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billfromoregon
Special user
537 Posts
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Posted: Oct 2, 2007 11:28am
Well, here is the reponse I just received from Magicbox, which confirms what many of us have suspected:
Hi
Thanks for your mail.
Unfortunatly and very angrily, we are still waiting for linked gimmicks from
the manufacturer.
He has promised to post on all magic forums that HE HAS NOT YET, SENT THEM
TO US as previously stated.
He has told us (again) they will be sent out this week.
We have set a deadline, and if we do not recieve them they will be removed
from our site.
Thanks Graeme
MAGIC BOX
11 Percy St
Newcastle Upon Tyne
NE1 4PW
England
0191 2325335
Fax 0191 2601920
Visit our web site www.magicbox.uk.com
I do not know why Richard has LIED to everyone, but this is absolutely reprehensible behavior! If he didn't have the product, he could have simply said so, and we would have understood - some would have been disappointed, but his reputation would have remained intact. There really is no way that he can redeem himself now - the best way to start would be a full apology and a TRUTHFUL explanation of why he felt it necessary to deceive evryone here on the Café and other forums, as well as the folks at Magicbox. I appreciate the honesty shown by Magicbox, and must say that they are more forgiving than I would be, as I would immediately sever all ties with Richard and refuse to have any further dealings with him. If you want an absolutely killer effect, buy Masuda's WOW (this has been hard to obtain, due to demand, but was handled prefessionally). Maybe all Richard's products should be marked with an asterisk, ala Barry Bonds's record setting home-run ball...
Bill
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flekka
Regular user
wirral, england,
166 Posts
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Posted: Oct 2, 2007 12:00pm
The Merchant of Venice (magicbox)
"If you prick us, do we not bleed? if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison us, do we not die? and if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?". - (Act III, Scene I).
(dont take this to serious)
what you achieve in life echo's for eternety
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Mehtas
Inner circle
England
1490 Posts
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Posted: Oct 2, 2007 4:58pm
I don't think magicbox will get it this week becouse there is two day strike by RM.
Those two days will delay lot of packages, even the following days.
I think three months are enough to fulfill a promise and should not be given more chances.
After spending £20 , one could end up with a single card and a cut on its side.
mehtas[at]btinternet"dot"(0m
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magicman1
Special user
986 Posts
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Posted: Oct 2, 2007 10:14pm
NOTHING from Richard..
But why expect anything more??
Don
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Alan Rorrison
Special user
977 Posts
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Posted: Oct 2, 2007 10:43pm
Still nothing?
Some times you need to pull our head out of some where to see whats actually going on... try it!
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Ustaad
Inner circle
INDIA
2811 Posts
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Posted: Oct 3, 2007 7:45am
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On 2007-10-02 09:12, thehawk wrote:
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On 2007-10-02 08:59, DougNicols wrote:
He claimed to have sent it via Fedex. If he had any brains, he'd post the tracking number so his side of the story would be backed up, and MagicBox would now be on the hook.
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Wouldn't you have to send it before you could get a tracking number.
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INDIA - THE LAND OF MAGIC - WHERE REAL MAGIC HAPPENS.
MAGIC is a SECRET, without the SECRET, there is no MAGIC.
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke.
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magicman1
Special user
986 Posts
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Posted: Oct 3, 2007 8:02am
I think at this point in time Richard should disappear from the magic community AFTER refunding everyones money.
At this time I believe there should be some kind of charges brought against him.
A disgrace to the magic community
Don
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stevenamills
Veteran user
352 Posts
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Posted: Oct 3, 2007 10:23am
I'm betting on some sort of heart-tugging excuse in the near future.
These kind of things frequently fall back on some sort of PC reason for the "unforeseen and unfortunate" delay.
There are no happy endings. There are only happy journeys.
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billfromoregon
Special user
537 Posts
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Posted: Oct 3, 2007 10:28am
Did Richard actually receive money, or did all the pre-orders go though Magicbox? Reading the posts from Richard, he states that he never received any money, but now I know that we cannot trust his word. If he has taken money from people without delivering the product, perhaps something should be done. Especially in light of the fact that he promised Magicbox to make a confession of sorts on the forums., and he is, as yet, silent.
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thehawk
Inner circle
2127 Posts
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Posted: Oct 3, 2007 10:53am
He said in a September 16 post that he received no money and it is in the hands of the store. He lost money on what it cost him to produce link so he says.
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alannasser
Regular user
196 Posts
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Posted: Oct 3, 2007 5:32pm
Hi folks,
I got this from Richard a couple of days ago in response to my post a few pages back, in which I suggested a boycott of all of Richard's products. What does anyone think about Richard's post below. I think I stand by my original post. Am I too harsh?
Hi,
Just so you know, every other effect which I have invented and released was released and suppied, in store on time. I had a problem with Linked, when a large amount that I sent out did not arrive and I had to completely manufacture the order by hand. Linked has been resent in two different packages to ensure that it is available. I have kept people up to date, replied to PM´S and emails.
I am simply trying to design new visual magic. Beleive me I do not want negative comments about any of the effects or me personaly.
Best,
Richard
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bmagic121
New user
30 Posts
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Posted: Oct 3, 2007 7:20pm
So Richard, whats it going to be this time ?
Atom bomb fell on your house, earthquakes, floods..... aliens stole your package of links.
Must be something.
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Marc Frese
Veteran user
381 Posts
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Posted: Oct 4, 2007 2:11pm
I mean: Richard has thrown himself from the business!!!
He has here (in this wonderful forum) the possibility, to accept what is wrong.
However, nothing happens.
I am not annoyed. He will have his reasons. We learn out of that and let it rest.
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shawn99
Regular user
115 Posts
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Posted: Oct 4, 2007 2:24pm
Why don't magicbox remove it until they get it in stock ?
They don't know WHEN it'll be in stock, they don't know IF it'll be in stock, the creator keeps LYING all the time, and they still keep up on their site and keep taking the payments.
HORRIBLE.
Bring me the non pre-order stuff any time.
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flekka
Regular user
wirral, england,
166 Posts
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Posted: Oct 5, 2007 11:03pm
Just hate to see this drop off the bottom of the page. (BUMP)
By the way richard did say he would pop about the forums every-day
he never did said on this one though to be fair...
if you do read this richard the wedding on the 8th sept went o.k,
john,
what you achieve in life echo's for eternety
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Mehtas
Inner circle
England
1490 Posts
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Posted: Oct 6, 2007 6:02pm
It seems Mr James has gone to slumberland.
mehtas[at]btinternet"dot"(0m
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flekka
Regular user
wirral, england,
166 Posts
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Posted: Oct 6, 2007 7:15pm
O.K.
I never got in time to do at the wedding ......
you think I might get it for the kids christening......
what you achieve in life echo's for eternety
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Mehtas
Inner circle
England
1490 Posts
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Posted: Oct 6, 2007 7:28pm
I doubt it flekka.
You might be able to do it at your grandsons birthday.
mehtas[at]btinternet"dot"(0m
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thehawk
Inner circle
2127 Posts
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Posted: Oct 6, 2007 7:36pm
Maybe his great grandson's birthday.
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tuffnavyrn
Inner circle
San Diego, CA
1239 Posts
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Posted: Oct 6, 2007 7:48pm
LMAO! These posts are funny.....and sad at the same time.
Brian-
"That smart thing that somebody else said".
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flekka
Regular user
wirral, england,
166 Posts
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Posted: Oct 6, 2007 7:48pm
Im begining to feel old.... LOL..Christ I remember ordering this when I was a teenager
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thehawk
Inner circle
2127 Posts
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Posted: Oct 6, 2007 7:58pm
Maybe this was not supposed to be here till Christmas.
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flekka
Regular user
wirral, england,
166 Posts
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Posted: Oct 6, 2007 7:58pm
P.S.
Nearly on page 11 about a trick that has yet to be seen....
ooppss just realised this might be on page 11...
you think it might get to the 20's .. well I will keep bumping it to the top
until we get a proper reply at least,
coin toss, richard vs magicbox.. who do you trust
what you achieve in life echo's for eternety
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Mehtas
Inner circle
England
1490 Posts
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Posted: Oct 6, 2007 8:04pm
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On 2007-10-06 19:58, flekka wrote:
coin toss, richard vs magicbox.. who do you trust
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Just did that and the coin landed on its edge.
So we're still not sure about that.
mehtas[at]btinternet"dot"(0m
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thehawk
Inner circle
2127 Posts
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Posted: Oct 6, 2007 8:04pm
Magic box recieved the money so they should be the one going after Richard to post everywhere so everybody knows what's up.
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oombob
Special user
Canada
572 Posts
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Posted: Oct 7, 2007 1:51am
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On 2007-06-26 22:52, oombob wrote:
I beg of you... on bended knee with hands folded and lots of strenuous facial gesticulations... please....
please... oh please... let this be as good as it looks.
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*sigh*
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alannasser
Regular user
196 Posts
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Posted: Oct 7, 2007 2:04am
Sorry, but this point deserves repetition: Richard's work should be unconditionally boycotted. Café members should send messages to dealers informing them of Richard's history. It's a no-brainer at this point: the guy is a criminal. Either *Magic* or *Genii* might consider a story on this episode as a paradigm case of large-scale thievery in our community. - I've witnessed scams in this profession, but nothing as bold as this. Richard is the Enron of the magic world. He should have a reserved room in the Gray Bar Hotel. Utterly disgraceful.
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Davro
Veteran user
UK
307 Posts
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Posted: Oct 7, 2007 5:16am
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flekka wrote
"P.S.
Nearly on page 11 about a trick that has yet to be seen....
ooppss just realised this might be on page 11...
you think it might get to the 20's .. well I will keep bumping it to the top
until we get a proper reply at least,
coin toss, richard vs magicbox.. who do you trust"
I've dealt with Magicbox on lots of occasions, I would trust them totally.
Best Wishes, David
Best Wishes, David
Mid way this way of life we're bound upon, I woke to find myself in a dark wood, where the right road was wholly lost and gone.
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Marc Frese
Veteran user
381 Posts
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Posted: Oct 7, 2007 5:22am
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On 2007-10-07 02:04, alannasser wrote:
Sorry, but this point deserves repetition: Richard's work should be unconditionally boycotted. Café members should send messages to dealers informing them of Richard's history. It's a no-brainer at this point: the guy is a criminal. Either *Magic* or *Genii* might consider a story on this episode as a paradigm case of large-scale thievery in our community. - I've witnessed scams in this profession, but nothing as bold as this. Richard is the Enron of the magic world. He should have a reserved room in the Gray Bar Hotel. Utterly disgraceful.
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We should go forward roofed!!! And remain fair!!!
We do not know, why richard does this so!!!
I think he has learnt his lesson!!!
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paisa23
Inner circle
3 years no smoking. And counting
5226 Posts
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Posted: Oct 7, 2007 5:30am
Wait huh? What happened? Last I heard this was the DVD to get. I waited to see what else would have been said about this. Now we're off with Pitchet Forks and Torches off to Dr. Frankenstiens Castle? What page did this begin or can someone give me a give why we hate Rich answer?
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