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Jerome Finley V.I.P. SLC 3419 Posts |
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On 2007-08-14 05:23, lawrens wrote: Lawrens, Very good! I'm really into this sympathetic type of magic. Using the above proverb, one might have a person (or group) channel their emotions into a stone, one by one, and then cast it into a pond. The ripple effects of such a ceremony may cause clouds to vanish, ala the Gypsy Swindle, etc. Casting charged stones and items into a body of water to facilitate magic(K) is an ancient practice. You may even include a lesson in Karma; i.e. the stone represents our INTENTIONS, the water, our ENVIRONMENT (and the Universe). As our intentions (stone) go out into the world (water), it affects everything around it. The ripple effect occurs and becomes visible Karma (cause and effect). Our Karma (the ripples) moves out to the edges of the pond (Universe), and double back; redirecting themselves towards the Source (you and the cast stone). This is a visual lesson in the Karmic process. It's nothing personal, the environment is merely responding to our intent and actions in this place. It shows us very clearly, that what we put out there comes back to us. This is the type of esoteric magic+metaphor=sacred deception that I really prefer. This is the perfect magic of the shaman and the mystic. For me, it begins to transcend illusion and trickery. It can become real magic! This is the type of ritual and magical theatre that invites and encourages REAL MAGIC to happen all around us. Thokoza! -Jerome.
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Lawrens Godon Inner circle France 1108 Posts |
Jerome,
Thank you very much for this deep analysis! In fact I believe that each day could be the subject of a different performance... I took the chinese calendar example simply because I'm very fond of ancient China philosophy, which I found very rich regarding natural analogies/metaphores: The "I ching" ancient book shows how elements such water(lake, pond), wind, wood, sky(clouds!) are there all around us, talking to each of us. This opened a whole new way of embrassing life and ripples. With such a magical natural theater, one can really do natural magic. I'm a firm believer of this statement and the book you released with Devin bring to me a whole analogy to my previous thinking! How could I thank you enough? Now I understand that it's probably a long way before being able to totally incarnate this knowledge but hey, haven't we all the time we need? ^^ Tchen, l'éveilleur... __ __ __ __ ____ Lawrens |
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Doug Higley 1942 - 2022 7152 Posts |
Jerome...what if the clouds are viewed and 'changed' in a reflecting pool or a black 'Charger' of water. As the cloud disapates, the slightest touch of the finger tip to the water will disturb it just enough so that when it resettles to still, the affected cloud will be gone.
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Jerome Finley V.I.P. SLC 3419 Posts |
Doug,
Great idea! I really like that . . . it also reminded me of the old pepper stunt, but much more effective Lawrens, I appreciate that you are getting so much from the book! Again, it is quite the honor. Thank you. -J.
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Vinnie Laraway Inner circle 1272 Posts |
Doug! I love that idea! That should definitely be put in Volume 2 if it comes out!
And guys, I meant to tell you guys this yesterday, but it slipped my mind... Monday (the 13th) I was driving to work with my brother, and noticed the clouds were perfect! As I was driving, I sculpted an actual star in the sky using the clouds as an outline! Basically, the white clouds were around it, and it was the blue sky that was what formed the star shape. It was amazing! Imagine a hole being in the center of the clouds, showing only a blue hole - it was the same thing, but a big star! Once I was done, and it was clearly visible it was a star, I turned to my brother and told him to look in the sky. I pointed to it and said "look what I just made". He was a bit skeptical and said 'do it again'. Instead, I said "I made it appear, so I'll make it vanish". Within a minute or so, the star was GONE! No sign of it at all! My brother didn't know what to think. He didn't show any emotion (mainly because I bother him so much to practice new material on him), but I saw in his face that he was trying to figure it out! I just wanted to share that little story with you guys! =] Thanks Jerome and Devin! This stuff is POWERFUL! -Vinnie |
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Jerome Finley V.I.P. SLC 3419 Posts |
Vinnie,
Thanks for sharing, and you're welcome! Cheers, J.
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Alexander Marsh Inner circle England 1191 Posts |
If you have ever wanted to create a truly memorable and magical experience for someone, this book will tell you how.
I remember excitedly reading the ad copy of Kenton's Wonder Words in which it claimed to teach you cloud busting. Although after hearing the short section on the discs, it sparked some interest, I felt Kenton didn't explain enough. (I feel should point out that the wealth of other information in the WW series more than made up for the sting of disappointment.) When Jerome told me he and Devin where writing this book about Cloud Busting (or 'melting' as Jerome prefers) I was immediately interested. Although I don not perform my mentalism with a 'psychic' or supernatural twist, the idea of creating a strange and magical experience in someones mind is what I strive to create, and that is literally what you can create with the techniques in this book. The book is very well written and the time spent on it really shows. It is split in to sections to help digestion. First of all, Devin explains the basic secret and dispels any myths or misconceptions you may have about busting clouds. After reading this first section you straight away begin to see the potential and how you can put your own spin on things. Jerome then takes you deeper in to the art, explaining his personal touches and how suggestive language and gestures can really make the difference to what your audience perceives has/is happening. Which is the real key to a performance piece of this kind. To close the book, Devin details methods for appearing to control the weather and potential presentational hooks. All in all a brilliant book. I highly recommend it, even to 'psychological mentalists' such as myself. Using a subliminal presentation or even private/mass hypnotic experience, in the right hands can make you a legend.
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Lawrens Godon Inner circle France 1108 Posts |
Hello all!
As you may know I'm also a Cristal Ball manipulator (you may check here if you don't know what it consists of ^^)... I came across the idea of displaying a clear 100 mm acrylic ball and showing to the people the reflection in the sphere: they see the sky, blue sky and clouds... Then I would ask to choose a cloud in the reflection, and from here I would go in some magical contact manipulations with the sphere, aiming to the sky... Eventually the real cloud would melt under effect of the ball behavior, and for a finale I would show that there's now a cloudy part inside the sphere, as if the real cloud has been caught into it... Can't wait to test this!! What do you fellow cloudbusters think? ^^ |
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Jerome Finley V.I.P. SLC 3419 Posts |
Lawrens,
That was a beautiful performance my friend!!! I'm giving you a STRICT CHARGE to combine the two . . . sphere manipulation/contact juggling with cloud melting. I've always loved contact juggling, it is so magical! It seems to me like manipulating liquid light. This is a perfect thing to do while busting/melting clouds!!! Again, this is powerful shamanic theatre. I probably would not have the cloud end up in the ball, but you could do it that way. In my eyes, the best performance would be to acknowledge the sky and clouds, and go into your routine with the sphere(s). How magical an experience that the sky changes during your performance with the crystal! It would definitely feel as if the clouds vanished as a result of your working with the ball. It doesn't get much better than that! Best, J.
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Lawrens Godon Inner circle France 1108 Posts |
Jerome,
Glad you like the script!! Imagine: while all attention is directed to the sky, it's a manageable thing to do a change of some sort: not only the sky changed during cristal ball healing/contact manipulations, but also now there's a cloud stucked inside the previously shown empty and clear sphere!!! (Well I'll probably need a new pouch...) It will be my pleasure to challenge this script in a live performance just because I'm going better and better at cloud melting...thanks to you and Devin!! :O) Also I must say I love Mr Higley's suggestion! What a powerful script using water and stripples! As for me I certainly would produce a cristal ball out of the water... ...And then go to the above idea... ^^ |
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paisa23 Inner circle 7293 Posts |
I didn't read the above, I just wanted to post my first try of this effect. Im in Montana and I have a magician Friend in Jersey. Anyway I'm talking to him Via Text message and he is at his sons football game. I say to him "Im trying something new, you might like this. Look up at the sky, you see those clouds?"
He says Yeah. I tell him to pick one and focus on it, a nice small fluffy one. He says OK I got one. I tell him that I'm going to try to break it down an make it disappear. Not only that but it will appear here in Montana. He yelled B.S. I say do it, come trust me pick one and focus really hard on it. In about a minute or two he text me with this "WHAT THE F#$^! ITS GONE!" I didn't even skip a beat and I text him back with "I Know I can see it here." He forgets the texts and calls me and only says, how did you do that? I told him "Its magic" which made him mad, being that he is a magician and all. Point of this story is that the Tex ting actually worked as a misdirection and time consumer. It made it seem like the cloud vanished a lot quicker, because he was busy Looking at the cloud and texting me back. As far as describing the cloud, all I did was repeat what I told him when I told him to pick a nice fluffy cloud. I mean come on could he really remember what the cloud fully looked like? I loved it. Just wanted to involve you guys in my Moment of Astonishment.
June 22 2012 9:02 AM baby Usnavi was born!
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Devin Knight V.I.P. 2493 Posts |
Wonderful, I'm glad to see someone is actually trying my Cloud Busting via the Cell Phone. I love the idea of using a text message. That is a nice touch and would make it appear to go faster. Bravo.
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Jerome Finley V.I.P. SLC 3419 Posts |
Paisa,
NICE! Keep up the great work!!! I'm really pleased to see you guys carefully considering this work, and most important, USING IT! Cloud busting is one of those things that once learned, stays with you for a lifetime and is always ready to rumble Best, Jerome.
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Doug Higley 1942 - 2022 7152 Posts |
Kids show idea...relate it to the Winnie The Pooh stories...and Eyore who is always down in the dumps like he has a little cloud over his head. "Well we're going to do something about that. Anybody here that sometimes feels like Eyore?
Pull a volunteer (not a toddler) and charge him to pick a cloud out of the sky and together you will make it vanish. Have the kid stand there looking at the chosen cloud thinking 'happy' thoughts while you go on with another trick (maybe one where misdirection is needed)... "How you doing over there? Good...keep concentrating on that cloud!...Oh and shout out loud when it dissappears!" Just a thought.
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Jerome Finley V.I.P. SLC 3419 Posts |
Doug,
It's been a long time since I performed for children, but this presentation would be FANTASTIC for the wee ones. Kids typically respond really well to cloud busting and sculpting. Beware though, you do something like you have written above, and they aren't going to leave you alone! A bit of cheer for everyone involved! -J.
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Blindside785 Inner circle Olympia, WA 4541 Posts |
Get a whinnie that says "think think think think think"
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Blindside785 Inner circle Olympia, WA 4541 Posts |
I'm going to put months of studying into the sky and the clouds before I go out and perform again, thank you guys.
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Jerome Finley V.I.P. SLC 3419 Posts |
Blindside,
You will definitely do GREAT work with that type of research and dedication. If you think about it, a few months is not a lot of time to invest in something you will use forever. I worked on my first cloud busting presentation for nearly two years before I showed anybody. 10 years later, it is a staple in my working repetoire and one of my favorite things to do. Devin and I did all we could with the knowledge we have gained, and put it all together in one place for your benefit. We have taken away the learning curve necessary to do this effect WELL. Give it some time, and you will all be brilliant! Cloud busting is one of those things you can learn in a month (or a day!) and then spend the next 5 years truly understanding it. I wish you all the very best, and much continued success! -Jerome.
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T.G Kenny Loyal user Malaysia 243 Posts |
I can't thank Devin and Jerome enough for the book !
Greatest book on something which has been ignored for such a long long time GET IT TODAY GUYS Regards, Kenny |
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Y2John Inner circle 1498 Posts |
Just recieved this this morning, read up to page 30 or so and will be settling down early to have a read through.
So far it's great, looking forward to delving deeper into the knowledge this book holds. |
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