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EvilGenius
New user
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Posted: Jul 5, 2006 2:12pm
When I purchased my first cups and balls, I received a poem that started out "rub a dub dub three men in three tubs went sailing out to sea in tub #1, tub #2 and tub #3... and went alonge nicely with the routine. But I have since forgotten it. Does anyone happen to know it? Thanks. If it's here already and I missed it someway when I searched, sorry.
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rickmagic1
Inner circle
Franklin, TN...where the fences have
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Posted: Jul 9, 2006 9:50am
Check the Mike Skinner issue of Genii magazine from around 2000...if I'm not mistaken, that was Mike's patter...
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Bill Palmer
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Posted: Jul 11, 2006 1:29am
It is by Jack Bateman. Phil Willmarth owns it now.
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EvilGenius
New user
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Posted: Jul 11, 2006 6:39pm
Thanks guys, I had gotten it in the early 90s. Things get lost.
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Autumn Morning Star
Grammar Hostess
Blackfeet Nation
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Posted: Jul 11, 2006 6:49pm
This was standard patter at Zeezo's Magic Castle in Denver for selling this trick. I will try to contact someone who remembers this. You are right, it was very entertaining. The iambic rhythm of the piece was what sold it. I know the first lines are broken up like this:
Rub a dub DUB (dump the balls in your hand)
three men in three TUBS (put first ball down) went sailing OUT (second ball) to sea (PAUSE)(in rhythm with the verbal pause - third ball)
in tub #ONE (first cup goes down) tub #TWO (second cup) and ALSO in tub #THREE (third cup)
The beauty of this rhyme is working within the rhythm. (The capitalized words are just for your own cue. They are not meant to be spoken loudly.) Everything fits so beautifully, almost like a dance.
I will try to find the rest of the poem.
Autumn Morning Star
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Scott Compton
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Posted: Jul 26, 2006 1:52pm
Created by Jack Bateman, whereupon it went to Gene Gordon, and then to Phil Wilmarth. It is a beautiful routine. I have the patter, but as Bill Palmer stated, it is owned by Phil , so I am not at liberty to divulge it to you. It does require 5 balls.
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zimsalabim
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Orlando
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Posted: Aug 5, 2006 8:40pm
Look for Genes Book "Gene Gordon's magical Legacy" I think Dave Ginn published it a long time ago buit worth looking for great read adn lots of stuff including Rub a dub dub
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EvilGenius
New user
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Posted: Aug 13, 2006 3:10pm
Thanks for all the replies. I finally found my copy. I suppose a less than ethical magician sold it to me, unless his is a slight variation. The paper it is typed on says it's by "Dave Mann."
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EvilGenius
New user
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Posted: Aug 13, 2006 6:19pm
I should add that I paid an extra $5 for the poem, so I would take this to mean the poem I received is probably a different version the above mentioned patters. Sorry for the double post, I don't see a way to edit my previous post.
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Bill Palmer
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Posted: Aug 15, 2006 3:06pm
Even if it is a slight variation, it wouldn't be legal. It would have to be major. However, I don't think David would knowingly pinch someone else's work. He probably thought it was in the public domain.
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On 2006-07-11 18:49, Autumn Morning Star wrote:
This was standard patter at Zeezo's Magic Castle in Denver for selling this trick. I will try to contact someone who remembers this. You are right, it was very entertaining. The iambic rhythm of the piece was what sold it. I know the first lines are broken up like this:
Rub a dub DUB (dump the balls in your hand)
three men in three TUBS (put first ball down) went sailing OUT (second ball) to sea (PAUSE)(in rhythm with the verbal pause - third ball)
in tub #ONE (first cup goes down) tub #TWO (second cup) and ALSO in tub #THREE (third cup)
The beauty of this rhyme is working within the rhythm. (The capitalized words are just for your own cue. They are not meant to be spoken loudly.) Everything fits so beautifully, almost like a dance.
I will try to find the rest of the poem.
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That isn't Iambic. Iambic is da - DAH, da - DAH. The bateman poem is da-da-da-DAH, da, da, da, da, DAH.
I can't find what it is, most sites go up to dactylic which is trisylabbic.
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Nicholas
Special user
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Posted: Aug 15, 2006 9:41pm
For those interested, the patter with each move was published in Genii, Nov.7, 2000 issue which was a tribute to Michael Skinner. The article describes an interesting way Skinner had for making this seemingly childish presentation "delightful" to an adult audience.
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RC4MAG
Elite user
486 Posts
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Posted: Aug 29, 2006 2:05pm
Lou Lancaster performs it on one of the IMS videos put out by Tony Hussini called Tricks with a storyline.
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Bryan Gilles
Quality Control
Northern California
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Posted: Sep 16, 2006 4:31am
I have this somewhere around here.. give me a couple days to dig it out...
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paymerich
Special user
Norwalk, CT
543 Posts
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Posted: Jun 11, 2007 4:38pm
Anyone have a copy of the routine they wish to part with ??
Have a Magical Day!
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Pablo Aymerich
Norwalk, CT 06851
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stepp6670
New user
23 Posts
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Posted: Jul 19, 2007 12:07pm
I would love to have a copy of the routine, please pm me.. if you have it.. thank you...been looking for a way to present my cups and balls to a younger crowd
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KOTAH
Inner circle
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Posted: Jul 21, 2007 1:22pm
Am not familiar with the routine, but it seems a bar of soap might make a nice final load.
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Nicholas
Special user
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887 Posts
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Posted: Jul 21, 2007 4:22pm
Kotah,
I don't think it would fit this particular routine. However, I like your idea. How about a routine that ends with three final loads...water, a bar of soap, and a rubber ducky. Oh, what fun!
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KOTAH
Inner circle
1051 Posts
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Posted: Jul 29, 2007 1:27am
Love the rubber ducky idea you suggest. Fun stuff indeed
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Robin DeWitt
Regular user
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Posted: Jul 29, 2007 2:29am
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On 2007-07-21 16:22, Nicholas wrote:
Kotah,
I don't think it would fit this particular routine. However, I like your idea. How about a routine that ends with three final loads...water, a bar of soap, and a rubber ducky. Oh, what fun!
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Archie McPhee has Red Devil Duckies in his catalog. For what it's worth.
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KOTAH
Inner circle
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Posted: Jul 29, 2007 7:33am
Kardor, good to see you're still out there !
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Robin DeWitt
Regular user
160 Posts
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Posted: Jul 29, 2007 3:20pm
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On 2007-07-29 07:33, KOTAH wrote:
Kardor, good to see you're still out there !
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For a while yet, anyway.
Robin
I am the fakir, you....
Robin DeWitt
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paymerich
Special user
Norwalk, CT
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Posted: Jul 30, 2007 4:44pm
No one has a copy ?? I am still looking for a copy ( legal of course).
Have a Magical Day!
The Maniacal Mage
Pablo Aymerich
Norwalk, CT 06851
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Magicmike1949
Special user
527 Posts
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Posted: Apr 27, 2008 2:21pm
This routine is now performed on one of Bill Malone's new DVD's.
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Mark Raven
Inner circle
Virginia
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Posted: Apr 27, 2008 2:46pm
Pablo,
I believe Phil Willmarth has the rights to this now. Perhaps contacting him would be the way to go. Now, how do you go about that? you ask. Hmmmm, off the top of my head, I'm not sure, but I'd bet someone around here might have his conact information.
Mark
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Kipee
Regular user
UK
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Posted: May 5, 2008 12:27pm
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On 2008-04-27 14:21, Magicmike1949 wrote:
This routine is now performed on one of Bill Malone's new DVD's.
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...and youtube.com:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CkFJ6z0ouiQ
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Bill Palmer
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Posted: May 17, 2008 12:04pm
Yes, but if you get it off you tube, you don't have the right to perform it, because you haven't paid for it.
Buy the DVD. Support the artist.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC
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