The Magic Café
Username:
Password:
[ Lost Password ]
  [ Forgot Username ]
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » The workers » » Favourites from Charles Jordan's Best Card Tricks (2 Likes) Printer Friendly Version

 Go to page [Previous]  1~2
Rupert Pupkin
View Profile
Special user
521 Posts

Profile of Rupert Pupkin
Quote:
On Aug 13, 2017, JBSmith1978 wrote:
Funny though. Dead Reckoning is a slayer. Also I have a version of Aronson's Flash Speller that not only fools but kills both laymen and magicians. Thanks Michael Vincent for the inspiration.

As an aside, every now and then spelling is suitable for TTTCBE.


I ALMOST mentioned Dead Reckoning, then thought the better of it. The less people know that trick, the better.

Dead Reckoning isn't your typical "spell to a selection" routine. You DO spell to the selection, but that's not the crux of the trick. The crux of the trick is you read their friggin' mind. That you also found their card is secondary to the magic.

How is it suitable for TTTCBE? (Other than methodologically, obviously.)
JBSmith1978
View Profile
Loyal user
NY
225 Posts

Profile of JBSmith1978
I completely agree. Although to be honest I haven't performed Aragon's spelling effect.
As for TTTCBE, much like Dead Reckoning if framed correctly spelling can be used to
indicate a thought of card.

What's really fun is to lead to the card with an outrageous story ala Sam The Bellhop
and end with a card spell. Tell the impromptu story and stop shy of the target. Use
flash spell to arrive at the card.
Rupert Pupkin
View Profile
Special user
521 Posts

Profile of Rupert Pupkin
Quote:
On Aug 13, 2017, JBSmith1978 wrote:
As for TTTCBE, much like Dead Reckoning if framed correctly spelling can be used to
indicate a thought of card.


Gotcha. I thought you were referencing the traditional named-card approach.

Although I think that perfectly illustrates the larger problem with TTTCBE. You're starting at a disadvantage, and you're relegating yourself to potential misfires, like spelling to a card.
JBSmith1978
View Profile
Loyal user
NY
225 Posts

Profile of JBSmith1978
I used to think that too. It's all in how you present your intention.
I have done TTTCBE with some of the most circuitous logic and
have been astounded by the results.
magicfish
View Profile
Inner circle
5040 Posts

Profile of magicfish
Quote:
On Aug 13, 2017, JBSmith1978 wrote:
Funny though. Dead Reckoning is a slayer. Also I have a version of Aronson's Flash Speller that not only fools but kills both laymen and magicians. Thanks Michael Vincent for the inspiration.

As an aside, every now and then spelling is suitable for TTTCBE.


Correct. Contrary to pumpkins claim, Aronson's absolutely kills.

P.s. what's hot rod?
Rupert Pupkin
View Profile
Special user
521 Posts

Profile of Rupert Pupkin
Quote:
On Aug 13, 2017, magicfish wrote:
Quote:
On Aug 13, 2017, JBSmith1978 wrote:
Funny though. Dead Reckoning is a slayer. Also I have a version of Aronson's Flash Speller that not only fools but kills both laymen and magicians. Thanks Michael Vincent for the inspiration.

As an aside, every now and then spelling is suitable for TTTCBE.


Correct. Contrary to pumpkins claim, Aronson's absolutely kills.

P.s. what's hot rod?


Sponge Bunnies kills, too. "Hokey" and "killer" aren't mutually exclusive.

However, I seem to recall Simon's Flash Speller being a variation of Marlo's mnemonic and not an actual routine. I sold that book a long time ago but I'll have to crack open a copy when I get a chance and check out this slayer. I do recall his variation on Marlo's system being excellent.
magicfish
View Profile
Inner circle
5040 Posts

Profile of magicfish
If you are telling the truth, and being genuine, then why are you equating it to Hokey, Hot Rod, Sponge Bunnies, and putting down Aronson?.
Marlo's Flash Speller is excellent and Aronson's Variations allows for veritable miracles.
The more you post here, the more you betray your lack of knowledge/experience. Which would be ok if you weren't constantly, contrarily inflating your own ego.
It is disgraceful.
Rupert Pupkin
View Profile
Special user
521 Posts

Profile of Rupert Pupkin
Quote:
On Aug 13, 2017, magicfish wrote:
If you are telling the truth, and being genuine, then why are you equating it to Hokey, Hot Rod, Sponge Bunnies, and putting down Aronson?.
Marlo's Flash Speller is excellent and Aronson's Variations allows for veritable miracles.
The more you post here, the more you betray your lack of knowledge/experience. Which would be ok if you weren't constantly, contrarily inflating your own ego.
It is disgraceful.


No, I was arguing your LOGIC. Just because something kills doesn't make it good. That's all you offered: it kills. So that's what I argued: that doesn't necessarily matter.

But clearly this is a matter of taste. I think spelling tricks, by and large, are lame. You don't. That doesn't indicate lack of experience on either of our parts.

I actually use Flash Speller, by the way. But not in a spelling routine Smile Thanks for reminding me of Aronson's variation!
Ben Blau
View Profile
Inner circle
1171 Posts

Profile of Ben Blau
There are important things to be learned from this book beyond tricks, IMO.
Rupert Pupkin
View Profile
Special user
521 Posts

Profile of Rupert Pupkin
Quote:
On Aug 13, 2017, Ben Blau wrote:
There are important things to be learned from this book beyond tricks, IMO.


Interesting! What do you have in mind?

(I know what I would say. But I'm curious about your answer.)
Ben Blau
View Profile
Inner circle
1171 Posts

Profile of Ben Blau
Charles Jordan was the first (to my knowledge) to introduce the idea of the inefficiency of the riffle Shuffle, and o** w** faces.
Rupert Pupkin
View Profile
Special user
521 Posts

Profile of Rupert Pupkin
Quote:
On Aug 13, 2017, Ben Blau wrote:
Charles Jordan was the first (to my knowledge) to introduce the idea of the inefficiency of the riffle Shuffle, and o** w** faces.


He wasn't exactly the first on either, but he was a pioneering figure whose work on both principles was and remains groundbreaking.

I do believe he was the first magician to use Grey Codes in a relatively commercial context -- and without fully understanding their mathematical heft. So impressive.
Claudio
View Profile
Inner circle
Europe
1120 Posts

Profile of Claudio
"The Premo". It's a fantastic effect which has recently been updated by modern authors.

The write-up in the Karl Fulves book does not do it justice though, as it leaves out some of Jordan's best ideas. You're better off getting a copy of "Thirty Card Mysteries" to fully appreciate Jordan's thinking.
magicfish
View Profile
Inner circle
5040 Posts

Profile of magicfish
Hideo Kato is the Jordan authority.
Maxyedid
View Profile
Loyal user
Panama
226 Posts

Profile of Maxyedid
I have red and re-red this book many times, but I could never find not even one "usable" thing. It seems to me that the book is very rich on concepts and ideas, but they still need development to become fully workable pieces. I believe talented people could take many, many ideas from this book and turn them into amazing things. Unfortunately I am not one of those 😀

I believe that to really appreciate this book you need to know a lot about magic.
Maxyedid
View Profile
Loyal user
Panama
226 Posts

Profile of Maxyedid
Talented people like Hideo Kato, Karl Fulves, Tamariz, etc they can read this book and go "amazing! Incredible! A genius!". Most magicians go "uh?".

Yesterday the Vice President of US was here and the city was almost literally closed. I was stuck in traffic for about an hour more or less. I was reading the Liu Cheng issue of Magic Mag. It said that Liu learned japanese ONLY so he could speak with Mr. Kato. So go figure.
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » The workers » » Favourites from Charles Jordan's Best Card Tricks (2 Likes)
 Go to page [Previous]  1~2
[ Top of Page ]
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2017 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved.
This page was created in 0.13 seconds requiring 5 database queries.
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café
are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic.
> Privacy Statement <

ROTFL Billions and billions served! ROTFL