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kenscott Inner circle 1869 Posts |
Hey I wanted to give everyone the heads up. If you use music in your acts, you may want to check out the magic mag. In Jan issue and Feb issue, Silly Billy is doing his columns on adding sound and music to your show.
I don't do a show now with out my music in my show. I use the Kerry Pollack's showtech. This is a remote controlled mini disc player that can be programed and you control everything. By FAR the best investment I have ever made and I bought it over 10 years ago. I want to give you guys a routine I do as a opener called the magic touch game that uses the showtech. But I did not want to get the note to long, instead I will wait and see if any of you are using music in your acts. Best, Ken Scott |
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Andy Wonder Special user Auckland, New Zealand 747 Posts |
I use music in my birthday party act with a rocky routine, plus after the show I use it with games.
Andy Wonder, Auckland, New Zealand
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Marty Regular user 112 Posts |
Hi: I use music in my birthday shows.
Magic to Music (4 to 6 minutes of music with silent magic--I use old Venture's tunes for the music): 1. Crystal Cabinet––clear production box. I produce a couple bunches of spring flowers, and I also do a funny bit with a Spring Wand. 2. Produce Happy Birthday Banner––this is like a torn and restored newspaper except it's done with a bunch of birthday cards and a birthday banner. 3. D'lite––production of several bright red lights from an empty bag––I pretend to eat each one. 4. Vanishing Coke Bottle--done silently to music kids seem to like it. 5. Appearing, giant, foam tooth. 6. Square Circle––production of sponge hot dogs, two 30 foot silk streamers (which I get tangled up in) and a 36" colorful silk to end the silent (with music) part of the act. Thanks, Marty. |
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
I don't do music in my 1 hour kids shows. If I was doing a 2 hour, I would use music while I do face painting and balloon scluptures. I would like to use music in my 1 hour show but I have to much equipment already.
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Marty Regular user 112 Posts |
Hi: Yes, you're right it takes more equipment. You'll need a boom box for small parties, or even a PA for large groups. I have all this stuff, but I'm beginning to favor a set-up like Andy Walker's, at least for birthday parties. He sits on a box which contains his props (and, I bet he has a small cassette player in there too!). That way he's about on the same level as the kids, and he has less to carry to the gig. Correct me if I'm wrong here Andy. Thanks, Marty.
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Vilago Loyal user 230 Posts |
Ken,
I'd love to hear more about your routine and Showtech. I was reminded how easy it is to add good sounding music to your performance when I saw Jay Scott Berry's lecture awhile ago...he used a portable CD player with the Sony SRS-T77 speakers...great sound and very portable. |
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Andy Wonder Special user Auckland, New Zealand 747 Posts |
Thanks Marty, my system for birthday parties is one I designed myself. I had my father help me build it. The basic idea behind my multi-box is that I wanted something that allowed me to carry everything I need to perform a whole party in one hand.
You can see my multi-box here:My Multi Box It contains a car CD Player that has a remote control so I can operate all the music without ever opening the front. The front opening opens in an unusual way so kids can't open it. The stereo is 45Watts * 4 so it has enough volume to do disco dancing games after the magic show. There is space inside the box to hold all my props I use in my show plus a couple of puppets. Inside the box I have a sealed paste battery mounted in the corner. There is a small attachement on the outside where I plug in my charger. It will give me about 8-9 hours of music before it needs to be recharged. Yes it is the right height to use as a seat & I sometimes sit on during my show as in the picture. In a small room I will stand behind it and use it as a barrier to provide some extra personal space. If anyone is thinking of building something like this themselves, private message me if you want any more info. I am also interested in the Showtech system. How do you operate it Ken? I would love to add music into my school show. It would be nice to add some little bits like a simple Ta-Da sound at the climax of the trick, but you don't want to fumble with a regular remote control for that.
Andy Wonder, Auckland, New Zealand
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kenscott Inner circle 1869 Posts |
Andy
You will love the showtech. http://www.wirelesswizardry.com The system is a small computer that runs mini disc. I can program my show with my tracks in order. I can also control the volume and if I want to fade a track out, I can do that as well. The remotes can be on your ankles and when your bring your ankles together the music starts or stops. I also have a remote that is the size of a small car remote. One of my routines with the showtech is in the magic magazine with David Kaye column. In short, I start my show with the music playing. I have my logo sign on the front of the table and I take my finger and touch the sign and the music stops, when I touch it again it starts back. I do this several times and then I touch the birthday childs finger and the music stops. When I touch the sign again the music DOES NOT come back on for me rather when the Birthday child touches the sign it comes back on. We do this several times and it is typical magician in trouble but making the Birthday child the star of the show at the same time. The starting and stopping of the music is really magic to everyone including the adults. I also use the system to use it for sound effects. Example, I throw a prop behind my curtain and you hear pots and pans crashing down. I also am able to use back ground music to get my helpers during my show. Using music in your show will create emotion. Emagine going to a movie and there is NO sound effects or do drama music for a scary scene. Adding music to my show is a BIG part of my success. A Lot of perfomers DO NOT want to go the extra mile and do it because it is more stuff you have to carry in to a show. I could go on and on about this. I hope this helps you guys. The system is expensive $2,400.00 and the smaller mini tech is $1,200.00 But it truly is investment that will pay for itself over and over again. Ken |
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harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
Sound is very important.
I only use a small c/d for preshow as well as music for my vent and marionette work. In addition I use: 1. Small sound generator for making the magic happen and to gather magic from the crowd. 2. Small device to simulate a fly, although I can also do a similar noise without it, just not as loud. 3. Harmonica for comedy bits and blues ventriloquist number 4. Recently my wife bought me 3 Egg Shaped Rhythm balls that I have been using to juggle with. I am also working on a manipulative routine based on appearances, vanishes and color changes and the sound they make. Thanks for sounding off. Harris
Harris Deutsch aka dr laugh
drlaugh4u@gmail.com music, magic and marvelous toys http://magician.org/member/drlaugh4u |
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JamesinLA Inner circle Los Angeles 3400 Posts |
Harris,
Where did you get the fly sound effect and may I ask what you use it for? I'm looking for the same sound for a future effect I'm considering making. Thanks. Jim
Oh, my friend we're older but no wiser, for in our hearts the dreams are still the same...
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magibrad New user Canada 59 Posts |
OK...here's a question. Now first of all, I'm on a tight budget, so I can't spring for the "magic:" cd's that are advertised on some websites.
But, what do you all use for music? Without words? Where do you get it from? I have used well known music before, but you have to pay for the license so I use it sparingly. I'd like to know what a good source for magic music is though, your help is extremely appreciated! -Brad |
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Andy Wonder Special user Auckland, New Zealand 747 Posts |
Magibrad, I was about to ask the same thing.
Andy Wonder, Auckland, New Zealand
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
Saw Your Article in the Funny Paper Ken Scott regarding Sound Systems and Kids Parties. Great Article!
Dennis Michael
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Vilago Loyal user 230 Posts |
Ken,
I just saw the mention of you in Silly Billy's Magic column...good work! |
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JSMagic Loyal user Boston 202 Posts |
magibrad, I use Bill Whites white magic cd
If a magician is not intending to "trick" a spectator, why is every "trick" called a magic "trick"?
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kenscott Inner circle 1869 Posts |
The ASCAP or license is tricky. But in a nutshell, you only have to pay IF you are doing a public show and people are paying to come to your show. If you are doing private events you pay nothing. In the cases that you are doing public shows, the person or place that is having the function is required to pay it.
Peter M. may remember, there was a column written in the Linking Ring sometime this past year on using music and it had everything you need to know about the fees. I don't remember what issue it was. I want to say it was like May or June of 2002 issue. Ken |
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magibrad New user Canada 59 Posts |
Ya... see... I kinda had to pay it, but it was all right in the end. I just didn't want to get into hot water, and it wasn't all that much. But I'd like to get a cd that's royalty free!
-Brad |
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Tim Zager Loyal user Kansas City 222 Posts |
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On 2003-01-04 00:34, kenscott wrote: Ken, do you know how this applies to school assembly shows or day care facilities? Tim |
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kenscott Inner circle 1869 Posts |
I believe it applies to both. For example, I could use it in my day show for education but if I was to do a family night show where tickets are being sold, I think you have to pay the FEE. However, I think the school market is different from say a theme park.
The fees are really a tricky thing. I know the TOP guys that are performing in Vegas in other big shows are paying FEES. Sorry I am not much help on this. Ken |
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JamesinLA Inner circle Los Angeles 3400 Posts |
Ken,
I use music and sound effects in my shows. It's a great addition. Right now, I'm using music that I cut and mix with shareware that I downloaded. I just use a boom box to play the CD that I burned myself. Jim
Oh, my friend we're older but no wiser, for in our hearts the dreams are still the same...
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