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whiteoakcanyon Special user 899 Posts |
I would second J-Macs comment about Bob Swadling's Double Deception, it is a great coin gaff. It will leave them speechless.
As far as gravity flippers, I love my Schoolcraft but it is expensive. |
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Xcath1 Inner circle 3052 Posts |
Joe Mogar has a sick looking Morgan flipper, don't know who makes it but never saw anything else like it
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Richard Shawn Regular user 181 Posts |
I have all Schoolcraft products. I have a Dean's set with a matching gravity flipper in morgans, a regular morgan expanded set, a walking liberty expanded set, a walking liberty gravity flipper, and a barber OxF which I just got.
It is always a pleasure dealing with Jamie. We always have great phone calls whether I order or not. His customer service is outstanding. I will be dealing with Jamie for a long time. I can't wait for him to come to NY. He should be here Saturday at the Fantasma Magic Con. As for Lassen, before I went to Schoolcraft I tried contacting Lassen several times by email and phone. The guy never returned any. I don't care how good his product is if he can't return a call or email. Most of the top pro's are using Schoolcraft products like Homer Liwag, Eric Jones, Dean Dill, ect... 10/10 for Jamie. |
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Xcath1 Inner circle 3052 Posts |
No question Jamie makes beautiful stuff and is a pleasure to deal with. I have a similar selection and am quite happy with them. I saw and handled this Mogar offering at a convention recently. It really is something different. It works with a special elastic thread rather then a rubber band which rarely has to be replaced. Also, the small piece of the flipper never has to be pried out. There is a round needle that threads the replacement elastic through the grove. I don't have one, and am not in the market for another expensive gaff (although that has not always stopped me) but it was very interesting in construction and looked perfect as well. If you see Joe at a convention ask to see it.
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BanzaiMagic Inner circle 1339 Posts |
I had a chance to handle the new Triception coin set from Bob Swadling and Mark Mason at Magic Fest in Tampa and it also does not use a rubber band. It is great work, as usual, from Bob Swadling.
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Chessmann Inner circle 4242 Posts |
I have a Joe Mogar morgan dollar flipper, and a Lassen morgan dollar flipper. Same quality.
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
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On 2011-06-22 21:36, Chessmann wrote: Wow - that's saying something, Chess! Thank you. Jim |
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Bendy Special user Columbus, Ohio 518 Posts |
I had Bob Swadling make one of his new "Next Generation Flipper" coins for me, using my own dollar coins so that it matches the other coins I use. It doesn't use a rubber band and it works like a dream!
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Daniel Clemente Special user Mount Joy, PA 790 Posts |
I have a Tango regular flipper...not bad but I dropped it last week which ruined it...I'd love a schoolcraft but they are so $$! The tango quality wasn't bad at all for the money...
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MikeTheKid Veteran user vancouver 329 Posts |
I am considering to get a set of OxF in dollar size , any one has any experience with this set?
is it better to get half dollar size? I majorly want to use it for 3 fly effect and some coin cross.
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billappleton Inner circle Los Gatos, California 1154 Posts |
Hi mike,
I have been pondering that as well, what size coins to get for oxyclean, 3 fly, etc there is no dollar size coin still in circulation, so the Kennedy half dollars have a familiar edge, although they are not really in circulation either! but when I look at most of the 3 flys and oxyclean for example, the gaffs replace some of the sleights, so going bigger is possible, even if you have more trouble palming that size I decided to get a set of peace dollars for this purpose. they can look fairly modern, prettier than the Eisenhower, but not as antique as the Morgans. Hope that helps... |
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J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
Mike,
It really depends purely on which size coin you are most comfortable handling. Some like dollar coins for easier viewing with a larger crowd though I don’t think it matters much; dollar coins are just over 1/4" larger in diameter and since you are usually covering part of the coins you're talking ~1/8" on one side larger - not many folks will notice IMO! I'd go with whichever size you find easier to handle. Jim |
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MikeTheKid Veteran user vancouver 329 Posts |
Hello guys
My only concern is that if I want to do penetration effect ( lets say coin throught table or glasses ), would it be obvious ? Since its big .. I can hand dollar size no problem, with dollar size coin, it is easier for people to see clearly when do 3 fly or is it just me ? .. I think with half dollar size OxF, I might be able to do more effects ? due to the size ... Because schoolcraft is not cheap , so I don't want to end up get one each lol ~ Mike
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J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
3-Fly performed close-up is excellent with dollar coins because it looks more impossible when the coins are larger - even a little bit larger IMO. Though when handling a flipper along with another coin or two I personally find dollars more difficult to handle; but that's me.
If you have a dollar and a half $ flipper and shell try working through the motions of Oxy Clean with those, just to see which feels better. If you don’t have these then get to a magic shop and try some out. Without actually handling them no one here can advise you and be certain of being correct because it is mostly subjective. Jim |
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MikeTheKid Veteran user vancouver 329 Posts |
Thx for your advice Jim, it does help.
If I am making enough, I would get both for sure haha .. Mike
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billappleton Inner circle Los Gatos, California 1154 Posts |
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On 2011-08-20 22:27, J-Mac wrote: Hi Jim -- running the numbers, the dollar coins are 44% bigger than the halfs. so that seems like a lot... depends on how you look at it, I guess. I have the same issues with sponge balls, back and forth between 2 and 2.5 inches. |
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terrillific Loyal user San Antonio, TX 292 Posts |
I just bought Double Deception after seeing it performed by Mark Mason at the TAOM. I was floored after he did the coin through a silk.
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whiteoakcanyon Special user 899 Posts |
The Next Generation Gravity Flippers by Bob Swadling & Mark Mason are great.
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Daniel Clemente Special user Mount Joy, PA 790 Posts |
Sad I emIled Lassen...never any response...not good business practice at all..I'll be buying a schoolcraft instead...
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Flyswatter Veteran user 370 Posts |
Can the Next Generation Gravity Flipper perform the routines from Eric Jone's An Extension of Me?
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