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Jeremy I couldn't have explained it any clearer.

Note: If a person only pull out one suit it doesn't mean that they're N-Strippers. Only when two or more sets are pulled you will actually know.

Respectfully,

Doc

P.S. Imagine pulling 5 different sets of 10 card ppker.
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Very nice handling Doc. A friend of mine was practicing with a N-Stripper the other night and it’s a lot harder than it looks.
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Will thanks for writing. That's why my handling was so clumsy in the video and why I couldn't just pull each set out all at one time perfectly.

Another Reason why most won't learn this technique.

There are two techniques you have to master

1. Making the cards perfectly each time (you will literally mess up many new packs of cards just to get it right because you can't make them with old cards/you can but it won't look right in a game) and....
2. Pulling the cards.

You can make perfect cards and don't know how to pull and it won't work or....
You can pull and don't know how to make the cards and it won't work---

This is why this technique is hardly known because this is the move that beat the cheats who already know the move.

Bottom Line: Many want to go straight to college without going to high school. Doc talk plain to us. Wedge strippers are what magicians are used to which is Elementary School to us cheats but excellent for magical purposes. Belly Strippers is High School stuff and will get the job done at 99% of the gambling tables. N-Strippers are for the elite which is college material. This technique is used to rob the robbers.

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Well it robbed me for sure. I have heard of "combination strippers" but I still got a chill up my spine when saw you pull sets like that. I have never seen anyone do that before.
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Tommy I got a chill up my spine watching that muck move of yours. I still don't know how that bug was situated. I guess I can't know everything.

Combination Strippers, this is the first time I ever heard that name before. It sounds like the correct name for N-Strippers but combination strippers can also mean that you can pull them from the top and side still without being N-Strippers.

Tommy if you were robbed by this technique than as I said this technique is used to rob the robbers meaning he had to come right in order to beat a pro.

Take Care

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Doc, Are these N stippers the same as bathroom strippers? Thanks.
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This is going to be the most astounding thing you've ever heard of. I say this knowing a man of your caliber and your profession... ...must have known some astounding things in his time. What do you know of the Order of the Hospital of Saint John of Jerusalem... ...later known as the Knights of Rhodes. Sit down. In these crusading Knights... ...persuaded Emperor Charles V to give them the Island of Malta. He made but one condition: That they pay him yearly the tribute.... ...in acknowledgement that Malta was still under Spain. Do you follow me? Have you any conception of the extreme... ...the immeasurable wealth of the Order of that time? They were pretty well fixed. "Pretty well" is putting it mildly. They were rolling in wealth, sir. For years they'd taken from the East nobody knows what spoils of gems... ...precious metals, silks, ivory, sir. We all know the Holy Wars to them were largely a matter of loot. The Knights were profoundly grateful to the Emperor Charles... ...for his generosity toward them. They hit upon the thought of sending... ...for his first year's tribute, not an insignificant thing but a magical device! a glorious golden bug... ...crusted from head to foot... ...with the finest jewels in their coffers. Well, sir... ...what do you think of that?

These are facts, historical facts... ...not schoolbook history, not Mr. Wells' history, but history, nevertheless. They sent the jeweled bug to Charles in Spain. They sent it in a galley commanded by a member of the Order. It never reached Spain. A famous admiral of buccaneers... ...took the Knights' galley and the bug. In it turned up in Sicily. In it appeared in Paris. It had, by that time, acquired a coat of black enamel... ...so that it looked nothing more than a fairly interesting black pin. In that disguise, sir, it was, as you may say, kicked around Paris... ...for over three score years by private owners too stupid... ...to see what it was under the skin. Then... ...in a Greek dealer... ...named Charilaos Konstantinides found it in an obscure shop. No thickness of enamel could conceal value from his eyes. - You begin to believe me a little? Well, sir, to hold it safe while pursuing his researches into its history... ...Charilaos re-enameled the bug. Despite this precaution, however, I got wind of his find. If I'd only known a few days sooner. I was in London when I heard. I packed a bag, got on the boat train immediately. On the train I read in the "Times", that Charilaos's establishment... ...had been burglarized and him murdered. Sure enough, on arriving there I discovered the bug was gone. That was years ago. Well, sir, it took me years to locate that bug, but I did. I wanted it! I'm a man not easily discouraged when I want something. I traced it to the home of a Russian general... ...one Kemidov, in an Istanbul suburb. He didn't know a thing about it. It was only a black enameled pin to him... ...but his contrariness kept him from selling it to me... ...when I made him an offer. So I sent him some agents to get it. Well, sir... ...they got it and I hadn't got it... ...but I was going to get it and get it I did. The film that I showed is proof that it is now in my possession . I am willing to sell it for $50,000. Plus postage and packaging. Or your could stick a black pin under table and stick a card in it... that's all I did really.

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So we're cribbing from "The Maltese Falcon?" I salute your taste, Tommy.
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Smile “The Mask of Dimitrios” Is my favourite though;
See this trailer, I’m a devoted Sydney Greenstreet fan!

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Train I'm not bashing you here and I'm definitely not upset at you for your posting that I'm now reading I just have to clarify things for my readers so that they will continue to read my post.

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On 2007-03-25 00:43, Nordatrax wrote:
While it was interesting, I don't quite understand the comments on here.

First, I am sure even doc would be the first to admit stripping technique was fairly obvious. Pull out. Rotate deck. Pull out. Rotate deck. Pull out. It was an interesting concept, but I am not sure why anything like this would be of any use (or at least of enough use to merit the work needed).

Second, the shuffle work was fairly amateurish. The shuffling looked fishy. Again, I am sure doc would be the first to admit this. The hesitation on the shuffle would have me cocking my head asking to look at the deck.

The only thing of any real merit on the video was the shift at the end.

I did enjoy your video on the deck switch work.




First off I'd like to thank you for your compliments, because I was hustling on the road I didn't have time to answer this post but I will now.


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While it was interesting, I don't quite understand the comments on here.


Why not? Are you saying the comments weren't warranted? I guess so because of your last statement.

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The only thing of any real merit on the video was the shift at the end.
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So what you're saying is I sit around making up gambling moves that doesn't have any real merit just to have something to do? Wow, now that's a low blow but I can take it.

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First, I am sure even doc would be the first to admit stripping technique was fairly obvious. Pull out. Rotate deck. Pull out. Rotate deck. Pull out.


So stripping is very obvious...(I guess so after I post it under stripping) well then so what you're telling me is that you can tell the difference between a real strip cut, up the ladder strip cut and a strip out cut which all look exactly the same from just looking at anyone strip cutting a deck? Explain to this forum what super powers that you posses that you will know this just by looking because as far as I know, no one can do that?

You may do gambling sleights that you've learned out of books etc. but you definitely sound like you have no real hands on training in this area (meaning at the card table). Why? Because the individuals who complimented me on this know the real application of this technique of which you claim that you don't.

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It was an interesting concept, but I am not sure why anything like this would be of any use (or at least of enough use to merit the work needed).


I answered this question already but since you wasn't paying attention I'll tell you again; It's for cheating cheaters. The concept of a 5-way 10 card poker deal is unfanthomable to a hustler as it was to 99% of every one at this forum who saw this technique.

Why The Stripping Technique is Used

The main reason for this technique is that the hustler who's cheating can not deal seconds or bottoms etc.
The next main reason is that the hustler can say when the sucker is losing "well you dealt the cards."

First off the Ten Card Poker Deal that ya'll magicians do came from the card table and it is done with a 9 card stripper deck; not 10 as ya'll claim it to be. The 9 cards are stripped to the top of the deck and the 10th card 95% of the time doesn't match the suckers hand therefore making him lose the poker bet. Note: This technique is also done with the cards stripped to the bottom of the deck for a bottom dealer.

The 9 card set up is also used for playing head-up Tonk.
The 9 card set up is also used for playing head-up Knock Rummy.
The 9 card set up is also used for playing head-up Gin Rummy.
The 9/21 card set up is also used for playing head-up Coon-Can.
The 9 card set up is also used for playing head-up Casino.
The 9 card set up is also used for playing Georgia-Skin.
The 9 card set up is also used for playing a head-up game called Pitch/Set-Back.
The 9 card set up is used for playing a game called Whoppi and don't let me start talking about the "Book and Playing the Opposite."

For reference to other card games Consult Your H.C. Evans or K.C. Card Co. Catalog.

Note: Basically every second rate hustler knows about the above combinations and their applications why not you? Because you demonstrate and don't play. God help you if you do play and didn't know this.

Now for what wasn't obvious....I didn't not pull out, rotate, pull out rotate, pull out rotate. I pulled all from the same side before I went to the other side.

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Second, the shuffle work was fairly amateurish. The shuffling looked fishy. Again, I am sure doc would be the first to admit this. The hesitation on the shuffle would have me cocking my head asking to look at the deck.


Thank you for the compliment because that's how a real hustler's shuffle is suppose to look ESPECIALLY if he was shuffling that way for real. Duh! Why would I false shuffle if I'm (obviously) going to strip the cards out? Where's the logic to that statement. The only reason my shuffle looked fishy to you is because you're so paranoid because you're jap wise, you think every natural move is a move even when it's not.

I wrote this not to bash nor insult you but you questioned my integrety and insulted my work in front of my readers and students while you act like you know what you're talking about when your really don't. This is what confused me when I first started out...listening to magicians who don't gamble but act like they are an authority on the subject because they can do a few good gambling sleights.

I'll tell what when we meet I want you to pull the same cards out of my deck better than I did in my clumsy video and then I'll shut up. I'll post the results of this meeting between us to this forum.

You are about to visit one of my teachers, Wesley James and he don't produce bad students and I now represent the knowledge he passed on to me.

Respectfully,

Doc
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Wow, a lot of animosity!

Let me clarify some of my statements-

First, any compliments I paid you I meant. I thought the shift was great and some of your other videos, including the deck switch work, is fantastic. So, I didn't pay those comments to you because I was being faciecious. I meant every word.

Second, I didn't mean any low blow, as you put it. I apologize if you took it that way, as it wasn't my intent.

Third, the striping out wasn't in the context of a running cut (or any variant of the sort). You pulled out the cards and showed them. I figured you were doing this to demonstrate the technique. So I DID think it was obvious, but as you point out, in the context of a running cut it might be much more deceptive.

Fourth, you are correct. I am not a hustler, and honestly, I have no training at the card table. So I didn't realize that applications, and I STILL don't understand! And, again, in regards to the shuffling, I am a magician, not a hustler, so I WANT to look like I know what I'm doing, where as that might be counter-productive as a hustler (well, that's what I've read at least Smile

Finally, I look forward to meeting up! I would love to play with the strippers (insert joke there).

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On 2007-04-22 02:01, Nordatrax wrote:
Wow, a lot of animosity!

Let me clarify some of my statements-

First, any compliments I paid you I meant. I thought the shift was great and some of your other videos, including the deck switch work, is fantastic. So, I didn't pay those comments to you because I was being faciecious. I meant every word.


In my heart Train I know you meant every word that you said that's why I first said thank you for your compliments. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Second, I didn't mean any low blow, as you put it. I apologize if you took it that way, as it wasn't my intent.


I know you didn't say anything intentionally and your apology is accepted and I forgive you but I can read between the lines very well and even though you didn't mean to hit me below the belt, you did and as a result I had to clarify your evaluation and explain to my readers what you said was wrong according to my view point.

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Third, the striping out wasn't in the context of a running cut (or any variant of the sort). You pulled out the cards and showed them. I figured you were doing this to demonstrate the technique. So I DID think it was obvious, but as you point out, in the context of a running cut it might be much more deceptive.


Yes I pulled the cards out to show how many sets can be pulled with the N-Stripper technique but to me this is not a fair evaluation on my behalf because of my first footage of which I showed me pulling and stacking at the same time. One showed what actually can be done in a game and the other of which you saw show how many different sets can be pulled.

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Fourth, you are correct. I am not a hustler, and honestly, I have no training at the card table. So I didn't realize that applications, and I STILL don't understand! And, again, in regards to the shuffling, I am a magician, not a hustler, so I WANT to look like I know what I'm doing, where as that might be counter-productive as a hustler (well, that's what I've read at least Smile


You know what Train, and since I'm not a legendary magician like yourself this is where I would need your help. There is nothing wrong with one hand washing the other and both hands washing the face meaning, we both lack in particular areas of our specialty where we both need help in and I don't mind helping you if you don't mind helping me. I have nothing against you and I would definintelly love to meet you as well. I had to clarify particulars for my students and I HAD TO USE THIS as a teaching lesson for them to understand what they need to know.

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Finally, I look forward to meeting up! I would love to play with the strippers (insert joke there).


I look forward to meeting up with you too and talking some mess (smile) and we will definitely mess around with some strippers.

Take Care and may the Lord bless you and your family.

Talk to you soon partner


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Doc is taken back to school and reprimanded by one of his teachers...meaning I was told to take down this video.

A student must always listen and respect his teachers advice....so I did.


Respectfully,

Doc

P.S. Now where's that Dunce Cap at again?
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Train was taken back to school as well...

To pull with cards as fine as Doc's is very VERY hard. I take back comments, and thank Doc for spending over 10 hours STRAIGHT working with me.

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Ben

It was an honor meeting you and your friend Ray and I definitely enjoyed hanging out with ya'll.

Take Care

Doc
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The honor was all mine.
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