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Jared Inner circle Rhode Island, USA 1573 Posts |
I experimented with a different approach last night. After the spectator signs the quarter I take it back and casually show the initials on both sides while remarking that "there's only one coin in the world with this date and your initials." Then I reach into my pocket remove another quarter and hand it to a biggest guy inviting him to try and bend it. "Here...bend this."
During this casual by play you of course do the work. Trust me that there's so much misdirection that you could bend an entire roll of quarters in this amount of time! -Jared |
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Ustaad Inner circle Iindia - States 6157 Posts |
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On 2011-03-26 14:50, Jared wrote: Great! A perfect misdirection. Thank you for sharing your idea.
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Jared Inner circle Rhode Island, USA 1573 Posts |
Usstad,
I'm glad that you like the idea. It's nice to have a variety of misdirection techniques at your disposal that you can pick from and choose from depending on the performing conditions. A second benefit of my suggestion is that it strengthens the overall effect because it makes it seem that much more impossible....Here's a big tough guy that can't bend the coin and here you are doing it with your mental abilities -Jared |
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10795 Posts |
Love it! Thanks Jared. This would be perfect for those repeat moments when you need another idea available. I might just bend a roll just for fun.
I would like to hear how you or others do the reveal - I do the "waterfall" going down first - thumb puushing over pointer. Then I do a 2nd one to really bend it ... With the specs forefinger out and the bend showing upwards. Any groovier ideas?
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juggernought Regular user 200 Posts |
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On 2011-03-26 20:06, saysold1 wrote: I like the idea too. However, while you have ample opportunity for the bend, I think you need to do the bend as soon as possible and hold the coin clearly at the fingertips and with your hand far away from you. Too much time with the coin out of sight and the attention on someone else might lead people to the right conclusion: that you 'did something' during that time. However, this idea could be very good for some circumstances. In reply to how to do the reveal, I ALWAYS have the spectator close the coin in his fist and squeeze and talk about the heat of his hand warming the coin up. Through suggestion, you can even get people to believe that they are feeling the coin bending in their hands. This really is an incredible effect! One of the strongest things I do! Thanks to John for this wonderful device. The more I use it, the more I love it (i have had it for over a year now and use it almost every day!) |
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nonvpro Inner circle 1844 Posts |
I've said it before and I will say it again. This kicks A--!!! I can't begin to tell you how many people come back to me and bring the "bent quarter thing".
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10795 Posts |
This is in my pocket daily.
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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
Nice one Jared. What it provides is a "mirroring" of the strong guy vs the performer. Absolutley justified as both of youse try to bend the quarter B4 the "force" being demonstrated.
After bending tons of coins over the years now, it gets routine for me but Im amazed also at how strong this is. I hear about it months if not years later. DC
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10795 Posts |
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I just hope I never get contacted by the Treasury Department for all that bent $$$
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John T. Sheets Inner circle Las Vegas, USA 1105 Posts |
Hi Guys,
I just want to address this issue as many people have had concerns while bringing this to my attention. Yes, there is yet another Quantum Bender knock-off making the rounds. Be aware of the knock-offs as they are VERY poorly manufactured and they lack the subtle design elements that make the QB2 so great. I think the design and the mechanics that have been engineered into the QB2 device has been misunderstood by those who are ripping it off. There are many reasons the QB2 was designed specifically the way it was, with it's many important design features built in. I can't tell you how many countless prototypes, and design changes I went through to find out what works best and why. I have invested many countless hours, blood, sweat, and tears into this project. As many of you know the QB2 is the original bender of it's type, and is used world wide by many of the top professionals in the industry. I have been contacted by a few people that have made the mistake of purchasing a knock off just to save money, and who are now VERY disappointed. Again, you should know there are many misunderstood design flaws in the knock-offs. The biggest thing that sets the QB2 apart from all of the other benders is the Pivoting Joint. Which I created exclusively for the QB2. One of the knock offs has now started using my creation of the Pivoting Joint without my permission. Which again is NOT machined as precise, or as well as the original and has other problematic and overlooked flaws, etc.. If you are considering the purchase of a QB2, I would STRONGLY suggest that you purchase one through a reputable dealer, or myself. I cannot stand behind the knock-offs, and no, I cannot take them in as a trade in towards the real deal. The QB2 may sound expensive at first glance, yes I know. However, it pays for itself in NO TIME AT ALL with just a gig or two. Also the reputation it generates as well as the many repeat bookings, make it very well worth every penny. It is a prop that will last a lifetime, and is a great tool to have in any serious performers arsenal. It is also supported and endorsed by countless well known names. I won't name drop here though. Also, I will and do offer unlimited support, direction, and help, etc. to anyone who purchases an original QB2. So feel free to contact me anytime. In closing I want to say thank you for all of your support and understanding, and for making the right ethical choice in purchasing your bender. Thanks again for standing behind the original, and I do look forward in being a part of your magical endeavors. Magically, John
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nonvpro Inner circle 1844 Posts |
John,
Please charge more for your QB2! |
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10795 Posts |
John- a few weeks ago I saw the new knock off made by someone in CA I believe.
Utter garbage compared to the genuine article. At first glance - ya, looks like the real deal. Look closer and you discover the fake and bake unit is made of the cheapest MILD STEEL (not stainless). This still is very soft compared to your high end stainless. In addition the critical "pivot joint" was machined at the wrong angles, and not rounded - hence putting all the stress on the cheap steel body rather than on the coin. The unit I saw was already falling apart because of this after a small # of bends. Steel rusts too - stainless doesn't. The joint also was loose and partially mis-alligned. The copy had two magnets built in as "an improvement" but in reality the insertion of these. In the body further weakened the structure - and magnets stayed in place precisely because the body was made of cheap steel - not expensive stainless. Having the genuine QB2 in hand and having used it daily since last November I can say that the unit still looks brand new, works 100% like the day I received it, and shows no signs of wear. This thing is bullet proof. People don't realize that this is a VERY VERY highly engineered tool. There are high end materials used and mathematics and engineering with high tolerances that make the REAL Quantum Bender worth every quarter! Caveat emptor.
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idomagic Loyal user Denver, CO 255 Posts |
Beat coin bender ever. I have never seen a knockoff of anything that was ever as good as the original. Think Meteors and other highend products. If you don't make enough money, or are not committed enough to your hobby, to buy the good props, don't do the trick. Just my two-cents.
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John T. Sheets Inner circle Las Vegas, USA 1105 Posts |
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On 2011-04-28 10:35, nonvpro wrote: It's unreal how many people have told me that. I've had many professionals tell me that it should have been a minimum of a grand. I think it may be too late for that now.
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nonvpro Inner circle 1844 Posts |
I still think this should cost more. I've had a good number of non-professional magicians over the past 6 months come into the venues where I perform and strike up a conversation with me after my set at their table. Almost everyone of them comment on the "Quarter Bent" and ask me questions about it (fishing). When I explain to them the cost for a QB2, the comment I most often get is that they would buy it except they can't afford it. I've had some of them come back several times into the bar area and ask for me and request the "Quarter Bent" again fishing. Perfect!!!
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10795 Posts |
Yes this is the one I saw - garbage. Utter c**p.
The name itself is also blatently stupid as it gives away the method. The ad brags its the best steel - ya right, but not high end stainless. Even if it was a PERFECT duplicate (its not even close), this product appears to be an outright copy of a quality product. Time to send a cease and desist perhaps... The gibberish on this clowns web site mentioning that Sheets would replace a pin is also a low blow.
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John T. Sheets Inner circle Las Vegas, USA 1105 Posts |
That bender is a knock off of the original QB2. The magnet was my idea in the first place, and I told James Clark about it over 3 years ago as an idea that I had for the QB2 (I also told others about it too, one being Gregory Wilson, over 6 years ago). I decided NOT to add the magnet for several reasons. One being that it would occasionally pinch the skin VERY hard. It also compromises the strength of the device as there is now less material in the vital area of the bender, where it really needs it's strength. After making many prototypes and variations, and with extensive testing, I determined that the QB2 was indeed BETTER WITHOUT the magnet.
The QB2 slot is PRECICLEY made the way it is, to be able to bend a variety of coins on the spot, and not just one specific coin at any given time. Also, the unique design of the QB2 allows you to show the coin still flat after the work has already been done. This is such a cool feature that helps make the QB2 stand out among other benders. This technique is also covered more in detail on the QB2 DVD. The QB2 was set at it's price point for a reason. It's not only the best, but also to keep it somewhat exclusive. This was meant to be for the professional and the serious amateur. Not every kid that could afford it with his allowance money, only to expose it on YouTube. About the other benders ad. Yes, he threw me under the bus in the ad. It does have a reference to me and the pin replacement. It's total BS and he knows it. I'm very happy to help anyone, with any problem, any time, and he know that too! Kinda odd that he came out with this even after he had me sign a "no compete agreement", which he also signed too. Hmmm, How nice. Stay clear of this guy and the knockoffs. You will be happy you did. Thanks again for supporting the original and choosing the genuine QB2!
www.johnTsheets.com
See the "Quantum Bender 3.0" trailer here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkTVw9FjonE See my Dove Act here... https://youtu.be/Ms7_u46Qpp0 See the "Energy Bender" trailer here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpJOfL0k8xA See the "Table of Death" in Las Vegas trailer here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YivizLAKD7I |
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Jon_Thompson Inner circle Darkest Cheshire 2404 Posts |
Why can't people come up with their own effects and products? Why so many "me too!" rip-offs? Is there really so little imagination? Surely the amount of effort this guy has put into ripping off would have made him more money if he created something original.
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rmendez Inner circle San Antonio, Texas 1253 Posts |
Received mine last Friday and was extremely impressed by the precision and quality to say the least. I can only imagine how much of a piece of $hit the rip-off could be in comparison. Do yourself a favor. Spend the extra money, support the creator and insist on this first class original. Honestly, there is no rivaling substitute. I watched the video and got the handling and misdirection down after about five or six quarters and absolutely SLAYED with this at a party I went to on Saturday! I will confess that I am a very experienced close-up entertainer but this positively kicks ***! Coupled with my Mini MD, Baby Hornet, Final Answer routined with my chop cup along with a plethora of other age old classics, I am performing what I believe to be the absolute strongest effects possible on this planet!
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rmendez Inner circle San Antonio, Texas 1253 Posts |
It not only sickens me but ****es me off to see pathetic vermin steal much less reproduce garbage with inferior quality. I wish there was a way shut this shameless maggot down and ban him from attending any magic conventions. QB2 is worth far more than what I spent because it looks like it will last a lifetime and has provided me with the ability to create yet another emotional and powerful experience for my spectators. Gregory Wilson said it best: "The Quantum Bender makes us maladjusted social misfit magic geeks look like powerful superheroes....cape not included" I've actually had to fight the urge to purchase another one just to keep as a backup because I know that it will just sit there and collect dust
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