card is named. There are other versions in the book that are less rigorous in approach.
You're right, a good magician can get a lot of stuff by a layman, but that's not really what Born's book is about. |
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G. Batson Regular user 147 Posts |
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On 2007-02-08 21:55, Platt wrote: Platt, You really can't argue with him...after all, he is JOHN BORN. I agree with you but you can't argue with someone with such rigid ideas. John's looking out for us. I wouldn't worry John. Mike Close liked your book. That's all that matters, right? G. |
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John Born Veteran user 390 Posts |
Hey Guys -
Finally back. Thanks to everyone in AL and FL for another successful tour. It was a real pleasure, and look forward to returning in the future. Mr. Batson - Thanks for your comments. If, by rigid ideas, you mean have clear goals and vision for something worthwhile, then yes, I very have rigid ideas. As for arguing, there was none. John B. Born |
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Alex Linian Inner circle Peru 1277 Posts |
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On 2007-02-13 22:21, fooksau wrote: If thought of as a puzzle it would make no difference. But changing the moment of the shift affects timing which is an important factor in building anticipation during a performance. John, I just wanted to add here that, while I have not read the book completely, I have taken a good look at it; I like its purpose and the way it is structured very much. Definitely not a "thrown together" project, or a simple collection of methods.
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Jason Shapiro New user 33 Posts |
I love this book. Great lecture. Don't forget to come back to Atlanta as well.
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paisa23 Inner circle 7293 Posts |
I'm ordering now from HP, only because I have a few other items that I need to get. John wish I was in Jersey this November when you get there.
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DougNicols Special user 846 Posts |
I'm absolutely loving the Meant To Be system, and ReBorn effect. I've spent about 60+ hours both memorizing the Mnemonica deck and perfecting ReBorn. After that much time, I can casually whip out my custom deck that uses White-Out for the marks (invisible to any spectator) and casually hand it over for the count without hardly thinking about the math or positioning at all.
I borrowed (stole?) the "old gambler" story from Darwin Ortiz and modified it to this particular effect. The retired gunfighter turns to gambling for a living since it's less risk. He meets a younger guy, talks about fate - then the younger cowboy counts the cards out, with the gambler's life in the balance. Strong Magic at its best, IMHO. Great, great, great book, and well worth the $60 to me. Needless to say, it leaves behind some speechless, befuddled spectators. Staring at the cards and not saying a word for several seconds. |
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closeupcardician Special user Justin Teeman Moore, OK 602 Posts |
This is a wonderful book with some great Ideas from an all around great guy. Thanks John! His essay on creativity should be required reading for any of us interested in elevating magic as Art.
"Magic as art cannot live without love. Love of some kind. There are novels without love, other arts without love. But there can be no magic without love." - Rodney Reyes
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misterblack New user 27 Posts |
I would like to respond to a few comments in this thread that question whether the method of John's 'ACAAN' number is too difficult, highly fiddly, etc.
I am far - VERY far - from a sleight of hand master, and I have found this effect perfectly practical after a decent amount of practice. It's a fabulous effect which totally stuns people - well worth the effort. |
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John Born Veteran user 390 Posts |
Hey guys!
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for coming to my lectures at the Midwest Magic Jubilee and the Magicelebration! Awesome times! Yes, the rumors are true. My upcoming book has INSANE work on the ACAAN plot, among many many others. More to come... Best, John B. Born |
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Mike Melito Loyal user 263 Posts |
Your lecture - great as always. I really appreciate your theory behind the tricks and building up a plot. This is so overlooked with many many performers. It truly is the difference between a trickster and a magician.
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John Born Veteran user 390 Posts |
Hey guys,
The reprint is in! Meant To Be is now available again. Best, John Born |
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bobn3 Special user Wichita, KS 718 Posts |
Hi all,
I was at Stevens Magic last Sat. and they had roughly a half dozen copies of this in. Bob Phillips http://www.stevensmagic.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=9088 |
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Mind Guerrilla Inner circle Queens, NY 2670 Posts |
ACAAN is as good a mentalism card effect as they come.
I don't have the skill/dexterity to do card tricks but I'm sure this book is gold for those who do. I was mainly interested in the contributions by Banachek and Luke Jermay. I thought the introductory "magician as artiste" stuff was a bit pretentious. Those who diagree are probably also bothered by my use of the term "card tricks." I'm not up on the politically correct artiste-approved term. It's a book with very good prouction values. Looks and feels very good. If you're into that sort of thing. |
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Joshua Barrett Inner circle Cincinnati, Ohio 3631 Posts |
Old thread I know but I saw this at the local magic shop, before I buy id like to know if the full deck stack is a memorized stack and if so can any be used? I already have and use a memorized full deck order and I'm not interested currently in learning another
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Magiman New user 60 Posts |
Yes, any mem deck will do
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