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magicgettogether Special user Michigan 556 Posts |
Abbotts is using a new store, the link to the parasol above will not work in a few days, the new link is
http://www.abbottmagic.com/Abbotts-Mutil......asol.htm |
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Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts |
I've been doing the Mutilated Parasol for around 40 years..I use Abbott's Mutilated Parasol, and I'm on my third one. It's a standard in my Platform shows, and I use it as a pre-closer (second to last trick) followed by the Hippity Hop Rabbits to close my shows.
I had Greg and the Abbott's crew refresh my third mutilated parasol this past August when I was in Colon....and during the process...had kind of an extended conversation with Greg Bordner, Hank Moorehouse and Mike Miller about the process they use at Abbott's to make their Mutilated Parasols. It seems that all the Magic Manufacturers who make a Mutilated Parasol are somewhat at the mercy, so-to-speak, of the manufacturers who make the parasol ribs, as they are, in fact, quite simply the frames used to make umbrellas. These frames tend to vary widely in terms of the strength, thickness, and overall construction, and this will have an impact on the overall design and execution of the Mutilated Parasol prop. Once the manufacturer, Abbott's or anyone else, has the ribs, they more or less build the rest of the Mutilated Parasol around them. Part of the reason I mention this is that I understand from this conversation that the ribs can vary in thickness and strength, and that this will make a difference on the weight and type of silks that can be attached to the ribs..........5 momme VS 8 momme.......square cut VS diamond silks, etc. When I look at my Abbott's Parasol, it's just built like a tank....VERY well made, beautiful 8 momme silks and a beautiful tie died parasol cover, hand-fitted, hand-sewn and hand-finished, and the prop is made from brass..its solid.....foolproof....and built to troupe. I see they they have gone up again in price.....but I honestly believe that they are worth every penny and then some. Also, for what it's worth, I've found over the years that the best presentation I can use always has the assistant holding the cover say the magic words that restore the cover at the end. It just works. |
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Mary Mowder Inner circle Sacramento / Elk Grove, CA 3659 Posts |
I have an Abbott's Mutilated Parasol which I have never used because I haven't found music or worked on a routine I liked. You have all inspired me to get at it. It is just so beautifully colorful.
Thank you, Mary Mowder |
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Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Mary,
Do you know the great nancini here on The Café. The ladies can use this prop with much more latitude than the guys can. You two should talk. Bob Sanders Magic By Sander PS --- It is even possible to change the colors to match certain themes. Ask her! |
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Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts |
Or, Bob...NO COLOR WHATSOEVER.....!
One of the cooolest props I ever owned was a Magic Hands Mutiliated Parasol......black and white silks, a black, snap, bag to parasol cover, and the parasol cover was also alternating black and white. I discussed the "removal of color" theme one day at length with Jack of Goldfinger and Dove...for those who have seen them their act is "a riot of color". Think "silk bleaching" VS "silk dyeing"....... It makes sense as a "contrast point" when doing an act that is literally a "riot of color". |
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
Gee maybe I should add some color to my act?
Richard
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
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Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts |
Richard:
Hmmmmmmmmmmm........Triple Color Removing Botania Cylinders? If it weren't for COLOR, buddy, you'd be outta business! Ha! |
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John Martin Inner circle 1017 Posts |
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I have an Abbott's Mutilated Parasol which I have never used because I haven't found music or worked on a routine I liked. You have all inspired me to get at it. It is just so beautifully colorful. Singing in the Rain It's Rainning Men Here Comes The Rain Again A Little Fall of Rain(Les Miserables) I Wish it Would Rain (The Temptations) Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head Good luck, John |
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Regan Inner circle U.S.A. 5726 Posts |
Rain (The Beatles)
Who'll Stop The Rain (CCR) Have You Ever Seen The Rain (CCR) Bring On The Rain (Jo Dee Messina) November Rain (Guns 'n Roses) There must be a million.....well....almost a million 'rain" songs! Regan
Mister Mystery
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chmara Inner circle Tucson, AZ 1911 Posts |
I have used several models -- always went back to (and am now selling below) -- my Abbotts. Best, easiest and most versatile.
You do not have to use the back and forth transition if the routine you are doing is not helped by it -- but if you change-up shows when doing a longer run -- it is nice to vary to use, or not use, all the features of a prop. I see the new price is at Abbotts is $450 -- which says a lot --it is a pro piece to be worked. ..and that price should keep the merely curious one show a year to see how everything works (as cheaply as possible) tyros away.
Gregg (C. H. Mara) Chmara
Commercial Operations, LLC Tucson, AZ C. H. Mara Illusion & Psychic Entertainments |
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RJE Inner circle 1848 Posts |
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On 2009-11-01 18:29, Mary Mowder wrote: Good luck on your musical search and remember, unless you're going to use royalty free music, please do the right thing and pay the appropriate user fees when using someone else's music. |
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Mary Mowder Inner circle Sacramento / Elk Grove, CA 3659 Posts |
Thanks to all for the advice.
RJE - You're right! I am a professional so I am using royalty free music for my act. I have several disks from White, Jay Scott Berry etc...I also use the web to search. It takes hours to find one song that is compatible and then to "fix" it in Garage Band on my Mac. I've often wished I could use popular songs.To whom does one pay the user fee. It's probably out of my range as far as price goes. I'm new here so I'm worried about wandering off topic. Thanks again for the input. I'm really enjoying the Café. -Mary Mowder |
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eb02 Special user 680 Posts |
If any one is interesting I have for sale the version sold at Hocus Pocus and call naked umbrella. This is a well made mutilated parasol set.
PM if interesting.
Eran Blizovsky
www.magic4business.net |
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vincentmagic New user 37 Posts |
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On 2007-03-07 08:42, Zazz wrote: I just bought the Abbott's mutilated Parasol. It cost me over $510.00 with shipping. I was disappointed. I thought it would look like in the youtube videos. It does not. I got the package in a thin cardboard box. I openned it and when I opened the bag with the hankies inside, there were small scrunched up hankies that were tiny, out of shape and looked nothing like the ones in the video. When I opened the Umbrella, black paint chips fell all over the place. Then I noticed a white patch on the top of the umbrella. I had to re-paint the column and the top of the umbrella. I also noticed that you have to hold the umbrella and open or it does not stay open on it's own. Beware. When it comes to Abbott's, what you see is not what you get. The ones in the youtube videos are the olds ones that they used to sell but do not sell anymore. Buyers beware. |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
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On 2011-03-03 17:32, vincentmagic wrote: I suggest you take up your concerns with Abbott's, the Café cannot resolve your purchase concerns. As with everything now-a-days, I do not believe Abbott's makes their Multilated Parsaol themselves. It is made in Italy I think. You concern of the small hanks, what size did you get, did you measure them? You have not given a size. As far as whit on the tip, that is what is shown in one of the videos on the site. That is more of a personal choice, I do not see how that affects the working of the trick. A little paint chipped off, I do not see how this is any concern as the audience never sees the staff or stem of the umbrella. It looks like the metal was not completely cleaned before painting. What this Multilated Parasol has over others it the ability to push the umbrella from either end into the tube of newspaper. Also the umbrella is wrapped in the paper with both ends sticking out of the newspaper. That is not a feature of any other umbrella on the market. It is all about the ease of working in a show act. After you learn the routine and perform the effect a few times, why not let us know how it went. That is the most important feature of the apparatus. |
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
Abbott's does make their own parasol. Some of the silks may be imported. But they definitely make their own parasols. When the source for ribs went out of business in this country, Greg had to go overseas to find a new source. That is why the ribs are just a little longer.
Do contact Greg and I am sure he will make it right with you. He cannot help you if you do not tell him. Richard
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
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Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts |
The ribs are ALWAYS an issue with a good quality mutilated parasol. Thinner ribs means more room for a heavier grade of silk. Thicker ribs mean less room for heavier grades of silk, so Abbott's is now using diamond-cut silks. The plus side is that the heavier ribs mean that the parasol holds up better.
I switched my diamond-cut silks to a set I bought from Jay Scott Berry...I like them better....they are fuller-looking which means more color when you twirl the silk. Any problems with an Abbott's purchase should be discussed with Greg Bordner. Greg has always given me great customer service and has stood behind the props I have bought from them. The mutilated parasol is a standard in my school assembly shows, kid shows, and platform act. |
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vincentmagic New user 37 Posts |
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On 2007-03-07 08:42, Zazz wrote: I have just bought Abbott's Mutilated parasol. Here is an honest review of it. Having seen and heard about how good it is, I went and paid a great deal of money for one. Here is my honest costly experience. I received a cardboard box. I opened it and saw a parasol and bag. Inside the bag were small scrunched up hankies which looked about 9 inchs and were cut in half. Nothing like the hankies in the videos I saw of the trick on the web. Then I opened my parasol. Black paint chips fell all over the floor. Also, I noticed a white patch where the red material should have been. I had to re-paint the top and column. Also, the parasol did not stay open. I had to hold it open too. I also had to repair the inside of the bag which had a hole in it. I expected more for a price tag including shipping of over $500.00. I was greatly dissappointed especially when I asked Abbott's to carefully check my parasol before sending it to me. They did not. I now have to replace the hankies which are unsatisfactory. The ones on youtube were the mutilated parasols they used to sell but no longer do. BUYERS BEWARE. What you see on the web is not what you will get. Youre truthfully and truly, Vincent. |
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vincentmagic New user 37 Posts |
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On 2011-03-03 18:19, wmhegbli wrote: Everyone has a right to speak the truth and you cannot tell someone they are not allowed to speak and share their experiences. Maybe you think you are the only person with the right opinion, but everyone is equal here and has the right to speak up. I have the right to speak the truth and nobody is going to tell me otherwise sir. |
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Spellbinder Inner circle The Holy City of East Orange, NJ 6438 Posts |
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On 2009-09-27 03:43, videoman wrote: Someone wrote me recently to ask for permission to use my routine. If I didn't intend to let others use it, I would never have described it here, so naturally I said "yes." Then I saw the old thread back up again and realized I hadn't answered videoman's question about why the umbrella was wet every night. As it happened, I did this trick following an MC who used a squirting flower gag. He couldn't squirt the audience without getting in trouble with the management, so we worked out that he would give a few squirts in their direction, introduce me and then let me have it when I came out. I opened my black umbrella and fought him off with a squirt gun. The audience enjoyed the little feud between the "little squirt" and the "old fogie" but that was how my umbrella got wet every night, with no rain to speak of.
Professor Spellbinder
Professor Emeritus at the Turkey Buzzard Academy of Magik, Witchcraft and Wizardry http://www.magicnook.com Publisher of The Wizards' Journals |
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